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"Yeah men can get on well with other men but women with other women bitch between each other most girls say they rather hang out with lads as girls bitch " I've heard that said but in my experience it isn't so. | |||
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"Yeah men can get on well with other men but women with other women bitch between each other most girls say they rather hang out with lads as girls bitch I've heard that said but in my experience it isn't so." iv seen it first hand or girls put each other down behind there backs where as most men square up lol | |||
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"Yes. I think we are but I'm not brave enough or stupid enough to put my thoughts on paper! " You're probably safe to put them on paper, maybe not on t'internet though | |||
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"Yeah men can get on well with other men but women with other women bitch between each other most girls say they rather hang out with lads as girls bitch I've heard that said but in my experience it isn't so. iv seen it first hand or girls put each other down behind there backs where as most men square up lol" Clearly we have had different experiences | |||
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"Yes. I think we are but I'm not brave enough or stupid enough to put my thoughts on paper! " Oh go on | |||
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"Yeah men can get on well with other men but women with other women bitch between each other most girls say they rather hang out with lads as girls bitch " that's because they are choosing the wrong friends nothing to do with gender | |||
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"Best put my thoughts in to make it fair. Yes, I do think we are quite different. But, I don't see it as a bad thing. I think in general women are much more emotionally complicated than men. Runs and hides. Mrs x" This with the amendment. *hides with you* | |||
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"Apparently, men are from Mars and women are from Venus. What do you consider to be the main differences between men and women ? Do you think men or women have it harder, or are things more equal and why ? I'm genuinely interested in peoples perceptions here and don't want to cause friction so pretty please can we keep it civilised and respectful. Are we really that different ? Mrs x " I don't think it matters, we're all mad in our own way | |||
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"I feel that men have less sensitivity than women. " Would you say this is due to the traditional hunter gatherer/home maker roles ? | |||
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"Best put my thoughts in to make it fair. Yes, I do think we are quite different. But, I don't see it as a bad thing. I think in general women are much more emotionally complicated than men. Runs and hides. Mrs x This with the amendment. *hides with you*" I don't agree. I think some women are emotionally complicated and so are some men. I think we're conditioned to believe that women are more emotionally complicated. | |||
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"The differences can be a little confusing when you transcend both genders. " I was hoping for input from someone with your experience. | |||
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"The differences can be a little confusing when you transcend both genders. " Interesting, can you elaborate a little ? X | |||
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"Yeah men can get on well with other men but women with other women bitch between each other most girls say they rather hang out with lads as girls bitch I've heard that said but in my experience it isn't so." Its not my experience either | |||
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"Apparently, men are from Mars and women are from Venus. What do you consider to be the main differences between men and women ? Do you think men or women have it harder, or are things more equal and why ? I'm genuinely interested in peoples perceptions here and don't want to cause friction so pretty please can we keep it civilised and respectful. Are we really that different ? Mrs x I don't think it matters, we're all mad in our own way" I can't argue with that. | |||
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"The differences can be a little confusing when you transcend both genders. Interesting, can you elaborate a little ? X" Tbh I'm still figuring this out myself. I know I never fitted any male framework. I started dressing only a couple of years ago and femality, if that's a word, just becomes me. When I told a friend what I am/do he laughed initially, saying id make a crap girl as I'm the most masculine man he knows. Bearing in mind he's ex Royal Marines. As Rachael I've had a rather vocal post op TS girl tell me she's never met a tgirl who behaves/moves so much like a genetic girl. | |||
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"Best put my thoughts in to make it fair. Yes, I do think we are quite different. But, I don't see it as a bad thing. I think in general women are much more emotionally complicated than men. Runs and hides. Mrs x This with the amendment. *hides with you* I don't agree. I think some women are emotionally complicated and so are some men. I think we're conditioned to believe that women are more emotionally complicated." Yeah I think it's hard to generalise with such a topic... I was being a bit tongue in cheek. Based on my circle of friends I'm probably quite lucky in that we're all pretty drama free but as personalities go, I think as humans we're all complicated at times. When I have discussions about things, I often find that women thing about things in a lot more depth than men. However, it may well be that women are just more vocal than men rather than men not thinking as deeply about it if that makes sense? | |||
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"When my son was little he had mostly non gender specific toys or what he wanted, so if he wanted one year he had a kitchen and doll for Christmas, was allowed swords or guns or anything to do with violence, he watched very very limited television. First day at nursery school first thing he did was make a gun out of Lego and went round shooting everyone, so it must be in boys to be more naturally rough and tumble" In my experience of growing up with three brothers I would say that's true. | |||
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"Best put my thoughts in to make it fair. Yes, I do think we are quite different. But, I don't see it as a bad thing. I think in general women are much more emotionally complicated than men. Runs and hides. Mrs x This with the amendment. *hides with you* I don't agree. I think some women are emotionally complicated and so are some men. I think we're conditioned to believe that women are more emotionally complicated. Yeah I think it's hard to generalise with such a topic... I was being a bit tongue in cheek. Based on my circle of friends I'm probably quite lucky in that we're all pretty drama free but as personalities go, I think as humans we're all complicated at times. When I have discussions about things, I often find that women thing about things in a lot more depth than men. However, it may well be that women are just more vocal than men rather than men not thinking as deeply about it if that makes sense? " Yes it does. Such phrases as "man up" "take it like a man" encourage men to keep quiet about emotional stuff. | |||
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"I've always been accused of being wired 'differently' " My kids and wife had always thought this about me. When I told my wife about the real me she simply said 'that explains a lot'. | |||
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"The differences can be a little confusing when you transcend both genders. Interesting, can you elaborate a little ? X Tbh I'm still figuring this out myself. I know I never fitted any male framework. I started dressing only a couple of years ago and femality, if that's a word, just becomes me. When I told a friend what I am/do he laughed initially, saying id make a crap girl as I'm the most masculine man he knows. Bearing in mind he's ex Royal Marines. As Rachael I've had a rather vocal post op TS girl tell me she's never met a tgirl who behaves/moves so much like a genetic girl." I think that we are entering a period where its easier to express our gender and find our place on the gender range. | |||
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"Best put my thoughts in to make it fair. Yes, I do think we are quite different. But, I don't see it as a bad thing. I think in general women are much more emotionally complicated than men. Runs and hides. Mrs x This with the amendment. *hides with you* I don't agree. I think some women are emotionally complicated and so are some men. I think we're conditioned to believe that women are more emotionally complicated." Interesting point re the conditioning. From personal experience to some extent I agree about some men being very emotionally complicated. However it has mainly been my female friends that have displayed their emotions more freely if that makes sense ? | |||
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"The differences can be a little confusing when you transcend both genders. Interesting, can you elaborate a little ? X Tbh I'm still figuring this out myself. I know I never fitted any male framework. I started dressing only a couple of years ago and femality, if that's a word, just becomes me. When I told a friend what I am/do he laughed initially, saying id make a crap girl as I'm the most masculine man he knows. Bearing in mind he's ex Royal Marines. As Rachael I've had a rather vocal post op TS girl tell me she's never met a tgirl who behaves/moves so much like a genetic girl. I think that we are entering a period where its easier to express our gender and find our place on the gender range." I hope my kids understand when I tell them | |||
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"You should have had this thread earlier when I had time for a proper answer If it's still running tomorrow, I'll give it a go. But generally speaking, yes I think men and women are different. It isn't bad, it just is. As for whose had it harder, I would say it depends on what the context is, but generally speaking I think women have had it harder socially. On fab, men definitely have it harder As for emotions, both sexes are emotional, but differently. Comparing the two emotionally is like comparing fruits and vegetables. And of course women are smarter than men, but that goes without saying -Courtney" I should have waited to post as I've just got in to bed. Thank you for answering. | |||
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"Best put my thoughts in to make it fair. Yes, I do think we are quite different. But, I don't see it as a bad thing. I think in general women are much more emotionally complicated than men. Runs and hides. Mrs x This with the amendment. *hides with you* I don't agree. I think some women are emotionally complicated and so are some men. I think we're conditioned to believe that women are more emotionally complicated. Interesting point re the conditioning. From personal experience to some extent I agree about some men being very emotionally complicated. However it has mainly been my female friends that have displayed their emotions more freely if that makes sense ?" Yes, I think that's because from childhood boys are encouraged to hide their emotions and girls to express them. | |||
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"The differences can be a little confusing when you transcend both genders. Interesting, can you elaborate a little ? X Tbh I'm still figuring this out myself. I know I never fitted any male framework. I started dressing only a couple of years ago and femality, if that's a word, just becomes me. When I told a friend what I am/do he laughed initially, saying id make a crap girl as I'm the most masculine man he knows. Bearing in mind he's ex Royal Marines. As Rachael I've had a rather vocal post op TS girl tell me she's never met a tgirl who behaves/moves so much like a genetic girl. I think that we are entering a period where its easier to express our gender and find our place on the gender range. I hope my kids understand when I tell them " I hope so too . | |||
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"Best put my thoughts in to make it fair. Yes, I do think we are quite different. But, I don't see it as a bad thing. I think in general women are much more emotionally complicated than men. Runs and hides. Mrs x This with the amendment. *hides with you* I don't agree. I think some women are emotionally complicated and so are some men. I think we're conditioned to believe that women are more emotionally complicated. Interesting point re the conditioning. From personal experience to some extent I agree about some men being very emotionally complicated. However it has mainly been my female friends that have displayed their emotions more freely if that makes sense ? Yes, I think that's because from childhood boys are encouraged to hide their emotions and girls to express them." "Big boys don't cry", "Don't be such a girl's blouse" (whatever that one means), "She's so pretty and caring" all as accepted background noise. | |||
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"I feel that men have less sensitivity than women. Would you say this is due to the traditional hunter gatherer/home maker roles ? " Possibly..or perhaps due to what's acceptable in society | |||
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"Best put my thoughts in to make it fair. Yes, I do think we are quite different. But, I don't see it as a bad thing. I think in general women are much more emotionally complicated than men. Runs and hides. Mrs x This with the amendment. *hides with you* I don't agree. I think some women are emotionally complicated and so are some men. I think we're conditioned to believe that women are more emotionally complicated. Interesting point re the conditioning. From personal experience to some extent I agree about some men being very emotionally complicated. However it has mainly been my female friends that have displayed their emotions more freely if that makes sense ? Yes, I think that's because from childhood boys are encouraged to hide their emotions and girls to express them." Perhaps this will change with evolution but I think we still have a long way to go before we even come close to neutrality between the sexes if it ever happens at all. | |||
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"Best put my thoughts in to make it fair. Yes, I do think we are quite different. But, I don't see it as a bad thing. I think in general women are much more emotionally complicated than men. Runs and hides. Mrs x This with the amendment. *hides with you* I don't agree. I think some women are emotionally complicated and so are some men. I think we're conditioned to believe that women are more emotionally complicated. Interesting point re the conditioning. From personal experience to some extent I agree about some men being very emotionally complicated. However it has mainly been my female friends that have displayed their emotions more freely if that makes sense ? Yes, I think that's because from childhood boys are encouraged to hide their emotions and girls to express them. "Big boys don't cry", "Don't be such a girl's blouse" (whatever that one means), "She's so pretty and caring" all as accepted background noise. " Yep. As I said higher up "man up" "take it like a man". | |||
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"When my son was little he had mostly non gender specific toys or what he wanted, so if he wanted one year he had a kitchen and doll for Christmas, was allowed swords or guns or anything to do with violence, he watched very very limited television. First day at nursery school first thing he did was make a gun out of Lego and went round shooting everyone, so it must be in boys to be more naturally rough and tumble In my experience of growing up with three brothers I would say that's true. " My sons are not like this at all. I don't think it is true of all boys, from what I see | |||
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"When my son was little he had mostly non gender specific toys or what he wanted, so if he wanted one year he had a kitchen and doll for Christmas, was allowed swords or guns or anything to do with violence, he watched very very limited television. First day at nursery school first thing he did was make a gun out of Lego and went round shooting everyone, so it must be in boys to be more naturally rough and tumble In my experience of growing up with three brothers I would say that's true. My sons are not like this at all. I don't think it is true of all boys, from what I see" Fair point. | |||
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"This is a bit from the Radio Times piece about Countdown to Life: Month 5 It may be the case that typically male behaviours, such as risk-taking, are programmed into your brain by the testosterone it receives during pregnancy. Have a look at the length of your ring finger, compared with your index finger. Your ring finger grew long if you received more testosterone in the womb. This marker has been linked to people displaying aggressive, risk-taking behaviour, the kind of thing that we expect from people such as City traders." I'm fascinated by this. | |||
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"This is a bit from the Radio Times piece about Countdown to Life: Month 5 It may be the case that typically male behaviours, such as risk-taking, are programmed into your brain by the testosterone it receives during pregnancy. Have a look at the length of your ring finger, compared with your index finger. Your ring finger grew long if you received more testosterone in the womb. This marker has been linked to people displaying aggressive, risk-taking behaviour, the kind of thing that we expect from people such as City traders. I'm fascinated by this. " My ring fingers are just a tad longer than my index fingers. Maybe that's why I've always wanted to be able to pee standing up. | |||
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"This is a bit from the Radio Times piece about Countdown to Life: Month 5 It may be the case that typically male behaviours, such as risk-taking, are programmed into your brain by the testosterone it receives during pregnancy. Have a look at the length of your ring finger, compared with your index finger. Your ring finger grew long if you received more testosterone in the womb. This marker has been linked to people displaying aggressive, risk-taking behaviour, the kind of thing that we expect from people such as City traders. I'm fascinated by this. My ring fingers are just a tad longer than my index fingers. Maybe that's why I've always wanted to be able to pee standing up. " Now that's a talent! | |||
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"This is a bit from the Radio Times piece about Countdown to Life: Month 5 It may be the case that typically male behaviours, such as risk-taking, are programmed into your brain by the testosterone it receives during pregnancy. Have a look at the length of your ring finger, compared with your index finger. Your ring finger grew long if you received more testosterone in the womb. This marker has been linked to people displaying aggressive, risk-taking behaviour, the kind of thing that we expect from people such as City traders. I'm fascinated by this. My ring fingers are just a tad longer than my index fingers. Maybe that's why I've always wanted to be able to pee standing up. Now that's a talent! " First time my daughter peed she did it standing up as she had seen her brothers do. How long are these fingers supposed to be in comparison to each other? | |||
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"This is a bit from the Radio Times piece about Countdown to Life: Month 5 It may be the case that typically male behaviours, such as risk-taking, are programmed into your brain by the testosterone it receives during pregnancy. Have a look at the length of your ring finger, compared with your index finger. Your ring finger grew long if you received more testosterone in the womb. This marker has been linked to people displaying aggressive, risk-taking behaviour, the kind of thing that we expect from people such as City traders. I'm fascinated by this. My ring fingers are just a tad longer than my index fingers. Maybe that's why I've always wanted to be able to pee standing up. Now that's a talent! First time my daughter peed she did it standing up as she had seen her brothers do. How long are these fingers supposed to be in comparison to each other?" I don't know, but the fact that they report it as being down to testosterone suggests some people have ring fingers shorter than their index fingers. The programme had a family where a lot of them have six fingers on each hand. There is also a town in the Dominican Republic where a significant minority are born with indeterminate gender: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34290981 | |||
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"I get on better with females than males as I find most men in my circle of friends and colleagues are a trifle dull insofar as I don't like football, for example, and the women can keep a conversation going and I can flirt with them and make them laugh. If I flirt with a man (not that I ever have or would) I's expect a smack in the mouth. " Flirting with men is easy but I agree, there's only so long I can talk about cars or sport | |||
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"Yeah men can get on well with other men but women with other women bitch between each other most girls say they rather hang out with lads as girls bitch " This kind of thing makes me really sad. I have an amazing group of supportive female friends. I get on much better with women than men generally, with a few exceptions. No bitching, no shafting each other for a bloke. | |||
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"Yeah men can get on well with other men but women with other women bitch between each other most girls say they rather hang out with lads as girls bitch " No I'd rather hang out with the lads cos I love men! Yes, men and women are wired very differently, women view things far more relationally, men more topically. | |||
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"Apparently, men are from Mars and women are from Venus. What do you consider to be the main differences between men and women ? Do you think men or women have it harder, or are things more equal and why ? I'm genuinely interested in peoples perceptions here and don't want to cause friction so pretty please can we keep it civilised and respectful. Are we really that different ? Mrs x " There are different ratios of grey and white matter in the brains of men and women. Thoeritcaly this should lead to men being better at mathematical and spacial awareness problems but women should be better at languages | |||
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"This is a bit from the Radio Times piece about Countdown to Life: Month 5 It may be the case that typically male behaviours, such as risk-taking, are programmed into your brain by the testosterone it receives during pregnancy. Have a look at the length of your ring finger, compared with your index finger. Your ring finger grew long if you received more testosterone in the womb. This marker has been linked to people displaying aggressive, risk-taking behaviour, the kind of thing that we expect from people such as City traders." My ring finger seems to be slightly over half a cm longer. Is this why I like motorbikes and explosives? | |||
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"This is a bit from the Radio Times piece about Countdown to Life: Month 5 It may be the case that typically male behaviours, such as risk-taking, are programmed into your brain by the testosterone it receives during pregnancy. Have a look at the length of your ring finger, compared with your index finger. Your ring finger grew long if you received more testosterone in the womb. This marker has been linked to people displaying aggressive, risk-taking behaviour, the kind of thing that we expect from people such as City traders. My ring finger seems to be slightly over half a cm longer. Is this why I like motorbikes and explosives?" Me too, that's why I like motorbikes, bad men and wild, wild horses! lol! | |||
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"Apparently, men are from Mars and women are from Venus. What do you consider to be the main differences between men and women ? Do you think men or women have it harder, or are things more equal and why ? I'm genuinely interested in peoples perceptions here and don't want to cause friction so pretty please can we keep it civilised and respectful. Are we really that different ? Mrs x " yes you are guilty of over thinking of moving goalposts of over reacting and of being to choosy but what would we do without you | |||
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"At base level if you cut us we bleed, whatever our gender. However I believe that nature and nurture make men and women different. " That and the genitals. | |||
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"The differences can be a little confusing when you transcend both genders. Interesting, can you elaborate a little ? X Tbh I'm still figuring this out myself. I know I never fitted any male framework. I started dressing only a couple of years ago and femality, if that's a word, just becomes me. When I told a friend what I am/do he laughed initially, saying id make a crap girl as I'm the most masculine man he knows. Bearing in mind he's ex Royal Marines. As Rachael I've had a rather vocal post op TS girl tell me she's never met a tgirl who behaves/moves so much like a genetic girl. I think that we are entering a period where its easier to express our gender and find our place on the gender range. I hope my kids understand when I tell them " I'm guessing you and your partner are raising your children with the same gift of intellect, compassion, openess, integrity, love and compassion that you both share, I'd suggest your children will be fine when you tell them. | |||
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"This is a bit from the Radio Times piece about Countdown to Life: Month 5 It may be the case that typically male behaviours, such as risk-taking, are programmed into your brain by the testosterone it receives during pregnancy. Have a look at the length of your ring finger, compared with your index finger. Your ring finger grew long if you received more testosterone in the womb. This marker has been linked to people displaying aggressive, risk-taking behaviour, the kind of thing that we expect from people such as City traders. My ring finger seems to be slightly over half a cm longer. Is this why I like motorbikes and explosives? Me too, that's why I like motorbikes, bad men and wild, wild horses! lol! " My ring fingers are considerably longer than my index finger, almost a cm. I'm possibly the most risk-averse person I know! I do have a temper though, if that counts as aggression. | |||
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