FabSwingers.com forum: falling out with a friend .

By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

OK this has been bugging me for a couple of days now .

On Friday I had a blazing row with a male friend who uses a site similar to this one.

He asked to use a flat I have use cf on Saturday night to entertain a lady friend.

That will be the forth time in the last six weeks I said getting on well with your new play mate then .he's said no its another new one then bragged it was the forth new fuck in the last 6 weeks .

So I said Jesus no names here how the hell are you being that successful .

He said I just removed the fact I'm married playing away from home from my profile.

Now this got my goat up I'm not perfect but this fucker was using a flat I have the use of to entertain woman who are meeting him thinking one thing when the opposite is true .

Now I _iew this as playing with fire the pulling the wool over some ones eyes

I'm on about here I can only see trouble coming down the line at some point from this sort of behavior .

Now as I don't want any trouble coming to the flats door I have use of because that would put a end to that .

I told him straight as he was lying to these women tricking them and in my opinion only trouble can come from such behavior the flat was now out of bounds for him .

This did go down well if it hadn't been for another friend stepping in blows would have been exchanged .

I feel I did the right thing to protect the use of the flat I couldn't careless if you chooses to lie to have his fun I just don't want the consequences of his action ruining a sweet deal I have on the go .

Any thoughts as I'm sure I haven't heard the end of this with him .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it's your flat, you can decide who uses it.

What's the issue?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Say no if he asks to borrow your car.

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"Say no if he asks to borrow your car. "

Its no if he's asks to borrow anything known him 20 years was at his wedding he was at mine .all that's over now even tag teamed with him a few years ago to see if it was my thing .

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

seems petty....... but hey

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

but if you thought he was getting deeper into a relationship with the first woman, you would be okay with that. He is still married

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is the issue that he's getting some and you aren't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hang on a minute....he's married, and you're ok with him fucking 1 regular playmate, but not 4 different ones?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't understand your Belated Moral stance?

You knew he was married 6 weeks ago but were happy for him to bring someone to this flat for a fuck?

But you are only miffed because it wasn't the same person?

Confused?

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"seems petty....... but hey"

He can fuck who he wants as long as they know the score experience has taut me when you pull the wool over someones eyes the minute they find out the truth trouble has a nasty habit of becoming the out come .

Trouble I don't want turning up at the flats door call me selfish but that's my stance on this I want the flat trouble free that way I can carry on using it for fun with people who know what there dealing with from the word go .

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Offers the OP an ironical round of applause on his morals and hopes his very public demonstration of his credentials regarding this issue goes as well as hoped.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Say no if he asks to borrow your car.

Its no if he's asks to borrow anything known him 20 years was at his wedding he was at mine .all that's over now even tag teamed with him a few years ago to see if it was my thing ."

You were okay with him using the flat when he was being honest about cheating... But you get annoyed with him for not being honest with these women but your okay with him cheating on his wife

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"Offers the OP an ironical round of applause on his morals and hopes his very public demonstration of his credentials regarding this issue goes as well as hoped. "

I haven't made a moral judgement I've make a judgement on will his actions of not being truthful about his married status bring trouble to the flats door .

This is about his action not the ethics of them and will they lead to possible trouble coming to the flats door .

In my opinion yes he thought the same as you he could not see it past me making a moral call when in a cold light of day all i was thinking was will the way he's choosing to play from now on have a higher chance of bring trouble to the flats door and the answer i came up wth was yes .

It was that simply no moral judgement I leave that sort of thing for the saints of this world not guys like me.

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"Say no if he asks to borrow your car.

Its no if he's asks to borrow anything known him 20 years was at his wedding he was at mine .all that's over now even tag teamed with him a few years ago to see if it was my thing .

You were okay with him using the flat when he was being honest about cheating... But you get annoyed with him for not being honest with these women but your okay with him cheating on his wife "

Yes that's correct I don't care if he chooses to cheat just as long as his actions in doing so don't bring trouble to the flats door .

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

so you are 2 married men playing away and sharing a flat for that purpose..... he plays by a different rule to you and you are pissed.

well, if it is your flat then clearly you have the right to dictate any ground rules.

honour amongst thieves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When you say flat you have use of that says to me you don't own it.

Does the owner know you're using it for sex and that your letting another man bring unknown people to it for sex too?

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By *rown_cock_edinMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

What trouble are you referring to.. 'bringing to the flats door'... that might not already happen in the previous circumstance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What trouble are you referring to.. 'bringing to the flats door'... that might not already happen in the previous circumstance?"

Angry woman/partner turning up screaming when real owner of flat is there dropping op in it?

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By *rown_cock_edinMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

I thought that might be it... just confirming... it was a bit vauge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think I get where you are coming from, it's not about your mates morals, or yours, but rather that a woman scorned is a dangerous creature and trouble could well arrive at your flat.

If he was honest with these women then there is far less likely hood of trouble coming to your door.

I would add though that even had he been honest and it was just the one woman as you initially believed there is still a huge potential for trouble to manifest at your door.....

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"When you say flat you have use of that says to me you don't own it.

Does the owner know you're using it for sex and that your letting another man bring unknown people to it for sex too?

Wrong I own it but have a arrangement with another guy who lives there rent free looking after it for me .

I say rent free that not true h works for me and the flat is just docked from his pay l

Again another friend I've known since my teenage years older than me semi rehired.

Like so much of life its a complicated web .

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"When you say flat you have use of that says to me you don't own it.

Does the owner know you're using it for sex and that your letting another man bring unknown people to it for sex too?

Wrong I own it but have a arrangement with another guy who lives there rent free looking after it for me .

I say rent free that not true h works for me and the flat is just docked from his pay l

Again another friend I've known since my teenage years older than me semi rehired.

Like so much of life its a complicated web ."

is it not the guy who lives there right to choose what happens in the house, he is working to pay the rent and you are the landlord

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I haven't made a moral judgement I've make a judgement on will his actions of not being truthful about his married status bring trouble to the flats door."

A man cheating on his wife choosing to judge another man cheating on his wife for a differing level of 'truthfulness'? It's a strange old world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You seem a little concerned that the lying to the new women may bring a problem to the flat. I would think that the lying to each of your wives will bring a whole lot more, and not just to the flat, when they find out

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"When you say flat you have use of that says to me you don't own it.

Does the owner know you're using it for sex and that your letting another man bring unknown people to it for sex too?

Wrong I own it but have a arrangement with another guy who lives there rent free looking after it for me .

I say rent free that not true h works for me and the flat is just docked from his pay l

Again another friend I've known since my teenage years older than me semi rehired.

Like so much of life its a complicated web .

is it not the guy who lives there right to choose what happens in the house, he is working to pay the rent and you are the landlord"

Correct he's OK with the arrangement even I don't use the flat free of charge for the evening he was the one who backed me up when the argument nearly came to blows he agreed with my stance on it all once he heard what was going on .

Again its a case of three good friends falling out over one person not seeing it from the other twos points of _iew .

If trouble come to the flats door my other friend who happens to work for me will bare the brunt of it any damage done to the flat if trouble does show up will cost me .

Like I said complicated ,

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

you are his boss and landlord, I can see why he backs you up

you are pulling the strings to your way of thinking and that is fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blimey I thought my life was like eastenders!!

This is the trouble with bringing people back to your home, always comes with a 'danger' to it I guess.

How do you know the women you take back there aren't going to come knocking on the door or banging on it? Yeah you might be truthful to them but you know what women can be like, bring a bunny boiler back to your place anything could happen!!

I can see where your coming from (I think) but really it was asking for trouble in the first place!! I can see you both thought 'yeah! Somewhere to shag without being found out' but in reality it's ruined your friendship all for a quick fuck and don't get me started on the whole lying to the quick fucks that come to your flat and the not being concerned about the wives being completely in the dark!

Question OP; does your wife know about the said flat? That you own it? Because if she does what is to stop her turning up!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When you say flat you have use of that says to me you don't own it.

Does the owner know you're using it for sex and that your letting another man bring unknown people to it for sex too?

Wrong I own it but have a arrangement with another guy who lives there rent free looking after it for me .

I say rent free that not true h works for me and the flat is just docked from his pay l

Again another friend I've known since my teenage years older than me semi rehired.

Like so much of life its a complicated web ."

So does he know you're letting strangers into his house?

Even people that you don't know into his house

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looking past the moral and ethical issues you're willing to throw away a 20 year friendship for theoretic 'trouble' which may or may not turn up at a flat which you use? Surely if this 'trouble' turns up at this flat and discover that your friends isn't there they'll just leave.

Sounds to me like you didn't value this friendship or you would have seen past these theoretic problems

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley

I feel for the poor soul who lives in the flat, who might just get a visit from an irate husband, and be taken as the one who is up to no good........wow what a nice situation to put him in!!!!!

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"I feel for the poor soul who lives in the flat, who might just get a visit from an irate husband, and be taken as the one who is up to no good........wow what a nice situation to put him in!!!!!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"I feel for the poor soul who lives in the flat, who might just get a visit from an irate husband, and be taken as the one who is up to no good........wow what a nice situation to put him in!!!!!

100%

poor fucker, working his cock off for the flat and 2 geezers working their cock off in the flat

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I think you did the right thing to stop him using the flat. Not for the moral reasons but cheating can lead to trouble and you are best to protect yourself from the possibility of it.

I also think this is more about him than you. If he cannot respect the fact that you had been doing him a favour, but do not want to risk problems, then he isn't really a friend.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Offers the OP an ironical round of applause on his morals and hopes his very public demonstration of his credentials regarding this issue goes as well as hoped. "

Though to be fair, I think there should be some sort of formal award!

OP: try spreading some 'wimmins things' round the bathroom (not quite sure what this constitutes, looking round ours it seems to be candles, 5 different sorts of hair products and strange 'decorative items' that seem to serve no purpose.

Don't forget to hide them while you're using the flat though, obvs

Mr ddc

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"you are his boss and landlord, I can see why he backs you up

you are pulling the strings to your way of thinking and that is fine"

Oh trust me mate its nothing like that he as as good as family to me I've known him since I was 16 he _iews me as a younger brother by over 20 years even possibly as a son he never had .

He lives in the flat because he's my friend he gets the flat well below the market rate because like I said he's as good as family to me in my eyes .

Jesus I owe him in my eyes not the other way round but hay its a cynical world so I understand why you may think otherwise .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

without anybody going on about morals etc i feel the op was doing a good mate an occasional favour and he was starting to take the piss and took it for granted - i might be wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow, so much drama

No disrespect OP but the anger in a couple of those posts makes you come across as a bit of a nutter

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"without anybody going on about morals etc i feel the op was doing a good mate an occasional favour and he was starting to take the piss and took it for granted - i might be wrong"

I think the guy who rents the flat was and the other guy may have been.

The OP uses the flat too for the same purposes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could allways join up as a tag team. Sounds like the green eyed monster because hes getting more then the op

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just don't get why him lying about being a cheat or not disclosing it to women that will pretty much know that from his availability and other things is seen as a worse sin than lying to his wife about fucking behind her back...

I'd think that the risk of bringing women back full stop is a worry... As who says they won't have jealous partners that will come cause bother.

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"You could allways join up as a tag team. Sounds like the green eyed monster because hes getting more then the op

Not in the slightest its purely about risk he is in my opinion taking a bigger risk of trouble coming about by the way he's going about getting meets .

It really is that simple in my eyes and trust me if it was all about pissing up the wall over number of meets I'd join his way if doing business but its not its about preserving the status quo taking no undue risks that might ruin the status quo and ruining the fun .

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"I just don't get why him lying about being a cheat or not disclosing it to women that will pretty much know that from his availability and other things is seen as a worse sin than lying to his wife about fucking behind her back...

I'd think that the risk of bringing women back full stop is a worry... As who says they won't have jealous partners that will come cause bother. "

I'm not saying its a worse sin I'm saying in opinion the way he's going about meets is more likely to lead to trouble so the flats out of bounds for his meets from now on as I want no trouble at the flat,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" as long as they know the score experience has taut me when you pull the wool over someones eyes the minute they find out the truth trouble has a nasty habit of becoming the out come .

Considering you are both cheating, presumably you are pretty selective about when and whom you apply this logic too?

And that;s what this boils down to, you have chosen where it is acceptable to draw the line at how and who you deceive. But I think most people commenting are slightly incredulous at the hypocrisy that involves

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

Right there has been occasions in the past where all three of us have fuck the same woman at the same time in the flat but on these occasions the woman in question new she was having fun with two married men and one single so she entered the arrangement with her eyes wide open.

Now in my experience when a adult enters into a arrangement with there eyes wide open very little trouble comes about from that arrangement.

But when someone is miss lead into a arrangement then trouble is a far more likely out come from said arrangement purely because people don't like being duped .

There is no ethics or moral at play here its purely about avoiding trouble when ever possible and doing all you can in that regard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with someone on here cant rember who said it but its petty 20 years of friendship over women and fucks pretty much my advice would be grow up and im only 27, theres alot more worse things in the world going on and people would kill for friendship that long....sorry to sound like a twat but too me its just plain stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It reads like Jeremy Kyle was guest writer on Dynasty

My shoulder pads are bigger than yours

No, mine are bigger than yours

Cue cat fight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no ethics or moral at play here its purely about avoiding trouble when ever possible and doing all you can in that regard."

Surely the easiest way to avoid trouble would be for neither of you to cheat?

Now in my experience when a adult enters into a arrangement with there eyes wide open very little trouble comes about from that arrangement.

But when someone is miss lead into a arrangement then trouble is a far more likely out come from said arrangement purely because people don't like being duped "

But perfectly Okay for you both to dupe your wives?

Does your hypocricy no no limits?

OP if your 'friend' was caught cheating, could the repercussions of that be that your wife finds out about what you get up to? Are you primarily interested in protecting yourself?

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

" as long as they know the score experience has taut me when you pull the wool over someones eyes the minute they find out the truth trouble has a nasty habit of becoming the out come .

Considering you are both cheating, presumably you are pretty selective about when and whom you apply this logic too?

Yes I'm very very selective who I'd bring back to the flat have been that way for a few years now only regular fuck buddies go back to the flat for reasons listed through out this post .

I thought my friend was using the flat in the same way a place to take his regular fuck buddy but sadly he has changed his habits of late decided to play in a different way from how he used to.

This is what lead to the falling out him changing how he goes about his business because he saw a opportunity to say he was single and could accommodate .

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

There is no ethics or moral at play here its purely about avoiding trouble when ever possible and doing all you can in that regard.

Surely the easiest way to avoid trouble would be for neither of you to cheat?

Now in my experience when a adult enters into a arrangement with there eyes wide open very little trouble comes about from that arrangement.

But when someone is miss lead into a arrangement then trouble is a far more likely out come from said arrangement purely because people don't like being duped

But perfectly Okay for you both to dupe your wives?

Does your hypocricy no no limits?

OP if your 'friend' was caught cheating, could the repercussions of that be that your wife finds out about what you get up to? Are you primarily interested in protecting yourself? "

Unlikely if he gets caught he will get caught it was have nothing to do with my home life .

As for the hypocrisy there is nun as I am passing no ethical or moral judgement on how he lives his life all I'm saying is I think the way you are now playing has I higher chance of bring trouble back to the flat and for that reason alone the flat us no longer available for you to use .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think your being highly judgemental because he meets in a way that your previous posts have shown you have no interest in...

Play with fire and you will get burned. I think it is a rather lame reason to fall out with a friend.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Blooming heck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I use it instead?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"and people would kill for friendship that long...."

I have 2 friends at 40 years, 2 at 33 years and one at 22 years.

Think I must be ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This epitomises this site for me ,just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but if you thought he was getting deeper into a relationship with the first woman, you would be okay with that. He is still married"

A little hypocritical?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is being deceitful however you look at it to his wife, to you and the girls and to brag about it makes him an arsehole x

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Sounds like a fall out of thieves to me cause he's getting more shags

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Op, I think falling out with a friend of twenty years is very sad and you should do everything in your power to bring about a reconciliation. Friends are very hard to come by, please think again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looking past the moral and ethical issues you're willing to throw away a 20 year friendship for theoretic 'trouble' which may or may not turn up at a flat which you use? Surely if this 'trouble' turns up at this flat and discover that your friends isn't there they'll just leave.

Sounds to me like you didn't value this friendship or you would have seen past these theoretic problems"

Sounds to me like his friend was using the friendship for the flat and not considering the OP - If you shit on your own door step you're bound to stand in it on your way out...

this case he was shitting on the OP's doorstep... lol

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"but if you thought he was getting deeper into a relationship with the first woman, you would be okay with that. He is still married

A little hypocritical? "

How so they would be his fuck buddies nothing more nothing less they would have entered into that arrangement with their eyes wide open .

When we played as a tag team over 5 years ago we mainly but not exclusively played with married women in the same boat as us .

He now has changed the way he plays goes about getting meets I _iew the way he now goes about getting meets as far more likely to lead to trouble I don't want arriving at the flats door or my other friend having to deal with the fall out .

The way he's now choosing to play was a win win for him if trouble happened he'd be long gone leaving me and my other friend holding the baby so to speak ,

I put a stop to it for them reasons alone no other feel bad about it because apart from this he is and has been a good friend to me.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

I think you are correct in asking your friend to be honest with a woman that he is married. Then if she chooses to have sex with him, she knows the score and can hardly come back and start pounding on the door

I guess your friend is lying because he knows that telling women that he is married reduces his chances of finding a woman

I don't comment on whether married men or married women should have sex without their partner's knowledge. I don't know the circumstances and there can always be mitigating circumstances or it could be that they habitually just cheat. Whichever it is, is none of my business

Plenty of married women wanting sex without their partner's knowledge and starting threads such as these on forums. What they are doing is acceptable to most here; its only the married men who are b**t**ds

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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"I think you are correct in asking your friend to be honest with a woman that he is married. Then if she chooses to have sex with him, she knows the score and can hardly come back and start pounding on the door

I guess your friend is lying because he knows that telling women that he is married reduces his chances of finding a woman

All correct as usual was there ever a keener mind .

I'm hoping my friend comes back around after a few days of thinking about it if not then this debauched world has cost me a friendship .

But hay that's life as they say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You never said if wife knows about flat? Be warned it will go very wrong due to someone finding out and wether it's you or friend your wife will find out .trust me it happened to my cousin ,her husband cheated and a friend covered and allowed use of a house .it all came out when the gf husband found out and the friend to save getting hit dropped cousins hubby in it .result ..3 wrecked marriages and a friendship

Curious does your wife know you cheat ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ive seen a lot of hypocrisy on here,but this has to be the most self-deluded nonsense yet.....

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I feel for the poor soul who lives in the flat, who might just get a visit from an irate husband, and be taken as the one who is up to no good........wow what a nice situation to put him in!!!!!

100%

poor fucker, working his cock off for the flat and 2 geezers working their cock off in the flat"

...can you imagine?!! Seriously though...good lord!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"ive seen a lot of hypocrisy on here,but this has to be the most self-deluded nonsense yet....."

Not just me then!

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over a year ago

OP, you are more likely to get trouble from his wife and from yours than any strangers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP, you are more likely to get trouble from his wife and from yours than any strangers."

True and I wouldn't have any symponthy for him or friend only the poor sods being cheated on

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

"ive seen a lot of hypocrisy on here,but this has to be the most self-deluded nonsense yet....."

This

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over a year ago

"ive seen a lot of hypocrisy on here,but this has to be the most self-deluded nonsense yet.....

This

Him for posting thread or me for answering ??

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

So does he know you're letting strangers into his house?

Even people that you don't know into his house"

Isn't that the same thing ?

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By *annooWoman
over a year ago

Hastings

I feel like banging my head against a wall jst going through half of what I've read.

At the end of the day if my mate used my flat and I decided it was out of bounds (for what ever the reason) its mine and if she wanted to throw our friendship away in a hissy fitt because I said it then that's something she brought about regardless of my reasons for doing it

In my opinion u didn't want trouble so stopped the scenario causing the trouble that should have been the end of it. Ur mate should have been grateful he'd had use for as long as he did and invest in hotels from now on and of course keep ur friendship in tact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ive seen a lot of hypocrisy on here,but this has to be the most self-deluded nonsense yet.....

This

Him for posting thread or me for answering ??"

the post,not you....i'd have no sympathy either..

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over a year ago

"ive seen a lot of hypocrisy on here,but this has to be the most self-deluded nonsense yet.....

This

Him for posting thread or me for answering ??

the post,not you....i'd have no sympathy either.."

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel like banging my head against a wall jst going through half of what I've read.

This is how I see it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP I can kinda see your thought process but like I said on another thread from yesterday ~ some thoughts should really remain just that, as 'on paper' they don't pan out very well.....

For what it's worth tho.....I would like to think my friendships were worth more than to fall out over a disagreement about who could fuck who and where they could do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bugger all this, just go to a hotel. Keep life simple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP I can kinda see your thought process but like I said on another thread from yesterday ~ some thoughts should really remain just that, as 'on paper' they don't pan out very well.....

For what it's worth tho.....I would like to think my friendships were worth more than to fall out over a disagreement about who could fuck who and where they could do it."

I'd bet my life though that on this one.. If it was a woman posting it would be different.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

He has rented a flat; it is now his flat till he keeps paying the rent

He is kind enough to let his friend use it from time-to-time but he doesn't want any trouble

He thinks that his friend deceiving women into thinking he is single could cause trouble

I think he is correct is not continuing to allow his friend the use of the flat

He, not once, asked what would happen if his wife finds out or whether others think that his actions amount to cheating

The hypocrisy is when people start chastising him for his cheating but supporting a woman on a similar thread who too is cheating

If his wife finds out then she will probably shout at him or even divorce him

I wonder what the husband of the woman on a similar thread will do to the man he finds her with; shake his hand, most probably

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP I can kinda see your thought process but like I said on another thread from yesterday ~ some thoughts should really remain just that, as 'on paper' they don't pan out very well.....

For what it's worth tho.....I would like to think my friendships were worth more than to fall out over a disagreement about who could fuck who and where they could do it.

I'd bet my life though that on this one.. If it was a woman posting it would be different."

True and while not worth losing friends over who sleeps with more than the other person ..Both are married and cheating on wives and the one who posted thread is annoyed that the other one doesn't admit to it where he does and feals that's okay

Both are complete twats

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP I can kinda see your thought process but like I said on another thread from yesterday ~ some thoughts should really remain just that, as 'on paper' they don't pan out very well.....

For what it's worth tho.....I would like to think my friendships were worth more than to fall out over a disagreement about who could fuck who and where they could do it.

I'd bet my life though that on this one.. If it was a woman posting it would be different."

Probably....but is more of the criticism here not about the perceived hypocrisy, rather than the cheating itself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP I can kinda see your thought process but like I said on another thread from yesterday ~ some thoughts should really remain just that, as 'on paper' they don't pan out very well.....

For what it's worth tho.....I would like to think my friendships were worth more than to fall out over a disagreement about who could fuck who and where they could do it.

I'd bet my life though that on this one.. If it was a woman posting it would be different.

Probably....but is more of the criticism here not about the perceived hypocrisy, rather than the cheating itself?"

i agree,the self-righteousness is as hard to swallow...its ok for his friend to cheat but its up to the OP to decide who he can cheat with??

and has been said already,why would 'trouble' be more likely to come from one of his meets...if both are meeting married women, surely the risk is from their other halves as much as from a woman who has been lied too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP I can kinda see your thought process but like I said on another thread from yesterday ~ some thoughts should really remain just that, as 'on paper' they don't pan out very well.....

For what it's worth tho.....I would like to think my friendships were worth more than to fall out over a disagreement about who could fuck who and where they could do it.

I'd bet my life though that on this one.. If it was a woman posting it would be different.

Probably....but is more of the criticism here not about the perceived hypocrisy, rather than the cheating itself?"

Quite honestly I got a headache reading the whole thread and felt exhausted after it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP I can kinda see your thought process but like I said on another thread from yesterday ~ some thoughts should really remain just that, as 'on paper' they don't pan out very well.....

For what it's worth tho.....I would like to think my friendships were worth more than to fall out over a disagreement about who could fuck who and where they could do it.

I'd bet my life though that on this one.. If it was a woman posting it would be different.

Probably....but is more of the criticism here not about the perceived hypocrisy, rather than the cheating itself?

Quite honestly I got a headache reading the whole thread and felt exhausted after it

I only got about halfway down to be fair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP I can kinda see your thought process but like I said on another thread from yesterday ~ some thoughts should really remain just that, as 'on paper' they don't pan out very well.....

For what it's worth tho.....I would like to think my friendships were worth more than to fall out over a disagreement about who could fuck who and where they could do it.

I'd bet my life though that on this one.. If it was a woman posting it would be different.

Probably....but is more of the criticism here not about the perceived hypocrisy, rather than the cheating itself?

i agree,the self-righteousness is as hard to swallow...its ok for his friend to cheat but its up to the OP to decide who he can cheat with??

I may have been reading it wrong, but I read it as they were both seeing married women at this flat then his friend decided to fuck single ladies (who didn't know he was married) there and these single ladies could cause trouble at the flat if they were to found his friend lied.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"He has rented a flat; it is now his flat till he keeps paying the rent

He is kind enough to let his friend use it from time-to-time but he doesn't want any trouble

He thinks that his friend deceiving women into thinking he is single could cause trouble

I think he is correct is not continuing to allow his friend the use of the flat

He, not once, asked what would happen if his wife finds out or whether others think that his actions amount to cheating

The hypocrisy is when people start chastising him for his cheating but supporting a woman on a similar thread who too is cheating

If his wife finds out then she will probably shout at him or even divorce him

I wonder what the husband of the woman on a similar thread will do to the man he finds her with; shake his hand, most probably"

He has rented the flat out to a single guy. The OP and his married friend both take females to the flat that the single guy rents from the OP. The OP doesn't like the approach the other married guy is taking so has barred his ex friend from shagging in the flat. The OP can still shag in the flat of the single man who is paying rent.

It's just seems a bit late to put conditions of use into a rental lease.... 'you can allow your married mates to shag in the house, but not multiple women'

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

no judgement from me.... they can all shag who they like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hang on, is this a group of fellas who just rent a flat for shagging?

Is someone getting more, and the other is jealous because they are all paying the same?

Sorry if this is all wrong, but I'm not reading all of that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most importantly, who washes the sheets??!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most importantly, who washes the sheets??!!"

Bold

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hang on, is this a group of fellas who just rent a flat for shagging?

Is someone getting more, and the other is jealous because they are all paying the same?

Sorry if this is all wrong, but I'm not reading all of that.

The jealous his mate is getting more statement is just a guess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most importantly, who washes the sheets??!!"

They probably don't get washed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most importantly, who washes the sheets??!!"

You assume they have sheets...

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Good grief... seedy doesn't really cover it.

You appear to have zero respect for someone you claim to be like family. You may own the flat but that's his home. You may know the man you're allowing to take women back there but you don't know the women. Doesn't matter if there's one woman or several... it's not cool on any level.

To allow someone else to use his home as a shag pad is pretty poor and a total breach of your friendship. You agreed terms with him... low rent as long as your friends can come and go as they please?

Wouldn't be for me.

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By *ivinefoxWoman
over a year ago

Coventry

When I was reading this thread, this line from Shakespeare kept popping into my head...

"What a tangled web we weave

When we set out to deceive.."

This will not end well but I look forward to the next instalment!

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Most importantly, who washes the sheets??!!"

The laundry service, ofcourse. Who else does?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good grief... seedy doesn't really cover it.

To allow someone else to use his home as a shag pad is pretty poor and a total breach of your friendship. You agreed terms with him... low rent as long as your friends can come and go as they please?

Wouldn't be for me. "

Well said totally agree