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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

desperate people will do desperate things..

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. "
I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it."

Why should France want to use/spend more resources just because we don't want the people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts? "

joke started out fine, but the punchline needs working on

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

Why should France want to use/spend more resources just because we don't want the people? "
I think instead uk should join forces with france so they share the cost for a solution u recon?

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

Why should France want to use/spend more resources just because we don't want the people? I think instead uk should join forces with france so they share the cost for a solution u recon?"

I don't know enough about what's happening on the ground.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

Why should France want to use/spend more resources just because we don't want the people? I think instead uk should join forces with france so they share the cost for a solution u recon?"

its a global issue and requires a global solution which given the politics of x,y and z will not happen..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and just how far have they walked to get to Calais? Unless Dr Who is doing day trips in his tardis they have crossed through several safe havens to reach Calais. Not just a French problem methinks.

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By *ildt123Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield

Interestingly a local charity from the local Muslim community near here visited the Jungle recently and gave withdrawn their aid and support saying the majority don't need to be there and aren't genuine refugees fleeing conflict.

Tons of the aid sent there is burnt or discarded as its aimed at women and children and its 97% male there.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI


"Interestingly a local charity from the local Muslim community near here visited the Jungle recently and gave withdrawn their aid and support saying the majority don't need to be there and aren't genuine refugees fleeing conflict.

Tons of the aid sent there is burnt or discarded as its aimed at women and children and its 97% male there.

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That's why we're taking refugees from the camps that have existed for years in the neighbouring countries.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts? "

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brick the tunnel up!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've enjoyed the company of every Iranian I've ever met..... and that's a fact....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Awww I read the thread title and thought, sounds like start of a good joke. Bit let down now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let them all in,stick them on a train, then a ferry, help them on their journey north to Iceland.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont think any security measures short off closing the tunnel will prevent them coming in . They are desperate and willing to do anything including risk their lives to get in

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk


"Brick the tunnel up!!!! "

Sounds good to me ...

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

Why should France want to use/spend more resources just because we don't want the people? I think instead uk should join forces with france so they share the cost for a solution u recon?"
we already do we have paid france millions to "help" them with the problem

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These sponsored walks get more flamboyant every year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

Why should France want to use/spend more resources just because we don't want the people? "

Because France is bound to guard the border at the edge of the schengan zone

They chose to open their other borders so they're obligated to protect their border with the country that didnt

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By *mba sweetWoman
over a year ago

suffolk.

Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in."
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I have a problem with people flying in... And flying out!

Fucking earth wreckers

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone..."

Good advert for Nike; just do it

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Uh huh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in."

Set up a road block/check point in the middle?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

*curls lip*

Mature level of debate, as per.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in."

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The interesting thing is in terms of enforcement is that the first country that "officialy" deals with them in arests them automatically then has to officialy take them on as asylum seekers.

So if we stuck a bunch of guards on the French side and caught a load they would then have to bus them all over to Britain

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By *mba sweetWoman
over a year ago

suffolk.

How do you know that they are innocent?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you know that they are innocent?

"

What are they guilty of?

If it's trespassing, is that really worth the death penalty?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?"

i reckon some probably do which is a sad state of affairs, then again i would think with most of them were they to carry arms they would be more of a danger to each other..

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By *mba sweetWoman
over a year ago

suffolk.

Thats just it, we dont know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thats just it, we dont know."

Lol okay, let's murder them just in case.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?"

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported. "

That's clearly not what was suggested. She suggested murder and is willing to kill them herself.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported. "

I thought that is what deportation rules were designed for. Sending back people who are not citizens of that country

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported.

I thought that is what deportation rules were designed for. Sending back people who are not citizens of that country"

In that case let's hope these 2 Iranians are deported then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported.

That's clearly not what was suggested. She suggested murder and is willing to kill them herself. "
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Tory get up and go!

Tebitisim lives on

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported.

I thought that is what deportation rules were designed for. Sending back people who are not citizens of that country

In that case let's hope these 2 Iranians are deported then. "

Only works if they are deported back to Iran and not to Calais. Otherwise, Nike will be sponsoring another two pair of trainers by the weekend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported.

I thought that is what deportation rules were designed for. Sending back people who are not citizens of that country

In that case let's hope these 2 Iranians are deported then. "
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What! Back to Iran... Are you crazy!

There's only three countries considered safe for us to deport back too.

Scotland, Wales and Ireland.. And Ireland's looking doubtful these days

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By *mba sweetWoman
over a year ago

suffolk.

Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported.

I thought that is what deportation rules were designed for. Sending back people who are not citizens of that country

In that case let's hope these 2 Iranians are deported then.

Only works if they are deported back to Iran and not to Calais. Otherwise, Nike will be sponsoring another two pair of trainers by the weekend "

If they came through Germany, surely it would be Adidas?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

"

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it."

If you can't think what more they could do about how can you believe they should do more? That's a bit like saying you want something done but have no idea what you want done.

The reality is that the only way to stop this migration crisis is not in Britain or in France or in Hungary, Greece, Italy. It's not even in Turkey or Libya; it's in the countries they have originally come from. If we can help to give them a life worth living in their own countries most simply won't leave in the first place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. "
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How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!"

Dunno; I prefer our civilised policing methods.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported.

I thought that is what deportation rules were designed for. Sending back people who are not citizens of that country

In that case let's hope these 2 Iranians are deported then.

Only works if they are deported back to Iran and not to Calais. Otherwise, Nike will be sponsoring another two pair of trainers by the weekend

If they came through Germany, surely it would be Adidas? "

But thankfully, they didn't like us Germans enough to make our home, theirs. You English are such nice and hospitable people; xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

If you can't think what more they could do about how can you believe they should do more? That's a bit like saying you want something done but have no idea what you want done.

The reality is that the only way to stop this migration crisis is not in Britain or in France or in Hungary, Greece, Italy. It's not even in Turkey or Libya; it's in the countries they have originally come from. If we can help to give them a life worth living in their own countries most simply won't leave in the first place.

"
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Somebody put the sensible cone on his head and shove him in the sensible corner

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back "

And if they choose not to walk in the right direction what then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Dunno; I prefer our civilised policing methods."
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Oh yeah... Let's tasar them

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

If you can't think what more they could do about how can you believe they should do more? That's a bit like saying you want something done but have no idea what you want done.

The reality is that the only way to stop this migration crisis is not in Britain or in France or in Hungary, Greece, Italy. It's not even in Turkey or Libya; it's in the countries they have originally come from. If we can help to give them a life worth living in their own countries most simply won't leave in the first place.

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Somebody put the sensible cone on his head and shove him in the sensible corner "

Ignore him; he is no fun; all his sensible talk is making me ill

But he does have a point; and a good one. OK, lets have a whip-around

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!"

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

If you can't think what more they could do about how can you believe they should do more? That's a bit like saying you want something done but have no idea what you want done.

The reality is that the only way to stop this migration crisis is not in Britain or in France or in Hungary, Greece, Italy. It's not even in Turkey or Libya; it's in the countries they have originally come from. If we can help to give them a life worth living in their own countries most simply won't leave in the first place.

.

Somebody put the sensible cone on his head and shove him in the sensible corner

Ignore him; he is no fun; all his sensible talk is making me ill

But he does have a point; and a good one. OK, lets have a whip-around"
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Ok I'll whip him first, you can go second

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"2 Iranians walked thru the channel tunnel to the UK "

I thought this was a variation on "TWO men WALK INTO A BAR" joke

was waiting for the punchline

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel. "
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He's saving them for Londoners

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

And if they choose not to walk in the right direction what then?"

Arrest them, put them on a plane and fly them back.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

Why should France want to use/spend more resources just because we don't want the people?

Because France is bound to guard the border at the edge of the schengan zone

They chose to open their other borders so they're obligated to protect their border with the country that didnt"

Actually France has no obligation to stop people leaving the schengan area except what it has bilaterally agreed to.

These people want to come to Britain. It's are problem or benefit if they get here and it us who want to keep them out. Of course we should pay to protect are own borders.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel. .

He's saving them for Londoners "

Missed a trick having the Tory conference in Manchester. Maybe all those egg throwing protestors wouldn't have been so brave with a water cannon looming in the background?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in."

I think most people not just in Britain but in the whole of Europe have a problem with people just walking in.

But so far not many have made it through to Britain by walking through the tunnel yet.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

And if they choose not to walk in the right direction what then?"

What if I choose to steal your neck-tie and when arrested, choose not to walk in the direction of the Police station. You are not suggesting that this is a personal decision one should be permitted to make

Force will need to be used. Maybe that is why it is called a Police force and not the Labour party

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Set up a road block/check point in the middle?

"

I think it's probably better to have the road block/check point to stop people illegally conning into Britain at the entrance to the tunnel on the French side. Funnily enough that's exactly where it currently is.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?"

They haven't said that yet so don't give them the idea.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

They haven't said that yet so don't give them the idea."

All you guys are armed with is pen-knives; get real

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Thats just it, we dont know."

A person is only guiltily in law once they have been tried and found guilty by a court of law. Therefore most, if not all, of these people, just like you and me, are legally not guilty.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Make international access and exit points to the tunnel as highly secure as airports are. I don't feel you could arrive at a French airport from an international non European flight and hop over a fence so easily.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported. "

As, so far, most of the ones in France have not actually arrived here how can we deport them? France could deport them but where to?

Also most illegal when caught in the UK are deported if it is safe to do so.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Do these other concerned citizens also advocate slaughtering people with firearms when innocent civilians enter our land?

No not slaughtering them with firearms but many people think illegal immigrants should be deported.

I thought that is what deportation rules were designed for. Sending back people who are not citizens of that country

In that case let's hope these 2 Iranians are deported then. "

Unless they can make a case for asylum they probably will be.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

"

Actually about 40,000 people a year are removed or deported from the UK. Not exactly a very low number.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are all one race! Peace to them

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel. "

Wouldn't that cause a bit of a problem with the electrics on the trains?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"What do you want France to do? Gun down anyone who gets past?

If I were France, I'd just let them through. I wouldn't be bothered keeping them out of another country if they were in my country. I think france is quite relaxed with them as they allow "the jungle" to be there cos france don't want them so they let them be there. I believe they could do more to stop it, but not sure what they could do about it.

If you can't think what more they could do about how can you believe they should do more? That's a bit like saying you want something done but have no idea what you want done.

The reality is that the only way to stop this migration crisis is not in Britain or in France or in Hungary, Greece, Italy. It's not even in Turkey or Libya; it's in the countries they have originally come from. If we can help to give them a life worth living in their own countries most simply won't leave in the first place.

.

Somebody put the sensible cone on his head and shove him in the sensible corner

Ignore him; he is no fun; all his sensible talk is making me ill

But he does have a point; and a good one. OK, lets have a whip-around.

Ok I'll whip him first, you can go second"

That's more like it.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel.

Wouldn't that cause a bit of a problem with the electrics on the trains? "

It's not for the trains. It's for the illegals walking through the tunnel.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

And if they choose not to walk in the right direction what then?

Arrest them, put them on a plane and fly them back. "

If we (Britain or British authorities) arrested them then they become Britain's responsibility. We'd have to actually bring them into Britain and then consider any application for asylum. If you really don't want them here it's far better to let the French deal with them.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

And if they choose not to walk in the right direction what then?

What if I choose to steal your neck-tie and when arrested, choose not to walk in the direction of the Police station. You are not suggesting that this is a personal decision one should be permitted to make

Force will need to be used. Maybe that is why it is called a Police force and not the Labour party "

It's a lot more difficult to force hundreds, thousands, or maybe even hundreds of thousands, to do what you want than it is to force one or two.

And, like I said just above, if we do arrest any of them then, legally, they become Britain's responsibility and problem whereas currently they are France's

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

And if they choose not to walk in the right direction what then?

Arrest them, put them on a plane and fly them back.

If we (Britain or British authorities) arrested them then they become Britain's responsibility. We'd have to actually bring them into Britain and then consider any application for asylum. If you really don't want them here it's far better to let the French deal with them."

I'm talking about the illegal immigrants already in Britain, not the ones in France. Clearly the ones in France are Frances responsibility.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel.

Wouldn't that cause a bit of a problem with the electrics on the trains?

It's not for the trains. It's for the illegals walking through the tunnel. "

I get that but wouldn't spraying loads of water into a tunnel full of electric 'things' to make the electric trains work cause a few problems?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Will you two just get a room?!

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

And if they choose not to walk in the right direction what then?

What if I choose to steal your neck-tie and when arrested, choose not to walk in the direction of the Police station. You are not suggesting that this is a personal decision one should be permitted to make

Force will need to be used. Maybe that is why it is called a Police force and not the Labour party

It's a lot more difficult to force hundreds, thousands, or maybe even hundreds of thousands, to do what you want than it is to force one or two.

And, like I said just above, if we do arrest any of them then, legally, they become Britain's responsibility and problem whereas currently they are France's"

You are confusing the 2 separate issues. This thread is about the 2 Iranians who walked through the tunnel onto uk territory and that is what people are commenting on. Also a more general common issue with illegal immigrants in Britain.

The ones in France are a separate issue and Frances responsibility.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

And if they choose not to walk in the right direction what then?

Arrest them, put them on a plane and fly them back.

If we (Britain or British authorities) arrested them then they become Britain's responsibility. We'd have to actually bring them into Britain and then consider any application for asylum. If you really don't want them here it's far better to let the French deal with them.

I'm talking about the illegal immigrants already in Britain, not the ones in France. Clearly the ones in France are Frances responsibility. "

Sorry, I thought we were talking about the ones in France. That is what this whole thread has been about so far. Can we save illegal immigrants already in Britain for another thread on another day?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

Turn them around and make them

Walk back

And if they choose not to walk in the right direction what then?

What if I choose to steal your neck-tie and when arrested, choose not to walk in the direction of the Police station. You are not suggesting that this is a personal decision one should be permitted to make

Force will need to be used. Maybe that is why it is called a Police force and not the Labour party

It's a lot more difficult to force hundreds, thousands, or maybe even hundreds of thousands, to do what you want than it is to force one or two.

And, like I said just above, if we do arrest any of them then, legally, they become Britain's responsibility and problem whereas currently they are France's

You are confusing the 2 separate issues. This thread is about the 2 Iranians who walked through the tunnel onto uk territory and that is what people are commenting on. Also a more general common issue with illegal immigrants in Britain.

The ones in France are a separate issue and Frances responsibility. "

I'm glad we agree on something.

With regard to the two who have been arrested, as I have already said, unless they can make a case for asylum, they will probably be deported unless it's unsafe to do so.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"...

Force will need to be used. Maybe that is why it is called a Police force and not the Labour party

It's a lot more difficult to force hundreds, thousands, or maybe even hundreds of thousands, to do what you want than it is to force one or two.

And, like I said just above, if we do arrest any of them then, legally, they become Britain's responsibility and problem whereas currently they are France's"

The longer your country does not deal with this issue the bigger it will become. A time will come that the hundreds of thousands (which there aren't at the moment) will turn into millions. Where are you going to put them all; who is going to feed them?

Maybe your original suggestion of making things better for them in the places where they come from is the only viable solution. It will still cost, but it won't cost a hundredth of what it will be when they all arrive here

Maybe if the situation in Syria was better (and that will cost money in sending forces over there; probably not possible now with the Russians there first), there won't be that much of an excuse for the migrants to come here

Can't see what the Iranians and the Indians are escaping from though. I think they have just jumped on the bandwagon

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel.

Wouldn't that cause a bit of a problem with the electrics on the trains?

It's not for the trains. It's for the illegals walking through the tunnel.

I get that but wouldn't spraying loads of water into a tunnel full of electric 'things' to make the electric trains work cause a few problems?"

It was a tongue in cheek comment, the emoticon was a hint, didn't think you would take it so serious, lol.

But considering its so dangerous with all the "Electric things" about the place shouldn't we and the French be doing more to stop people walking down the tunnel in the first place if it's so dangerous inside there?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Pull the plug on the "electric things" and then use a hairdryer to dry 'em "electric things" later

[ gosh, he is so technical tonight ]

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"...

Force will need to be used. Maybe that is why it is called a Police force and not the Labour party

It's a lot more difficult to force hundreds, thousands, or maybe even hundreds of thousands, to do what you want than it is to force one or two.

And, like I said just above, if we do arrest any of them then, legally, they become Britain's responsibility and problem whereas currently they are France's

The longer your country does not deal with this issue the bigger it will become. A time will come that the hundreds of thousands (which there aren't at the moment) will turn into millions. Where are you going to put them all; who is going to feed them?

Maybe your original suggestion of making things better for them in the places where they come from is the only viable solution. It will still cost, but it won't cost a hundredth of what it will be when they all arrive here

Maybe if the situation in Syria was better (and that will cost money in sending forces over there; probably not possible now with the Russians there first), there won't be that much of an excuse for the migrants to come here

Can't see what the Iranians and the Indians are escaping from though. I think they have just jumped on the bandwagon"

I totally agree, the problem has to be addressed and the solution is definitely not to just let them all come into either Britain or the EU. I have no doubt in my mind that most, although not all, these migrants flooding into Europe currently are driven by economics rather than fear of death. But people in economic crisis can be just as desperate as anyone else.

I firmly believe that the problem has to be solved at source. That means more but better targeted foreign aid being given to the originating countries. I won't be easy, it won't be cheap but it will be better, cheaper and easier than trying to stop them at the borders of Europe, at the tunnel or on the streets of Britain itself.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel.

Wouldn't that cause a bit of a problem with the electrics on the trains?

It's not for the trains. It's for the illegals walking through the tunnel.

I get that but wouldn't spraying loads of water into a tunnel full of electric 'things' to make the electric trains work cause a few problems?

It was a tongue in cheek comment, the emoticon was a hint, didn't think you would take it so serious, lol.

But considering its so dangerous with all the "Electric things" about the place shouldn't we and the French be doing more to stop people walking down the tunnel in the first place if it's so dangerous inside there? "

I know.

You must have missed my smiley on my first reply too.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

Oh well, of to bed now. Got a busy day tomorrow ferrying migrants across the Chanel.

I never realised how big the boot is on my car until this year. Can get at least five in there each trip, possibly 6 if they're Chinese.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its sad. We live in a world where we will start a fight, then throw money in to help mend it. Its a con. West is funding the world claps. Then showing us "we are trying to help." You look at how much each missile is costing, Then look at the money they are putting in to help the innocent suffering people rebuild. Its a con!

New World Order...read it, its happening.

A world governed by 1 organisation!

You heard this hear first 2020 is when we will be seeing a third world war, give or take a year. Real destruction.

USA,ENGLAND& E.U. Vs RUSSIA,CHINA, IRAN AND THE REST OF THE MIDDLE EAST.

Russia and America are flexing there muscles to each other at the moment. China are keeping quiet because there fleet of the most impressive and largest fleet of ships are looking to be finished by 2020..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also. We are hearing of billions and billions, maybe trillions of dollers in donations to help the middle eastern refugees.but what have you seen it spent on???????

Other than temp camps, have you seen land being used to build a civilization??

Gather them all up, give them food, shelter and the opportunity to build a city like there own, churches, flats houses, gyms, museums.

BUT SHUT OUR DOORS!!!

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

Shut the Doors.. !!

Blow the tunnel up.. !!

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

They thought it was a persian fanny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"2 Iranian men did a 31-mile walk from Calais to the Eurotunnel entrance in Folkestone, Kent, they were picked up by security and been remanded in custody after appearing in court charged with obstructing trains.

Should France do more to stop them and could they tighten security at the tunnel entrance, whats your thoughts?

joke started out fine, but the punchline needs working on "

Lets face it - it is one BIG joke!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe if the situation in Syria was better (and that will cost money in sending forces over there; probably not possible now with the Russians there first), there won't be that much of an excuse for the migrants to come here"

Well it already cost us lots of money to supply guns and ammunition to the terrorists to start the wars in Libia and Syria, and now the Russians are bombing our sponsored terrorists it will be costing us more to re-supply them, in order to scare more people out of their own countries. Some Accountant somewhere has probably worked out how much UK tax money it costs to create each refugee we can then object to when they come knocking on our tunnel

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By *istalloverCouple
over a year ago

Pays de la Loire -Normandie -Brittany borderFrance


"These sponsored walks get more flamboyant every year "

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By *istalloverCouple
over a year ago

Pays de la Loire -Normandie -Brittany borderFrance


"They thought it was a persian fanny"

No Iranian .

they didnt have a carpet to fly in on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Set up a road block/check point in the middle?

I think it's probably better to have the road block/check point to stop people illegally conning into Britain at the entrance to the tunnel on the French side. Funnily enough that's exactly where it currently is."

Except it's a fairly complicated one out by the entrance a block in the mile of the tunnel is fairly simple mainly cause there's a pretty limited field of movement in a tunnel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also. We are hearing of billions and billions, maybe trillions of dollers in donations to help the middle eastern refugees.but what have you seen it spent on???????

Other than temp camps, have you seen land being used to build a civilization??

Gather them all up, give them food, shelter and the opportunity to build a city like there own, churches, flats houses, gyms, museums.

BUT SHUT OUR DOORS!!! "

Where?

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Actually about 40,000 people a year are removed or deported from the UK. Not exactly a very low number."

And the last survey carried out ( in 2010) said that 1.1 Million illegal immigrants are in the UK...nearly 30 times bigger than the ' not exactly low number' of 40,000 deported

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel. "

Wouldn't that fuck up my chances of getting the train to get my duty frees?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"They thought it was a persian fanny

No Iranian .

they didnt have a carpet to fly in on"

You don't know your airlines very well, now do you?

It is Air India which has a fleet of flying carpets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Deportation is very low here. Its also a long and slow progress.

Yeh, best go back to Plan A and shoot them. .

How about we compromise and shoot them with rubber bullets!

Boris Johnson has got two unused water cannons going spare in London. We could move them to Dover and aim them at the opening of the tunnel.

Wouldn't that fuck up my chances of getting the train to get my duty frees?"

.they're using the road/service tunel not the train tunnel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"desperate people will do desperate things.."
yes hope they were wearing walking shoes coz it's damn hard on your feet

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Yes but thats not the issue here.

I and a lot of other people have a problem with people just walking in.

Set up a road block/check point in the middle?

I think it's probably better to have the road block/check point to stop people illegally conning into Britain at the entrance to the tunnel on the French side. Funnily enough that's exactly where it currently is.

Except it's a fairly complicated one out by the entrance a block in the mile of the tunnel is fairly simple mainly cause there's a pretty limited field of movement in a tunnel "

I think we need to keep things in proportion. There are thousands of migrants trying to get into Britain from France. Most are unsuccessful but those that do get here normally get here by hiding in the back of lorries. So far only 2 have managed to get here by walking through the tunnel and they have been arrested and will probably be deported. It seems to me that the current security arrangements with regard to migrants walking through the tunnel are working pretty well. Surely it would be better to put any extra resources into searching more lorries, which is where the real problem is, rather than waste it on a measure which is only likely to catch and stop 1 or 2 migrants a year, if that.

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