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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car. "It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same"Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it. | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it. "Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important. I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket. | |||
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"ATM we're all in a nice 'comfort zone' and happily lulled/conned into thinking we are getting a good deal on our fuel. The 'Great British diesel rip off' ended with a whimper (how did that happen?) Now, can someone tell me why 3 different Sainsbury outlets within 20 miles of each other can charge £105.9, £107.9 and £109.9 for unleaded? Do they get better fuel in the 'sticks' and cheap rubbish in the cities? Or 2 BP outlets practically opposite each other on the Birmingham new road be usually 2 or 3p per ltr different? Any answer other than Disgusting Profiteering will be hard to swallow but I know someone will do their best lol." The simple answer is they have ordered fuel at different times due to the demand at their particular location. Fuel varies in price daily and even the supemarkets pay a different price depending on when the fuel is ordered. There are many other reasons but you obviously want to claim profiteering | |||
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"The point I am making is not the price or quality. How can the same franchise eg Sainsbury or BP charge different prices at different locations on the same day only a few miles apart, probably delivered by the same tanker. " It's just regional pricing, for example London will be more expensive than Leicester. There's loads of variables and it's been happening for years. | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket."Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two | |||
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"The point I am making is not the price or quality. How can the same franchise eg Sainsbury or BP charge different prices at different locations on the same day only a few miles apart, probably delivered by the same tanker. " Oh come on, there have to be some consolations for living oop norf. Cheaper prices are only fair! 
Ps. It might be 'competition'
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"ATM we're all in a nice 'comfort zone' and happily lulled/conned into thinking we are getting a good deal on our fuel. The 'Great British diesel rip off' ended with a whimper (how did that happen?) Now, can someone tell me why 3 different Sainsbury outlets within 20 miles of each other can charge £105.9, £107.9 and £109.9 for unleaded? Do they get better fuel in the 'sticks' and cheap rubbish in the cities? Or 2 BP outlets practically opposite each other on the Birmingham new road be usually 2 or 3p per ltr different? Any answer other than Disgusting Profiteering will be hard to swallow but I know someone will do their best lol." A free market economy, shock horor! Do you run a business? If you did, would you feel the need to make a loss or would you prefer to charge enough to make a profit and have some nice holidays? Do they stop your car with tanks and the threat of missiles and imminent death and escort you to the pump? You seem to have some economic sense, so if you can get fuel cheaper elsewhere ... | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two"It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference. | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two
It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference."*each* | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two
It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference."Thats true. I put once at tesco and i feel power difference and smoke. I have never have smoke from exaust | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two
It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference.
Thats true. I put once at tesco and i feel power difference and smoke. I have never have smoke from exaust"I can do between 50-100 miles more on a tank of diesel from Asda, than I can from Morrisons. What's that all about??  | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two
It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference.
Thats true. I put once at tesco and i feel power difference and smoke. I have never have smoke from exaust
I can do between 50-100 miles more on a tank of diesel from Asda, than I can from Morrisons.
What's that all about?? "Different cetane rating. | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two
It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference.
Thats true. I put once at tesco and i feel power difference and smoke. I have never have smoke from exaust
I can do between 50-100 miles more on a tank of diesel from Asda, than I can from Morrisons.
What's that all about??
Different cetane rating."They just add some liquid with nearly same cetane rating who burns faster. That i know for sure. | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two
It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference.
Thats true. I put once at tesco and i feel power difference and smoke. I have never have smoke from exaust
I can do between 50-100 miles more on a tank of diesel from Asda, than I can from Morrisons.
What's that all about??
Different cetane rating.
They just add some liquid with nearly same cetane rating who burns faster. That i know for sure."And that liquid is acetone. | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two
It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference.
Thats true. I put once at tesco and i feel power difference and smoke. I have never have smoke from exaust
I can do between 50-100 miles more on a tank of diesel from Asda, than I can from Morrisons.
What's that all about??
Different cetane rating.
They just add some liquid with nearly same cetane rating who burns faster. That i know for sure.
And that liquid is acetone."Interesting.... | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two
It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference.
Thats true. I put once at tesco and i feel power difference and smoke. I have never have smoke from exaust
I can do between 50-100 miles more on a tank of diesel from Asda, than I can from Morrisons.
What's that all about??
Different cetane rating.
They just add some liquid with nearly same cetane rating who burns faster. That i know for sure.
And that liquid is acetone.
Interesting.... "Don't go pouring a bottle of nail varnish remover into your fuel tank. The ratio has to be correct otherwise you'll affect the fuels ability to combust under pressure and you'll damage your turbo. Fuel system cleaners are basically just paraffin and you can add that to your tank at 200ml to 60ltrs of fuel. | |||
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" I'm guessing all the local stations are 'privately' owned so set their own local prices. " Generally petrol stations are either company run or a franchise. Either way the oil company tell them how much they will charge them and how much they must sell it at... You get the odd independent, they can buy their fuel from which ever supplier they want and sell it at a price they want but they are in the minority... The supermarketsame are happy to make a £2 loss on a tank of fuel as they know most customers will spend a he'll of a lot more on their monthly or weekly shops... Petrol stations generally make 1 or 2 pence on a litre of fuel after they have paid for the fuel. Out of that 2p they then have to pay the business costs. Their profits are made in the shop... | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket.
Each to their own, but I've never had any probs with using fuel from supermarkets and that's with having put over 200,000 miles on the clock and hardly ever filling at anywhere but supermarkets
However, back to the original point, I think the price difference at nearby stations of the same brand, is just because they can! Some areas, they can get away with adding an extra penny or two
It's not a case of wash to their own it's a fact. Strip your engine down and strip mine down and there will be a difference. Put them both on a dynomometer and there will be a difference.
Thats true. I put once at tesco and i feel power difference and smoke. I have never have smoke from exaust
I can do between 50-100 miles more on a tank of diesel from Asda, than I can from Morrisons.
What's that all about??
Different cetane rating.
They just add some liquid with nearly same cetane rating who burns faster. That i know for sure.
And that liquid is acetone.
Interesting....
Don't go pouring a bottle of nail varnish remover into your fuel tank. The ratio has to be correct otherwise you'll affect the fuels ability to combust under pressure and you'll damage your turbo.
Fuel system cleaners are basically just paraffin and you can add that to your tank at 200ml to 60ltrs of fuel."i once put wrong fuel. In place of diesel put petrol. Driving no problems only next day can start it up. So they can mixed what they want and how they want | |||
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" It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. " He's wrong then. " Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important." It's not bad for your car at all. As it all comes from the same refinery (watch the various tankers draw fuel from the same pipes attached to the same tanks), that means all the standard fuel from every garage in existence would be bad for your car & that simply isn't the case. All fuel must meet set standards of quality. If you want to buy super or V-power with the various additives then that's your choice but standard supermarket juice is exactly the same as BP, Shell or any other brand you can name. It's all from the same tin can. | |||
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"ATM we're all in a nice 'comfort zone' and happily lulled/conned into thinking we are getting a good deal on our fuel. The 'Great British diesel rip off' ended with a whimper (how did that happen?) Now, can someone tell me why 3 different Sainsbury outlets within 20 miles of each other can charge £105.9, £107.9 and £109.9 for unleaded? Do they get better fuel in the 'sticks' and cheap rubbish in the cities? Or 2 BP outlets practically opposite each other on the Birmingham new road be usually 2 or 3p per ltr different? Any answer other than Disgusting Profiteering will be hard to swallow but I know someone will do their best lol." . Margins on petrol sales are generally very low . It can hardly be called profiteering . No one is compelled to use a particular fuel station . | |||
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"ATM we're all in a nice 'comfort zone' and happily lulled/conned into thinking we are getting a good deal on our fuel. The 'Great British diesel rip off' ended with a whimper (how did that happen?) Now, can someone tell me why 3 different Sainsbury outlets within 20 miles of each other can charge £105.9, £107.9 and £109.9 for unleaded? Do they get better fuel in the 'sticks' and cheap rubbish in the cities? Or 2 BP outlets practically opposite each other on the Birmingham new road be usually 2 or 3p per ltr different? Any answer other than Disgusting Profiteering will be hard to swallow but I know someone will do their best lol." . £1.10... And crude at a low of 45 bucks a barrel 
Whatever happened to the people who told me that it will fall well below a quid when the oil drops in price!
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" i once put wrong fuel. In place of diesel put petrol. Driving no problems only next day can start it up. So they can mixed what they want and how they want" Diesel engines are far more tolerant of the fuel they use. In the old days, lorry drivers used to put some petrol in the tank to stop the diesel freezing in winter. Putting diesel into a modern petrol engine can easily wreck it... | |||
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"I spent a lot on my car. Cheap fuel from supermarkets is cheaper for a reason. Whilst I may just fill and go, I give a toss that I'm not putting poor quality fuel in higher performance car.
It's cheaper because of the deal they get based on how they purchase it, it comes from the same place and the companies that make the additives supply them all. BP TEXACO ESSO or ASDA it's all the same
Not according to the mechanic friend of my Dads. I have no proof of this obviously, I just figured he knew what he was on about so I took his advice. It makes zero odds to him where I get my fuel. For the pennies involved, I'm happy with convenience and that's not the supermarket so it really makes no odds to me either. I just need my wheels to turn and that's as much as I think about it.
Technically it is the same fuel and it does come from the same place. However. The additives that are added at the pump make all the difference and supermarkets don't have them (with the exception of Tesco). This is why supermarket fuel is so bad for your car, it doesn't contain anything that will clean your injectors or fuel system or help lubricate your fuel pump and with modern direct injection petrol and diesel engines those things are very important.
I will NEVER use fuel from a supermarket."All supermarket fuel contains detergents | |||
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" It's not bad for your car at all. As it all comes from the same refinery (watch the various tankers draw fuel from the same pipes attached to the same tanks), that means all the standard fuel from every garage in existence would be bad for your car & that simply isn't the case. All fuel must meet set standards of quality. If you want to buy super or V-power with the various additives then that's your choice but standard supermarket juice is exactly the same as BP, Shell or any other brand you can name. It's all from the same tin can. " Yes the takers do fill up at the same storage depots.However when they type their order number in, it tells the the pumping system how much fuel to put in the tanker and which additives to mix in. If you you remember one of the supermarkets mucked up a while back and ordered the wrong additives. It cost them a lot of compensation to repair/replace damaged engines and fuel systems... | |||
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"That was down to human error on somebody's part but doesn't mean supermarket fuel is bad for your car. " It really isn't great for your car. Like I said earlier if you strip two similar engines down - one run on supermarket fuel and one run on Shell fuel for example, the difference will be noticeable, especially on the exhaust valves and the amount of carbon inside the inlet manifold. Also if you put them both on a dynomometer there will be a difference in bhp and torque output. | |||
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"That was down to human error on somebody's part but doesn't mean supermarket fuel is bad for your car. It really isn't great for your car. Like I said earlier if you strip two similar engines down - one run on supermarket fuel and one run on Shell fuel for example, the difference will be noticeable, especially on the exhaust valves and the amount of carbon inside the inlet manifold. Also if you put them both on a dynomometer there will be a difference in bhp and torque output." Got a Dyno sheet for proof? | |||
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"That was down to human error on somebody's part but doesn't mean supermarket fuel is bad for your car. It really isn't great for your car. Like I said earlier if you strip two similar engines down - one run on supermarket fuel and one run on Shell fuel for example, the difference will be noticeable, especially on the exhaust valves and the amount of carbon inside the inlet manifold. Also if you put them both on a dynomometer there will be a difference in bhp and torque output. Got a Dyno sheet for proof?" Personally? I don't have two comparible dyno print-outs for my own vehicle but I do have several print-outs (before and after) from when it was mapped. A friend of mine owns a dyno and I could get my hands on or arrange a day where these things could be compared. Owners would have to pay for the dyno runs themselves though. I'm sure if you Google The numerous tests that have been carried out though you'll find the evidence you seek. | |||
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"That was down to human error on somebody's part but doesn't mean supermarket fuel is bad for your car. It really isn't great for your car. Like I said earlier if you strip two similar engines down - one run on supermarket fuel and one run on Shell fuel for example, the difference will be noticeable, especially on the exhaust valves and the amount of carbon inside the inlet manifold. Also if you put them both on a dynomometer there will be a difference in bhp and torque output. Got a Dyno sheet for proof? Personally? I don't have two comparible dyno print-outs for my own vehicle but I do have several print-outs (before and after) from when it was mapped. A friend of mine owns a dyno and I could get my hands on or arrange a day where these things could be compared. Owners would have to pay for the dyno runs themselves though. I'm sure if you Google The numerous tests that have been carried out though you'll find the evidence you seek." Reason I asked was because the only results I could find were either from fuel manufacturers tests or heavily modified/remaped cars that I'd question the mapping would interfere can't find one that's just standard engine fed supermarket versus fancy. In the bike commute /motorway slog I always use whatevers cheapest for fund days or when I want to thrash it I tend to use vpower etc just for the nicer adaptive package when the engines going to be doing way more work. But I can't really see there being a different in power/torque unless your car is knocking and that's being fixed by the higher octane rating | |||
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"That was down to human error on somebody's part but doesn't mean supermarket fuel is bad for your car. It really isn't great for your car. Like I said earlier if you strip two similar engines down - one run on supermarket fuel and one run on Shell fuel for example, the difference will be noticeable, especially on the exhaust valves and the amount of carbon inside the inlet manifold. Also if you put them both on a dynomometer there will be a difference in bhp and torque output. Got a Dyno sheet for proof? Personally? I don't have two comparible dyno print-outs for my own vehicle but I do have several print-outs (before and after) from when it was mapped. A friend of mine owns a dyno and I could get my hands on or arrange a day where these things could be compared. Owners would have to pay for the dyno runs themselves though. I'm sure if you Google The numerous tests that have been carried out though you'll find the evidence you seek. Reason I asked was because the only results I could find were either from fuel manufacturers tests or heavily modified/remaped cars that I'd question the mapping would interfere can't find one that's just standard engine fed supermarket versus fancy. In the bike commute /motorway slog I always use whatevers cheapest for fund days or when I want to thrash it I tend to use vpower etc just for the nicer adaptive package when the engines going to be doing way more work. But I can't really see there being a different in power/torque unless your car is knocking and that's being fixed by the higher octane rating " The power/torque difference is mostly down to the fuel system, valves and inlet manifold being cleaner allowing better fuel spray patterns (therefore better atomization of fuel and better combustion) and better airflow into and out of the engine due to there being fewer carbon deposits. An engine is just a big air pump so having the best airflow gives a performance increase. Other additives include lubricants for the fuel pump since the introduction of low sulphur fuels. Most modern cars have two fuel pumps (low pressure from the tank to fuel rail and high pressure from the fuel rail to injectors). Without these lubricants fuel pressure and longevity of the pumps can be affected, many older cars suffered failures when the low sulphur firmness first introduced. | |||
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"That was down to human error on somebody's part but doesn't mean supermarket fuel is bad for your car. It really isn't great for your car. Like I said earlier if you strip two similar engines down - one run on supermarket fuel and one run on Shell fuel for example, the difference will be noticeable, especially on the exhaust valves and the amount of carbon inside the inlet manifold. Also if you put them both on a dynomometer there will be a difference in bhp and torque output. Got a Dyno sheet for proof? Personally? I don't have two comparible dyno print-outs for my own vehicle but I do have several print-outs (before and after) from when it was mapped. A friend of mine owns a dyno and I could get my hands on or arrange a day where these things could be compared. Owners would have to pay for the dyno runs themselves though. I'm sure if you Google The numerous tests that have been carried out though you'll find the evidence you seek. Reason I asked was because the only results I could find were either from fuel manufacturers tests or heavily modified/remaped cars that I'd question the mapping would interfere can't find one that's just standard engine fed supermarket versus fancy. In the bike commute /motorway slog I always use whatevers cheapest for fund days or when I want to thrash it I tend to use vpower etc just for the nicer adaptive package when the engines going to be doing way more work. But I can't really see there being a different in power/torque unless your car is knocking and that's being fixed by the higher octane rating The power/torque difference is mostly down to the fuel system, valves and inlet manifold being cleaner allowing better fuel spray patterns (therefore better atomization of fuel and better combustion) and better airflow into and out of the engine due to there being fewer carbon deposits. An engine is just a big air pump so having the best airflow gives a performance increase. Other additives include lubricants for the fuel pump since the introduction of low sulphur fuels. Most modern cars have two fuel pumps (low pressure from the tank to fuel rail and high pressure from the fuel rail to injectors). Without these lubricants fuel pressure and longevity of the pumps can be affected, many older cars suffered failures when the low sulphur firmness first introduced." *fuels* | |||
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