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By *erryg OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

denton

on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit"

Having too many sick days I can understand. You want reliable staff with a good team attitude. The toilet break rule is a bit harsh and probably illegal.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit"

So you'd be happy working somewhere where all your colleagues go off sick with no consequences leaving you to do their share of the work then?!

The no toilet break thing does sound slightly illegal unless their shift hours are short enough to warrant using break times for all that. I used to work somewhere where you were allowed a certain amount of time a day for 'personal time'. They couldn't really do anything of you went over it but it was flagged and discussed with you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

shit T&C approved by shit governments over the years,no unions, Government & emplyers do what they like nowadays

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By *imply_SensualMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit"

Agree it sounds harsh but at the other end of the scale you have the public sector, where in parts of it, staff receive very favourable sick pay which can result in some people using it as an extension their annual leave entitlement without any consequence to them. The impact is felt by their colleagues who pick up the extra work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Agree it sounds harsh but at the other end of the scale you have the public sector, where in parts of it, staff receive very favourable sick pay which can result in some people using it as an extension their annual leave entitlement without any consequence to them. The impact is felt by their colleagues who pick up the extra work."

Spot on.

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By *erryg OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

denton


"on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit

So you'd be happy working somewhere where all your colleagues go off sick with no consequences leaving you to do their share of the work then?!

The no toilet break thing does sound slightly illegal unless their shift hours are short enough to warrant using break times for all that. I used to work somewhere where you were allowed a certain amount of time a day for 'personal time'. They couldn't really do anything of you went over it but it was flagged and discussed with you. "
one of the workers who was sick was pregant, people are people they get sick even the people in charge must get sick, as for toilet breaks they had bottles with sports direct on them where workers had pissed in my have done for cameras i dont know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit

Agree it sounds harsh but at the other end of the scale you have the public sector, where in parts of it, staff receive very favourable sick pay which can result in some people using it as an extension their annual leave entitlement without any consequence to them. The impact is felt by their colleagues who pick up the extra work."

I used to work for a company that paid people for their sick days. People took the piss and we constantly had to have agency workers called in which cost the company considerably more. Eventually they stopped paying for sick days and got rid of the worst offenders. After that the sickness rate dropped massively.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

Where I work is similar.

If you're absent/sick three times in a 12-month rolling period, they consider your attendance to be unsatisfactory and it triggers a process (basically a disciplinary process with a tiered style meeting approach).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where I work is similar.

If you're absent/sick three times in a 12-month rolling period, they consider your attendance to be unsatisfactory and it triggers a process (basically a disciplinary process with a tiered style meeting approach).

"

Same with my company. I think that's a pretty standard HR/employee policy isn't it.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy


"on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit

Agree it sounds harsh but at the other end of the scale you have the public sector, where in parts of it, staff receive very favourable sick pay which can result in some people using it as an extension their annual leave entitlement without any consequence to them. The impact is felt by their colleagues who pick up the extra work.

I used to work for a company that paid people for their sick days. People took the piss and we constantly had to have agency workers called in which cost the company considerably more. Eventually they stopped paying for sick days and got rid of the worst offenders. After that the sickness rate dropped massively."

I don't get paid for taking time off sick. Whilst I agree in principal, we're not androids and occasionally a human being will not be well enough to do a days work. Many people who I work with can't afford to take the day off sick (because they won't get paid), so have to attend work ill whilst still contagious (and feeling like shit) making others ill, in the process.

The rule is fundamentally flawed.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

More than likely they will move through the stages of the Absence Policy that will lead ultimately to dismissal, if all the trigger points are hit.

Seems fair as some see Absence Days as an entitlement to have every year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The trouble with sickness is people drop out easily losing a day here and there that's not fair on their colleagues, the problem is when someone has a genuine sickness they are then penalised which can be unfair, the government ssp isn't really any use either. But as with most things it's the minority that ruins it for the majority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More than likely they will move through the stages of the Absence Policy that will lead ultimately to dismissal, if all the trigger points are hit.

Seems fair as some see Absence Days as an entitlement to have every year."

Exactly.

Sadly too many piss takers.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Its work practices are highly questionable, employing many on zero hours and expecting turn up at the drop of a hat.

Such insecure employment increases I'll health and I'd prefer this company obliterated and replaced by an ethically motivated alternative. Its management are obvious vermin, the scum of the business world.

Decent working conditions should be an absolute minimum for all - this is a hugely profitable company that has chosen to be a bottom feeder. Avoid it, it's a blight on society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its work practices are highly questionable, employing many on zero hours and expecting turn up at the drop of a hat.

Such insecure employment increases I'll health and I'd prefer this company obliterated and replaced by an ethically motivated alternative. Its management are obvious vermin, the scum of the business world.

Decent working conditions should be an absolute minimum for all - this is a hugely profitable company that has chosen to be a bottom feeder. Avoid it, it's a blight on society."

Most of the stuff it sells is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will Mike Ashley and the board of directors sack themselves if they develop a long term illness?

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

To further deter people from taking a day off sick, you must be free of all symptoms for 48 hrs before returning to work - effectively missing three days' pay.

Needless to say, the only people that take time off sick where I work, are people who are genuinely too ill to go work.

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By *erryg OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

denton

there will be a few who play on sick days, monday club is the most popular, one company i work for had a purge on this a lot have to much to drink weekend and duck monday, if you was self employed you may think twice, as the customer is your employer, and you may not get more work off them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about tackiling the real issues.Addressing the poor wages,working conditions etc.

Employees are sick for a reason,usually the shit they have to put up with.

I work for one of the largest global employers worldwide and they have decided to take our bonus away from us,leaving the majority of us between £500 to £1000 worse off per month.

Not the guys in suits though,happily paying themselves huge bonuses per month.

It's simply broke a lot of workers who are constantly on the sick due to mental stress. The working class man's getting shafted in this country,that's the real problem.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"How about tackiling the real issues.Addressing the poor wages,working conditions etc.

Employees are sick for a reason,usually the shit they have to put up with.

I work for one of the largest global employers worldwide and they have decided to take our bonus away from us,leaving the majority of us between £500 to £1000 worse off per month.

Not the guys in suits though,happily paying themselves huge bonuses per month.

It's simply broke a lot of workers who are constantly on the sick due to mental stress. The working class man's getting shafted in this country,that's the real problem."

that seems harsh, have they stopped it or phased it out... a bonus is just that and people should live to their basis, although that is harder than just typing the words.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

basic salary*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about tackiling the real issues.Addressing the poor wages,working conditions etc.

Employees are sick for a reason,usually the shit they have to put up with.

I work for one of the largest global employers worldwide and they have decided to take our bonus away from us,leaving the majority of us between £500 to £1000 worse off per month.

Not the guys in suits though,happily paying themselves huge bonuses per month.

It's simply broke a lot of workers who are constantly on the sick due to mental stress. The working class man's getting shafted in this country,that's the real problem.

that seems harsh, have they stopped it or phased it out... a bonus is just that and people should live to their basis, although that is harder than just typing the words."

They phased it out over the period 3 months and replaced it with a new system that was impossible to achieve.

Union reps have told us that they basically want permanent employees with contracts out of the door,to be replaced with agency workers who will be on a minimum wage and have no rights !!

The wage doesn't fit,it really doesn't.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit"

A lot of companies now have some sort of punishment for being off sick, where I work there are disciplinaries are common for you illness and injuries. To add insult to injury, there is no sick pay or industrial injury pay.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

We'll you keep voting on govt that strip the unions of rights and powers this is what you get . No doubt the usual suspects will now come on union bashing saying they are all corrupt etc but what rights would we have if nobody had fought for them?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit

Agree it sounds harsh but at the other end of the scale you have the public sector, where in parts of it, staff receive very favourable sick pay which can result in some people using it as an extension their annual leave entitlement without any consequence to them. The impact is felt by their colleagues who pick up the extra work."

it used to be like that and the piss takers were out of order however its not that way any more, absence management is more strictly enforced now across the public sector..

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

im sure we've had this discussion before about the purpose and efficacy of these great unions.

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston


"Its work practices are highly questionable, employing many on zero hours and expecting turn up at the drop of a hat.

Such insecure employment increases I'll health and I'd prefer this company obliterated and replaced by an ethically motivated alternative. Its management are obvious vermin, the scum of the business world.

Decent working conditions should be an absolute minimum for all - this is a hugely profitable company that has chosen to be a bottom feeder. Avoid it, it's a blight on society."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It also sells absolute shite, and would only give you store credit and not your money back if you had a problem. Hope the new laws fuck his obscene profit margin up.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

Hmmmm this is interesting. In the last year I have had 0 days sick,the year before 3 weeks 2 days (due to a broken arm and cold), year before that 2 months due to a mental illness and collapsing

Don't get me wrong if you are genuinely sick then take time off. If you arnt then don't

Sickness is not something you can plan it is what it is and if u was warned over my sickness record I would question the warning

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby


"on tv last night workers in the dark ages, off sick a mark against you get so many and your sacked, there was a similar documentary on amazon, not allowed toilet breaks etc, someone told me years ago the bigger the company the bigger the shit

Having too many sick days I can understand. You want reliable staff with a good team attitude. The toilet break rule is a bit harsh and probably illegal."
The toilet break rule I heard once was one they used against staff In some job centres, this brought it Home to me how dragonian employers could be towards their staff During the recession and most likely Any other time, with this wave of new Immigrants comeing over here I wonder Where their fortunes lie certainly not At the end of a rainbow, come and join The crowd along with every other tom dick and harry..

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

This place is a few miles from Titz Towers and I know a few people who have been unlucky enough to work there, including family.

The consensus is that the employer treats the staff with zero dignity and seems determined to suck any pleasure out of doing a shift, simply regarding the workers as mobile energy units.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can someone not put him up tobe on undercover boss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can someone not put him up tobe on undercover boss "

Think he needs to visit one of the jyms he owns

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