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"More scaremongering by the Snowden fan boys." I'm not a fan boy | |||
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"Edward Snowden has been chatting again. He says that GCHQ can control your smartphone and in a clip from tonight's Panarama, they are named after smurfs Dreamy Smurf - Turns your phone on and off. Nosey Smurf - Can turn on your mic and listen to everything around you Tracker Smurf - can follow you. (Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 ) It's not really news. It's been common knowledge that the security services have had these capabilities for years. More scaremongering by the Snowden fan boys." The issue is no Warrent | |||
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"Edward Snowden has been chatting again. He says that GCHQ can control your smartphone and in a clip from tonight's Panarama, they are named after smurfs Dreamy Smurf - Turns your phone on and off. Nosey Smurf - Can turn on your mic and listen to everything around you Tracker Smurf - can follow you. (Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 ) It's not really news. It's been common knowledge that the security services have had these capabilities for years. More scaremongering by the Snowden fan boys. The issue is no Warrent" Oh I know that but if it stops buses exploding or tracks lost children then I'm cool with it.. | |||
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"Edward Snowden has been chatting again. He says that GCHQ can control your smartphone and in a clip from tonight's Panarama, they are named after smurfs Dreamy Smurf - Turns your phone on and off. Nosey Smurf - Can turn on your mic and listen to everything around you Tracker Smurf - can follow you. (Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 ) It's not really news. It's been common knowledge that the security services have had these capabilities for years. More scaremongering by the Snowden fan boys. The issue is no Warrent Oh I know that but if it stops buses exploding or tracks lost children then I'm cool with it.." | |||
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"Edward Snowden has been chatting again. He says that GCHQ can control your smartphone and in a clip from tonight's Panarama, they are named after smurfs Dreamy Smurf - Turns your phone on and off. Nosey Smurf - Can turn on your mic and listen to everything around you Tracker Smurf - can follow you. (Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 ) It's not really news. It's been common knowledge that the security services have had these capabilities for years. More scaremongering by the Snowden fan boys. The issue is no Warrent Oh I know that but if it stops buses exploding or tracks lost children then I'm cool with it.. " | |||
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"Edward Snowden has been chatting again. He says that GCHQ can control your smartphone and in a clip from tonight's Panarama, they are named after smurfs Dreamy Smurf - Turns your phone on and off. Nosey Smurf - Can turn on your mic and listen to everything around you Tracker Smurf - can follow you. (Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 ) It's not really news. It's been common knowledge that the security services have had these capabilities for years. More scaremongering by the Snowden fan boys." It's been posited they could but he has confirmed this and a lot of other details - at no cost to us all. | |||
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"Edward Snowden has been chatting again. He says that GCHQ can control your smartphone and in a clip from tonight's Panarama, they are named after smurfs Dreamy Smurf - Turns your phone on and off. Nosey Smurf - Can turn on your mic and listen to everything around you Tracker Smurf - can follow you. (Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 ) It's not really news. It's been common knowledge that the security services have had these capabilities for years. More scaremongering by the Snowden fan boys. The issue is no Warrent Oh I know that but if it stops buses exploding or tracks lost children then I'm cool with it.." and yes in a perfect world the state would only use any info that does or can protect the citizens.. however when we have an inquiry just starting into state surveillance of the parents of a son murdered by racists with police incompetence and racism part of the reason the killers walked free, and into the families of those killed through incompetence at Hillsborough and trade union officials and elected MP's etc etc does anyone really believe that they wont trawl for anything they can use which is not about keeping us safe but allows the state to break the law with impunity.. because they can.. | |||
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"I find it harder to believe that anyone would waste their time watching my cameras/listening to me. " they don't. unless you have something to hide. you have nothing to worry about. too much info to sort. but it scares the crap out of terrorists and if it makes there existence more difficult then we have to put up with it. | |||
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"Your a subject not a citizen. Sadly the state will always abuse its privilege given to it, those who wish to pretend they've never done no wrong or ever will, will always recite that line!. Me I do lots of things I don't want the state to know about!. And I also know the state watch me because I've requested my "file". It's mostly full off mundane stuff like Mr x meet Mr A they drove off in such and such a car, rendezvoused at a cafe where after three hours meet with a dozen other demonstraters, spent all afternoon at x location... Some would argue they've not got the man power to follow every demonstrater but then I've got a sneaky suspicion there rewarded for their work by certain companies that are being demonstrated against!" i care not what the definition is and whilst i am subject to the laws of the land i will never see myself as a subject of anyone.. | |||
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"There's obviously a huge privacy debate but I guess if I'm not breaking the law then they're not going to 'come after me'. If they want to track my activities on Fab good luck to them! I do always wonder if the finger print recognition thing on iPhones gets secretly sent elsewhere but I've travelled abroad and to enter some countries you need to be finger printed so I'm sure my print info is already widely available to be honest! " Your not breaking the law. As the law stands now. What about when certain activities are made illegal and they have your history of being involved in them. Just look at how pornographic material has been reclassified. Put in the methods if detection and surveillance, then change the legal goalposts. It's pure Orwell. | |||
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" unless you have something to hide. you have nothing to worry about." I wondered how long it would be before that old chestnut was rolled out lol | |||
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"There's obviously a huge privacy debate but I guess if I'm not breaking the law then they're not going to 'come after me'. If they want to track my activities on Fab good luck to them! I do always wonder if the finger print recognition thing on iPhones gets secretly sent elsewhere but I've travelled abroad and to enter some countries you need to be finger printed so I'm sure my print info is already widely available to be honest! Your not breaking the law. As the law stands now. What about when certain activities are made illegal and they have your history of being involved in them. Just look at how pornographic material has been reclassified. Put in the methods if detection and surveillance, then change the legal goalposts. It's pure Orwell." The applicable Law is that in force at the time of the alleged offence. If they suddenly made porn illegal they could not prosecute you retrospectively. They normally collect meta data at this time but can delve further if they see a need. Don't people put everything about their lives on Facepage or Twatter anyway? | |||
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"There's obviously a huge privacy debate but I guess if I'm not breaking the law then they're not going to 'come after me'. If they want to track my activities on Fab good luck to them! I do always wonder if the finger print recognition thing on iPhones gets secretly sent elsewhere but I've travelled abroad and to enter some countries you need to be finger printed so I'm sure my print info is already widely available to be honest! Your not breaking the law. As the law stands now. What about when certain activities are made illegal and they have your history of being involved in them. Just look at how pornographic material has been reclassified. Put in the methods if detection and surveillance, then change the legal goalposts. It's pure Orwell. The applicable Law is that in force at the time of the alleged offence. If they suddenly made porn illegal they could not prosecute you retrospectively. They normally collect meta data at this time but can delve further if they see a need. Don't people put everything about their lives on Facepage or Twatter anyway? " "aaaa, mr bergstein we can see you used to be a jew in 2012. off to the camps for you" "nudist camp?" "we'll, kind of, ye." | |||
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"There's obviously a huge privacy debate but I guess if I'm not breaking the law then they're not going to 'come after me'. If they want to track my activities on Fab good luck to them! I do always wonder if the finger print recognition thing on iPhones gets secretly sent elsewhere but I've travelled abroad and to enter some countries you need to be finger printed so I'm sure my print info is already widely available to be honest! Your not breaking the law. As the law stands now. What about when certain activities are made illegal and they have your history of being involved in them. Just look at how pornographic material has been reclassified. Put in the methods if detection and surveillance, then change the legal goalposts. It's pure Orwell. The applicable Law is that in force at the time of the alleged offence. If they suddenly made porn illegal they could not prosecute you retrospectively. They normally collect meta data at this time but can delve further if they see a need. Don't people put everything about their lives on Facepage or Twatter anyway? " Many of us don't use this form of social media, either because they can't be arsed with it or because they see how it can be misused. As for the porn law example, what about when the law that days you can't be prosecuted retrospectively gets changed? Oh that's right. It can never happen can it? | |||
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"There's obviously a huge privacy debate but I guess if I'm not breaking the law then they're not going to 'come after me'. If they want to track my activities on Fab good luck to them! I do always wonder if the finger print recognition thing on iPhones gets secretly sent elsewhere but I've travelled abroad and to enter some countries you need to be finger printed so I'm sure my print info is already widely available to be honest! " Hi Dan, Just curious - what countries do that when you enter ? | |||
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"There's obviously a huge privacy debate but I guess if I'm not breaking the law then they're not going to 'come after me'. If they want to track my activities on Fab good luck to them! I do always wonder if the finger print recognition thing on iPhones gets secretly sent elsewhere but I've travelled abroad and to enter some countries you need to be finger printed so I'm sure my print info is already widely available to be honest! Hi Dan, Just curious - what countries do that when you enter ?" Well the USA is the most prominent example, they take a face photo and finger and thumb print scans from both hands! | |||
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"There's obviously a huge privacy debate but I guess if I'm not breaking the law then they're not going to 'come after me'. If they want to track my activities on Fab good luck to them! I do always wonder if the finger print recognition thing on iPhones gets secretly sent elsewhere but I've travelled abroad and to enter some countries you need to be finger printed so I'm sure my print info is already widely available to be honest! Hi Dan, Just curious - what countries do that when you enter ? Well the USA is the most prominent example, they take a face photo and finger and thumb print scans from both hands! " Haven't been there for s few years , so didn't know that. Fanks | |||
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