FabSwingers.com forum: Fit and Healthy part 9

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Couldnt find one.. so hope its ok to create this one xx

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I think you're fit. Are you healthy?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Well I had serious problems today, fell in love with a pair of shorts, tried them on fitted round the legs and could do the button up but there was about an inch gap to do the zip up, not bad considering they where a size ten

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think you're fit. Are you healthy?

lol no.. and no

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"I think you're fit. Are you healthy?

lol no.. and no

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how's slimming world going?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"I think you're fit. Are you healthy?

lol no.. and no

Have you got that reeeallllyyyy sssslllooowww rrreeessspppooonnnsseee thing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think you're fit. Are you healthy?

lol no.. and no

how's slimming world going?"

finally getting the hang of it.. lost 12 n half lb over the last 3 weeks. on plan so far this week.. (my weigh day is Wed night)

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"I think you're fit. Are you healthy?

lol no.. and no

how's slimming world going?

finally getting the hang of it.. lost 12 n half lb over the last 3 weeks. on plan so far this week.. (my weigh day is Wed night) "
well that's great, I here the new plan is really good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to go the gym 3 to 4 times a week, its my main interest, my diet is currently, 3500kcal, 500g carbs and 220g protein daily, but on Saturdays and Sundays I rest abit from eating, but I still go way below maintenance to 1700kcal but still protein high

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

Ok, I'm back!! Been seriously slacking this last few months. Gotta shift a few kilos, drop some body fat and get back into the regular exercise again!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've now nearly lost all the weight I put back on over the summer, so almost back down to 3 stone loss this year. I'd like to shift those last few soon so I can start making a dent in the next 3 stone!

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE

No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already. "

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

I'm still on almost 3stone lost since April. I've not been going to the gym though, initially because of my leg injury and now because of Alby being ill. I'll get back into it once his meds take effect.

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI. "

I have to say it irks me when people say "oh you look great as you are". Well maybe, but my health suffers! And yeah when I get to my target i'll still be overweight too, just less so.

Oh one thing to add, I have swapped cancer sticks for a vape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've got to get my arse back in the gym & do some cardio, help shift the last 4 pounds to reach my target of losing a stone...

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

I have to say it irks me when people say "oh you look great as you are". Well maybe, but my health suffers! And yeah when I get to my target i'll still be overweight too, just less so.

Oh one thing to add, I have swapped cancer sticks for a vape. "

Yeah it annoys me too!

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"I've got to get my arse back in the gym & do some cardio, help shift the last 4 pounds to reach my target of losing a stone...

Ooh so close! You can do it x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm back in training and eating sensibly again (instead of making lazy, easy choices with food). I still have a few pounds to lose - but I'm doing this for a specific weight goal to help me jump a little bit higher.

I find it just as easy as anyone else to put on half a stone, but losing it is very difficult.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've got to get my arse back in the gym & do some cardio, help shift the last 4 pounds to reach my target of losing a stone...

Ooh so close! You can do it x "

It always the last few pounds that are the hardest. I'm not in any rush to lose tho & have a few weeks coming up where I can replace going out with the gym!

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI. "

BMI is bollocks. Arnie would be Obese on it. It takes no account of the complexities of the human form and is as simplistic a tool for measuring body composition as can be imagined.

Looking in the mirror is more accurate.

Ruby is not overweight enough as to cause any health issues. Losing another 3 stone is more about modern aesthetics than health considerations.

I want to lose another stone for similar reasons but it's very difficult once you start taking your body past its set weight. So I will just stay healthy and see what happens.

I lost 5 stone in the past and it has stayed off easily enough. Well done to all of you who have lost weight....keep it off.

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By *ittenandthepirateCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI. "

I wouldn't take too much notice of BMI. It completely discounts outside factors, so some of the best athletes would be considered extremely overweight by BMI alone as muscle is so dense. It doesn't tell you how healthy you are, which is more important than a height to weight ratio.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've now nearly lost all the weight I put back on over the summer, so almost back down to 3 stone loss this year. I'd like to shift those last few soon so I can start making a dent in the next 3 stone! "

Another 3 stone ruby! I know it's how WE feel about ourselves, but I think if you lost 3 more stone it would be too much. Your looking great at the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

This!

I take no notice of BMI

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm finding it really hard to lose 7. Lbs

when my puppy died I hate all the wrong foods as comfort food and put on all what I had lost.

Iv started the gym again and making healthier food choices.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI. "
couldn't agree more, your doing it for you and noone else.

I've decided on my own personal target, with the help of good friends. When I reach it I will still be 1/2stone over the NHS guidelines but I honestly don't want to go any lower, the last 2lb is only for vanity to say I'm in the next stone. But I can't find any reason to go lower.

If I listened to what people said who didn't know me I'd have stayed about 4 stone heavier than I am now

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Oh and I've still got 4lb to target, its bloody refusing to move but it will come off the total loss will be 11 and 1/2stone in exactly 2 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I need to weigh myself (ahhhhh) and strategize from there. As someone who used to suffer from an eating disorder I'm worried about getting back on the scales in case it triggers a mad downward spiral

also I do need to shift some lbs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh and I've still got 4lb to target, its bloody refusing to move but it will come off the total loss will be 11 and 1/2stone in exactly 2 years

..... 4lb ? ...now how could we burn that off you ... Couple of sets of squats.

Over my cock . ???( couldn't stop myself sorry) Xxxx seriously well done !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I join this thread? I've got a gym induction today which is quite exciting as I've never used a gym before. I'm not looking to lose any weight, I just want to be healthier.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I join this thread? I've got a gym induction today which is quite exciting as I've never used a gym before. I'm not looking to lose any weight, I just want to be healthier."

good luck! It's that first step which is the hardest, well done!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I join this thread? I've got a gym induction today which is quite exciting as I've never used a gym before. I'm not looking to lose any weight, I just want to be healthier.

good luck! It's that first step which is the hardest, well done! "

Thanks! I'm a bit nervous actually

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh and I've still got 4lb to target, its bloody refusing to move but it will come off the total loss will be 11 and 1/2stone in exactly 2 years

That's seriously impressive, well done you and you look fantastic on it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm finding it incredibly hard to gain weight at the moment. Doesn't matter what activity I take part in, what I eat or what I drink I can't seem to gain anything. It's actually quite frustrating at times...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I join this thread? I've got a gym induction today which is quite exciting as I've never used a gym before. I'm not looking to lose any weight, I just want to be healthier."

Morning nell, oh dead exciting ,

'I just want to be healthier' that blasted predictive text!!! It's ok nell . I'm sure we all read that 'i just want to be .. Within grabbing distance of all that Lycra clad muscle'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I join this thread? I've got a gym induction today which is quite exciting as I've never used a gym before. I'm not looking to lose any weight, I just want to be healthier.

Morning nell, oh dead exciting ,

'I just want to be healthier' that blasted predictive text!!! It's ok nell . I'm sure we all read that 'i just want to be .. Within grabbing distance of all that Lycra clad muscle'"

Eh! What did your predictive text come up with?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I join this thread? I've got a gym induction today which is quite exciting as I've never used a gym before. I'm not looking to lose any weight, I just want to be healthier.

Morning nell, oh dead exciting ,

'I just want to be healthier' that blasted predictive text!!! It's ok nell . I'm sure we all read that 'i just want to be .. Within grabbing distance of all that Lycra clad muscle'

Eh! What did your predictive text come up with?"

I have the worst predictive text, seem to be mentally connected to my mojo , and replaces words with complete and slightly inappropriate sentances

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

I do mostly agree but tell it to the NHS where BMI is still the be-all and end-all....

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

I do mostly agree but tell it to the NHS where BMI is still the be-all and end-all...."
for what reason are they using it, when my bmi was 56 I was told how fucking dangerous it was and if your bmi is high to start with yes, but I've found they couldn't care less what my bmi is as long as the weight is coming off, I know from my point of view they've been more interested in me getting fit and healthy and never once mentioned anything about my bmi as long as its been coming down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

I do mostly agree but tell it to the NHS where BMI is still the be-all and end-all....for what reason are they using it, when my bmi was 56 I was told how fucking dangerous it was and if your bmi is high to start with yes, but I've found they couldn't care less what my bmi is as long as the weight is coming off, I know from my point of view they've been more interested in me getting fit and healthy and never once mentioned anything about my bmi as long as its been coming down"

Not my experience unfortunately.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

Not my experience unfortunately. "
so have they told you they want you to have a perfect bmi and have they told you the reason(I don't mean you to tell me) but what I mean is are they actually telling you you need to be a certain bmi? I can't see the difference it would make if you had a bmi of 25 or a bmi of 30 as long as you where fit and healthy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

Not my experience unfortunately. so have they told you they want you to have a perfect bmi and have they told you the reason(I don't mean you to tell me) but what I mean is are they actually telling you you need to be a certain bmi? I can't see the difference it would make if you had a bmi of 25 or a bmi of 30 as long as you where fit and healthy

There are treatments which are withheld if your BMI is over 30.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

There are treatments which are withheld if your BMI is over 30. "
oh I was on the wrong lines I just thought they where telling you to get to a certain bmi for no reason, I can u derstand it then as they have to have some sort of guidelines, loads of people I know have had to lose weight to have operations same as things are withheld when your a smoker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

There are treatments which are withheld if your BMI is over 30. oh I was on the wrong lines I just thought they where telling you to get to a certain bmi for no reason, I can u derstand it then as they have to have some sort of guidelines, loads of people I know have had to lose weight to have operations same as things are withheld when your a smoker"

Yeah I understand it too, just wish it wasn't the only thing taken into consideration to determine whether you're healthy or not.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI.

Yeah I understand it too, just wish it wasn't the only thing taken into consideration to determine whether you're healthy or not. "
I have no idea what the treatment is bit if its something you need couldn't you try and state a case, get all evidence that your 100% healthy and put it to them. That's what is be Inc!inded to do, but then I'd just go private can do what you like then I didn't even have to give up smoking for my operation

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I do no exercise, eat like a pig, smoke, do other more illicit things...

The one thing I don't do much of is drink.

Still looking quite well preserved.

Probs rotting from the inside

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"I do no exercise, eat like a pig, smoke, do other more illicit things...

The one thing I don't do much of is drink.

Still looking quite well preserved.

Probs rotting from the inside

"
wondered what the smell was

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

I'm back in the swing of things now! Thank goodness! Lbs were creeping back on and sugary stuff was being consumed by the truckload!

Steaks, spinach, eggs, kale, sweet potato, porridge and chicken are all on the agenda for the rest of the week!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Lost 6lb last week which is good as my little trip to Yarmouth cost me 2.5lb!!

Am 12.5lb lighter than I was 7 weeks ago and dropped 2 points on my bmi (I know it's mainly bollocks fir body builders etc nut for people like me it's still a good tool).

Have started doing circuits at work again and believe it's the weights that are helping me shift it to be honest.

Hoping for my first stone next week

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

truly thrilled for you evie!

i will be chuffed with any kinda loss this week as i gained 3 lb last week. that took me by surprise as id genuinely been on plan and wanted a bigger loss so to get a gain was a killer.

still i didnt give up, been strict this week too. i will know tonight if i have gained lost or maintained. xx

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

"I'm back in the swing of things now! Thank goodness! Lbs were creeping back on and sugary stuff was being consumed by the truckload!

Steaks, spinach, eggs, kale, sweet potato, porridge and chicken are all on the agenda for the rest of the week! "

Mmm sounds yummy! If only I weren't a sugar addict. I do genuinely love all those foods!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With regards to bmi there was a study done using the England rugby team ....., every last man was obese??? It does as stated take into account build and body type among other things ...... I have lost 5 stone in the last 18 months and am now literally 3 pounds inside a healthy bmi. Firstly Due to some research done at uni ..... I couldn't actually make my ideal weight as my lean mass is about a stone or so over that ! Secondly I'm in the gym 5 days a week work in sport and eat very healthy so really I'm about where I need to be.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"With regards to bmi there was a study done using the England rugby team ....., every last man was obese??? It does as stated take into account build and body type among other things ...... I have lost 5 stone in the last 18 months and am now literally 3 pounds inside a healthy bmi. Firstly Due to some research done at uni ..... I couldn't actually make my ideal weight as my lean mass is about a stone or so over that ! Secondly I'm in the gym 5 days a week work in sport and eat very healthy so really I'm about where I need to be. "

For ultra fit muscle bound bodies I'll agree the bmi scale is slightly skewed however, for commonal garden variety fat people like me it's fairly accurate I'd say.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Im feeling really nervous about the scales tonight..

last week i tried so hard and gained 3 lb.. this week rather than go off the rails i stuck it out and again have been 100% on plan (Slimming world) if i get another gain i'll be truly devistated..

hurry up 6pm.. i just need to know either way..

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Im feeling really nervous about the scales tonight..

last week i tried so hard and gained 3 lb.. this week rather than go off the rails i stuck it out and again have been 100% on plan (Slimming world) if i get another gain i'll be truly devistated..

hurry up 6pm.. i just need to know either way..

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how long you been going slimming world now? Have you gained "for no reason" before, I don't have periods but periodically I used to gain, it worked out to be some kind of pattern formed.

If you bain this week make sure you right every single thing down and how it is cooked, it could be something really obvious that your doing/not doing that you can't see, didn't you say you had a pasty from Gregg's last week or was that someone else I can't remember?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My diet is rubbish but yet i think im in ok shape! You can eat what you like so long as you do enough fitness. Works for me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Im feeling really nervous about the scales tonight..

last week i tried so hard and gained 3 lb.. this week rather than go off the rails i stuck it out and again have been 100% on plan (Slimming world) if i get another gain i'll be truly devistated..

hurry up 6pm.. i just need to know either way..

how long you been going slimming world now? Have you gained "for no reason" before, I don't have periods but periodically I used to gain, it worked out to be some kind of pattern formed.

wasnt from Greggs but yeah i did have a pasty.. had that Tuesday and i weigh on a Wed night. Realistically i dont think a pasty would effect my weight so quickly (could be wrong) but the syns of it are 27 and im allowed 25 a day..

Ive looked back and feel it could have been water retention and like you said a 'star' week..

Did have another theory but not sure how logical it is

Either way ive continued with the plan and not binged on crap foods x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My diet is rubbish but yet i think im in ok shape! You can eat what you like so long as you do enough fitness. Works for me."

People are different.. but i guess i can see some logic to your theory :D

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Im feeling really nervous about the scales tonight..

last week i tried so hard and gained 3 lb.. this week rather than go off the rails i stuck it out and again have been 100% on plan (Slimming world) if i get another gain i'll be truly devistated..

hurry up 6pm.. i just need to know either way..

how long you been going slimming world now? Have you gained "for no reason" before, I don't have periods but periodically I used to gain, it worked out to be some kind of pattern formed.

Ive looked back and feel it could have been water retention and like you said a 'star' week..

Did have another theory but not sure how logical it is

Either way ive continued with the plan and not binged on crap foods x "
it wasn't a judgement call about the pasty, but did you write it down? Sometimes we genuinely don't know what passes our lips in a day, we might pick aa bit of cheese and think it's an ounce when it's two, on its own no problem but if we do little things like that all week it can soon add up.

I wrote and counted evefything, I used to get pissed off when people would say they had a takeWay and still lost a couple of lbs I had to work for all mine.

I can't pm you cause I'm old lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im feeling really nervous about the scales tonight..

last week i tried so hard and gained 3 lb.. this week rather than go off the rails i stuck it out and again have been 100% on plan (Slimming world) if i get another gain i'll be truly devistated..

hurry up 6pm.. i just need to know either way..

Fingers crossed for 6pm. My weight loss never ever went in a straight line, so I'd sometimes gain 2 then lose 4 the next week - it was never a steady thing and it still isn't now.

I'm sure at the SW class they'll be able to help you with strategies if you're still not getting the results you want, like doing a week of SP or the speed soups sometimes seemed to work well for people.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"My diet is rubbish but yet i think im in ok shape! You can eat what you like so long as you do enough fitness. Works for me."

Not really. You couldn't realistically binge eat every day if you wanted to and burn enough calories off to counteract it every day.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Im feeling really nervous about the scales tonight..

last week i tried so hard and gained 3 lb.. this week rather than go off the rails i stuck it out and again have been 100% on plan (Slimming world) if i get another gain i'll be truly devistated..

hurry up 6pm.. i just need to know either way..

how long you been going slimming world now? Have you gained "for no reason" before, I don't have periods but periodically I used to gain, it worked out to be some kind of pattern formed.

Ive looked back and feel it could have been water retention and like you said a 'star' week..

Did have another theory but not sure how logical it is

Either way ive continued with the plan and not binged on crap foods x "

I essentially followed slimming world last year when I lost the first 3 stone, I found tho that the weeks where I had a lot of pasta or spuds I wouldn't lose much or at all even tho they say you can have it unlimited and I only have small portions im not a big eater really. When I cut those and just ate lean meat, fish, eggs and fruit and veg the weight dropped off me. And I always saved my HEB for an alpen light bar in the evenings as my sweet treat x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

4 and a half down.. im well happy with that!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"4 and a half down.. im well happy with that! "
well there you go, a blip and your going to have a few more of those, take in mind what i said though.

but the best thing is you didnt go off the rails after a bad week

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 and a half down.. im well happy with that! "

Yay!

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

"4 and a half down.. im well happy with that! "

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"4 and a half down.. im well happy with that! well there you go, a blip and your going to have a few more of those, take in mind what i said though.

but the best thing is you didnt go off the rails after a bad week"

Exactly!! Well done cute xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I;ve been sober for 3 months and trying to eat better. Still cycling, still running and the condition is improving every week. Don;t think that I will quite be in shape to go sub 4 at Portsmouth marathon at Christmas but do think sub 3.45 is attainable at Brighton next spring. Time to stop playing at running and see where I can take it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

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over a year ago

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but) "

Warm ting

*eating

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating "
depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

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over a year ago

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you"

2 apples and a pear

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over a year ago

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear"

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends."
well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway

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over a year ago

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway"

Yes that did cross my mind.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway"

The 5 a day is meant to be different varieties though. Not the same stuff. So 5 apples wouldnt count etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 and a half down.. im well happy with that! "

Well done Cute, just keep going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway

The 5 a day is meant to be different varieties though. Not the same stuff. So 5 apples wouldnt count etc "

I'm not really fussed about the 5 a day thing, I'm concerned about, is it going to do me harm eating (as in the sugar) 4 apples a day?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 and a half down.. im well happy with that!

Well done Cute, just keep going

Well done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway

The 5 a day is meant to be different varieties though. Not the same stuff. So 5 apples wouldnt count etc

I'm not really fussed about the 5 a day thing, I'm concerned about, is it going to do me harm eating (as in the sugar) 4 apples a day? "

Well it will keep you 'regular' that's for sure

Overall I don't think it will harm you, space the intake out over the day whilst eating other foods.

Dental wise tho you may want to take a toothbrush to work & brush after eating re a higher sugar intake & corrosion.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway

The 5 a day is meant to be different varieties though. Not the same stuff. So 5 apples wouldnt count etc

I'm not really fussed about the 5 a day thing, I'm concerned about, is it going to do me harm eating (as in the sugar) 4 apples a day? "

Well it's natural sugar so much better than chocolate etc. I personally wouldn't eat that much fruit in a day as I try to keep my carbs low and try to eat more veg.

Just keep track of what you eat as lol that fruit adds up with calories and brush your teeth a lot lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Morning x is it too late to join in? Realised a few weeks ago that my weight has been creeping up so I've changed my approach and I've lost 6lbs in 3 weeks, looking to join a gym and start swimming next week but its hard to do it consistently with my personal commitments. I don't want to slide though

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Went to my first boxercise class last night. Didn't do much other than learn how to pit the wraps in and the basic moves but think I'll enjoy it when it gets going. Bought a set if wraps cos I like to be all the gear no idea lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway

The 5 a day is meant to be different varieties though. Not the same stuff. So 5 apples wouldnt count etc

I'm not really fussed about the 5 a day thing, I'm concerned about, is it going to do me harm eating (as in the sugar) 4 apples a day?

Well it will keep you 'regular' that's for sure

Overall I don't think it will harm you, space the intake out over the day whilst eating other foods.

Dental wise tho you may want to take a toothbrush to work & brush after eating re a higher sugar intake & corrosion. "

I hope so! I take after my mother for that

it's horrendous, sometimes a week!

any way moving on

I shall follow this advice, Thankyou

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway

The 5 a day is meant to be different varieties though. Not the same stuff. So 5 apples wouldnt count etc

I'm not really fussed about the 5 a day thing, I'm concerned about, is it going to do me harm eating (as in the sugar) 4 apples a day?

Well it's natural sugar so much better than chocolate etc. I personally wouldn't eat that much fruit in a day as I try to keep my carbs low and try to eat more veg.

Just keep track of what you eat as lol that fruit adds up with calories and brush your teeth a lot lol x "

It would be impossible for me to cut carbs. Carbs is in loads of things

are there not carbs in some vegetables?

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway

The 5 a day is meant to be different varieties though. Not the same stuff. So 5 apples wouldnt count etc

I'm not really fussed about the 5 a day thing, I'm concerned about, is it going to do me harm eating (as in the sugar) 4 apples a day?

Well it's natural sugar so much better than chocolate etc. I personally wouldn't eat that much fruit in a day as I try to keep my carbs low and try to eat more veg.

Just keep track of what you eat as lol that fruit adds up with calories and brush your teeth a lot lol x

It would be impossible for me to cut carbs. Carbs is in loads of things

are there not carbs in some vegetables? "

Indeed there is but things like spinach, kale, cabbage etc are much lower than carrots, peas and sweetcorn for example. I rarely eat bread, pasta or potato.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Iv not had chocolate for 2 days, but warm ting apples and pairs several times a day. Is earmting that much fruit good for me? (Thinking of the sugar. I know it's natural...but)

Warm ting

*eating depends how much you eat, too much of anything is bad for you

2 apples and a pear

No more than 4 pieces a day it depends.well your supposed to have at least 5 a day anyway

The 5 a day is meant to be different varieties though. Not the same stuff. So 5 apples wouldnt count etc

I'm not really fussed about the 5 a day thing, I'm concerned about, is it going to do me harm eating (as in the sugar) 4 apples a day?

Well it's natural sugar so much better than chocolate etc. I personally wouldn't eat that much fruit in a day as I try to keep my carbs low and try to eat more veg.

Just keep track of what you eat as lol that fruit adds up with calories and brush your teeth a lot lol x

It would be impossible for me to cut carbs. Carbs is in loads of things

are there not carbs in some vegetables?

Indeed there is but things like spinach, kale, cabbage etc are much lower than carrots, peas and sweetcorn for example. I rarely eat bread, pasta or potato. "

I have jacket potatoes an started eating Soudough bread, not every day though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let me change my avatar ,

Why are you all still on your diet it's autum , check out how quickly I have piled my ...."bulking wieght" back on !!! Lol

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Let me change my avatar ,

Why are you all still on your diet it's autum , check out how quickly I have piled my ...."bulking wieght" back on !!! Lol "

Lol. I'm still on mine because I managed to gain weight in the summer so am losing it again. No point carrying on being a pig all winter rhen having to be miserable even longer to get it back off! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let me change my avatar ,

Why are you all still on your diet it's autum , check out how quickly I have piled my ...."bulking wieght" back on !!! Lol

Lol. I'm still on mine because I managed to gain weight in the summer so am losing it again. No point carrying on being a pig all winter rhen having to be miserable even longer to get it back off! X"

That sounds like a long hard year, this is my wieght most of the time, the diet bit pre and during summer , when your sub maintenance by 500 odd is a...... Well , you know . Everything is heavy and hard work ....

The tag line , suns not out , doughnuts for lunch.

Just doesn't sync as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've just got back from the gym. I have a routine thingy typed up for me and everything!

I must just say one thing though: Ouch!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just got back from the gym. I have a routine thingy typed up for me and everything!

I must just say one thing though: Ouch!"

Lol a good 'ouch' though right.

Like tattoos or spankings

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just got back from the gym. I have a routine thingy typed up for me and everything!

I must just say one thing though: Ouch!

Lol a good 'ouch' though right.

Like tattoos or spankings

A good ouch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let me change my avatar ,

Why are you all still on your diet it's autum , check out how quickly I have piled my ...."bulking wieght" back on !!! Lol "

I am clean bulking at the minute. 3000-3500 calories a day. All protein and veg with only 3 very small portions of complex carbs. Hard going trying to eat 5 meals a day on the equivalent of about 1.5 chickens a day

Sick of eating but I have gained 2 kilos in 2 weeks.

Eat like a king train like a monster..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let me change my avatar ,

Why are you all still on your diet it's autum , check out how quickly I have piled my ...."bulking wieght" back on !!! Lol

Sick of eating but I have gained 2 kilos in 2 weeks.

Eat like a king train like a monster.."

2•5lb a week are good gains... Good good gains, I'll struggle to do that even if I allow half of it to go on as fat, !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let me change my avatar ,

Why are you all still on your diet it's autum , check out how quickly I have piled my ...."bulking wieght" back on !!! Lol

Sick of eating but I have gained 2 kilos in 2 weeks.

Eat like a king train like a monster..

2•5lb a week are good gains... Good good gains, I'll struggle to do that even if I allow half of it to go on as fat, !

Gym 4-5 days a week. Heavy...

2 hours ju jitsu/ thai boxing every weekend.

Mid morning and mid afternoon snacks of 3 chicken thighs and some quinoa.

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By *ool11Man
over a year ago

st annes

"No need for that much Ruby. Most want you already.

It's not really about other people though. And I at that point I will still be nearly a stone overweight according to BMI. "

BMI is flawed in every way possible. I was once very ill and dropped down to 15 stone, my ribs were showing through and to be frank I looked like a drug addict. And BMI put me at just under the line from overweight. I'm now back to being a fit and healthy endurance cyclist with a BMI that says I'm morbidly obese.

Judging by your pictures you are just fine, so don't over concern yourself about crap like that

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

i went and did circuits again today and manage to do proper sit ups for the first time ever!!! (and then weighted situps with and 8kg medicine ball, and then situps with medicine ball and a twist!!). I used to do little crunches before.

this might not mean much to most but i'm pretty proud of myself. The instructor commented on how much my fitness has come on in just the few weeks i have been going down there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i went and did circuits again today and manage to do proper sit ups for the first time ever!!! (and then weighted situps with and 8kg medicine ball, and then situps with medicine ball and a twist!!). I used to do little crunches before.

this might not mean much to most but i'm pretty proud of myself. The instructor commented on how much my fitness has come on in just the few weeks i have been going down there."

No no woop! From short crunches to full weighted and twists, is a huge improvement !! Seriously ; good work . I'm impressed, get those on an incline, and you earn your gym bunny badge, I'll make you one myself!

Well done!

8kg ball! Dude... Awesome ! Grr

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

I did deadlifts yesterday for the first time in forever. Today... Everything hurts!! Tomorrow is going to be worse. I can tell. They weren't even heavy only 30kg while I was practicing getting my form spot on and deciding wether I prefer conventional, sumo or Romanian.. Still can't decide.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

this might not mean much to most but i'm pretty proud of myself. The instructor commented on how much my fitness has come on in just the few weeks i have been going down there."
nice one Evie x

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I did deadlifts yesterday for the first time in forever. Today... Everything hurts!! Tomorrow is going to be worse. I can tell. They weren't even heavy only 30kg while I was practicing getting my form spot on and deciding wether I prefer conventional, sumo or Romanian.. Still can't decide. "

i did deadlifts today, and power cleans and squat presses and bicep curls but i did mine with a 2.5kg bar....gonna step it up next time i think

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

this might not mean much to most but i'm pretty proud of myself. The instructor commented on how much my fitness has come on in just the few weeks i have been going down there.

Well done!

8kg ball! Dude... Awesome ! Grr"

haha thanks

can i have a pink gym bunny badge please

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Romanian are really an accessory to "regular" deadlifts - since you start at the top. They are still a good excercise though.

I'm doing some hypertrophy programme to mix things up a bit whilst I'm bulking, which is a 4 day gym week. I'm gaining quite a lot of size, which is good, but I do get fed up of the volume.

When I have finished this programme, I'm going to do 5/3/1 and get back to doing what I like best!

I wanna be able to deadlift 200KG+ by Christmas, and squat at least 160, Bench I'm crap at (Rugby shoulder), but I want at least 4 plates.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

i did deadlifts today, and power cleans and squat presses and bicep curls but i did mine with a 2.5kg bar....gonna step it up next time i think

I started with weight like that last September. Work your way up slowly and make sure your form is spot on or you'll do yourself an injury. I'll choose weight training over cardio any day and it burns as many calories but changed the shape of my body so much. X

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

Romanian are really an accessory to "regular" deadlifts - since you start at the top. They are still a good excercise though.

I'm doing some hypertrophy programme to mix things up a bit whilst I'm bulking, which is a 4 day gym week. I'm gaining quite a lot of size, which is good, but I do get fed up of the volume.

When I have finished this programme, I'm going to do 5/3/1 and get back to doing what I like best!

I wanna be able to deadlift 200KG+ by Christmas, and squat at least 160, Bench I'm crap at (Rugby shoulder), but I want at least 4 plates. "

Yeah I suppose so. Blimey 200kg is more than 3 of me! Lol. I struggle with my grip strength or I would be able to lift a lot more I think. Ive got strong legs but really crappy weak hands.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Romanian are really an accessory to "regular" deadlifts - since you start at the top. They are still a good excercise though.

I'm doing some hypertrophy programme to mix things up a bit whilst I'm bulking, which is a 4 day gym week. I'm gaining quite a lot of size, which is good, but I do get fed up of the volume.

When I have finished this programme, I'm going to do 5/3/1 and get back to doing what I like best!

I wanna be able to deadlift 200KG+ by Christmas, and squat at least 160, Bench I'm crap at (Rugby shoulder), but I want at least 4 plates.

Yeah I suppose so. Blimey 200kg is more than 3 of me! Lol. I struggle with my grip strength or I would be able to lift a lot more I think. Ive got strong legs but really crappy weak hands. "

I'm actually not far off, which isn't bad for an 80KG bloke, and why I put the "+". I really want my squat to catch up too. My grip strength is starting to fail when I try and do Romanians for reps, and its pissing me off. I could get straps, but thats not helping! I may start specifically trying to train my grip, but for 1 rep stuff, chalk seems to work fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Legs night tonight...walking like bambi. Off squats at the minute due to a niggling back injury...

15 sets of legpress 250kg for 20

15 sets of calf raise 250kg for 30

Lungewalks up and down the gym with 20kg dumbbells

Drop sets on leg extension/thigh curl x 3

Food....need food.

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

Did my quickest 10k for nearly a year on sunday - just over 40 minutes. Now going to up my mileage to prepare for my first marathon next April.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did my quickest 10k for nearly a year on sunday - just over 40 minutes. Now going to up my mileage to prepare for my first marathon next April. "

Which marathon you doing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Start back at the gym tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just downloaded a calorie counter app....erm. I am eating a bit more than I thought.

4200 calories a day...shit.

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

3 stone is within my grasp...hopefully I can get that this next weigh day!

16 days off the cigs now too.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

First week back on it.. Eaten loads but good nutrient dense foods and lean protein.. Dropped 2.2kg (5lbs) well chuffed with that!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

On top of my first sit up success I also managed my first proper non girly push ups yesterday lol

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"On top of my first sit up success I also managed my first proper non girly push ups yesterday lol "

Well done! My aim over the next few months is to increase my upper body strength and eventually be able to do pull ups!! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Weigh day today. I'm hoping Iv lost at least a pound!

Back to the gym this week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"First week back on it.. Eaten loads but good nutrient dense foods and lean protein.. Dropped 2.2kg (5lbs) well chuffed with that!

That's impressive, well done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just reading through the thread. Please don't use cons like slimming world and weight watchers. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, their aim is to get you to lose weight without teaching you about the right types of food to eat, then you leave them but cos you've not been taught how to eat properly you most likely put the weight back on and have to go back to them again to lose it. Absolute con. I know it works for the odd person here and there but it's nothing you can't do with myfitnesspal and some online research.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Weigh day today. I'm hoping Iv lost at least a pound!

Back to the gym this week. "

You can lose multiple pounds in your sleep, you weighing a pound less than you did say a week ago doesn't necessarily mean anything. I've woken up multiple pounds lighter before.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Legs night tonight...walking like bambi. Off squats at the minute due to a niggling back injury...

15 sets of legpress 250kg for 20

15 sets of calf raise 250kg for 30

Lungewalks up and down the gym with 20kg dumbbells

Drop sets on leg extension/thigh curl x 3

Food....need food."

15 sets? Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't been on one of these threads in ages, I'm hovering around the same weight at the moment after having a bit of a bad month or two I got back down to 2 stone 4lb loss I was originally at but now its seeming a lot harder to get the weight off, saying that I've noticed a lot recently that whilst the number on the scales isn't dropping, my body shape is still changing in a good way, which is good enough for me!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I gained 2lb which was brilliant as lady problems and I usually gain more, so will come back off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Weigh day today. I'm hoping Iv lost at least a pound!

Back to the gym this week.

You can lose multiple pounds in your sleep, you weighing a pound less than you did say a week ago doesn't necessarily mean anything. I've woken up multiple pounds lighter before. "

I don't want to put anymore on! That's my goal

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Just reading through the thread. Please don't use cons like slimming world and weight watchers. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, their aim is to get you to lose weight without teaching you about the right types of food to eat, then you leave them but cos you've not been taught how to eat properly you most likely put the weight back on and have to go back to them again to lose it. Absolute con. I know it works for the odd person here and there but it's nothing you can't do with myfitnesspal and some online research. "
many people have had great success with these weight loss plans some will succeed and some won't, I don't think it's fair you telling people not to use medically recognised weight loss plans when there is a lot of success

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over a year ago

Iv stayed the same.

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over a year ago

"Legs night tonight...walking like bambi. Off squats at the minute due to a niggling back injury...

15 sets of legpress 250kg for 20

15 sets of calf raise 250kg for 30

Lungewalks up and down the gym with 20kg dumbbells

Drop sets on leg extension/thigh curl x 3

Food....need food.

15 sets? Why?"

Bored...shits and giggles...I like to smash my body until it doesnt work...all 3 apply

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My ex used to drink a half pint of prune juice the night before weigh in...

The fact she would have cake straight after every ww meeting was not talked about though

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over a year ago

"3 stone is within my grasp...hopefully I can get that this next weigh day!

16 days off the cigs now too. "

Re: off the cigs, fantastic, I'm 4 months off them, and that with 150 miles a week cycling, never felt better

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over a year ago

Not according to my nutritionist.... Its all about retraining your habits... I have to submit my tracker for ww to my nutritionist each week... For me it's not often what I eat but when and portion size. I also suffer with a thyroid issue and take steroids medically...

I like ww mostly for the social interaction and the support of tht other members. My current group has very few losing members... As most are there as gold members... ( ie they don't pay as long as they are maintaining )

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Yes, you're right,encouraging you to eat low gi and low fat foods is complete nonsense not backed up by any evidence or research. Telling you not to deny yourself anything but limiting things like chocolate and alcohol as treats is completely bizarre and flies in the face if any good nutritionists advice.

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over a year ago

I just dont eat processed food. I only cook with butter or olive oil. I limit my complex carbs to very small portions of either quinoa or pasta and I eat plenty of fruit veg and salad.

I am lucky I enjoy clean healthy food and I dont crave sweet stuff, but I certainly dont deny myself anything.

I do eat a LOT of protein though.

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over a year ago

"Just reading through the thread. Please don't use cons like slimming world and weight watchers. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, their aim is to get you to lose weight without teaching you about the right types of food to eat, then you leave them but cos you've not been taught how to eat properly you most likely put the weight back on and have to go back to them again to lose it. Absolute con. I know it works for the odd person here and there but it's nothing you can't do with myfitnesspal and some online research. many people have had great success with these weight loss plans some will succeed and some won't, I don't think it's fair you telling people not to use medically recognised weight loss plans when there is a lot of success"

I think it's very fair to suggest people research things themselves instead of throwing money at an overpriced system which works on mythical bullshit such as "syns" etc. Here's a weight loss plan that works - eat at a calorific defecit and exercise regularly. Viola. You've began losing weight.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I just dont eat processed food. I only cook with butter or olive oil. I limit my complex carbs to very small portions of either quinoa or pasta and I eat plenty of fruit veg and salad.

I am lucky I enjoy clean healthy food and I dont crave sweet stuff, but I certainly dont deny myself anything.

I do eat a LOT of protein though.

Other than the butter/oil that's essentially what slimming world does but it also has support and encouragement that some people find helpful. If you're able to do it yourself that's great but some can't, some need the positive stroking you get from a group

Things like pasta etc are unlimited however you have the freedom to do what you want to. I personally limit my carbs as they don't agree with my diabetes and insulin resistance so I don't lose weight if I eat them in unlimited amounts. Slimming world gives me enough choice to be able to do this.

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over a year ago

I wonder tho & this is mine & my friends experience as well as countless other women I have encountered at classes ~ Why is it when you stop these plans do you end up putting on MORE weight than you originally started with?

Are there any nutritionists out there that can explain this or is just a circle of dieting where we didn't really learn to change our food choices?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Just reading through the thread. Please don't use cons like slimming world and weight watchers. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, their aim is to get you to lose weight without teaching you about the right types of food to eat, then you leave them but cos you've not been taught how to eat properly you most likely put the weight back on and have to go back to them again to lose it. Absolute con. I know it works for the odd person here and there but it's nothing you can't do with myfitnesspal and some online research. many people have had great success with these weight loss plans some will succeed and some won't, I don't think it's fair you telling people not to use medically recognised weight loss plans when there is a lot of success

I could eat a calorific deficit but eat all carbs and I guarantee you I won't lose weight. I've done it, I know. The human body is not a one size fits all machine.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Are there any nutritionists out there that can explain this or is just a circle of dieting where we didn't really learn to change our food choices?"

Because you fall back into bad habits, eating all the wrong things. They don't claim to deal with the psychology behind your eating habits. I have extremely poor relationships with food but there is no provision to deal with those unless I pay for private counselling.

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over a year ago

"Just reading through the thread. Please don't use cons like slimming world and weight watchers. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, their aim is to get you to lose weight without teaching you about the right types of food to eat, then you leave them but cos you've not been taught how to eat properly you most likely put the weight back on and have to go back to them again to lose it. Absolute con. I know it works for the odd person here and there but it's nothing you can't do with myfitnesspal and some online research. many people have had great success with these weight loss plans some will succeed and some won't, I don't think it's fair you telling people not to use medically recognised weight loss plans when there is a lot of success

I could eat a calorific deficit but eat all carbs and I guarantee you I won't lose weight. I've done it, I know. The human body is not a one size fits all machine. "

I eat alot of carbs and my diet is crap, my theory is if you work hard in the gym you can eat what you like but thats like running for 1 hour and a half then spinning strught away for 1and half weight on tuesday HIIT circuit wednesday weight thursday run friday

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Just reading through the thread. Please don't use cons like slimming world and weight watchers. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, their aim is to get you to lose weight without teaching you about the right types of food to eat, then you leave them but cos you've not been taught how to eat properly you most likely put the weight back on and have to go back to them again to lose it. Absolute con. I know it works for the odd person here and there but it's nothing you can't do with myfitnesspal and some online research. many people have had great success with these weight loss plans some will succeed and some won't, I don't think it's fair you telling people not to use medically recognised weight loss plans when there is a lot of success

I could eat a calorific deficit but eat all carbs and I guarantee you I won't lose weight. I've done it, I know. The human body is not a one size fits all machine.

It's great that your body can cope with all those carbs but mine can't. Believe me I have researched this. I am by no means sedentary these days, of for a run tonight as it happens.

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over a year ago

"Just reading through the thread. Please don't use cons like slimming world and weight watchers. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, their aim is to get you to lose weight without teaching you about the right types of food to eat, then you leave them but cos you've not been taught how to eat properly you most likely put the weight back on and have to go back to them again to lose it. Absolute con. I know it works for the odd person here and there but it's nothing you can't do with myfitnesspal and some online research. many people have had great success with these weight loss plans some will succeed and some won't, I don't think it's fair you telling people not to use medically recognised weight loss plans when there is a lot of success

I could eat a calorific deficit but eat all carbs and I guarantee you I won't lose weight. I've done it, I know. The human body is not a one size fits all machine. "

I kinda assumed people would know not to eat a purely carbohydrate-based diet because that would be a stupid thing to do.

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over a year ago

Are there any nutritionists out there that can explain this or is just a circle of dieting where we didn't really learn to change our food choices?"

The human body likes homeostasis and will vigorously resist any drastic changes to it, which is why short term diets will never work as it will always try and bounce back to its original size. That coupled with your return to previous eating habits produces extra weight gain.

The only way is to train first your brain into new habits that can be maintained. Your body will follow

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over a year ago

"Oh and I've still got 4lb to target, its bloody refusing to move but it will come off the total loss will be 11 and 1/2stone in exactly 2 years

Wow that's amazing. I lost 3 which was hard enough. Go you

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Oh and I've still got 4lb to target, its bloody refusing to move but it will come off the total loss will be 11 and 1/2stone in exactly 2 years

Wow that's amazing. I lost 3 which was hard enough. Go you

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thanks, last few lbs are being a bugger lol

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over a year ago

I partly agree! I do think the key to longterm weight loss is lifestyle changes rather than diets. 'Clean' eating worked well for me. Also lowering my carb and sugar intake. Although I'm well aware that what worked for me might not work for everyone.

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over a year ago

Are there any nutritionists out there that can explain this or is just a circle of dieting where we didn't really learn to change our food choices?

The only way is to train first your brain into new habits that can be maintained. Your body will follow"

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over a year ago

"Just reading through the thread. Please don't use cons like slimming world and weight watchers. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, their aim is to get you to lose weight without teaching you about the right types of food to eat, then you leave them but cos you've not been taught how to eat properly you most likely put the weight back on and have to go back to them again to lose it. Absolute con. I know it works for the odd person here and there but it's nothing you can't do with myfitnesspal and some online research. many people have had great success with these weight loss plans some will succeed and some won't, I don't think it's fair you telling people not to use medically recognised weight loss plans when there is a lot of success

I could eat a calorific deficit but eat all carbs and I guarantee you I won't lose weight. I've done it, I know. The human body is not a one size fits all machine.

It's great that your body can cope with all those carbs but mine can't. Believe me I have researched this. I am by no means sedentary these days, of for a run tonight as it happens. "

Hmm ive never researched it too be fair, i just burn more calories than what i take works for me enjoy your run!! X

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Just reading through the thread. Please don't use cons like slimming world and weight watchers. They don't teach you how to eat healthily, their aim is to get you to lose weight without teaching you about the right types of food to eat, then you leave them but cos you've not been taught how to eat properly you most likely put the weight back on and have to go back to them again to lose it. Absolute con. I know it works for the odd person here and there but it's nothing you can't do with myfitnesspal and some online research. many people have had great success with these weight loss plans some will succeed and some won't, I don't think it's fair you telling people not to use medically recognised weight loss plans when there is a lot of success

I could eat a calorific deficit but eat all carbs and I guarantee you I won't lose weight. I've done it, I know. The human body is not a one size fits all machine.

I kinda assumed people would know not to eat a purely carbohydrate-based diet because that would be a stupid thing to do. "

My point was that just looking at a calorific deficit is not enough. The saying should not be eat LESS move more, it should be eat right move more. Kinda assumed that was implicit but hey ho.

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over a year ago

I was giving basic weight loss advice for a newbie, obviously you can break it down I a multitude of ways, sorting your carbs protein fats etc out. But yeah, I probably should've been more specific, I was just pointing out how simple it is to start with. Much better than paying someone to tell you what you can and can't eat.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"I was giving basic weight loss advice for a newbie, obviously you can break it down I a multitude of ways, sorting your carbs protein fats etc out. But yeah, I probably should've been more specific, I was just pointing out how simple it is to start with. Much better than paying someone to tell you what you can and can't eat."
how much weight have you lost

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Anyway, this wasn't an I know more than you about nutrition thread, it was one to celebrate the achievements of those trying to get fitter and healthier.

On that note. Lost 3lb this week taking me to over a stone loss in 9 weeks...I'm happy with that.

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over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Anyway, this wasn't an I know more than you about nutrition thread, it was one to celebrate the achievements of those trying to get fitter and healthier.

On that note. Lost 3lb this week taking me to over a stone loss in 9 weeks...I'm happy with that. "
well done Evie, works doesn't it

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over a year ago

Are there any nutritionists out there that can explain this or is just a circle of dieting where we didn't really learn to change our food choices?

The only way is to train first your brain into new habits that can be maintained. Your body will follow"

Thank you, that makes sense to me.

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over a year ago

I hit about 15 stone at my heaviest in terms of just being fat. Lost 2.5 stone and then built myself up a bit leaner (I'm not saying I'm lean, far from it atm). Currently about 14.5 stone but obviously a fair bit more muscle and less chub.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"I just dont eat processed food. I only cook with butter or olive oil. I limit my complex carbs to very small portions of either quinoa or pasta and I eat plenty of fruit veg and salad.

I am lucky I enjoy clean healthy food and I dont crave sweet stuff, but I certainly dont deny myself anything.

I do eat a LOT of protein though.

I do this. A year ago I totally changed my eating habits and feel much better for it! Sadly I have a very sweet tooth. So I rarely even treat myself to a small piece of choccy or it spirals well out of control and then im on a mission to eat the biscuits and sweets within a ten mile radius! X

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over a year ago

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

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over a year ago

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical"

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over a year ago

On top of that they often end up with the skinny fat look too due to the large amount of high GI carbs they consume. To say I despise these companies would be an understatement. Google is your friend.

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over a year ago

I enjoy ww. I know exactly why I put it back on again after successfully losing and maintaining for many years... Has nothing to do with it not working... But my relationship with food.

For me my naturally competitive nature helps me. I never want to be the member that put on... And I like to find the best meal options for my points.

I mostly eat lean meat, fish And lots of veg and fruit. I have some fat and oils.. And eat a good mix of dairy products and I include carbs. I eat those foods that help me stay full.

They used to be diets... Now they are all about changing habits and making choices ...

And I spend less on weightwatchers than I do on one McDonald's.... So it's not really costing me much

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. "
good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

you dont have a right to tell someone not to do something. no i havent lost weight through going to either of those clubs ive done it my way, but my only advice for anyone to succeed is to find the weightloss plan that suits you as an individual

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over a year ago

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

I agree. This is the 9th thread and without exception, and unlike much of the forum the posts are always supportive, no belittling, no bitching, just positivity and support.

To just post a sneering comment at 2 diets that many people use seems inappropriate and somewhat spiteful when the criticism seems based more on cynicism than anything constructive

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over a year ago

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

How is saying that people should learn how to eat a mixed balanced diet instead of being told "oh yeah this is 3 syns you can eat 3 of these a day or as many 1 syn foods as you like" (substitute syns for WW points, whatever, I don't know the measurements) instead of finding out what food contains what and how much of each you should roughly eat a day a negative thing? Not to mention these companies flog their own food off, often reducing the fat but increasing the carbs (often sugary) so they can boldly display 'low fat meal!' with the poor unsuspecting victim not knowing that those carbs will sugar and then turn into fat unless they burn them off ASAP. The reason they don't know this is because they haven't been taught what is in food and how it affects their body because they are instead focused on points and syns and shite like that - as WW and Slimming World encourage.

As for great confidence boosters, ha, that's a hoot. The whole weigh in idea is funny considering you can fluctuate between losing and holding a relatively large amount of pounds in a small amount of hours. Plenty on here will have weighed themselves at night, gone to bed and woken up 5 pounds lighter. Stupid idea and surely it's not positive for the person who has lost the least amount of weight? You're not meant to be competing against people, it's yourself you should be competing against - what you see in the mirror should be your motivation. If you can't look at yourself and think "yeah I wanna change this, I wanna be more fit and healthy" then I dunno what to say.

Doctors - again, ha. The Government's food and nutrition gang recommend not straying far above 55g protein per day (which is nothing for a bloke) and also say carbs should be half of your daily diet which for at least one third of body types (Endomorphs such as myself with below average metabolism) would make us pretty damn chubby. So you'll forgive me for not lauding Weightwatchers for being Government approved when they categorise things as "points" rather than what they actually are; protein, carbs, carbs which sugar, fats (won't go into the different types), sodium etc. I'm shocked tbh, if that's true it shows how laughably poor our nutrition system is. No wonder there are so many overweight people around.

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over a year ago

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

I agree. This is the 9th thread and without exception, and unlike much of the forum the posts are always supportive, no belittling, no bitching, just positivity and support.

To just post a sneering comment at 2 diets that many people use seems inappropriate and somewhat spiteful when the criticism seems based more on cynicism than anything constructive "

Yeah mate well done, instead of replying directly to my post and going through it point by point, instead post one of your own sneering sideswipe comments which doesn't go into any nutritional type of detail. Great job buddy. I've explained why I'm cynical about these companies - you seem unable to take on board different points of view and instead seem to take it personally which is odd. I'm very constructive with my advice when it comes to fitness and dieting - I'm not qualified or anything but I've had plenty of people ask for help with regards to eating, training etc. and i always go above and beyond to assist, just like I would if someone in this thread wanted help. The discussion in this thread mentioned companies like WW frequently and I joined in. Sorry if you don't like it - kinda seems like more of a 'you' problem though.

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over a year ago

Give "Weightwatchers and Slimming World: The Ugly Truth" a Google. A decent summary of what I'm trying to get at.

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over a year ago

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

I agree. This is the 9th thread and without exception, and unlike much of the forum the posts are always supportive, no belittling, no bitching, just positivity and support.

To just post a sneering comment at 2 diets that many people use seems inappropriate and somewhat spiteful when the criticism seems based more on cynicism than anything constructive

I think from the responses above it;s not just me that took exception to the posts. You seem to have read a lot in to what I haven;t posted and assumed a lot. The reality is that to a degree at least I share your cynicism, all I;ve said is that I don;t think that a supportive thread is the place to share.

As for support, re-read the first post you made. There was non. You just dismissed people following those diets

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

You're right when you say people should use what works for them. If they have to resort to these companies, ok that's fine, but I hope they know they could've done it whilst learning about nutrition and how food affects their body too. The amount of people who work with me who go to these places and make no progress is hurtful. "
well you just carry on belittling people, by the way what are your qualifications in nutrition and diet management again, also now many people have you helped to lose weight, I'd like to see some evidence where putting a damper on people who have got themselves motivated to do something about it helps.

I don't think loosing 2 1/2 stone qualifes you to tell people with serious weight issues what they should and shouldn't be doing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Anyway, this wasn't an I know more than you about nutrition thread, it was one to celebrate the achievements of those trying to get fitter and healthier.

On that note. Lost 3lb this week taking me to over a stone loss in 9 weeks...I'm happy with that. "

you kept that quiet! well done xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Give "Weightwatchers and Slimming World: The Ugly Truth" a Google. A decent summary of what I'm trying to get at."

But what your not understanding is that both recently changed a lot. When I am looking at how food is pointed I have to look at fibre, protien, carbs, basically all of it... I am well aware that its not just calories or one thing.

I don't know much about the new slimming world plan but neither label themselves as diet... They are healthy eating plans and to.encourage lifestyle changes.

My nutritionist is very happy with what I'm eating... It works for lots of people so don't really get what the issue is...

And there are no sins.. I could have a donut if I wanted too... But I'd rather make myself something else.... But that's the same with anything.... It's about making choices...

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over a year ago

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

You're right when you say people should use what works for them. If they have to resort to these companies, ok that's fine, but I hope they know they could've done it whilst learning about nutrition and how food affects their body too. The amount of people who work with me who go to these places and make no progress is hurtful. well you just carry on belittling people, by the way what are your qualifications in nutrition and diet management again, also now many people have you helped to lose weight, I'd like to see some evidence where putting a damper on people who have got themselves motivated to do something about it helps.

I don't think loosing 2 1/2 stone qualifes you to tell people with serious weight issues what they should and shouldn't be doing"

I don't belittle people, I help people who ask me for advice. Loads of people have asked me. Some take my advice, some don't. I don't have any qualifications, everything I've learnt is self taught. I'm not in great shape but I'll still assist when people ask. I'll repeat for the third time - if you want to use WW or SW then use them, but know that they just want your cash and they don't give two shits whether you actually lose weight or not, in fact for them to get the most profit they can its best for them to get people to keep losing weight then putting it all back on again as they very frequently do shortly after they leave because then they'll be back because "Weightwatchers got me to lose 2 stone last time! I can do it again". It's like when you go into Ketosis and then go back to eating loads of carbs straight away. You're not actually taught how to eat and what is in your food.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

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"Anyway, this wasn't an I know more than you about nutrition thread, it was one to celebrate the achievements of those trying to get fitter and healthier.

On that note. Lost 3lb this week taking me to over a stone loss in 9 weeks...I'm happy with that.

you kept that quiet! well done xx "

I don't like to blow my own hahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Give "Weightwatchers and Slimming World: The Ugly Truth" a Google. A decent summary of what I'm trying to get at.

I don't know much about the new slimming world plan but neither label themselves as diet... They are healthy eating plans and to.encourage lifestyle changes.

My nutritionist is very happy with what I'm eating... It works for lots of people so don't really get what the issue is...

And there are no sins.. I could have a donut if I wanted too... But I'd rather make myself something else.... But that's the same with anything.... It's about making choices... "

I wasn't aware that they'd recently changed. I'm glad it has got you to look more closely at what you eat. That's how it should be - I mean, you shouldn't have to anally track macros to stay in decent shape but at least have an idea what's in that chicken breast, what's in that jacket potato, what's in that lasagne etc.

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over a year ago

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

I agree. This is the 9th thread and without exception, and unlike much of the forum the posts are always supportive, no belittling, no bitching, just positivity and support.

To just post a sneering comment at 2 diets that many people use seems inappropriate and somewhat spiteful when the criticism seems based more on cynicism than anything constructive

Hmm, you're probably right. Sorry, this is a passionate issue for me, I've seen so many failure stories and they've no doubt affected my attitude towards these places. Of course, people trying to lose weight when they've overweight is a positive thing and I wouldn't discourage that, I just think there are better ways than others to go about it.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

You're right when you say people should use what works for them. If they have to resort to these companies, ok that's fine, but I hope they know they could've done it whilst learning about nutrition and how food affects their body too. The amount of people who work with me who go to these places and make no progress is hurtful. well you just carry on belittling people, by the way what are your qualifications in nutrition and diet management again, also now many people have you helped to lose weight, I'd like to see some evidence where putting a damper on people who have got themselves motivated to do something about it helps.

I don't think loosing 2 1/2 stone qualifes you to tell people with serious weight issues what they should and shouldn't be doing

I didn't say that losing 2.5 stone meant I was some sort of all knowing God. Somebody asked me how much weight i previously lost and I told them. I know how to lose weight and it would've worked whether I was 15 stone or 23 stone. "
nobody asked your advice you jumped in all guns blazing and also sems now that actually don't know anything about the new sw and ww plans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Atmosphere getting a little heavy in here.. (oh shit, pun completely unintended)

Cake anyone?

Either that or I have a batch of lemon and tarragon chicken thighs...very healthy option...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't belittle people, "

Are you sure about that?

"I kinda assumed people would know not to eat a purely carbohydrate-based diet because that would be a stupid thing to do. "

"You can lose multiple pounds in your sleep, you weighing a pound less than you did say a week ago doesn't necessarily mean anything. I've woken up multiple pounds lighter before. "

They're not exactly supportive are they?

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over a year ago

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

You're right when you say people should use what works for them. If they have to resort to these companies, ok that's fine, but I hope they know they could've done it whilst learning about nutrition and how food affects their body too. The amount of people who work with me who go to these places and make no progress is hurtful. well you just carry on belittling people, by the way what are your qualifications in nutrition and diet management again, also now many people have you helped to lose weight, I'd like to see some evidence where putting a damper on people who have got themselves motivated to do something about it helps.

I don't think loosing 2 1/2 stone qualifes you to tell people with serious weight issues what they should and shouldn't be doing

I didn't say that losing 2.5 stone meant I was some sort of all knowing God. Somebody asked me how much weight i previously lost and I told them. I know how to lose weight and it would've worked whether I was 15 stone or 23 stone. nobody asked your advice you jumped in all guns blazing and also sems now that actually don't know anything about the new sw and ww plans"

I don't. I was going off the Weightwatchers points for WW and the syns method for SW. Maybe you could inform me how they've changed and how the new systems work?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I'll be honest it didn't read like advice. Oy just sounded unnecessarily critical

If that's how you want to take it, that's fine, though I'd call it necessarily critical. I'm a critical person and I dislike seeing people being taken advantage of by these companies. These are often desperate people who will hand over their money weekly or monthly or whatever it is in and in return you're not even taught how to eat properly. It's farcical. Of course it works for *some* people but I've seen plenty put all that weight back on and then say "I'm going back to weightwatchers next week to lose all that weight again". Winds me up. I feel sorry for them. good for you, this was a positive thread till you popped along, many people have weight problems im not belittling your weight loss but many have stones and stones to lose, they may have tried every diet/weightloss plan there is. plenty of people succeed ive seen the evidence and plenty dont, but slimming clubs are not just about weight loss its being amongst other people sharing your issues, great to socialize, great confidence boosters.

they are also medically recognized and you can now get free vouchers from your doctor if you fit the critiera so it cant be that much bullshit.

You're right when you say people should use what works for them. If they have to resort to these companies, ok that's fine, but I hope they know they could've done it whilst learning about nutrition and how food affects their body too. The amount of people who work with me who go to these places and make no progress is hurtful. well you just carry on belittling people, by the way what are your qualifications in nutrition and diet management again, also now many people have you helped to lose weight, I'd like to see some evidence where putting a damper on people who have got themselves motivated to do something about it helps.

I don't think loosing 2 1/2 stone qualifes you to tell people with serious weight issues what they should and shouldn't be doing

I didn't say that losing 2.5 stone meant I was some sort of all knowing God. Somebody asked me how much weight i previously lost and I told them. I know how to lose weight and it would've worked whether I was 15 stone or 23 stone. nobody asked your advice you jumped in all guns blazing and also sems now that actually don't know anything about the new sw and ww plans

I don't. I was going off the Weightwatchers points for WW and the syns method for SW. Maybe you could inform me how they've changed and how the new systems work?"
why, you've already told people not to use them based on your knowledge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't belittle people,

Are you sure about that?

I kinda assumed people would know not to eat a purely carbohydrate-based diet because that would be a stupid thing to do.

You can lose multiple pounds in your sleep, you weighing a pound less than you did say a week ago doesn't necessarily mean anything. I've woken up multiple pounds lighter before.

They're not exactly supportive are they?"

How on earth are they belittling? In the first one I was pointing out the obvious in an extreme example given to me (of course you shouldn't eat a carb only diet, everyone knows a balanced diet is the best thing one can do to look good and be healthy) and then second is a matter of fact - I'm not saying people shouldn't be pleased they've lost weight, i was saying that the way you look matters, not the number on a scale and I was also being supportive of people who may have gone to SW/WW, looked at the scale and been disheartened because they've not lost enough when in reality they shouldn't have been because if they'd have been weighed at a different point in the day they wouldve been a few lbs lighter.

But feel free to keep sniping if you think you're being constructive.

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