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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So coming of some long term antibiotics which have slightly screwed with the plumbing as it were which of all the "friendly bacteria" style drinks/yoghurt etc is the best for get things back to normal?

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside


"So coming of some long term antibiotics which have slightly screwed with the plumbing as it were which of all the "friendly bacteria" style drinks/yoghurt etc is the best for get things back to normal?"

i wouldnty they contain sugar to keep them alive, too much sugar can breed the nasty bacteria in your gut too..so i would suggest centrum, multi vitamin, mineral and probiotic in one, tablets, not that expensive and give your whole system a boost, without sugars, whilst supporting other areas of your health xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So coming of some long term antibiotics which have slightly screwed with the plumbing as it were which of all the "friendly bacteria" style drinks/yoghurt etc is the best for get things back to normal?

i wouldnty they contain sugar to keep them alive, too much sugar can breed the nasty bacteria in your gut too..so i would suggest centrum, multi vitamin, mineral and probiotic in one, tablets, not that expensive and give your whole system a boost, without sugars, whilst supporting other areas of your health xx"

Centrum have a pretty appalling reputation for poor bioavailability etc though.

Or have they changed their make up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go to a health shop or some really good ones online such as Victoriahealth.com and they sell the probitics in tablet form. Not cheap but do the job .

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I agree on the sugar issue but the fact that these bacteria can be fed also means that you can farm them yourself at home.

Put some of the culture into milk, potentially without adding further sugar, as the milk will feed them. The temperature will affect the rate at which they can be cultivated. OK, if we were in a lab, we'd be using petri dishes etc, in order to do some testing, but we just want to grow more of them.

We can probably assume that the starting culture, ie out of the mini pot, is fairly clean and safe, apart from the live bacteria in it. Whilst it may need a perfect mix of conditions to grow, it'll likely develop just with some milk and possibly the sugar: if you check what you buy, it's probably shipped in a milk base.

It's a great way to save some money, as they cost a fortune! They'll reproduce more quickly at higher temperatures, but too warm and your milk will go off. So consider a little experimentation to see how it goes, wasting a bit of your culture with experimentation.

It's likely that after an initial lag phase, whilst they adjust to the new medium and temperature, they'll reproduce every hour or so. In other words, half a pot of initial stuff should have doubled in about an hour, to have the same number of bacteria as the initial full pot - you'd have had to increase its food supply to get it to do this of course.

I don't know which drinks etc you all take so the cultures may be different. Sometimes yeasts are included too. As long as the live ingredients are able to feed, they will grow.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Just eat ordinary live yoghurt!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Just eat ordinary live yoghurt! "

Was going to say this. Onken do a good plain live one.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Isn't peppermint tea meant to be good for that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can get sugar free Yakut now as we have put my step dad on them due to his low immune system, it's doing wonders for him

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"So coming of some long term antibiotics which have slightly screwed with the plumbing as it were which of all the "friendly bacteria" style drinks/yoghurt etc is the best for get things back to normal?"

I don't know, and I've always been a bit skeptical about health supplements for normal people. Did your doctor/nurse suggest anything?

I've always believed in a varied, balanced diet and plenty of rest to get the body back to normal. I did read somewhere that foods high in fibre last in the gut longer, so provide more nutrients for bacteria in the lower intestine.

Mr ddc

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

Proper live kombucha it contains a wider range of 'helpful' bacteria than the mainstream commercial probiotic drinks and yoghurt. Even better for a few quid investment you can set yourself up to 'ferment' your own.

Basically buy a starter culture and add it to cooled, black sweet tea in a glass basin or wide neck jar. Cover the jar with a clean tea towel and leave in a warm(ish) place for a few days. At this point the culture is recovered and moved to the next batch of cooled tea along with a glass of the fermented drink to start the next batch. The rest of the fermented drink can now be used or bottled and stored. There is loads of information on the net for full instructions.

The drink can be an aquire taste as some find it a bit vinegary but it's often described as being reminiscent of traditional cider.

Another alternative would be water or milk kefir. I haven't tried milk kefir but have made water kefir. I didn't like it as much as kombucha but mine at least had a less intense flavour tasting a bit like traditional lemonade.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

yakulkt and actimel have been a godsend for my ex wife -it's the only culture she gets

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

There's some limited evidence that a few specific strains of cultured bacteria and yeast may be effective across populations of people tested though this doesn't mean that each person would gain any benefit. And it's only evidence for some strains and not all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

5 pints of Guinness during the rugby this evening will sort you out!

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

Having been reading a lot on symbiotic colonies of bacteria and yeast fermentation it has become quiet funny. There are two camps diametrically oposed to each other. One claims lot of health benefits based fairly limited evidence. The other camp claims home 'fermented' probiotic drinks are dangerous, based on about six reports of consumers being hospitalised after consumption. Out of interest I tracked down the US Center for Disease Control reports on these cases. Low and behold in all of the cases investigations were inconclusive and toxicological and bacterial investigations failed to implicate the ferments. So essentially it comes down to two groups making completely contradictory claims without sufficient evidence to support either side.

My position is that kombucha type tonics have been used over large areas of the world seemingly with little harm. There was at least some anecdotal suggestions that certain diseases have lower incidence in places where it is regularly consumed so it was worth a try. Having tried it I find it pleasant enough to continue consuming it regardless of any alleged health benefits and should it provide any then that's an additional bonus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aloe vera juice is quite helpful as it helps calm and cleanse the digestive tract as is slippery elm powder. Holland and Barrett supply both as well as probiotic powder that you make up as a drink or sprinkle on your food. Good luck! My mum had problems like this last year after long term antibiotics. Probably a good idea to cut out sugar and all fermented products for a while til you feel better.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So coming of some long term antibiotics which have slightly screwed with the plumbing as it were which of all the "friendly bacteria" style drinks/yoghurt etc is the best for get things back to normal?

I don't know, and I've always been a bit skeptical about health supplements for normal people. Did your doctor/nurse suggest anything?

I've always believed in a varied, balanced diet and plenty of rest to get the body back to normal. I did read somewhere that foods high in fibre last in the gut longer, so provide more nutrients for bacteria in the lower intestine.

Mr ddc"

It's not really supliment it's the antibiotics have ruined the balance and I'd like to get it back sorted ASAP.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


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Mr ddc

It's not really supliment it's the antibiotics have ruined the balance and I'd like to get it back sorted ASAP. "

I'm just skeptical generally!

It can't do any harm giving it a go - some people swear by them. But there were reports last year that the majority of the bacteria they contain are killed as they pass through the stomach, and before that they were forced to withdraw a lot of the health-claims they made in their adverts.

There was a barley-based drink that came out better than the others: Symprove?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Mr ddc

It's not really supliment it's the antibiotics have ruined the balance and I'd like to get it back sorted ASAP.

I'm just skeptical generally!

It can't do any harm giving it a go - some people swear by them. But there were reports last year that the majority of the bacteria they contain are killed as they pass through the stomach, and before that they were forced to withdraw a lot of the health-claims they made in their adverts.

There was a barley-based drink that came out better than the others: Symprove?

"

No idea the I agree I wouldn't be surprised if most get nuked by the stomach that's what it's there for.

Maybe I should go for the fecal transplants lol

Think I'll go for the onken yoghurt as they're actually nice

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"Maybe I should go for the fecal transplants lol

"

I've started off a number of sewage treatment works, and that's always the method we used

(But, yes, the yoghurt is probably wiser for you )

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