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"surely tattoo removal is a skill not a home kit thing  "Especially since it involves lasers | |||
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"surely tattoo removal is a skill not a home kit thing
Especially since it involves lasers "It used to involve the use of hydrogen peroxide to break down the pigments under the skin and required a qualified medical professional. I'm assuming this kit used something similar and required an idiot. | |||
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"Just seen on news about "tattoo removal" kits that leave burns and scars due to haven a number of banned substances in them. Imported from China! Over the years have seen several stories like this..the highly flammable costume Claudia Wnklemans daughter was wearing is just another example...labelled flame retardant but wasn't. . Given that (A) we have a mahoosive trade deficit with China. (B) government are sucking up to China. (C) It seems to be that a large percentage of goods from China are fake/shoddy/dangerous. Then who thinks we should start our own campaign to boycott this "carp" and start our own campaign to avoid...... Tell your friends. Use social media. Use any method you can to spread the word...... Before they take over the world, destroy what bit of industry we have left and have us by the short n curlies!" "Seemingly a large percentage" This is an entirely made up statement based on 2 products cited out of the literally millions of items of export which China creates. The root cause here is people demanding expensive objects but refusing to pay more than a pittance for them. If you want a hand sewn garment with a variety of accoutrements and fancy bits for £5 then something is going to have to give. Similarly if you want a tattoo removed and think paying a tenner on eBay for something which costs hundreds from a reputable outlet on the high street is going to give you a satisfactory outcome then you are sadly mistaken. Where there is a demand for something human ingenuity finds a way to satisfy that demand. However some things are simply insurmountable and in the case of the dodgy costume it was the quality of the fabric and in the case of the mail order kit for burning a permanent stain off the skin of the user the defective object is the brain of the person who purchased it. As for the "before they take over the world" bit, Really?? Are you the daily mail in human form? Or have we gone back to the 60s. Good luck avoiding Chinese products. A great amount of the equipment in whichever device you used to post this will have been made and or assembled in China so your use of Fab will be greatly curtailed. Or are we just resorting to populist xenophobia? | |||
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"Anyone stupid enough to buy a tattoo removal kit from eBay (or anywhere else on the interweb) deserves everything they get in my opinion." Simply this.  | |||
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"I had some poor sap who brought a guitar round to me to set up for him as he was having trouble keeping it in tune. He said on the phone that it was a Brian Setzer Gretsch and asked me if I was experienced enough to do it? ( I explained I had the Gretsch 6120 Eddie Cochran model and also an original '55 6120, so he was happy with that ). Anyway he brought it round and it was a Chinese copy- he'd paid 1295 for! ( you can get the real deal for a touch over two grand ). How he didn't realise is beyond me. The headstock had the 'Gretsch' logo made out of a water slide decal ( like the things you put on an airfix model )- I pointed this out and showed him my REAL Gretsch, where the logo is mother of pearl inlays. He argued it was because mine was a different model! There were loads of other things- the biding was shoddy, the "Bigsby" wasn't 'real' and, there wasn't even an instrument label inside the body! It was also practically unplayable! He insisted it was real and stormed out with the right hump! I didn't tell him it would make nice firewood but, damn I felt like it!" I've seen that so many times, usually with Strats. Take the cavity covers off and the guitar is clearly plywood (or worse MDF). | |||
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"You get what you pay for. It's not a uniquely Chinese problem. You can go to most car boot sales and buy moody goods over here. "this.. | |||
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"Ketamine Absolutely fascinating article. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-bc7d54e7-88f6-4026-9faa-2a36d3359bb0" That was interesting. | |||
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"I had some poor sap who brought a guitar round to me to set up for him as he was having trouble keeping it in tune. He said on the phone that it was a Brian Setzer Gretsch and asked me if I was experienced enough to do it? ( I explained I had the Gretsch 6120 Eddie Cochran model and also an original '55 6120, so he was happy with that ). Anyway he brought it round and it was a Chinese copy- he'd paid 1295 for! ( you can get the real deal for a touch over two grand ). How he didn't realise is beyond me. The headstock had the 'Gretsch' logo made out of a water slide decal ( like the things you put on an airfix model )- I pointed this out and showed him my REAL Gretsch, where the logo is mother of pearl inlays. He argued it was because mine was a different model! There were loads of other things- the biding was shoddy, the "Bigsby" wasn't 'real' and, there wasn't even an instrument label inside the body! It was also practically unplayable! He insisted it was real and stormed out with the right hump! I didn't tell him it would make nice firewood but, damn I felt like it! I've seen that so many times, usually with Strats. Take the cavity covers off and the guitar is clearly plywood (or worse MDF)." The misery with this is how much he'd paid- horrible, truly horrible. Even with holding the 'real thing' ( my 'Cochran' 6120 ) he couldn't tell the difference ( or was in denial). These things don't even ' balance ' right, as you say, probably because of the wood types. I'm not certain but I 'think ' my 6120 is Maple? This is a far cry from the plywood of that other thing | |||
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"I had some poor sap who brought a guitar round to me to set up for him as he was having trouble keeping it in tune. He said on the phone that it was a Brian Setzer Gretsch and asked me if I was experienced enough to do it? ( I explained I had the Gretsch 6120 Eddie Cochran model and also an original '55 6120, so he was happy with that ). Anyway he brought it round and it was a Chinese copy- he'd paid 1295 for! ( you can get the real deal for a touch over two grand ). How he didn't realise is beyond me. The headstock had the 'Gretsch' logo made out of a water slide decal ( like the things you put on an airfix model )- I pointed this out and showed him my REAL Gretsch, where the logo is mother of pearl inlays. He argued it was because mine was a different model! There were loads of other things- the biding was shoddy, the "Bigsby" wasn't 'real' and, there wasn't even an instrument label inside the body! It was also practically unplayable! He insisted it was real and stormed out with the right hump! I didn't tell him it would make nice firewood but, damn I felt like it! I've seen that so many times, usually with Strats. Take the cavity covers off and the guitar is clearly plywood (or worse MDF). The misery with this is how much he'd paid- horrible, truly horrible. Even with holding the 'real thing' ( my 'Cochran' 6120 ) he couldn't tell the difference ( or was in denial). These things don't even ' balance ' right, as you say, probably because of the wood types. I'm not certain but I 'think ' my 6120 is Maple? This is a far cry from the plywood of that other thing" I had a lad bring me a 'genuine' Les Paul he'd purchased for the bargain price of £600. The first sign of trouble that he'd overlooked was the bolt-on neck and when I removed one of the pickups I found the top was a really thin veneer with a 'photo' finish. The thing was probably only worth £80! This is why I NEVER buy guitars off the internet unless I'm building a parts mongrel. | |||
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"I had some poor sap who brought a guitar round to me to set up for him as he was having trouble keeping it in tune. He said on the phone that it was a Brian Setzer Gretsch and asked me if I was experienced enough to do it? ( I explained I had the Gretsch 6120 Eddie Cochran model and also an original '55 6120, so he was happy with that ). Anyway he brought it round and it was a Chinese copy- he'd paid 1295 for! ( you can get the real deal for a touch over two grand ). How he didn't realise is beyond me. The headstock had the 'Gretsch' logo made out of a water slide decal ( like the things you put on an airfix model )- I pointed this out and showed him my REAL Gretsch, where the logo is mother of pearl inlays. He argued it was because mine was a different model! There were loads of other things- the biding was shoddy, the "Bigsby" wasn't 'real' and, there wasn't even an instrument label inside the body! It was also practically unplayable! He insisted it was real and stormed out with the right hump! I didn't tell him it would make nice firewood but, damn I felt like it! I've seen that so many times, usually with Strats. Take the cavity covers off and the guitar is clearly plywood (or worse MDF). The misery with this is how much he'd paid- horrible, truly horrible. Even with holding the 'real thing' ( my 'Cochran' 6120 ) he couldn't tell the difference ( or was in denial). These things don't even ' balance ' right, as you say, probably because of the wood types. I'm not certain but I 'think ' my 6120 is Maple? This is a far cry from the plywood of that other thing I had a lad bring me a 'genuine' Les Paul he'd purchased for the bargain price of £600. The first sign of trouble that he'd overlooked was the bolt-on neck and when I removed one of the pickups I found the top was a really thin veneer with a 'photo' finish. The thing was probably only worth £80! This is why I NEVER buy guitars off the internet unless I'm building a parts mongrel. " Good man!!! | |||
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"I bought a pair of DeArmond single coil pickups and a bigsby ( USA ) unit, also a TruArc Saddle all for mods I made to my Gretsch G 5420T... Sounds great now- better than the "Rattle-o-Matic" saddle, Blacktop FilterTrons and the Korean Licensed Bigsby with the horrid rubber bearings on the string bar!" Try Guitar Fetish for parts. You'll be pleasantly surprised. I took a punt on their Floyd Rose replacement (£35 isn't a big risk). Turned out that it's made by Ping and exactly the same as the one fitted to the old Peavey Wolfgang USA model. Their pickups are bloody good too. | |||
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"Just seen on news about "tattoo removal" kits that leave burns and scars due to haven a number of banned substances in them. Imported from China! Over the years have seen several stories like this..the highly flammable costume Claudia Wnklemans daughter was wearing is just another example...labelled flame retardant but wasn't. . Given that (A) we have a mahoosive trade deficit with China. (B) government are sucking up to China. (C) It seems to be that a large percentage of goods from China are fake/shoddy/dangerous. Then who thinks we should start our own campaign to boycott this "carp" and start our own campaign to avoid...... Tell your friends. Use social media. Use any method you can to spread the word...... Before they take over the world, destroy what bit of industry we have left and have us by the short n curlies!" How does the average person check something is legit in its contents? Not pike we all have chemical analysis machines at home | |||
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"Just seen on news about "tattoo removal" kits that leave burns and scars due to haven a number of banned substances in them. Imported from China! Over the years have seen several stories like this..the highly flammable costume Claudia Wnklemans daughter was wearing is just another example...labelled flame retardant but wasn't. . Given that (A) we have a mahoosive trade deficit with China. (B) government are sucking up to China. (C) It seems to be that a large percentage of goods from China are fake/shoddy/dangerous. Then who thinks we should start our own campaign to boycott this "carp" and start our own campaign to avoid...... Tell your friends. Use social media. Use any method you can to spread the word...... Before they take over the world, destroy what bit of industry we have left and have us by the short n curlies! How does the average person check something is legit in its contents? Not pike we all have chemical analysis machines at home" I tend to stay away from Chinese products if I can help it. If I have to pay slightly more so be it. .. | |||
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"Just seen on news about "tattoo removal" kits that leave burns and scars due to haven a number of banned substances in them. Imported from China! Over the years have seen several stories like this..the highly flammable costume Claudia Wnklemans daughter was wearing is just another example...labelled flame retardant but wasn't. . Given that (A) we have a mahoosive trade deficit with China. (B) government are sucking up to China. (C) It seems to be that a large percentage of goods from China are fake/shoddy/dangerous. Then who thinks we should start our own campaign to boycott this "carp" and start our own campaign to avoid...... Tell your friends. Use social media. Use any method you can to spread the word...... Before they take over the world, destroy what bit of industry we have left and have us by the short n curlies! How does the average person check something is legit in its contents? Not pike we all have chemical analysis machines at home I tend to stay away from Chinese products if I can help it. If I have to pay slightly more so be it. .." But you won't always know it's from China. If they're faking safety labels do you really think they're above a fake made in stamp? | |||
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"I bought a pair of DeArmond single coil pickups and a bigsby ( USA ) unit, also a TruArc Saddle all for mods I made to my Gretsch G 5420T... Sounds great now- better than the "Rattle-o-Matic" saddle, Blacktop FilterTrons and the Korean Licensed Bigsby with the horrid rubber bearings on the string bar! Try Guitar Fetish for parts. You'll be pleasantly surprised. I took a punt on their Floyd Rose replacement (£35 isn't a big risk). Turned out that it's made by Ping and exactly the same as the one fitted to the old Peavey Wolfgang USA model. Their pickups are bloody good too." I'll try them. Thanks for that! I got my DeArmonds from BlackRider Vintage Guitars- they are incredible pickups! I'm wondering about replacing the stock DynaSonic on my Eddie Cochran 6120 with a DeArmond as that is what would have been on Eddie's ( the DynaSonic is Gretsch's stock modern equivalent ). Would look into the possibility of getting an original Gibson P90 too were I to go down that route, lol | |||
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"I now wouldn't buy any Chinese product. It is invariably a cheap and nasty rip-off which stops working within a few days (if it ever works at all). And navigating around a Chinglish manual gives me a headache" So you don't own a mobile phone or computer then?  | |||
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"I now wouldn't buy any Chinese product. It is invariably a cheap and nasty rip-off which stops working within a few days (if it ever works at all). And navigating around a Chinglish manual gives me a headache So you don't own a mobile phone or computer then? "Ofcourse I do; and these are both German products and made in Germany. Not everything is made in China; most rubbish is though | |||
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"I now wouldn't buy any Chinese product. It is invariably a cheap and nasty rip-off which stops working within a few days (if it ever works at all). And navigating around a Chinglish manual gives me a headache So you don't own a mobile phone or computer then?
Ofcourse I do; and these are both German products and made in Germany. Not everything is made in China; most rubbish is though"I think you'd be surprised how many of the components used in those items are made in China, even if they say they're made in Germany - they may be partly 'assembled' in Germany, but if you look into who's actually extracting the essential rare minerals to produce them (largely from Africa) you'll find a Chinese operation behind them. | |||
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"I now wouldn't buy any Chinese product. It is invariably a cheap and nasty rip-off which stops working within a few days (if it ever works at all). And navigating around a Chinglish manual gives me a headache So you don't own a mobile phone or computer then?
Ofcourse I do; and these are both German products and made in Germany. Not everything is made in China; most rubbish is though
I think you'd be surprised how many of the components used in those items are made in China, even if they say they're made in Germany - they may be partly 'assembled' in Germany, but if you look into who's actually extracting the essential rare minerals to produce them (largely from Africa) you'll find a Chinese operation behind them."Made in Germany is made in Germany; Assembled in Germany is assembled in Germany In any event, I won't have to deal with someone in Peking for replacement or warranty claims. Plus, I will be able to read the manual | |||
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"I now wouldn't buy any Chinese product. It is invariably a cheap and nasty rip-off which stops working within a few days (if it ever works at all). And navigating around a Chinglish manual gives me a headache So you don't own a mobile phone or computer then?
Ofcourse I do; and these are both German products and made in Germany. Not everything is made in China; most rubbish is though
I think you'd be surprised how many of the components used in those items are made in China, even if they say they're made in Germany - they may be partly 'assembled' in Germany, but if you look into who's actually extracting the essential rare minerals to produce them (largely from Africa) you'll find a Chinese operation behind them.
Made in Germany is made in Germany; Assembled in Germany is assembled in Germany
In any event, I won't have to deal with someone in Peking for replacement or warranty claims. Plus, I will be able to read the manual"Not necessarily - sorry to say. Component parts and materials can be imported from other countries - and as long as the level of assembly is significant enough - it can be labelled "Made in ..." | |||
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"I now wouldn't buy any Chinese product. It is invariably a cheap and nasty rip-off which stops working within a few days (if it ever works at all). And navigating around a Chinglish manual gives me a headache So you don't own a mobile phone or computer then?
Ofcourse I do; and these are both German products and made in Germany. Not everything is made in China; most rubbish is though
I think you'd be surprised how many of the components used in those items are made in China, even if they say they're made in Germany - they may be partly 'assembled' in Germany, but if you look into who's actually extracting the essential rare minerals to produce them (largely from Africa) you'll find a Chinese operation behind them.
Made in Germany is made in Germany; Assembled in Germany is assembled in Germany
In any event, I won't have to deal with someone in Peking for replacement or warranty claims. Plus, I will be able to read the manual
Not necessarily - sorry to say. Component parts and materials can be imported from other countries - and as long as the level of assembly is significant enough - it can be labelled "Made in ...""Still comes with a 3 year warranty from Bosch or Miele and neither is a good understanding of Chinglish required nor waiting for a 'service' engineer from Peking  | |||
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