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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

my sleep has been really shitty recently. some nights i cant nod off at all and others im waking up after a few hours and unable to nod off again

anyone got any tips or advice on sleeping aids?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"my sleep has been really shitty recently. some nights i cant nod off at all and others im waking up after a few hours and unable to nod off again

anyone got any tips or advice on sleeping aids?"
15 pints of Stella and an omnibus of Eastenders

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Are you worried about something?

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are you worried about something?

Mr ddc"

my mind does race once i settle down at night sometimes

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"my sleep has been really shitty recently. some nights i cant nod off at all and others im waking up after a few hours and unable to nod off again

anyone got any tips or advice on sleeping aids?15 pints of Stella and an omnibus of Eastenders

lol funny

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Nothing repeatable in public

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turn off all electronic devices at least an hour before bedtime, wind down with a warm bath.

Have a window open.

Warm milk.

Empty your mind.

If you wake up don't look at the clock, turnover & close your eyes.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

I tend to watch something on my phone for a while in bed,it stops me thinking about things whilst I'm waiting to fall asleep. I don't wake up though when I am asleep thankfully.

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"my sleep has been really shitty recently. some nights i cant nod off at all and others im waking up after a few hours and unable to nod off again

anyone got any tips or advice on sleeping aids?"

Lavender oil massage and some lavender buds under your pillow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get a really big book. Hardback, preferably.

Get yourself comfortable, settle yourself in bed and then whack yourself over the head with that book until you fall asleep

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"my sleep has been really shitty recently. some nights i cant nod off at all and others im waking up after a few hours and unable to nod off again

anyone got any tips or advice on sleeping aids?

15 pints of Stella and an omnibus of Eastenders

*snorts*

I don't have problems sleeping often but there are occasions so my doc gave me some sleeping pills. It is a really small prescription and I may use them twice a year but it works to get a proper night if I've had a few sleepless ones. I'd not recommend as a long term solution though. Exercise helps... fresh air. Knacker yourself with physical exercise.

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By *ouplefunukCouple
over a year ago

North Bristol

Magnesium. Supplements are rubbish, but pop some Dead Sea salts in a bath or foot soak (the biggest pores on the body are on the soles of your feet) and you'll absorb it much better. Most people are deficient in magnesium and it contributes to poor sleep.

No Telly or phone for at least 1 hr before bed and only low lighting. (Blue light suppresses melotonin levels which need to rise in order for you to sleep)

A teaspoon of honey with a sprinkle of salt (helps melatonin rise)

A warm bath (the dip in body temp immediately after helps melatonin rise)

All these suggestions are science based and not old wives tales. We spent a year researching and speaking to experts when our little one just would not sleep. Like ever.

Good luck - sleep deprivation drove me to the brink of a mental breakdown.

*Her*

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Are you worried about something?

Mr ddc

my mind does race once i settle down at night sometimes"

I used to find getting up and writing everything down sometimes helped clear my mind. Otherwise what Classy Laydee said ^^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

4 hours a night MAX!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Off now to try for the first restless hour....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Radio 4 and the World Service. It matters not if you wake. Wonderful stuff.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Magnesium. Supplements are rubbish, but pop some Dead Sea salts in a bath or foot soak (the biggest pores on the body are on the soles of your feet) and you'll absorb it much better. Most people are deficient in magnesium and it contributes to poor sleep.

No Telly or phone for at least 1 hr before bed and only low lighting. (Blue light suppresses melotonin levels which need to rise in order for you to sleep)

A teaspoon of honey with a sprinkle of salt (helps melatonin rise)

A warm bath (the dip in body temp immediately after helps melatonin rise)

All these suggestions are science based and not old wives tales. We spent a year researching and speaking to experts when our little one just would not sleep. Like ever.

Good luck - sleep deprivation drove me to the brink of a mental breakdown.

*Her* "

I was going to say take melatonin for a few nights to get back into a good sleep cycle but just googled it and didnt realise it was prescription only in the UK

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

No Telly or phone for at least 1 hr before bed and only low lighting. (Blue light suppresses melotonin levels which need to rise in order for you to sleep)

A teaspoon of honey with a sprinkle of salt (helps melatonin rise)

A warm bath (the dip in body temp immediately after helps melatonin rise)

All these suggestions are science based and not old wives tales. We spent a year researching and speaking to experts when our little one just would not sleep. Like ever.

Good luck - sleep deprivation drove me to the brink of a mental breakdown.

*Her*

I was going to say take melatonin for a few nights to get back into a good sleep cycle but just googled it and didnt realise it was prescription only in the UK"

Yeah I have some of those too... stock up on good meds when you visit the USA.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No Telly or phone for at least 1 hr before bed and only low lighting. (Blue light suppresses melotonin levels which need to rise in order for you to sleep)

A teaspoon of honey with a sprinkle of salt (helps melatonin rise)

A warm bath (the dip in body temp immediately after helps melatonin rise)

All these suggestions are science based and not old wives tales. We spent a year researching and speaking to experts when our little one just would not sleep. Like ever.

Good luck - sleep deprivation drove me to the brink of a mental breakdown.

*Her*

I was going to say take melatonin for a few nights to get back into a good sleep cycle but just googled it and didnt realise it was prescription only in the UK"

i was gonna mention melatonin. i can get it without prescription

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Yeah I have some of those too... stock up on good meds when you visit the USA.

Snap

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

plenty to consider. thanks everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No Telly or phone for at least 1 hr before bed and only low lighting. (Blue light suppresses melotonin levels which need to rise in order for you to sleep)

A teaspoon of honey with a sprinkle of salt (helps melatonin rise)

A warm bath (the dip in body temp immediately after helps melatonin rise)

All these suggestions are science based and not old wives tales. We spent a year researching and speaking to experts when our little one just would not sleep. Like ever.

Good luck - sleep deprivation drove me to the brink of a mental breakdown.

*Her*

I was going to say take melatonin for a few nights to get back into a good sleep cycle but just googled it and didnt realise it was prescription only in the UK"

It's crazy you can buy it in public vending machines in Spain

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

My other tip - have the radio or some music on very low, so that you really have to concentrate to hear it. Supposed to be something about your brain focusing on that so that it cuts out all the other crap youre thinking about. Not sure if thats true or not but it certainly works for me. Has to be really low though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Radio4 shipping news, does it every time.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Magnesium supplements are well absorbed, especially chelated!

Valerian is an effective sedative herb that I find stops the mind racing, and is in most of the herbal sleep remedies.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"My other tip - have the radio or some music on very low, so that you really have to concentrate to hear it. Supposed to be something about your brain focusing on that so that it cuts out all the other crap youre thinking about. Not sure if thats true or not but it certainly works for me. Has to be really low though."

I have music on every night. I listen to the same cd for massive periods of time. Pink was in there for 9 years. Every night the same songs. I'm a creature of habit.

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By *ouplefunukCouple
over a year ago

North Bristol

Taking melatonin short term is fine (a few nights) but longer term will mess with your natural circadian rhythm and you'll sleep less in the longer term.

As far as music goes, google 'alpha' music. It works

*Her*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you worried about something?

Mr ddc

my mind does race once i settle down at night sometimes

I used to find getting up and writing everything down sometimes helped clear my mind. Otherwise what Classy Laydee said ^^"

I have post it notes & a pen on the beside table just in case.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

need to sleep tonight

will be my 3rd in a row if i dont

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"need to sleep tonight

will be my 3rd in a row if i dont

Try not to make a big thing about it.

The more you think about not sleeping the harder it becomes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Magnesium supplements are well absorbed, especially chelated!

Valerian is an effective sedative herb that I find stops the mind racing, and is in most of the herbal sleep remedies."

valerian tea helps calm me - also acts like catnip

- also music as already posted above.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"need to sleep tonight

will be my 3rd in a row if i dont

Try not to make a big thing about it.

The more you think about not sleeping the harder it becomes."

thats true. i started focusing so hard on shutting down and falling asleep lastnight. but it ended up keeping me awake

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

im going shopping tomorrow

gonna come back with a bag full of sleeping aids

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have you tried deep breathing exercises with muscle relaxing exercises?

I have bad,edgy nights and I get a headache trying to sleep. I realised I was tensing up and holding my breath. I learnt relaxation techniques to help from a counsellor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Colin a Espie - overcoming insomnia and sleep problems. This is the book my insomnia doc recommended. Waiting list for clinic in London is very long even when you get on the list once diagnosed as an insomniac. Hope this is just a blip for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here's a tip I've been using for a while and it really works for me as I have often struggled to get off to sleep.

I start of being aware of my breathing and then find a rhythm where I start to snore gently - it seems to lul my brain and body into a deep sleep relatively quickly.

Reading with a kindle on very low light also helps!

Best of luck if you give it a go.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Not read through this yet.

But reduce artificial light through the evening - blue light emitted from tv and phone screens etc, as part of white light, disrupts your circadian rhythms. It stops melatonin being produced, which initiates and maintains sleep.

Apps are available for computers and phones that stop blue light emissions. Reducing the brightness intensity of your tv may help a little. But this light is totally disruptive to good sleep patterns.

Write stuff out at the end of a day, stuff to remember or to do etc. It helps rest your mind.

Have a clear bedroom too.

Practice relaxation and breathing techniques. It's a skill you will get better at and can rely on if needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not read through this yet.

Write stuff out at the end of a day, stuff to remember or to do etc. It helps rest your mind.

Have a clear bedroom too.

Practice relaxation and breathing techniques. It's a skill you will get better at and can rely on if needed."

The clear bedroom thing is something I found comforting. I made my room and bedding neutral colours and had it immaculately tidy,no clutter. It was almost like a hospital room. I felt calm but cosy with a dim lamp on to read by.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Have you thought about doing a sleep hygene programme

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I squirt lavender over the pillows and make sure I am not too hot or too cold.

When my head gets too busy I leave myself a voicemail (writing it down wakes me up too much) and then roll over and try to sleep again.

The radio helps a lot too.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Well I'm on Tramadol and wouldn't even consider putting the words "sleep" & "pattern" in the same sentence

Usually I'm up most of the night and grab a few hours in the day if I can, but not slept properly for a couple of days, so am planning to have an early one tonight. Well before the morning thread starts anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm trained in NLP and hypnotherapy and the suggestion I tend to give depends on why a person isn't sleeping ... But commonly it's the inability to switch off or people "trying to sleep".

What I tend to suggest is to start a dream. The more outlandish or enjoyable the better and completely immerse yourself in it.

So if your being a superhero and flying (that's he one I use) , feel the cool, calm wind on your face as you fly through the white fluffy clouds, the stunning sunset bleeding from the horizon as you hear the relaxing sound of empty space. Taste the cool, fresh air ... Etc

As you build the pictures in your mind, hear the sounds, feel the feelings and allow those sensations to fill your mind as you let go you will soon find yourself waking up in the morning.

It takes patience and you have to give yourself permission to commit to it but it's often far more effective than drugs and you have more control

Give that a go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How was your night OP?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How was your night OP?"

He has just finished doing all of the above and is just dropping off...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

better than the last 2 nights thanks

mustve fallen asleep around 11pm and then woke up at 3 and couldnt drift off again

better than nothing i guess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I shouldn't have read this thread yesterday....jinxed myself and had a shit night sleep!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"better than the last 2 nights thanks

mustve fallen asleep around 11pm and then woke up at 3 and couldnt drift off again

better than nothing i guess"

Ah you looked at the time when you woke up ~ don't do that!!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"better than the last 2 nights thanks

mustve fallen asleep around 11pm and then woke up at 3 and couldnt drift off again

better than nothing i guess

Ah you looked at the time when you woke up ~ don't do that!!

NEVER look at the time.

A friend suggested that when you wake up it's probably because you need a drink or the loo. Whether true or not I now have a sip of water, go to the loo and then got back to bed as if I had done the sleepy walk to the loo.

It seems to work for me about 50% of the time.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

gonna try a few things tonight

radio on - for some reason i do feel more at ease when i have background noise. thats always been the case even when my sleep pattern was fine. while everyone else complained about the noise i slept like a baby

pad and pencil - write shit down if anythings playing on my mind

and a warm mug of milk

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Remember to get those lights down or off Shaun. Blue light, from within the white that we see, is a sleep pattern killer. Avoid artificial light from devices at night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a wank before bed time, it help me to sleep quicker.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I wake up at silly o'clock I try going back to sleep in a different room. Normally works for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm trained in NLP and hypnotherapy and the suggestion I tend to give depends on why a person isn't sleeping ... But commonly it's the inability to switch off or people "trying to sleep".

What I tend to suggest is to start a dream. The more outlandish or enjoyable the better and completely immerse yourself in it.

As you build the pictures in your mind, hear the sounds, feel the feelings and allow those sensations to fill your mind as you let go you will soon find yourself waking up in the morning.

It takes patience and you have to give yourself permission to commit to it but it's often far more effective than drugs and you have more control

Give that a go

I like this.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

And although Ive given my top tips up there ^^^ if I cant sleep I often get up, go downstairs, have a fag and a coffee then go back to bed and sleep like a baby.

Probably not the best recommendation though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sleep naked. Seriously, it's science.

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