FabSwingers.com forum: Would you buy a car off a lying bastard?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Now that they've been caught red-handed cheating on their exhaust emissions, I wonder how many will think twice before buying a VW.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34311819

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My VW is a Volvo..

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Obviously Ferrari don't rig the noise regulations on their cars either

C...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Noise regulations......

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obviously Ferrari don't rig the noise regulations on their cars either

C..."

They don't as it happens. As long as they're below 110db they're legal.

The VW thing is just the tip of the iceberg with German manufacturers. Audi were forced to fit new engines (for free) in America because of premature ring wear. It will be happening here soon too.

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By *MP3Man
over a year ago

Between Scylla and Charybdis

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Herbie wasn't

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ...... because of premature ring wear. It will be happening here soon too."

*sniggers*

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ...... because of premature ring wear. It will be happening here soon too.

I just use lots of lube

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Various manufacturers have been doing it for years.

Porsche 911's used to have an air pump running off the crank which put extra air into the exhaust to fiddle the emmission readings for the US market.

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

Not read the full story but is it any different to mpg? Which you can only get in test conditions not actual use.

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

What you know a car dealer who isn't a lying basted

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Trying to get round pointless regulations, not sure which is worse

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

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By *MP3Man
over a year ago

Between Scylla and Charybdis

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

As his name immediately suggests

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

Well that all depends if our engines match in size... if they do then you won't need to 'let me' win you big patronising tossbucket!!

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

Well that all depends if our engines match in size... if they do then you won't need to 'let me' win you big patronising tossbucket!!

I'll garentee my engines smaller.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

"Trying to get round pointless regulations, not sure which is worse

Pointless. Isn't that the line of defence the banks took when getting "light" touch regulation. That ended well too

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

Well that all depends if our engines match in size... if they do then you won't need to 'let me' win you big patronising tossbucket!!

I'll garentee my engines smaller.

You have a Fiat 500 don't you?!

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

Well that all depends if our engines match in size... if they do then you won't need to 'let me' win you big patronising tossbucket!!

I'll garentee my engines smaller.

You have a Fiat 500 don't you?!

Nope try again

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

Well that all depends if our engines match in size... if they do then you won't need to 'let me' win you big patronising tossbucket!!

I'll garentee my engines smaller.

You have a Fiat 500 don't you?!

Nope try again

Push bike?!

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

Well that all depends if our engines match in size... if they do then you won't need to 'let me' win you big patronising tossbucket!!

I'll garentee my engines smaller.

You have a Fiat 500 don't you?!

Nope try again

Push bike?!

There's a clue at the top of my msg

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Good cars better than most

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now that they've been caught red-handed cheating on their exhaust emissions, I wonder how many will think twice before buying a VW.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34311819"
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Well if vw are at it, you can guarantee that all the rest are!

I've said it on the forums for years.... Diesels are overrated and completely illogical buys for the vast majority of people!

Mind you I would say that... I drive one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now that they've been caught red-handed cheating on their exhaust emissions, I wonder how many will think twice before buying a VW.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34311819.

Well if vw are at it, you can guarantee that all the rest are!

I've said it on the forums for years.... Diesels are overrated and completely illogical buys for the vast majority of people!

Mind you I would say that... I drive one

They're only good if you drive 15k miles a year. Sadly the apparent emissions and economy equipment make them incredibly uneconomical, unreliable and dirty if you don't put the miles in.

The worst piece of advancment for the internal compression engine (diesels don't combust) are the EGR valve, swirl flaps and DPF. Remove them (sadly illegal now) and they're better than most petrol engines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now that they've been caught red-handed cheating on their exhaust emissions, I wonder how many will think twice before buying a VW.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34311819.

Well if vw are at it, you can guarantee that all the rest are!

I've said it on the forums for years.... Diesels are overrated and completely illogical buys for the vast majority of people!

Mind you I would say that... I drive one

They're only good if you drive 15k miles a year. Sadly the apparent emissions and economy equipment make them incredibly uneconomical, unreliable and dirty if you don't put the miles in.

There also rather deadly for emissions without them... And there not much better with them!

Me I make my own diesel from cooking oil.... I'm currently running on some very nice vegetable oil from my local Chippy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't like to even estimate the number of diesel cars on the road that have been re mapped, decated, DPF deleted or EGR valve blanked.

They all seem to get through an MOT just fine

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

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You can't use veg oil on the latest engines or cars with Lucas pumps

C...

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"You can't use veg oil on the latest engines or cars with Lucas pumps

C..."

Shhhhhh don't tell him that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

Well that all depends if our engines match in size... if they do then you won't need to 'let me' win you big patronising tossbucket!!

I'll garentee my engines smaller.

You have a Fiat 500 don't you?!

Nope try again

Push bike?!

There's a clue at the top of my msg

Oh yeah!!

Must be an MV then!

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

Well that all depends if our engines match in size... if they do then you won't need to 'let me' win you big patronising tossbucket!!

I'll garentee my engines smaller.

You have a Fiat 500 don't you?!

Nope try again

Push bike?!

There's a clue at the top of my msg

Oh yeah!!

Must be an MV then!

You two have lost me now...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can't use veg oil on the latest engines or cars with Lucas pumps

C..."
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I'm on a twenty year old diesel.

Out of curiosity, can you tell me why not?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

It's too thick for the injectors in modern diesels. I used to use veg in my old Nissan, can't use it in my ford

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"What you know a car dealer who isn't a lying basted

"
. Most large reputable car dealers are honest. They also have a difficult job to do keeping customers happy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's too thick for the injectors in modern diesels. I used to use veg in my old Nissan, can't use it in my ford"

Oh I don't use it neat, I refine it myself.

On my old old van I used to have a pre warmer on the fuel line and in the winter I'd mix it 80/20 with petrol or white spirits....

Or sshhh heating oil (as a boiler engineer I often come across alot that's thrown out)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What you know a car dealer who isn't a lying basted

. Most large reputable car dealers are honest. They also have a difficult job to do keeping customers happy."

I bought my car from a Small Honda dealership and they are awesome, honestly can't fault them. Had my car there last week, wasn't always starting, turns out it was just a battery terminal that had come loose. They sorted it in 5 mins with no charge.

Also made me smile when the technicians asked to here the speakers which set the alarms off on the cars in the forecourt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The worst piece of advancment for the internal compression engine (diesels don't combust) are the EGR valve, swirl flaps and DPF. Remove them (sadly illegal now) and they're better than most petrol engines."

Ermm, Diesel engines do combust, they just do it through compression rather than a spark ignition. If there was no combustion they wouldn't work.

Otherwise, completely agree about EGR, DPF, etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ermm, Diesel engines do combust, they just do it through compression rather than a spark ignition. If there was no combustion they wouldn't work.

Otherwise, completely agree about EGR, DPF, etc. "

Think he's more talking about that there is no direct combustion e.g a spark plug, the diesel goes bang because the air heats up when compressed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Before everyone gets all whimsical about how great diesels would be without the dpf,egr etc etc

Remember you'd be paying about 600 road tax without them and the pollution from diesels are way worse than petrols!

In fact five will get you ten, within ten years you won't get into London with a diesel car, or any other European capitals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ermm, Diesel engines do combust, they just do it through compression rather than a spark ignition. If there was no combustion they wouldn't work.

Otherwise, completely agree about EGR, DPF, etc.

Think he's more talking about that there is no direct combustion e.g a spark plug, the diesel goes bang because the air heats up when compressed. "

It's still an internal combustion engine, I've built, modified and mapped enough petrol and diesel engines to know. Not trying to have a dig at anyone just like facts to be correct

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Insider tip - in 5-7 years most diesel cars will be phased out in preference to hybrids.

The manufacturers realise they can't meet anymore regulation with diesel without massive investment.

Better to use petrol hybrids and spend the money there.

Rudolf Diesel had a winning idea due to his design that could just about burn anything, esp cheap unrefined fuels. But it's now tarnished by emission controls fucking up the works.

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I have a VW... he's my third and I'm pretty sure nothing could make me love him less!

All VWs are female surely?

Barney is very masculine!

Lmfao@barney

Oi!!!

He's beautiful! And fast!

Fancy a race I might even let you win

Well that all depends if our engines match in size... if they do then you won't need to 'let me' win you big patronising tossbucket!!

I'll garentee my engines smaller.

You have a Fiat 500 don't you?!

Nope try again

Push bike?!

There's a clue at the top of my msg

Oh yeah!!

Must be an MV then!

Took a second but I argusta got there

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