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"Do you think he really did that though? I mean that's just disgusting, am sure no-one would actually fuck a dead pigs face. " Apparently photographic evidence exists of it. We're unlikely to see it though, or want to see it. These initiations are all sorts of scummy. Remember the one where a toff burned a £50 note in the face of a beggar? | |||
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"Do you think he really did that though? I mean that's just disgusting, am sure no-one would actually fuck a dead pigs face. " I've done it a few times. Least that's what it looked and felt like..... | |||
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"Do you think he really did that though? I mean that's just disgusting, am sure no-one would actually fuck a dead pigs face. I've done it a few times. Least that's what it looked and felt like..... " Glad i haven't met you. There's photos of it apparently, why on earth would you let yourself be photographed doing that?! | |||
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"Do you think he really did that though? I mean that's just disgusting, am sure no-one would actually fuck a dead pigs face. I've done it a few times. Least that's what it looked and felt like..... Glad i haven't met you. There's photos of it apparently, why on earth would you let yourself be photographed doing that?!" Coming from a squaddie here the saying "for shits and giggles" springs to mind. I'm glad I've a shit memory. I can only imagine what I've done in my younger years! | |||
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"Do you think he really did that though? I mean that's just disgusting, am sure no-one would actually fuck a dead pigs face. I've done it a few times. Least that's what it looked and felt like..... Glad i haven't met you. There's photos of it apparently, why on earth would you let yourself be photographed doing that?! Coming from a squaddie here the saying "for shits and giggles" springs to mind. I'm glad I've a shit memory. I can only imagine what I've done in my younger years! " Fair enough. I can blame alcohol for anything i can't remember doing. *tries not to remember anything right now* | |||
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"Doesn't seem to be a criminal offence though. S.69 of Sexual offences act defines bestiality as penetration of genitals or anus. S.70 defines necrophilia as penetration of part of a dead person. Morally repulsive on every level, yes. " That answers my question then, thanks. | |||
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"So, not everything tastes better with bacon?" Too salty apparently | |||
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"Tony Blair has been fucking a pig for years- he even married her " I'm sure that's of great concern to her. She may just have to sit and count her money again. | |||
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"My dad was in the army for most of his 20s. He got up to all sorts of embarrassing stuff. Partly through choice, partly his fault, partly due to the absolutely essential need to fit in. What he did then does not define him now. " I'm an amateur fighter and have been asked alongside other fighters to bark like a dog to show obedience. The other fighters did and I refused. My obedience does not correlate with me barking. I got more respect with my stance in the end. | |||
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"My dad was in the army for most of his 20s. He got up to all sorts of embarrassing stuff. Partly through choice, partly his fault, partly due to the absolutely essential need to fit in. What he did then does not define him now. " That's probably because your dad isn't Prime Minister, and no-one cares what he got up to in the army. | |||
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"It's utterly revolting, one vile creature taking on Miss Piggy - if it was female, we'll not likely be told?? " 'Course it was female...He's not gay!!! | |||
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"Do you think he really did that though? I mean that's just disgusting, am sure no-one would actually fuck a dead pigs face. I've done it a few times. Least that's what it looked and felt like..... " I just spat my yorkshire gold out! Top work! | |||
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"Funnily enough, if there was a hint that Jeremy Corbyn had done something similar, we would have at least twelve separate topics on it by now. Fab's Tories are staying very quiet on this one! " Was thinking the same - Corbyn not singing the national anthem/not tying his tie was a much bigger story (on here and in the media) than this one Maybe this story will grow wings yet? (Flying pigs? ) | |||
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"I've done loads of really stupid irrelevant things during my life...... and I hope too add to that tally.... I would feel such a failure if I just plodded along through life doing nothing that might cause offence in case I risked public ridicule for displaying bad taste or for committing a minor indiscretion.... A closet without skeletons sounds like a dreadfully dull place.... " This! | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. " Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. | |||
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"I bet Dave says it's all porkys anyway. If he dies I'll say "shut your chops" " Does , obviously. | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. " Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. | |||
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"[Removed head from pig first 21/09/15 16:06:36]" I get my butler to do that bit. | |||
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"I get my butler to do that bit. " [Removes butler, replaces with monkey butler 21/09/15 16:14:24] I need to find something to do here i think... | |||
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"Read a book called "The Establishment" by Owen Jones. Paperback £8.99 or two books for £7 from Tesco You will find out what these people really get up to!" Watched some interesting documentaries on YouTube about so called illuminati initiation ceremonies. They don't half get upto some strange stuff. | |||
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"Read a book called "The Establishment" by Owen Jones. Paperback £8.99 or two books for £7 from Tesco You will find out what these people really get up to! Watched some interesting documentaries on YouTube about so called illuminati initiation ceremonies. They don't half get upto some strange stuff. " . You don't need the illuminati, just look at what nearly all the American presidents have got upto at bohemian groove!. I feel it necessary to say that Tony Blair resisted many invites to go there! Apparently bush couldn't entice him | |||
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"Read a book called "The Establishment" by Owen Jones. Paperback £8.99 or two books for £7 from Tesco You will find out what these people really get up to! Watched some interesting documentaries on YouTube about so called illuminati initiation ceremonies. They don't half get upto some strange stuff. . You don't need the illuminati, just look at what nearly all the American presidents have got upto at bohemian groove!. I feel it necessary to say that Tony Blair resisted many invites to go there! Apparently bush couldn't entice him " Yes I've seen the footage of the secret undercover filming at bohemian Grove. Rumour that the illuminati also involved in it in some way? Funny that a lot of videos on the same YouTube page were links to devil worship? Not sure what they are trying to say with that are they hinting at something, or is it peoples over active imaginations? There were also links to David Icke speeches though. | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. " I agree we've all done things that we would be mortified if they came to light, only difference is where not the prime minister | |||
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"Read a book called "The Establishment" by Owen Jones. Paperback £8.99 or two books for £7 from Tesco You will find out what these people really get up to! Watched some interesting documentaries on YouTube about so called illuminati initiation ceremonies. They don't half get upto some strange stuff. . You don't need the illuminati, just look at what nearly all the American presidents have got upto at bohemian groove!. I feel it necessary to say that Tony Blair resisted many invites to go there! Apparently bush couldn't entice him Yes I've seen the footage of the secret undercover filming at bohemian Grove. Rumour that the illuminati also involved in it in some way? Funny that a lot of videos on the same YouTube page were links to devil worship? Not sure what they are trying to say with that are they hinting at something, or is it peoples over active imaginations? There were also links to David Icke speeches though. " . Yeah that's a tough one! I actually know David icke to speak to a bit and I know people who know him very well, a nicer and most sincere guy you'll struggle to meet and nobody has a bad word to say about him!.. Some people have things that happen in their lives that effect them! | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. I agree we've all done things that we would be mortified if they came to light, only difference is where not the prime minister" Do you think he knew that at the time he was sliding his weaner into the gob of a dead pig? I'd like to think that the next generation will be smarter about what they get up to in light of this sort of thing but something tells me it's likely to get worse. | |||
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"Read a book called "The Establishment" by Owen Jones. Paperback £8.99 or two books for £7 from Tesco You will find out what these people really get up to! Watched some interesting documentaries on YouTube about so called illuminati initiation ceremonies. They don't half get upto some strange stuff. . You don't need the illuminati, just look at what nearly all the American presidents have got upto at bohemian groove!. I feel it necessary to say that Tony Blair resisted many invites to go there! Apparently bush couldn't entice him Yes I've seen the footage of the secret undercover filming at bohemian Grove. Rumour that the illuminati also involved in it in some way? Funny that a lot of videos on the same YouTube page were links to devil worship? Not sure what they are trying to say with that are they hinting at something, or is it peoples over active imaginations? There were also links to David Icke speeches though. . Yeah that's a tough one! I actually know David icke to speak to a bit and I know people who know him very well, a nicer and most sincere guy you'll struggle to meet and nobody has a bad word to say about him!.. Some people have things that happen in their lives that effect them!" He spoke highly of the Isle of Wight and Freemasony as a whole if I remember. I'm guessing he didn't get asked to stand on the square. | |||
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"You can suffix almost any word with "gate" and some people will believe whatever scandalous rumour you then attach ..... It's like it must be true because it's got gate on the end.... " We have a back gate. | |||
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"I suppose I'm speaking for myself here, but I think that the sort of person is fit to be Prime Minister of this country isn't someone who would willingly fuck a pig's mouth." But must be willing to fuck the country? | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. " I really don't think it's anything like the same. Personally I don't believe it but I'm sure the truth will come out on the end. | |||
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" Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. " So by this logic, we have to either give a shit about both stories, or neither of them. I'll take neither, please. | |||
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"Casseteboy! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBpQJ98rR4o" | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. I really don't think it's anything like the same. Personally I don't believe it but I'm sure the truth will come out on the end. " You're right, it's not the same at all. One was the media making up a load of nonsense to try and make a decent politician look seedy. The other is David Cameron fucking a pig. | |||
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"I suppose I'm speaking for myself here, but I think that the sort of person is fit to be Prime Minister of this country isn't someone who would willingly fuck a pig's mouth. But must be willing to fuck the country?" I suppose that's something to be said for Cameron, as you get both he represents some sort of value for money at least. | |||
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"Read a book called "The Establishment" by Owen Jones. Paperback £8.99 or two books for £7 from Tesco You will find out what these people really get up to! Watched some interesting documentaries on YouTube about so called illuminati initiation ceremonies. They don't half get upto some strange stuff. . You don't need the illuminati, just look at what nearly all the American presidents have got upto at bohemian groove!. I feel it necessary to say that Tony Blair resisted many invites to go there! Apparently bush couldn't entice him " As an American, i have heard that some crazy shit goes on there at the grove. As it is only speculation, but some of the stories are disgusting. If anyone has extra time(most do if youre always on the forums) google hollywood illuminati and you will see and read some fucked up things that go on with the rich and famous people. | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. I really don't think it's anything like the same. Personally I don't believe it but I'm sure the truth will come out on the end. You're right, it's not the same at all. One was the media making up a load of nonsense to try and make a decent politician look seedy. The other is David Cameron fucking a pig." I think you're letting your left wing bias cloud your judgment. There is a saying that if something sounds unbelievable it usually is. Maybe you should apply a little more cynicism to what you read and here. Or even take John McDonald's advice. 'we need a kinder, gentler politics where issues are discussed but people aren't mocked' | |||
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"I suppose I'm speaking for myself here, but I think that the sort of person is fit to be Prime Minister of this country isn't someone who would willingly fuck a pig's mouth." Think again, the peple in control are sick evil individuals | |||
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"I suppose I'm speaking for myself here, but I think that the sort of person is fit to be Prime Minister of this country isn't someone who would willingly fuck a pig's mouth." I agree. I also think it'll be interesting to see if Cameron sues over libel. My guess is not. Because it's probably true. Fortunately for him, the story is so bizarre that most won't believe it. Sad to think that other politicians have been held to account and lost their jobs over putting their cocks in places where they shouldn't yet Cameron won't even have to answer for his alleged actions | |||
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"Anyone else get reminded of The National Anthem episode of Black Mirror?" Charlie Brooker comically mentioned it on Twitter, saying he didn't realise it was a documentary | |||
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"I suppose I'm speaking for myself here, but I think that the sort of person is fit to be Prime Minister of this country isn't someone who would willingly fuck a pig's mouth. I agree. I also think it'll be interesting to see if Cameron sues over libel. My guess is not. Because it's probably true. Fortunately for him, the story is so bizarre that most won't believe it. Sad to think that other politicians have been held to account and lost their jobs over putting their cocks in places where they shouldn't yet Cameron won't even have to answer for his alleged actions " Maybe his fellow porcine friendly pal at school is now a high court judge or head of the cps..... | |||
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"Read a book called "The Establishment" by Owen Jones. Paperback £8.99 or two books for £7 from Tesco You will find out what these people really get up to! Watched some interesting documentaries on YouTube about so called illuminati initiation ceremonies. They don't half get upto some strange stuff. . You don't need the illuminati, just look at what nearly all the American presidents have got upto at bohemian groove!. I feel it necessary to say that Tony Blair resisted many invites to go there! Apparently bush couldn't entice him As an American, i have heard that some crazy shit goes on there at the grove. As it is only speculation, but some of the stories are disgusting. If anyone has extra time(most do if youre always on the forums) google hollywood illuminati and you will see and read some fucked up things that go on with the rich and famous people." . Well tricky certainly didn't have anything good to say about the place! | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. " Oh ye, Dianne Abbott wasn't it? And now she's a member of the Shadow Cabinet. As someone said yesterday, apparently that is what's known as sleeping your way to the bottom | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. I really don't think it's anything like the same. Personally I don't believe it but I'm sure the truth will come out on the end. You're right, it's not the same at all. One was the media making up a load of nonsense to try and make a decent politician look seedy. The other is David Cameron fucking a pig. I think you're letting your left wing bias cloud your judgment. There is a saying that if something sounds unbelievable it usually is. Maybe you should apply a little more cynicism to what you read and here. Or even take John McDonald's advice. 'we need a kinder, gentler politics where issues are discussed but people aren't mocked'" At what point was anything said that was unbelievable? It says much about the youthful practices of the establishment that there is almost no-one who doubts this happened. In fact, you could be the only one. | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. Oh ye, Dianne Abbott wasn't it? And now she's a member of the Shadow Cabinet. As someone said yesterday, apparently that is what's known as sleeping your way to the bottom " Your hero fucked a dead pig. | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. Oh ye, Dianne Abbott wasn't it? And now she's a member of the Shadow Cabinet. As someone said yesterday, apparently that is what's known as sleeping your way to the bottom Your hero fucked a dead pig. " Only its head, surely? | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. Oh ye, Dianne Abbott wasn't it? And now she's a member of the Shadow Cabinet. As someone said yesterday, apparently that is what's known as sleeping your way to the bottom Your hero fucked a dead pig. Only its head, surely? " And he must be a hero. Ever seen the teeth on a pig? | |||
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"Funnily enough, if there was a hint that Jeremy Corbyn had done something similar, we would have at least twelve separate topics on it by now. Fab's Tories are staying very quiet on this one! " | |||
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"Funnily enough, if there was a hint that Jeremy Corbyn had done something similar, we would have at least twelve separate topics on it by now. Fab's Tories are staying very quiet on this one! " It will take a little time for the spin excuses to come to the fore..... Am I correct in thinking the prime minister has been accused of allegedly fucking a dead pigs head when he was a student? | |||
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"Oh years ago.... oh, that's ok then. " Not ok but not as PM. Student days hold some skeletons for us all I'm sure | |||
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"I'm all for having a wild past, but I think it really depends on the skeletons in question. This one...just no. Well obviously... it wouldn't be something I'd do either but I'm not some posh wanker trying to fit into some college gang. I just think that stupid stuff like this is of zero use to the running of our country. I don't think he's much use either right enough but there are bigger fish to fry than whether he stuck his know in the mouth of anything. Of course! But it's really only fair. Last week the Mail and Telegraph were filled with the revelations that Jeremy Corbyn once had sex with a woman, so what's sauce for the goose, etc. Oh ye, Dianne Abbott wasn't it? And now she's a member of the Shadow Cabinet. As someone said yesterday, apparently that is what's known as sleeping your way to the bottom " Edwina Curry John Major .....anyone! | |||
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"The real story is why is Ashcroft willing to publish this? Who told him the story? Why is the Oakeshott woman happy to be associated with the inclusion of the story? Just saw Isobel Oakshott on newsnight talking about it. Interesting that she said she doesn't even know if it's true but she's leaving it upto the readers to decide? I'm not a fan of Cameron, I don't vote tory, but the evidence seems pretty vague, Oakshott pretty much just admitted it herself on newsnight. I always enjoy seeing Oakshott on telly though, she seems to have a permanent smile on her face even when she talks she looks like she's smiling, lol. " Which still begs the question why they decided to include it. | |||
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"The real story is why is Ashcroft willing to publish this? Who told him the story? Why is the Oakeshott woman happy to be associated with the inclusion of the story? Just saw Isobel Oakshott on newsnight talking about it. Interesting that she said she doesn't even know if it's true but she's leaving it upto the readers to decide? I'm not a fan of Cameron, I don't vote tory, but the evidence seems pretty vague, Oakshott pretty much just admitted it herself on newsnight. I always enjoy seeing Oakshott on telly though, she seems to have a permanent smile on her face even when she talks she looks like she's smiling, lol. Which still begs the question why they decided to include it. " Cos, true or not, it's a story which will follow Cameron like the smell of a bacon butty for years. | |||
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"The real story is why is Ashcroft willing to publish this? Who told him the story? Why is the Oakeshott woman happy to be associated with the inclusion of the story? Just saw Isobel Oakshott on newsnight talking about it. Interesting that she said she doesn't even know if it's true but she's leaving it upto the readers to decide? I'm not a fan of Cameron, I don't vote tory, but the evidence seems pretty vague, Oakshott pretty much just admitted it herself on newsnight. I always enjoy seeing Oakshott on telly though, she seems to have a permanent smile on her face even when she talks she looks like she's smiling, lol. Which still begs the question why they decided to include it. Cos, true or not, it's a story which will follow Cameron like the smell of a bacon butty for years." . Fuck off, it's true as true can be or Dave would have sued the fuck out of him! Or wrapped him in injunctions for years. The problem for Dave is... He's powerless, Ashcroft knows where all the Tory bodies are buried, so all he can do is bend over and take it!. | |||
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"A story like this hardly needs denying. It's so ridicules I can't believe you're all lapping it up with out even any questioning it. I don't know if there is some, none or any truth in it but I do know this is a new low in political discussion. It also high lights the total hypocrisy of those, only a few days ago, who were complaining about the personal attacks on Corbyn. Where's your high moral standing now or is it that in your book anything is fair game if the person doesn't agree with you. If you really want a new better politics then you have to make it better yourself and that starts by taking the same attitude to personal attacks on those you disagree with as you do to personal attacks those on those you do agree with. What a bunch of hypocrites you mostly all are." Hmmm.... 128 posts in twelve hours compared to how many threads in a shorter period? About half the posts are making bacon jokes and not giving the allegation much credence. Hypocrisy or people being consistent? Those that I would expect to post slating Cameron have. Those who would defend him have. Both in much smaller numbers than I have seen on other threads so there's really not enough here for me to get indignant about hypocrisy. As I said, I expect the pig to be wearing lipstick by the time to story has been told enough. | |||
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"A story like this hardly needs denying. It's so ridicules I can't believe you're all lapping it up with out even any questioning it. I don't know if there is some, none or any truth in it but I do know this is a new low in political discussion. It also high lights the total hypocrisy of those, only a few days ago, who were complaining about the personal attacks on Corbyn. Where's your high moral standing now or is it that in your book anything is fair game if the person doesn't agree with you. If you really want a new better politics then you have to make it better yourself and that starts by taking the same attitude to personal attacks on those you disagree with as you do to personal attacks those on those you do agree with. What a bunch of hypocrites you mostly all are." . A good post . A boring. story which is of no interest whatsoever unless someone can produce credible evidence that it is true. | |||
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"A story like this hardly needs denying. It's so ridicules I can't believe you're all lapping it up with out even any questioning it. I don't know if there is some, none or any truth in it but I do know this is a new low in political discussion. It also high lights the total hypocrisy of those, only a few days ago, who were complaining about the personal attacks on Corbyn. Where's your high moral standing now or is it that in your book anything is fair game if the person doesn't agree with you. If you really want a new better politics then you have to make it better yourself and that starts by taking the same attitude to personal attacks on those you disagree with as you do to personal attacks those on those you do agree with. What a bunch of hypocrites you mostly all are. Hmmm.... 128 posts in twelve hours compared to how many threads in a shorter period? About half the posts are making bacon jokes and not giving the allegation much credence. Hypocrisy or people being consistent? Those that I would expect to post slating Cameron have. Those who would defend him have. Both in much smaller numbers than I have seen on other threads so there's really not enough here for me to get indignant about hypocrisy. As I said, I expect the pig to be wearing lipstick by the time to story has been told enough. " I'm not indignant about it, just pointing out to those who cry foul about personal attacks on there favorite seem all to ready to say, believe and do anything that discredits those they don't agree with. As for consistency, while I don't agree with much, if anything, of what Corbyn says I have quite consistently said that I don't agree with the personal attacks being made against him and only his policies should be open for attack, not him. | |||
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" It also high lights the total hypocrisy of those, only a few days ago, who were complaining about the personal attacks on Corbyn. Where's your high moral standing now or is it that in your book anything is fair game if the person doesn't agree with you. Or maybe it's recognising that those who instigate and benefit from the attacks end up getting their just desserts! As, hopefully, will those who propagate them. That's why Cameron is getting it now! " I don't think this is even in the same ballpark as the personal attacks on Corbyn, which, incidentally, there is no proof have originated or propagated from Cameron or the Conservative party. Attacks on his policies, his credibility ( note I said credibility not integrity) and things he's said in the past are fair game. As for the personal attacks, I think Corbyn should look more closer to home for the source and propagation of those. But either way I condemn then and have done. If something is wrong it's wrong. Whether you like or dislike, agree or disagree with the person who the attack is directed against. That's the only consistent, moral and right attitude to take; anything else and you're just part of the on going problem with British politics. | |||
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"A story like this hardly needs denying. It's so ridicules I can't believe you're all lapping it up with out even any questioning it. I don't know if there is some, none or any truth in it but I do know this is a new low in political discussion. It also high lights the total hypocrisy of those, only a few days ago, who were complaining about the personal attacks on Corbyn. Where's your high moral standing now or is it that in your book anything is fair game if the person doesn't agree with you. If you really want a new better politics then you have to make it better yourself and that starts by taking the same attitude to personal attacks on those you disagree with as you do to personal attacks those on those you do agree with. What a bunch of hypocrites you mostly all are." | |||
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"To those who give the story little credibility, consider why Cameron hasn't sued over this. And for those of us who would like to know if it's true, it will be interesting to see if the photo of Cameron 'in action' surfaces! For those who say we all have skeletons from our student days, really???? Worst I did was have too many beers, too often. What on earth did you do? Fuck dead animals? How would you feel if asked to do so as a student? Think it funny and a bit of a jape? I'd have been horrified and revolted. I'd hope you would have too. " Why would he bother to sue over something that is nothing more than gossip? It could cost him millions and I'm sure he has better things to do. I'm not a big Cameron fan but we all do stupid things at times, especially when we are young and yes we pretty much all have skeletons in our cupboard. Who knows if the fact that you post explicit images of your genitals on the internet with graphic descriptions of what you've got up to with guys might not turn out one day to be yours? And can you be sure that you've never been secretly filmed or photographed? | |||
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"To those who give the story little credibility, consider why Cameron hasn't sued over this. And for those of us who would like to know if it's true, it will be interesting to see if the photo of Cameron 'in action' surfaces! For those who say we all have skeletons from our student days, really???? Worst I did was have too many beers, too often. What on earth did you do? Fuck dead animals? How would you feel if asked to do so as a student? Think it funny and a bit of a jape? I'd have been horrified and revolted. I'd hope you would have too. . It is usually completely pointless suing people as money is just wasted on legal fees. Why would David Cameron be in the slightest bit bothered about remarks about these . He is an exceptionally successfull person and from a good family background . I am sure that he has much more important issues to consider than remarks made by those who live in a fantasy land. Court hearings just generate more publicity. He is paid to run the country and achieved more votes than any other party. He would be letting the electorate down if he gave any thought to meaningless and irrelevant remarks " Couldn't disagree more. Would have been very easy for him to have got a court injunction and now sue, given his position. The story as a whole - not just the pig part - is starting to put his position under pressure. And many, if you read above, on social media and elsewhere, give the story more credibility than you. Will watch and wait on this whole thing: according to something else I read this morning, big guns are after after him. I find it strange he's not fighting back. And maybe, just maybe, the picture of him might appear suddenly - then we will have no doubts | |||
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"To those who give the story little credibility, consider why Cameron hasn't sued over this. And for those of us who would like to know if it's true, it will be interesting to see if the photo of Cameron 'in action' surfaces! For those who say we all have skeletons from our student days, really???? Worst I did was have too many beers, too often. What on earth did you do? Fuck dead animals? How would you feel if asked to do so as a student? Think it funny and a bit of a jape? I'd have been horrified and revolted. I'd hope you would have too. Why would he bother to sue over something that is nothing more than gossip? It could cost him millions and I'm sure he has better things to do. I'm not a big Cameron fan but we all do stupid things at times, especially when we are young and yes we pretty much all have skeletons in our cupboard. Who knows if the fact that you post explicit images of your genitals on the internet with graphic descriptions of what you've got up to with guys might not turn out one day to be yours? And can you be sure that you've never been secretly filmed or photographed? Do you remember the case of the MP (Scottish guy, if I remember) who got into all sorts of trouble over being a swinger? Or the many who got the bullet over affairs? They all had skeletons and paid for them. Yet Cameron can be seen to be fireproof. I don't understand it. Corbyn has had his name dragged through the mud since becoming Labour leader. Over much smaller stories. I'm completely flabbergasted, to be honest, that people like yourself are defending him. Have you ever indulged in necrophilia and/or bestiality? Even just as a jape? I haven't. And I can state pretty certainly that if, for example, the Head of the local comprehensive had a similar allegation made against him, he'd be (at best) suspended pending an investigation. Cameron seems immune to the normal rules. Defenders say nonsense one moment, then well, so what? We've all been young once, done silly things. So which is it? Has he not done it or do you defend it? And will the picture of him fucking the dead pig's head (rumoured to exist) change your mind? And yes, I accept that one day, if I were a top MP, having it made public knowledge that I'd been involved in swinging, I'd be likely to be under all sorts of pressure to resign. We all know that this is something that could happen. And is that comparable, in your mind, with what Cameron is alleged to have done? I'd be interested to know " I'm not sure that one alleged d*unken prank is comparable no. But if you class that as necrophilia or beastiality then what would you class eating a dead pigs head as? | |||
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"Most normal people don't defile corpses for fun. End of. They don't think it's ok to kill animals for sport. They don't laugh when discussing poverty. They don't call people swarms. They don't employ people who are useless. They don't stay in gangs after the age of 12. " | |||
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"...... Do you remember the case of the MP (Scottish guy, if I remember) who got into all sorts of trouble over being a swinger? ....... " Tommy Sheridan. Tommy's problem wasn't that he was a swinger but that he lied about it. In court. He got 3 years for perjury. | |||
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"...... Do you remember the case of the MP (Scottish guy, if I remember) who got into all sorts of trouble over being a swinger? ....... Tommy Sheridan. Tommy's problem wasn't that he was a swinger but that he lied about it. In court. He got 3 years for perjury." And why did he lie? Archer too? Because they knew that they would be ousted if they admitted the truth, I'd suggest. The thing that bothers me about this story is that, if true, it shows the complete and utter contempt those in power and born to money can show. Having been to a top public school and then to university myself, I am less inclined than most to disbelieve it. The contempt shown by some in those circles was often shocking to me. I can say with certainty several I knew would describe posters above as "peasants". I am interested in knowing Cameron's attitude to others as I suspect he will be just as haughty. A story like this fits in all too well with his type, I'd suggest | |||
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" I'ts not a case of defending Cameron, but the Pig story was told to Ashcroft by an anonymous MP who also told Ashcroft it might have been someone else! Hardly conclusive evidence, but obviously enough for you. I would apply the same criteria for actual evidence to Jeremy Corbyn, Nicola Sturgeon, et al" Isabel Oakeshot stated on C4 news they had been unable to find any corroborating evidence for the story whatsoever but had printed it anyway. This could all be an awesome feint by the Conservative Party because while everyone is discussing the pig's head, no one is talking about more credible allegations like when DC knew about Lord Ashcroft's dubious non-dom status. However given that the book is basically prefaced "I donated £8m and all he offered me was a poxy junior position" I'm not really inclined to take much of it particularly seriously in the first place. Same as I wouldn't take talk of JC's womanising ways in the Mail too seriously either. | |||
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"Most normal people don't defile corpses for fun. End of. They don't think it's ok to kill animals for sport. They don't laugh when discussing poverty. They don't call people swarms. They don't employ people who are useless. They don't stay in gangs after the age of 12. " . I have never heard anyone laugh when discussing poverty. Why would anyone do that?. Who has ever called anyone swarms ?. I am unaware of him employing useless people . If this were the case his party would not have won the recent election. | |||
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"...... Do you remember the case of the MP (Scottish guy, if I remember) who got into all sorts of trouble over being a swinger? ....... Tommy Sheridan. Tommy's problem wasn't that he was a swinger but that he lied about it. In court. He got 3 years for perjury. And why did he lie? Archer too? Because they knew that they would be ousted if they admitted the truth, I'd suggest. ....... " Tommy lied 1) cos that's what Tommy does. He's a lying toerag and 2) cos Gail would have killed him had he admitted it. | |||
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"Most normal people don't defile corpses for fun. End of. They don't think it's ok to kill animals for sport. They don't laugh when discussing poverty. They don't call people swarms. They don't employ people who are useless. They don't stay in gangs after the age of 12. . I have never heard anyone laugh when discussing poverty. Why would anyone do that?. Who has ever called anyone swarms ?. I am unaware of him employing useless people . If this were the case his party would not have won the recent election. " Haha. No your last line explains everything. | |||
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" I'ts not a case of defending Cameron, but the Pig story was told to Ashcroft by an anonymous MP who also told Ashcroft it might have been someone else! Hardly conclusive evidence, but obviously enough for you. I would apply the same criteria for actual evidence to Jeremy Corbyn, Nicola Sturgeon, et al Isabel Oakeshot stated on C4 news they had been unable to find any corroborating evidence for the story whatsoever but had printed it anyway. This could all be an awesome feint by the Conservative Party because while everyone is discussing the pig's head, no one is talking about more credible allegations like when DC knew about Lord Ashcroft's dubious non-dom status. However given that the book is basically prefaced "I donated £8m and all he offered me was a poxy junior position" I'm not really inclined to take much of it particularly seriously in the first place. Same as I wouldn't take talk of JC's womanising ways in the Mail too seriously either. " The main difference being that JC's 'womanising ways' were him having a completely normal relationship with a woman, and David Cameron put his cock in a pig's mouth. | |||
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" I'ts not a case of defending Cameron, but the Pig story was told to Ashcroft by an anonymous MP who also told Ashcroft it might have been someone else! Hardly conclusive evidence, but obviously enough for you. I would apply the same criteria for actual evidence to Jeremy Corbyn, Nicola Sturgeon, et al Isabel Oakeshot stated on C4 news they had been unable to find any corroborating evidence for the story whatsoever but had printed it anyway. This could all be an awesome feint by the Conservative Party because while everyone is discussing the pig's head, no one is talking about more credible allegations like when DC knew about Lord Ashcroft's dubious non-dom status. However given that the book is basically prefaced "I donated £8m and all he offered me was a poxy junior position" I'm not really inclined to take much of it particularly seriously in the first place. Same as I wouldn't take talk of JC's womanising ways in the Mail too seriously either. " . Print and be dammed | |||
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"Most normal people don't defile corpses for fun. End of. They don't think it's ok to kill animals for sport. They don't laugh when discussing poverty. They don't call people swarms. They don't employ people who are useless. They don't stay in gangs after the age of 12. . I have never heard anyone laugh when discussing poverty. Why would anyone do that?. Who has ever called anyone swarms ?. I am unaware of him employing useless people . If this were the case his party would not have won the recent election. " Pat dont hold your head in the sand for too long, its dangerous.. | |||
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" I'ts not a case of defending Cameron, but the Pig story was told to Ashcroft by an anonymous MP who also told Ashcroft it might have been someone else! Hardly conclusive evidence, but obviously enough for you. I would apply the same criteria for actual evidence to Jeremy Corbyn, Nicola Sturgeon, et al Isabel Oakeshot stated on C4 news they had been unable to find any corroborating evidence for the story whatsoever but had printed it anyway. This could all be an awesome feint by the Conservative Party because while everyone is discussing the pig's head, no one is talking about more credible allegations like when DC knew about Lord Ashcroft's dubious non-dom status. However given that the book is basically prefaced "I donated £8m and all he offered me was a poxy junior position" I'm not really inclined to take much of it particularly seriously in the first place. Same as I wouldn't take talk of JC's womanising ways in the Mail too seriously either. The main difference being that JC's 'womanising ways' were him having a completely normal relationship with a woman, and David Cameron put his cock in a pig's mouth. " You HOPE he put his cock in a pig's mouth...and there in lies the difference between us. I don't hate Corbyn, couldn't care less who he has had affairs with..it has nothing to do with his politics. You are a hater..you are so desperate to hate Cameron you abandon any critical faculty regards evidence. Sad really. | |||
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"To those who give the story little credibility, consider why Cameron hasn't sued over this. And for those of us who would like to know if it's true, it will be interesting to see if the photo of Cameron 'in action' surfaces! For those who say we all have skeletons from our student days, really???? Worst I did was have too many beers, too often. What on earth did you do? Fuck dead animals? How would you feel if asked to do so as a student? Think it funny and a bit of a jape? I'd have been horrified and revolted. I'd hope you would have too. Why would he bother to sue over something that is nothing more than gossip? It could cost him millions and I'm sure he has better things to do. I'm not a big Cameron fan but we all do stupid things at times, especially when we are young and yes we pretty much all have skeletons in our cupboard. Who knows if the fact that you post explicit images of your genitals on the internet with graphic descriptions of what you've got up to with guys might not turn out one day to be yours? And can you be sure that you've never been secretly filmed or photographed? Do you remember the case of the MP (Scottish guy, if I remember) who got into all sorts of trouble over being a swinger? Or the many who got the bullet over affairs? They all had skeletons and paid for them. Yet Cameron can be seen to be fireproof. I don't understand it. Corbyn has had his name dragged through the mud since becoming Labour leader. Over much smaller stories. I'm completely flabbergasted, to be honest, that people like yourself are defending him. Have you ever indulged in necrophilia and/or bestiality? Even just as a jape? I haven't. And I can state pretty certainly that if, for example, the Head of the local comprehensive had a similar allegation made against him, he'd be (at best) suspended pending an investigation. Cameron seems immune to the normal rules. Defenders say nonsense one moment, then well, so what? We've all been young once, done silly things. So which is it? Has he not done it or do you defend it? And will the picture of him fucking the dead pig's head (rumoured to exist) change your mind? And yes, I accept that one day, if I were a top MP, having it made public knowledge that I'd been involved in swinging, I'd be likely to be under all sorts of pressure to resign. We all know that this is something that could happen. And is that comparable, in your mind, with what Cameron is alleged to have done? I'd be interested to know I'ts not a case of defending Cameron, but the Pig story was told to Ashcroft by an anonymous MP who also told Ashcroft it might have been someone else! Hardly conclusive evidence, but obviously enough for you. I would apply the same criteria for actual evidence to Jeremy Corbyn, Nicola Sturgeon, et al" This The attacks on Jeremy have been mostly about his policies and remarks he's made in the past and where they have not been I and others have said we don't agree with those sort of attacks. Where is the consistency of those on the left now? This is so clearly just a smear. | |||
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"A smear from the right. Big money scorned is ugly " But gleefully propagated by the left. It's funny how the two extremes often have so much in common!! | |||
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"Last week the media, including (especially) the BBC, was shouting from every available rooftop about Corbyn not singing a song. This week, despite it trending everywhere online and appearing in most of the papers, not a single word about Cameron's pig-wank-strewn Bullingdon Club shenanigans has been mentioned... hmmmm, funny that. Meanwhile, on Cameron's orders, I imagine there will be minions running about behind the scenes to find out who squealed. " For some reason you are a bit confused about the BBC, you will find that they are full of left wing luvvies and hardly supportive of the Conservatives | |||
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"Last week the media, including (especially) the BBC, was shouting from every available rooftop about Corbyn not singing a song. This week, despite it trending everywhere online and appearing in most of the papers, not a single word about Cameron's pig-wank-strewn Bullingdon Club shenanigans has been mentioned... hmmmm, funny that. Meanwhile, on Cameron's orders, I imagine there will be minions running about behind the scenes to find out who squealed. " Think you'll find, under not very severe scrutiny, that your second paragraph is oxymoronic | |||
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"Last week the media, including (especially) the BBC, was shouting from every available rooftop about Corbyn not singing a song. This week, despite it trending everywhere online and appearing in most of the papers, not a single word about Cameron's pig-wank-strewn Bullingdon Club shenanigans has been mentioned... hmmmm, funny that. Meanwhile, on Cameron's orders, I imagine there will be minions running about behind the scenes to find out who squealed. Think you'll find, under not very severe scrutiny, that your second paragraph is oxymoronic" Sorry. I assumed it would be understood that I was referring to any mention of it on the BBC. No problem though, I'll try to make my comments more easily understood by the "hard of understanding" in future - I'm all in favour or accommodating your needs in that respect. | |||
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"Last week the media, including (especially) the BBC, was shouting from every available rooftop about Corbyn not singing a song. This week, despite it trending everywhere online and appearing in most of the papers, not a single word about Cameron's pig-wank-strewn Bullingdon Club shenanigans has been mentioned... hmmmm, funny that. Meanwhile, on Cameron's orders, I imagine there will be minions running about behind the scenes to find out who squealed. For some reason you are a bit confused about the BBC, you will find that they are full of left wing luvvies and hardly supportive of the Conservatives" I doubt Alex Salmond would agree with you. | |||
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