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"Thankyou, it it was more about people finding ways to get help" My mate who is bi polar always says the first step is admitting you need help | |||
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"Thankyou, it it was more about people finding ways to get help My mate who is bi polar always says the first step is admitting you need help" not being scared of the outcome if you admit it is a big hurdle | |||
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"My aunt took her own life 5 years ago. She was 3 years older than me & left 3 children. My dad tried for years to get her help - she was sectioned God knows how many times!! - but resources are being constantly reduced & harder to access. " I agree, it is harder, but knowing the places to go may save someone's life | |||
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"I've been dealing with horrible bouts of Depression for nearly 16 years now and it never ever gets easier. Sometimes all you need is someone to talk to, or even just a hug. If any of you need someone to talk to, no matter what time it is and no matter how tough things are, just talk and I will listen. Remember, you are loved." | |||
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"My aunt took her own life 5 years ago. She was 3 years older than me & left 3 children. My dad tried for years to get her help - she was sectioned God knows how many times!! - but resources are being constantly reduced & harder to access. I agree, it is harder, but knowing the places to go may save someone's life " And that's also sometimes the problem. I know of a young lady who is 16 and get having to be put in a unit across the other side of the country because there are no services here. It's great she's getting help but it's cutting her off from her mum, siblings and friends who are her ongoing long term support. It's shocking the lack of money that goes to mental health | |||
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"Hi, sounds like a big old shit sandwich. Just like to pick up a couple of points. Mental health problems can affect around 1 in 4 people a year. It's a lot bigger than you think. This ranges from depression and anxiety problems (the most common) to suicidal thoughts and full-blown episodes. Accessing support for such services is becoming more difficult, with stretched statutory services taking only the 'most serious' cases. It's really tricky, and I don;t see it getting much better. The most important factor, I think, in someone getting well again is a support of friends and family as much as services. As a friend of mine who use to work in MH was wont to say: "We all have a touch of mental health, depends on how in touch you are with it." Essentially, it's better to talk to someone - as a sufferer or someone who is concerned or helping someone. Sorry to hear about your friend. Info to follow..." this thread was to try and give advice, so I'm more than happy to hear your points of contact | |||
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"MIND is the best place to start, for my money, but that covers most categories, I hope. " mind is also very good for family and friends of sufferers as well | |||
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"frank Bruno has just gone back in with his bipolar hope he gets well soon sorry to hear about your loss when my daughter got ill our gp was useless .. family therapy was useless and the crisis team were no help at all mental health units are few and far between and not always local staff are not trained enough either " ^ This Is my problem & experience with MH services. You really have to fight to access services. | |||
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"You really have to fight to access services. " And so sometimes it helps to have a non-statutory agency helping to advocate and access services with you. They know the ins and outs and statutory obligations, as well as being able to advise the 'laymen'. | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. " I didn't realise he was back in hospital | |||
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"You really have to fight to access services. And so sometimes it helps to have a non-statutory agency helping to advocate and access services with you. They know the ins and outs and statutory obligations, as well as being able to advise the 'laymen'." you've done good o this thread, people don't know these things. | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital" fraid so lets hope he gets out soon the problem is people are scared to admit they are sick in case they get sectioned | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital" It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it " oh, it was ruby that said he was back in | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital fraid so lets hope he gets out soon the problem is people are scared to admit they are sick in case they get sectioned" Yes ! I was so scared to admit the things I did to my doctor cos I thought I'd lose my children but thankfully my doctor is very understanding. Not everyone is as lucky as me. X | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in" he put himself back in hospital its in the news | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in he put himself back in hospital its in the news " I've just read it, he's in the best place | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in he put himself back in hospital its in the news " Bless him, hope he get gets positive publicity and awareness for it | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in he put himself back in hospital its in the news Bless him, hope he get gets positive publicity and awareness for it " this thread has turned out really well I just don't want people to be scared | |||
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"its different with my daughter as she has Aspergers too but most people just want staff to show they care I could tell you horrific things that happen in these places one woman stood up to the managers and got fired" I've seen some terrible things in them, but one thing I will never forget, in was with a professional going round mental health units assessing them for safety fromma service users point of view and I was chatting to a lady in their whom thought I was a doctor, when unexplained who in was she held my hand and just said so you understand | |||
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"hopefully very soon my daughter is being moved to a step down hospital nearer home im so proud of her" yes and so you should be, its been a very long hard battle for you. It's nine years since my last section and I don't plan on going back | |||
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"hopefully very soon my daughter is being moved to a step down hospital nearer home im so proud of heryes and so you should be, its been a very long hard battle for you. It's nine years since my last section and I don't plan on going back" thanks shes been sectioned 5 years in January | |||
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"hopefully very soon my daughter is being moved to a step down hospital nearer home im so proud of heryes and so you should be, its been a very long hard battle for you. It's nine years since my last section and I don't plan on going back thanks shes been sectioned 5 years in January " I know its been a long time I remember when it first happened | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in he put himself back in hospital its in the news Bless him, hope he get gets positive publicity and awareness for it this thread has turned out really well I just don't want people to be scared" Just coming out of hiding to say I am really really scared. After saying ciao earlier this week I drove myself to a&e half an hour away, and asked to see the mental health crisis team as I had intrusive thoughts of killing myself for months and they were becoming uncontrollable. I have untreated bipolar II and after years of avoiding the nhs it has got to the point where the dark despairing Nell is much stronger than the rational Nell. I have been referred to be assessed which could take up to 28 days, and they said I could go home if I promised not to kill myself I have gained more info from this thread than from the psychiatric nurse in a&e, who gave me 1 leaflet with a breathing excercise on it. Thanks so much for doing this.x | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in he put himself back in hospital its in the news Bless him, hope he get gets positive publicity and awareness for it this thread has turned out really well I just don't want people to be scared Just coming out of hiding to say I am really really scared. After saying ciao earlier this week I drove myself to a&e half an hour away, and asked to see the mental health crisis team as I had intrusive thoughts of killing myself for months and they were becoming uncontrollable. I have untreated bipolar II and after years of avoiding the nhs it has got to the point where the dark despairing Nell is much stronger than the rational Nell. I have been referred to be assessed which could take up to 28 days, and they said I could go home if I promised not to kill myself I have gained more info from this thread than from the psychiatric nurse in a&e, who gave me 1 leaflet with a breathing excercise on it. Thanks so much for doing this.x" I am so happy I put this thread up, I'm so sorry you are in the situation you are, do you think you will make use of the organisations Joe put up? | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in he put himself back in hospital its in the news Bless him, hope he get gets positive publicity and awareness for it this thread has turned out really well I just don't want people to be scared Just coming out of hiding to say I am really really scared. After saying ciao earlier this week I drove myself to a&e half an hour away, and asked to see the mental health crisis team as I had intrusive thoughts of killing myself for months and they were becoming uncontrollable. I have untreated bipolar II and after years of avoiding the nhs it has got to the point where the dark despairing Nell is much stronger than the rational Nell. I have been referred to be assessed which could take up to 28 days, and they said I could go home if I promised not to kill myself I have gained more info from this thread than from the psychiatric nurse in a&e, who gave me 1 leaflet with a breathing excercise on it. Thanks so much for doing this.xI am so happy I put this thread up, I'm so sorry you are in the situation you are, do you think you will make use of the organisations Joe put up?" Definitely. I'm going to start with Mind and the Bipolar one. Other fab friends have suggested a local mental health community hub for support too. Without people like you doing this I would never have known how to access any support at all. | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in he put himself back in hospital its in the news Bless him, hope he get gets positive publicity and awareness for it this thread has turned out really well I just don't want people to be scared Just coming out of hiding to say I am really really scared. After saying ciao earlier this week I drove myself to a&e half an hour away, and asked to see the mental health crisis team as I had intrusive thoughts of killing myself for months and they were becoming uncontrollable. I have untreated bipolar II and after years of avoiding the nhs it has got to the point where the dark despairing Nell is much stronger than the rational Nell. I have been referred to be assessed which could take up to 28 days, and they said I could go home if I promised not to kill myself I have gained more info from this thread than from the psychiatric nurse in a&e, who gave me 1 leaflet with a breathing excercise on it. Thanks so much for doing this.xI am so happy I put this thread up, I'm so sorry you are in the situation you are, do you think you will make use of the organisations Joe put up? Definitely. I'm going to start with Mind and the Bipolar one. Other fab friends have suggested a local mental health community hub for support too. Without people like you doing this I would never have known how to access any support at all." Nell, I just read your post & cried. I'm so glad you went for help xxx Keep fighting xxx | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in he put himself back in hospital its in the news Bless him, hope he get gets positive publicity and awareness for it this thread has turned out really well I just don't want people to be scared Just coming out of hiding to say I am really really scared. After saying ciao earlier this week I drove myself to a&e half an hour away, and asked to see the mental health crisis team as I had intrusive thoughts of killing myself for months and they were becoming uncontrollable. I have untreated bipolar II and after years of avoiding the nhs it has got to the point where the dark despairing Nell is much stronger than the rational Nell. I have been referred to be assessed which could take up to 28 days, and they said I could go home if I promised not to kill myself I have gained more info from this thread than from the psychiatric nurse in a&e, who gave me 1 leaflet with a breathing excercise on it. Thanks so much for doing this.xI am so happy I put this thread up, I'm so sorry you are in the situation you are, do you think you will make use of the organisations Joe put up? Definitely. I'm going to start with Mind and the Bipolar one. Other fab friends have suggested a local mental health community hub for support too. Without people like you doing this I would never have known how to access any support at all." both mind and bipolar are very good for family and friends of sufferers as well. I also use the bipolar foundation for alot of my information about bipolar in general, local support groups are very good we have one here and you will also get to talk to other bipolar sufferers as well, some may share the same symptoms as you, there are many types of bipolar, try and be as open and honest with exactly how it affects you. Knowing your not alone and talking about it are two major things | |||
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"Had a post come up on my Facebook about big Frank Bruno and how his suffering with his bi polar. Have had family members suffer with depression. Hats off to anyone fighting it. I didn't realise he was back in hospital It was his agent saying Franks bipolar has kicked in again recently and his struggling with it. Don't think his been hospitalized over it oh, it was ruby that said he was back in he put himself back in hospital its in the news Bless him, hope he get gets positive publicity and awareness for it this thread has turned out really well I just don't want people to be scared Just coming out of hiding to say I am really really scared. After saying ciao earlier this week I drove myself to a&e half an hour away, and asked to see the mental health crisis team as I had intrusive thoughts of killing myself for months and they were becoming uncontrollable. I have untreated bipolar II and after years of avoiding the nhs it has got to the point where the dark despairing Nell is much stronger than the rational Nell. I have been referred to be assessed which could take up to 28 days, and they said I could go home if I promised not to kill myself I have gained more info from this thread than from the psychiatric nurse in a&e, who gave me 1 leaflet with a breathing excercise on it. Thanks so much for doing this.xI am so happy I put this thread up, I'm so sorry you are in the situation you are, do you think you will make use of the organisations Joe put up? Definitely. I'm going to start with Mind and the Bipolar one. Other fab friends have suggested a local mental health community hub for support too. Without people like you doing this I would never have known how to access any support at all.both mind and bipolar are very good for family and friends of sufferers as well. I also use the bipolar foundation for alot of my information about bipolar in general, local support groups are very good we have one here and you will also get to talk to other bipolar sufferers as well, some may share the same symptoms as you, there are many types of bipolar, try and be as open and honest with exactly how it affects you. Knowing your not alone and talking about it are two major things" | |||
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"Not sure if it's been mentioned already but if you feel like that you simply can't make the time to go to therapy sessions or services. One of the newer services is online therapy and course. It's really good for therapy at your own pace and time and you get a moniter who you can call and make weekly check up phone calls with. I've found it really helpful. I'd also like to add that when you're depressed it's not your fault. You can find yourself in a hole and even though people are walking by you can't bring yourself to scream for help and that makes you sink deeper in the hole because you blame yourself. It takes courage to make the first cry. " Thanks for this post. It's incredibly helpful.x | |||
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"I know im not right at moment, been on an antidepressant med for around 5wks,think they are still building up in system as i know they need time to work ive self reffered myself for counciling had 1st contact in a phone interview,and got a face to face session in week (3wks from refferal,cant expect any better)" That's really impressive. I waited over 13 months for therapy | |||
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"I know im not right at moment, been on an antidepressant med for around 5wks,think they are still building up in system as i know they need time to work ive self reffered myself for counciling had 1st contact in a phone interview,and got a face to face session in week (3wks from refferal,cant expect any better) That's really impressive. I waited over 13 months for therapy" I think it depends on the area, the most recent person I know that's been referred for talk therapy goes to see a mental health nurse at their surgery every week until the appointment comes through | |||
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"I know im not right at moment, been on an antidepressant med for around 5wks,think they are still building up in system as i know they need time to work ive self reffered myself for counciling had 1st contact in a phone interview,and got a face to face session in week (3wks from refferal,cant expect any better) That's really impressive. I waited over 13 months for therapyI think it depends on the area, the most recent person I know that's been referred for talk therapy goes to see a mental health nurse at their surgery every week until the appointment comes through" Ye I know in some areas the waiting list is over 2 years | |||
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"I consider myself lucky that I was referred by my GP and saw a psychiatrist within a fortnight. I say lucky but being mentality ill isn't something to feel lucky about. At my lowest I couldn't help myself,I had someone who rang my GP for me. " I do think it's very much a lottery of where you live. The doctors surgery isn't my first point of contact but if I'm found having a "funny" I'm taken up and seen straight away they also see mental health patients that day, but that's those that have "history" and are already in the system | |||
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"I consider myself lucky that I was referred by my GP and saw a psychiatrist within a fortnight. I say lucky but being mentality ill isn't something to feel lucky about. At my lowest I couldn't help myself,I had someone who rang my GP for me. " That really is lucky. Some parts in London, you'd have to wait months to get seen. | |||
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"I've been dealing with schizophrenia for six years and it's still hard to open up and tell a bunch of strangers on a forum. What I've learnt is to take ownership of your mental health problem. Work out your triggers and when you are most at risk. If your having a hard day it ok to put your health first and take time out. Talk to friends and loved ones if things are getting to much or you think that something is wrong. Eat healthy, sleep is also very important and so are meds. Most of all understand that your mental health problem is just part of you, it's not the whole of you. At first I received help from a community mental health team. It was pretty hit and miss as to how helpful they were. One of my triggers is getting too excited, so I found Christmas time hard to deal with. I was told just don't get excited then after that I didn't go back. " bloody good for you, I'm all about ownership and understanding your illness to the best of your ability | |||
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"I consider myself lucky that I was referred by my GP and saw a psychiatrist within a fortnight. I say lucky but being mentality ill isn't something to feel lucky about. At my lowest I couldn't help myself,I had someone who rang my GP for me. That really is lucky. Some parts in London, you'd have to wait months to get seen." I was pretty bad to be honest. I think you have to hit rock bottom before they move you up the list. | |||
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"I've been dealing with schizophrenia for six years...... ....At first I received help from a community mental health team. " I'm glad you managed to get some help. My brother was diagnosed "schizophrenic with psychopathic tendencies" 35 years ago after some extremely violent incidents. Hes been away for 20 years. It runs in the family as my aunt had a habit of escaping the local hospital and walking in to sea. I'm ok, a bit jekyll and hyde ha ha so lucky really. Its a difficult illness to deal with as the signs are harder to detect. Lifes funny though, a young lad I've known all his life suffered with severe depression. He hung himself twice and failed. He later tombestoned off our local pier and paralysed himself from the waist down. He travels round schools now warning kids of the dangers of tombstoning and is training hard for the 2016 paralympic basketball team with a new lease of life | |||
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"I've been dealing with schizophrenia for six years and it's still hard to open up and tell a bunch of strangers on a forum. What I've learnt is to take ownership of your mental health problem. Work out your triggers and when you are most at risk. If your having a hard day it ok to put your health first and take time out. Talk to friends and loved ones if things are getting to much or you think that something is wrong. Eat healthy, sleep is also very important and so are meds. Most of all understand that your mental health problem is just part of you, it's not the whole of you. At first I received help from a community mental health team. It was pretty hit and miss as to how helpful they were. One of my triggers is getting too excited, so I found Christmas time hard to deal with. I was told just don't get excited then after that I didn't go back. bloody good for you, I'm all about ownership and understanding your illness to the best of your ability " Big Thank you and sorry very for your loss. X Doctors, health teams, friends and family all play a very large roll in support but at the end of the day it's your head and you have to take control of it and help yourself the best you can. | |||
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"I've been dealing with schizophrenia for six years and it's still hard to open up and tell a bunch of strangers on a forum. What I've learnt is to take ownership of your mental health problem. Work out your triggers and when you are most at risk. If your having a hard day it ok to put your health first and take time out. Talk to friends and loved ones if things are getting to much or you think that something is wrong. Eat healthy, sleep is also very important and so are meds. Most of all understand that your mental health problem is just part of you, it's not the whole of you. At first I received help from a community mental health team. It was pretty hit and miss as to how helpful they were. One of my triggers is getting too excited, so I found Christmas time hard to deal with. I was told just don't get excited then after that I didn't go back. bloody good for you, I'm all about ownership and understanding your illness to the best of your ability Big Thank you and sorry very for your loss. X Doctors, health teams, friends and family all play a very large roll in support but at the end of the day it's your head and you have to take control of it and help yourself the best you can. " couldnt have pit it better myself, I have all that network and the medication I'm on is really good these days but someone did remind me that it was me that was doing all the hard work | |||
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"I've been dealing with schizophrenia for six years...... ....At first I received help from a community mental health team. I'm glad you managed to get some help. My brother was diagnosed "schizophrenic with psychopathic tendencies" 35 years ago after some extremely violent incidents. Hes been away for 20 years. It runs in the family as my aunt had a habit of escaping the local hospital and walking in to sea. I'm ok, a bit jekyll and hyde ha ha so lucky really. Its a difficult illness to deal with as the signs are harder to detect. Lifes funny though, a young lad I've known all his life suffered with severe depression. He hung himself twice and failed. He later tombestoned off our local pier and paralysed himself from the waist down. He travels round schools now warning kids of the dangers of tombstoning and is training hard for the 2016 paralympic basketball team with a new lease of life " Sorry to hear about your brother, my aunt also has it and has been put in a home for her own safety. Know what you mean about being Jekyll and Hyde tho, all good fun. I used to get up to alsort of strange stuff before I got a grip of things, my life was something like the dave trueman show. But now I can sort out what is fact and fiction and life is pretty boring and normal, well most of the time. | |||
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"i think mental health issues are less scary to us now - people are more aware and its talked about whereas it used to be shoved under the rug - " a lot of people have opened up on this thread I hope its been beneficial | |||
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"a lot of people have opened up on this thread I hope its been beneficial" Sharing serious information should help at least one person I'd hope | |||
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"We are capable of developing some for of a mental illness, it doesn't mean we are weak. My partner died in march, suffering from 5 open heart operations, yes she was a little manic. Anyway the question was asked to me "do you think she was hyper. " no I said my partner was my partner. Lovely" nothing would ever get invented if people didnt have a bit of mania in them | |||
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"We are capable of developing some for of a mental illness, it doesn't mean we are weak. My partner died in march, suffering from 5 open heart operations, yes she was a little manic. Anyway the question was asked to me "do you think she was hyper. " no I said my partner was my partner. Lovelynothing would ever get invented if people didnt have a bit of mania in them" Wow so True its just like the mad world | |||
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"What saddens me is people who think mental illness is something you can snap out of. The includes people who are affected by it. They won't get help and won't take any drugs. Would they do the same if they thought they had cancer? I doubt it. It is a real illness, not some kind of weakness. In many cases it can be fixed too. Another thing to know is that the Samaritans are not just there for suicidal feelings. They will help you work through any bad feelings. I've had dealings with 2 crisis teams, in 2 different places, for 2 different people. It seems to be pot luck if they are any good. One of them was wonderful, the other crap " Yeah I agree, its like saying to someone with a broken leg "well have you ever tried just not having a broken leg?" Or try saying to a diabetic who has to take insulin "oh its not healthy to take medication every day for the rest of your life." | |||
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