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"Children I can understand but why can't you make fun of people with disabilities????" jorden will love all this .,, as will get her in the papers and she can slag them all off for doing that and maybe come out looking good ...... she maybe even planned it i know i would put nothing passed that woman ..... its not right them making fun of her son ,,, but she will mike that for all she is worth you see. jo x | |||
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"Children I can understand but why can't you make fun of people with disabilities???? jorden will love all this .,, as will get her in the papers and she can slag them all off for doing that and maybe come out looking good ...... she maybe even planned it i know i would put nothing passed that woman ..... its not right them making fun of her son ,,, but she will mike that for all she is worth you see. jo x" Not sure why you 'qouted' my post...yours doesn't answer it | |||
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"Children I can understand but why can't you make fun Not sure why you 'qouted' my post...yours doesn't answer it " Do you have children ?? well i do and if this was my son i would go mad ......... may even take them to court .. jo x | |||
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"I said...I understand it's not right to 'attack' children in comedy!...but people with disabilities - no problem." I may have read it wrong ...... No one has the right to make fun of him its bad tast and thay should know better ... | |||
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"if katie price is so worried about her "vulnerable" son maybe she should quit tarting around the world and look after him?she has sold every detail of her life to date.as for harvey,i doubt hes heard of franke boyle!" That is NOT the point!!! it's not a matter of who the parents are. How the hell would you feel if it was your child being ridiculed?? . | |||
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"he can rip the piss out of Jordan as much as he likes. Yes she has sold her story many times over... but that does not justify comment. it was beneath contempt. He is a disabled child... DISABLED child who faces many challenges in his life and MOCKING him in any way is lower than low can be......" Thank you Garry xxxx | |||
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"wouldnt give a damn!have known several severely disabled people in my life. some have been good,some bad,one was an absolute c**t, however,they all had a great sense of humour and more importantly,like all decent people they could laugh at themselves." fair enough - that is people you knew personally. and presumably they were adults!!! Attacking a defenseless child is not on - no matter if a disability is there or not!!!! | |||
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"get a grip everyone!the only bad jokes are unfunny ones.everyone and everything should be a target in comedy. for example,i cant stand jim davidson,not because hes racist but because hes an unfunny prick! if you start picking topics that are sacrosanct where do you draw the line?" I disagree with you totally. Too many people take licence to be as tactless and tasteless as they like and use the ' comedy is an art' argument to get out of responsibility. They also use the pushing the boundary argument to the same effect. This is where the area is very grey. Boudaries need to be pushed but the harm and consequences and all parties involved should be thought of first. A joke circulating some years ago when Michael Jackson was accused of molestation went along the lines of Whatever you say the radio would play. The punch line being I had to break to avoid them and i shouted 'fucking kids' A michael jackson record came on. I asked when did child rape become acceptable and funny. A whole debate ensued using arguements mentioned above and also the ' humour is used to diffuse our tension about subjects that are too painful to bare.' I listened to the arguments then made very distasteful jokes about peoples grandchildren by name. Suddenly no one thought pedophilia to be amusing. Some even got angry with me. Gosh. Seems it's funny if you are laughing at others but not if it's about you and yours. I can handle most jokes but never any about child abuse. It's just NOT funny. Not ever. Using lines like 'Get a Grip' doesn't really further your argument nor is it likely to make people think. I can't stop jokes about child abuse but I can refuse to laugh - and I do. | |||
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"if katie price is so worried about her "vulnerable" son maybe she should quit tarting around the world and look after him?she has sold every detail of her life to date.as for harvey,i doubt hes heard of franke boyle!" She doesn't 'Tart around the World' she makes a living. | |||
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"My problem with this is not that its against a race in whole, or all disabled children in general, or all germans, etc etc it was aimed at ONE defenceless disabled child ! If he aimed it at fat / thin / tall etc people we can all live with that and probably laugh! But get the point .... It was at one child !! Mrs Fun" "get the point"??? what if it was your child????? | |||
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"where do you draw the line?" You asked us where we draw the line. I told you where I draw the line. You can laugh at anything you like. I choose not to laugh at disabled children. as always it is about choice. | |||
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"My problem with this is not that its against a race in whole, or all disabled children in general, or all germans, etc etc it was aimed at ONE defenceless disabled child ! If he aimed it at fat / thin / tall etc people we can all live with that and probably laugh! But get the point .... It was at one child !! Mrs Fun "get the point"??? what if it was your child?????" You mis- read what I meant!! That;s what I mean its against a child that was singled out. And I know how it would feel if it was my child thank you very much | |||
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"My problem with this is not that its against a race in whole, or all disabled children in general, or all germans, etc etc it was aimed at ONE defenceless disabled child ! If he aimed it at fat / thin / tall etc people we can all live with that and probably laugh! But get the point .... It was at one child !! Mrs Fun "get the point"??? what if it was your child????? You mis- read what I meant!! That;s what I mean its against a child that was singled out. And I know how it would feel if it was my child thank you very much" re-read ypour post and I admit I got it wrong. I apologise x | |||
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"I think Frankie Boyle is one of the funniest Comedians around at the moment, theres warnings before the shows goes out so if it offends dont watch it. Frankie Boyle is 5 Star Act and all the whingers are just Father F*ckers! Mr Fun " WTF???? your father wisnae that good!!! | |||
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"My problem with this is not that its against a race in whole, or all disabled children in general, or all germans, etc etc it was aimed at ONE defenceless disabled child ! If he aimed it at fat / thin / tall etc people we can all live with that and probably laugh! But get the point .... It was at one child !! Mrs Fun "get the point"??? what if it was your child????? You mis- read what I meant!! That;s what I mean its against a child that was singled out. And I know how it would feel if it was my child thank you very much re-read ypour post and I admit I got it wrong. I apologise x" Its OK no probs, the OP toppic has got everyone wound up (apart from Mr Fun!) | |||
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"I think Frankie Boyle is one of the funniest Comedians around at the moment, theres warnings before the shows goes out so if it offends dont watch it. Frankie Boyle is 5 Star Act and all the whingers are just Father F*ckers! Mr Fun WTF???? your father wisnae that good!!!" Aye, so Ive heard | |||
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"protest by not laughing.that is your right.but dont tell me which subjects are acceptable for humour and which are not. if i laugh at a joke about paedophilia it does not mean i condone the act itself. weve probably all laughed at crappy irish jokes in our time.that does not mean i accept racism as a way of life. nor does what i laugh at define my character.it is no more or less that what feels funny at that moment in time. if we start censoring the jokes we tell which catergories do we cut out?which will be next? first the jokes,then porn,then..... go back to your daily mails and prepare for the grave!" What a strange thing to say. What you laugh at DOES define your character. Not totally but it's a very good insight. | |||
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"iconic,you have a nerve saying i have no decency because i laugh at "sick" jokes.dont judge someone you dont know. how would you like your whole character to be judged on one aspect of your life? grannycrumpet,after browsing the forums you seem to have a fairly pointless opinion on everything! i suspect you read the daily mail and watch x-factor? " Yes I do watch the X factor and no I don't read the daily mail. I also have no need to insult others at any time for any reason. Insults are very easy. Feel free to carry on. | |||
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"yousay my character is partly defined by my laughing at thisjoke granny? thats like me assuming youre a fat,mindless couch potato because you watch x-factor. its unfounded and insulting. " It's not a joke when the recipient is unable to answer it. And Granny is actually quite a hottie- X Factor obsession regardless | |||
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"I'm still waiting!" No answer, unforgivable to make jokes at the expense of a little lad who can't defend hinself. But i'll forgive frankie (like he gives a shit). | |||
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"Frankie boyle has always been controversial and is well known for it!! So the question is, if you dont like then dont watch!! Simples!! " very well said,,, # dont like it,dont feckin watch/listen to it,,,,and as an irish man married to an english woman we hear some snide jokes still,so close the ears or speak up,lol,,, by the way the bow and attow arrives monday morn,,,grrrr | |||
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"Comedy is taking the piss,either out of other people,yourself or something,i think the people that laugh at the jokes are worse than the comadians,they are only doing what we the public want and pay them to do" 'Laughing' is very closely associated with fear. Apes will appear to 'laugh' when stressed...it's a natural reaction, in humans, to laugh, not only at things that are funny, but also disturbing. | |||
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"wyrdsis.there you go again saying its not funny because of who its about. feel free to be offended but dont tell me its not funny.i'll laugh at what i want to and deal with my own concience thankyou." Did I say you couldn't laugh? No- you chose to assume that. | |||
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"It's no more acceptable for frankie to make a living off jokes aimed at the helpless as it is for that child's mother to allow a camera to follow him around for the entertainment of others.....seems to me she is just as guilty of exploiting his disability for financial gain and I find her sudden defence a little ironic. If she wants to put herself in the spotlight, her choice. Her kids have that right taken from them....I would imagine what frankie has done is highlighted the negative response to her actions. If the child wasn't so much in the public eye, he couldn't have told the joke as no one would know anything about him to understand it. The finger that points needs to do a u turn " if 20 years ago that same joke was told,,,i wonder would the same people be hurt by its punchline now,,, no is the ansewer,,, 9waits for the grief from that,,and my spelling) | |||
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"I do think that Frankie has become a caricature of himself.He used to be very very funny but then he realised that people liked him because he was very close to the bone and now all he does is dilliberately try to shock and the comedy element second.His new show is pants.Give it up Frankie and go back to comedy. " Thats f*****g rich from some one who earlier wanted to suicide bomb the X factor progrsamme and then offer a grovelling apologies on site...get your brain together man for f**ks sake | |||
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"I do think that Frankie has become a caricature of himself.He used to be very very funny but then he realised that people liked him because he was very close to the bone and now all he does is dilliberately try to shock and the comedy element second.His new show is pants.Give it up Frankie and go back to comedy. Thats f*****g rich from some one who earlier wanted to suicide bomb the X factor progrsamme and then offer a grovelling apologies on site...get your brain together man for f**ks sake " Who cares about a jock that only other jocks can understand anyway. | |||
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"I do think that Frankie has become a caricature of himself.He used to be very very funny but then he realised that people liked him because he was very close to the bone and now all he does is dilliberately try to shock and the comedy element second.His new show is pants.Give it up Frankie and go back to comedy. You may wish to explain ....Im not sure what you mean by the "Jock" reference there ....some thing you may expand on perhaps ??? Thats f*****g rich from some one who earlier wanted to suicide bomb the X factor progrsamme and then offer a grovelling apologies on site...get your brain together man for f**ks sake Who cares about a jock that only other jocks can understand anyway. " | |||
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"wyrdsis.there you go again saying its not funny because of who its about. feel free to be offended but dont tell me its not funny.i'll laugh at what i want to and deal with my own concience thankyou." Then I hope you can sit there happy in the knowledge that you find disability, and sexual abuse involving a child funny. I for one cannot see any humour whatsoever in it. I had read over and over what the comedian said, I still cant find the humour in it. I find it abhorrent. And all this talk about Katie Price and how awful she is, and just because she's put her whole life in the limelight that she deserves this kind of crap levelled at her and her family, its bloody ridiculous. Granted she is not the warmest character out there, but shes not sitting on her arse claiming benefits is she, and shes out there, making as much money as she can with the attributes she has. She knows her modelling days are in their twilight period now, shes marketing herself brilliantly I think. Yea shes conceited, whats made her that way though - we have, we, the general public bought into Jordan, every inch of her. Sick jokes regarding herself and her child are lower than low, you ought to be ashamed that you find it funny | |||
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"Children I can understand but why can't you make fun of people with disabilities???? jorden will love all this .,, as will get her in the papers and she can slag them all off for doing that and maybe come out looking good ...... she maybe even planned it i know i would put nothing passed that woman ..... its not right them making fun of her son ,,, but she will mike that for all she is worth you see. jo x" For what it's worth, your breasts are much nicer than Jordan's.. | |||
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"Please pick on Granny- please, please " Granny no one dear pick on you i would be after them too and you dont see that to much here , lol | |||
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"Please pick on Granny- please, please Granny no one dear pick on you i would be after them too and you dont see that to much here , lol" Thanks Jo xx ha xx You are sweet. I stopped responding to this thread ages ago. Been reading it tho. x x | |||
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"Mwah View. You look lovely this morning x " bless , it's my sensitive look | |||
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"I have lots of constructive things to say, but what would be the point to you. Your earlier complaint about me what that I judged you on one aspect of your personality and that I didnt know you. That is correct. I dont know you, I can only go on the sentences you post on here. We can all laugh at stereotypes of different races etc, we can laugh at dumb blonde jokes, we can all see a little humour in that. But I fail to see the joke in this instance. I fail to see how someone would find it even slightly amusing. " No you cannot laugh at dumb blonde jokes Feebs. NO ...noooooooooooo no no noooooooo no .... | |||
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"I have lots of constructive things to say, but what would be the point to you. Your earlier complaint about me what that I judged you on one aspect of your personality and that I didnt know you. That is correct. I dont know you, I can only go on the sentences you post on here. We can all laugh at stereotypes of different races etc, we can laugh at dumb blonde jokes, we can all see a little humour in that. But I fail to see the joke in this instance. I fail to see how someone would find it even slightly amusing. No you cannot laugh at dumb blonde jokes Feebs. NO ...noooooooooooo no no noooooooo no .... " Lol sorry Granny, in my defence I dont actually laugh at dumb blonde jokes as I dont find them funny (never been good at laughing at myself) | |||
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"I don't understand why everyone is getting so pent up over this, your person opinions really don't and won't matter. I always read posts on this forum but rarely reply as I feel 99% of them end up as a slanging match between what I can make out to be the "forum regulars" and any bugger who dares to cross them. I went to see frankie boyle last week and I have always been a big fan of his. He used that particular joke as part of his sketch and I found it to be a very desperate joke to raise a laugh, but you have to ask yourself one question.. Would he even know her sons name if she didnt parade her kids around like accessories? regardless it dosent make what he said right but I think she has to accept some responsibility as their mother and putting them on her tv shows which I now hear shes going to stop doing, maybe this has made her realise. There are plenty of more famous people out there who's kids names we don't know. She should never Have allowed the media to attack them. but where there's money to be Made she will be there. I don't agree with what he said and wanted the ground to open up and swallow me and I think the oTher 5000 did however we all paid to see him. I won't be going again tho his support act was funnier than he was. Fab stop fighting with eachother and spread the love Han x" It's unfortunate that you chose to creat a group known as forum regulars ( which doesn't exist ) and a sole contributor known as ' any other bugger who dares to cross them' I stopped contributing to this thread when one person used their every contribution to heap personal insult on whoever they responded to. I saw others stating their opinions or just trying to bat the person off. This persons opinions did not 'cross' any potential existant group. It was individuals responding to the insults levied at them. I don't know if im a prolific contributor or not. I respond when I feel like it. I am not a member of any group 'perceived' or otherwise. I am an individual sitting at an individual screen tapping buttons n wiggling my mouse now n then. As is EVERYBODY else. | |||
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"So Frankie Boyle has gone and upset Jordan aka Katie Price, with a bad taste joke about her son Harvey on his channel 4 show. This joke also appears in his new live stand up dvd which ive watched recently. I cannot stand Jordan as she is happy to have her whole life be filmed for her crap tv show. But i do think Frankie Boyle has gone too far with this joke. I think adults are fair game for jokes within reason, but to make jokes about a disabled kid is below the belt, regardless of who his mother is. In fact, i found most of his new live stand up dvd not really that funny, and found most of it to be recycled onto his new channel 4 show. And this from a fan who only watched mock the week because of him being on it. " What was the joke? I'd like to know if I laugh or not before commenting. | |||
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"I don't know the joke either. But i did read that jordan called boyle vile. has she looked in a mirror lately?" Ive heard it now. apart from anything else it's not very funny. Bit over the top maybe but i've heard katie price say some stupid/offensive things on tv too | |||
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"So Frankie Boyle has gone and upset Jordan aka Katie Price, with a bad taste joke about her son Harvey on his channel 4 show. This joke also appears in his new live stand up dvd which ive watched recently. I cannot stand Jordan as she is happy to have her whole life be filmed for her crap tv show. But i do think Frankie Boyle has gone too far with this joke. I think adults are fair game for jokes within reason, but to make jokes about a disabled kid is below the belt, regardless of who his mother is. In fact, i found most of his new live stand up dvd not really that funny, and found most of it to be recycled onto his new channel 4 show. And this from a fan who only watched mock the week because of him being on it. " Feel exactly the same, got it for christmas present, would'nt even gift it to someone in a car boot sale, just glad there are other new comedians that are far better these days, Kev Bridges, Micky Flanagan, Lee Evans has me in stitches all the time too. | |||
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