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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

A lot of Swedish organisations are moving to 6 hour working days, including some Toyota places. Employee retention up, organisations say they can attract the best staff and staff say they're happier, healthier and enjoying their lives more. Plus a lot of organisations have increased profits, finding staff are more motivated, not just spending time waiting for 5pm etc, and to ensure their face time is acceptable.

How would you handle it? Is it better to get fuller employment, the state playing less people who're unemployed and would you work better if you were on site for less hours (assuming you're site based)? If you were on site for less hours but more productive, would you expect not to take an equivalent pay cut percentage wise, compared to your cut in hours?

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'm not in a full time job - hey, I'm a student. But after working previously, I have seen too much emphasis on face time and people not having a good work/life balance.

I think it would be good to have more people in work and can see some great things from this Swedish experiment. (Shag - consider going home?).

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Ah.

But if less is more, just think how much MORE more will be.

Hmm?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"A lot of Swedish organisations are moving to 6 hour working days, including some Toyota places. Employee retention up, organisations say they can attract the best staff and staff say they're happier, healthier and enjoying their lives more. Plus a lot of organisations have increased profits, finding staff are more motivated, not just spending time waiting for 5pm etc, and to ensure their face time is acceptable.

How would you handle it? Is it better to get fuller employment, the state playing less people who're unemployed and would you work better if you were on site for less hours (assuming you're site based)? If you were on site for less hours but more productive, would you expect not to take an equivalent pay cut percentage wise, compared to your cut in hours? "

I used to work for Toyota many years ago and they were progressive in their attitude to work even then.

I think a six hour working day would be great or a three day week maybe. I am semi retired and am much more productive when I do work but I'm fortunate enough to be able to earn less than I used to and still live adequately. I'm not sure if it would lead to fuller employment or not because in my experience its expected that the same amount of work is done in fewer hours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I took a pretty big pay cut to work 30 hrs instead of 37 hours week in the office .. However I also no longer take work home or spend half my life hating my job. My work life balance is better as a result and the pay cut was worth it.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I worked at Toyota Burnaston in the 90's. The canteen was only second to being on a cruise ship.

*courtesy of the useless information department*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldn't be helpful to me as I'd have to increase my pub shifts to make up for the decrease in day job wage so no thanks

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Wouldn't be helpful to me as I'd have to increase my pub shifts to make up for the decrease in day job wage so no thanks "

In Sweden some salaries have increased, due to higher productivity and profits. So potentially not much of a cut in total wage, at the gain of extra free time.

I think a lot of us now aren't earning much differently to what we need to live on. This means that we don't have much room to manoeuvre, should some part of our income fall. But it's probably the lower paid amongst us who could benefit most from increased free time from our main jobs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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I'm not sure if it would lead to fuller employment or not because in my experience its expected that the same amount of work is done in fewer hours."

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By *-ManMan
over a year ago

Kark


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I'm not sure if it would lead to fuller employment or not because in my experience its expected that the same amount of work is done in fewer hours.

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I do the 3 day a week shift, it's long but the time off makes it worth while.

There's a accreditation thing the top companies are doing now, it's not a single employee ever works more then 60 hours in a week.

And I think it's VW where you can only be contacted within 20 mins of clocking out and 30 mins before clocking in

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By *eKoopleCouple
over a year ago

Germany / Manchester

For those who want the actual facts, lookup the 'Working Time Directive'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A lot of Swedish organisations are moving to 6 hour working days, including some Toyota places. Employee retention up, organisations say they can attract the best staff and staff say they're happier, healthier and enjoying their lives more. Plus a lot of organisations have increased profits, finding staff are more motivated, not just spending time waiting for 5pm etc, and to ensure their face time is acceptable.

How would you handle it? Is it better to get fuller employment, the state playing less people who're unemployed and would you work better if you were on site for less hours (assuming you're site based)? If you were on site for less hours but more productive, would you expect not to take an equivalent pay cut percentage wise, compared to your cut in hours? "

Are they adding a day though?

Cause I personally prefer to work linger hours and have more days off. 9 hour days at get me working 4 days a week.

If next year they bring in the 12 hour days I will only have to work 3 days a week which for me would be much much better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've always thought full time work takes up too much of our lives. Especially in nice weather when there's so much more you could be doing.

They could even solve the jobs crisis by letting people work less hours than this, so that others have the chance to gain employment. If being employed is the goal of humanity.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

For the last 20 years I've been in a job in which my working day was 6.45 hours. Anything over that was taken as time off in lieu.

It meant in reality six weeks off a year in addition to six weeks annual leave and 12 privilege days: our work life balance is pretty good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wouldn't be helpful to me as I'd have to increase my pub shifts to make up for the decrease in day job wage so no thanks

In Sweden some salaries have increased, due to higher productivity and profits. So potentially not much of a cut in total wage, at the gain of extra free time.

I think a lot of us now aren't earning much differently to what we need to live on. This means that we don't have much room to manoeuvre, should some part of our income fall. But it's probably the lower paid amongst us who could benefit most from increased free time from our main jobs. "

That however would depend on the job; a factory yes but not so much in a place like a shop or a college as they are reliant on people coming in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just remembered, this is pretty much what they said industrialisation and advanced technology would do, lessen our working hours, but that never happened, we just increased output.

Nice if it caught on really, as it should have done decades ago.

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