FabSwingers.com forum: Can I ask a question?

By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I got pulled up by a colleague who advised me that I was was offending her as a Christian as I was having a conversation with another colleague where I said "oh god that's awful" she advised me that I'm using the lords name in vain...I'm slightly confused and not here to offend anyone...

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By *ighland_RoseCouple
over a year ago

Brigadoon

I'd advise her not to listen to other people's conversations if she is so easily offended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah using the lords word in vain is offensive to many christians. It's not illegal to say it though so she can't do anything except complain really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd advise her not to listen to other people's conversations if she is so easily offended."

this definitely. Tell her to keep her nose out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She needs to get a life, I would,nt tell her you are fab she be discussed with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite simply, the problem is theirs, not yours.

Always glad to help!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put her stapler in a condom,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You weren't saying it to her so not really any of her business xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Put her stapler in a condom,"

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By *uessWhosBackAgainMan
over a year ago

London

"I'd advise her not to listen to other people's conversations if she is so easily offended."

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Just say 'oh jesus christ I am sorry!' and she'll be fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She seems a bit over sensitive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just say 'oh jesus christ I am sorry!' and she'll be fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just say 'oh jesus christ I am sorry!' and she'll be fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fart in her general direction :0)

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

Leave a butt plug, condoms lube near her desk lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All a matter of prospective and how thin skinned (Or even bloody minded the 'religious person') is. If she thinks all others must be like her that's unfair. I have a friend who is a Pagan and as she said, so many things we say all day are Christian in origin but people say them as just normal language and mean nothing by it. Good morning is a shortened form of God's morning to you (They say Merry meet I believe). The point is what you said was not INTENDED as a religious comment just a 'saying'.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Just say 'oh jesus christ I am sorry!' and she'll be fine

I did proceed to say oh god I'm sorry and then said just ignore me and quick heeled off I do have foot in mouth syndrome today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd just say it wasn't my intention to offend her. I'm not sure I'd apologise and I wouldn't have really felt like I'd done anything wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People take offence too easily nowadays. I was brought up in a christian family and agree that even though i do it, its not nice to take the lords name in vain and you never hear people say "oh my Allah!" Or "oh my Harry Krishna!" But nonetheless i think it was a slight over reaction on your colleagues behalf and as the saying goes 'people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones'.

I hope this helps. Stevie.

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By *ythenshawefredMan
over a year ago

stockport

If you're doing it all the time or having a massive rant 'oh for christ sake, this god forsaken computer is getting on my god dammed nerves' I'd say she is over sensitive especially as she is earwigging anyway

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Christian be buggered..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a massively over sensitive reaction on her part . She needs to get a grasp of reality and you can help her by taking her to one side and telling her she is going to find it hard to mix with such a pious attitude .

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Its work, just try to avoid her, things said in jest tend to sound a lot less funny when repeated to HR. As you didnt do it to intentionally offend her, tell her so, apologise, and call her all the names under the sun in your head and know you are the bigger person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I got pulled up by a colleague who advised me that I was was offending her as a Christian as I was having a conversation with another colleague where I said "oh god that's awful" she advised me that I'm using the lords name in vain...I'm slightly confused and not here to offend anyone...

I would say that it is commonly misused and she needs to get over herself.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I've been told off for blaspheming at work. Now I just say 'oh fuck that's awful' instead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd tell her she was offending me by pushing her beliefs on me

she's a Christian so chooses not to take the Lords name I vain

I'm not and I sometimes choose to

its as simple as that in my eyes

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I apologised probably really badly lol....I just sometimes think before I speak..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A colleague of mine had something similar because someone presumed she was muslim and they felt her office wear was in her words disgusting.

(she wore knee length skirts and only ever showed a small amount of clevage)

Long story short after a few run ins thr offended party was diciplined by HR....

Saying oh god is just a turn of phrase these. aif your religious and it bothers you then maybe you shpuld just accept it for what it is two words...

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I've been told off for blaspheming at work. Now I just say 'oh fuck that's awful' instead.

Glad I'm not the only one then

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

some people take the useage of the words 'god' or 'jesus'a bit seriously..

so it offends them when you use these words as an expletive..say you hit you thumb and said oh fucking jesus christ that hurt, they would say this was using the 'lords' name in vain..

ie not in the reverential way they would like it used..

having been a non conformist person all my life i am not the best person to say how to deal with this.. theres the religion is a personal choice route, there is the you conform to what she wants and dont use it or theres the im not offending anyone im just using words, or theres the outright, its my choice what i say and you are too sensitive approach...

unless the colleague actually tells everyone in their lives that they are offending them, when they use the word god etc, or you work for a Christian based company, i would just say that youd prefer it if they kept their personal faith views out of the workplace and therefore out of your face..but as i dont know your situation...

personally i would take the "its not my issue, that you take offence, Christians as far as i was taught, are meant to be unconditionally loving and non judgmental about others " route..

or the harsher, dont push religion into my face, otherwise ill do it all the more ..but then im an annoying person when it comes to people telling me what to do.. hope you understand what she meant now though..good luck with this one..id hate to be in your shoes, because id just want to play with it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OMFG nought said

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

There are many things people (of any creed, culture, social background etc) can take offense to if they so choose. Equally people can choose to see some conversation as just figure of speech or momentary lapse of awareness.

I think the issue is more in the intent - if I think somebody deliberately attacks my values (be it Christian or whatever) then I would see it as offensive. But only then... and tbh it is incredibly rare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Firstly there's worse words you could use and would offend !

Her views are just her views and most Christians are made of sterner stuff and not so easily upset it's just modern life ?

I'm sure she'll say something for you to get your own back with !

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By *onestjohn1962Man
over a year ago

Sheffield

I agree with most of the peeps on here - the problem is theirs and not yours. If you are so sensitive then you should wear ear muffs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell her that she offends you as a Pagan with her Christian values.

Ask her if she she is certain you were referring to her God or one of your own.

Then ask her to look up the word God in the Oxford English Dictionary.

If that fails then just tell her to Toughen Up Princess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell her what you really get up to at the weekend and ask her if she'd like to join you for a devils 3some

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In all seriousness though, have a quick chat with HR, as you're surely not going to be the only one in your office she will have spoken to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in the middle east , you can be jailed for uttering the name of "allah" in a blasphemous way and your far more likely to be arrested if your a foreigner who does not recogise allah as a god . Thankfully , we are still free to utter mostly whatever we want .

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

I'd tell her I take offence at being forced to work with gullible people who not only think a man on a cloud made everything, but try and impose that fantasy on the rest of the planet.

As an aside, what does an atheist say during orgasm?

"Oh, chemical chance"

(courtesy Bill Hicks)

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By *ilmiss75Woman
over a year ago

Thornton

A girl i work with is Italian and has conversations with other italians while working.. Shes had complaints saying she shouldnt do it coz other people cannot understand what they are saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell her that there are many gods of different religions and that you weren't referring to hers. It was discriminatory of her to assume.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

She's entitled to her beliefs and you are entitled not to share her beliefs.

I find it offensive that anyone thinks they can pressure others to live by their standards.

You wouldn't tell her she should say, "Oh God", so she shouldn't tell you not to.

Religious people need to realise the world does not revolve around their beliefs and they're not entitled to dictate how others behave.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

PS tell her Christians are supposed to forgive and turn the other cheek and ask her to pray for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just say 'oh jesus christ I am sorry!' and she'll be fine

Haha brill!

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Thanks guys I work in a really stressful environment and often have to read some quite emotive stuff....I have toned down a lot since working there more time head in laptop with earphones in and logging on here for some banter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd advise her not to listen to other people's conversations if she is so easily offended."

This.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just say 'oh jesus christ I am sorry!' and she'll be fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get offended by people who try to impose their religious beliefs upon me. I don't complain to them about it though.

She is entitled to her beliefs and to be offended by you saying that and even to make you aware that she finds it offensive. However, you are also entitled to not agree with her and use that phrase as you see fit. As long as you are not being deliberately offensive and directly insulting her then its tough shit really.

I would have said something along the lines of. I'm sorry if you found it offensive but I don't. Its just a figure of speech to me that I use as part of my normal vocabulary and not meant to upset or offend you. I will try to be mindful of it in conversation with you out of common courtesy but if I'm speaking to anyone else and say it then it isn't any of your business really. No offence.

Mrs x

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I work with a lady who is very sensitive to these sort of things. Most people try and avoid her tbh as it's sometimes very difficult to think before you speak. It's like walking on eggshells!!

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Your colleague may or may not have been making a valid point depending on what words she actually used to you.

Why should Christians or anyone else have to put up with offensive language in the work place?

It is exactly like the old dispute of pictures of nude women and nude calendars in the work place the general opinion these days is they are offensive to certain individuals and should not be displayed.

Life is about give and take but it seems on here many people seem to think one should accept offensive behaviour.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

" Life is about give and take but it seems on here many people seem to think one should accept offensive behaviour."

There's no give and take in this situation. The woman wants everyone to act in accordance with her beliefs. That's take. There's no give there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Life is about give and take but it seems on here many people seem to think one should accept offensive behaviour.

There's no give and take in this situation. The woman wants everyone to act in accordance with her beliefs. That's take. There's no give there."

Seconded!

Define offensive behaviour cause theres a lot of things on here i find are condemmed...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Life is about give and take but it seems on here many people seem to think one should accept offensive behaviour.

There's no give and take in this situation. The woman wants everyone to act in accordance with her beliefs. That's take. There's no give there."

I have to agree with this.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

I got asked to change fragrence of my deodorant as someone was upset by it

It was Lynx fever

I was like ok I will come in smelling and we can call hr to discuss in more detail

Let's say manager done a quick u turn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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. Some people need to get a life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I'm a Christian and mix with Christians on a regular basis and language is as bad as any other persons at times... I've been sat in church and our vicar speaks about how it is easy to say words such as God or Jesus in that way but it doesn't mean we are blasphemous!!

So we would recognise this person as not being indicative of how a Christian should be and would identify her as the type who give the church a bad name for speaking in that way. That sort of direct approach only alienates those of us who recognise the realities of life.

You probably wouldn't ever want to do this in reality but say to her, if it happens and she says something, comment along the lines of how does she not know that you may have been starting in prayer at that time and calling out to God in speaking in that way!! That may flummox her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell her to keep her fuckin nose out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tell her to keep her fuckin nose out"

Straight to the point as always rossi

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By *uriousBristolCplCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Just ask her to forgive you. Simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

...she best not hear me fucking...

Sweet Jeeeesus....c h r i s t!!!

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Worry not, for we all shall be judged before the almighty on our day of reckoning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I'm a Christian and mix with Christians on a regular basis and language is as bad as any other persons at times... I've been sat in church and our vicar speaks about how it is easy to say words such as God or Jesus in that way but it doesn't mean we are blasphemous!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tell her to keep her fuckin nose out

Straight to the point as always rossi

No point beating around the bush just tell it as it is

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

Ask her why she didn't just turn the other cheek and why her religious sensibilities should mean she can't respect your atheism or agnosticism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May I also suggest when you see her next that you quote to her a verse of my favourite psalm, 141 verse 3, "Set a guard, O Lord, over my mouth, keep watch over the door of my lips!!"

After she has got over her surprise of you quoting the bible then advise her to heed those words, which basically tell us to think before we speak as what we say can offend!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Say oh my god next time or , that's acceptable

It's only taking your gods name in vain

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

I'd best not have sex again .... It's an often used phrase... "Oh god Darryl ...don't stop..".

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Or your phrase might work as well cheeky..."oh god that's awful."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For anyone that gets into this situation I'd advise the best response is simply... "oh don't worry God doesn't mind"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tell her to keep her fuckin nose out

Straight to the point as always rossi

No point beating around the bush just tell it as it is

Doesnt that depend on the size of her bush?

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By *entleman JackMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

Your colleague is obviously one of those people who delight on being offended, and are skilled at putting others on the naughty step to make her feel more important. I used to work with a woman who was exactly the same, an argument waiting for somewhere to happen,

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

People who are easily shocked ought to be shocked more frequently, imo

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

Sit her down and explain how at your last place of work you had complaints made against you so you're trying to say 'oh god how awful' to be polite but you're happy to go back to 'fuck me that's shit!' if she's more comfortable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get offended by almost everything.

Why?

Because it's 2015 and it seems to be the social convention

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

As you've already offended the poor wee lamb. I'd tell her to go fuck herself and she might feel a little less uptight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As you've already offended the poor wee lamb. I'd tell her to go fuck herself and she might feel a little less uptight

Your use of foul language offends me

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"As you've already offended the poor wee lamb. I'd tell her to go fuck herself and she might feel a little less uptight

Your use of foul language offends me "

Tough shit dog breath

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sit her down and explain how at your last place of work you had complaints made against you so you're trying to say 'oh god how awful' to be polite but you're happy to go back to 'fuck me that's shit!' if she's more comfortable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As you've already offended the poor wee lamb. I'd tell her to go fuck herself and she might feel a little less uptight

Your use of foul language offends me

Tough shit dog breath

Now my dachshund is offended

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"As you've already offended the poor wee lamb. I'd tell her to go fuck herself and she might feel a little less uptight

Your use of foul language offends me

Tough shit dog breath

Now my dachshund is offended

Full house then. Good God I am doing well today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As you've already offended the poor wee lamb. I'd tell her to go fuck herself and she might feel a little less uptight

Your use of foul language offends me

Tough shit dog breath

Now my dachshund is offended

Full house then. Good God I am doing well today

And a bit of blasphemy to top it off!!

You sir are beyond help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As you've already offended the poor wee lamb. I'd tell her to go fuck herself and she might feel a little less uptight

Your use of foul language offends me

Tough shit dog breath

Now my dachshund is offended

Full house then. Good God I am doing well today

Just don't mention the M word... or it'll be Charlie Hebdo all over again

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

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By *MP3Man
over a year ago

Between Scylla and Charybdis

Tell her to get her nosy backside into this century

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"[Removed by poster at 02/09/15 15:40:17]"

Thank you kindly. Suppose a fuck out then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I get offended by almost everything.

Why?

Because it's 2015 and it seems to be the social convention

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Thank you guys, you have all proper made me chuckle today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I dont get offended when a woman says oh god yes or god god god more ect even tho im doing all the work

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Thank you guys, you have all proper made me chuckle today

Thank fuck for that. Now go do some work before you feel the wroth of God

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a very sensitive subject so my advice would be ..... Tell her to fuck off earwigging you nosey cow !!!!! See then you can be best mates

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell her you didn't mean that God,you were talking about another God.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a very sensitive subject so my advice would be ..... Tell her to fuck off earwigging you nosey cow !!!!! See then you can be best mates

At which point a Hindu work mate would probably complain about you deriding the sacred cow in that way

Clearly you need a neutral term that doesn't offend anybody's Faith but also talks about it being somebody upstairs' fault. I would suggest using phrases like "fuck the boss this stuff's all wrong" or "shit that twatting boss everything's gone bollocks up". That should work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nobody seems to have asked how she asked you... apologies if I missed it.

If she did it discreetly and respectfully then its really your call to accept or reject it her request. If she did it demandingly then get the middle finger ready.

I would actually say she had balls for bringing it up with you. The most difficult colleagues I've ever had are the passive aggressive ones who have a problem with you - but don't tell you what it is. They wait until you are down to stab you in the back.

She told you to your face so that's an ounce of credit in her favour.

I swear like a trooper because it's a habit and I like the way the words sound. I've had colleagues ask me to tone it down and I decided that I would.

I respected them bringing it up with me, more than I respected people who bitched about it in private and acted passive aggressive later.

But that's your choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder if one day the gods of today will be refered to as mythology.

Like we refer to the gods of Ancient Greece today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a very sensitive subject so my advice would be ..... Tell her to fuck off earwigging you nosey cow !!!!! See then you can be best mates

At which point a Hindu work mate would probably complain about you deriding the sacred cow in that way

Do you think so ??? See you at the job centre then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd have said something along the lines of "well, your noseyness offends me for a start and don't get me started on the offence your God causes. Any God who can inflict cancer on children, rape, murder, war, famine etc doesn't deserve an ounce of respect".

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

"I apologised probably really badly lol....I just sometimes think before I speak.."

tell her, her hubby said a lot worse when he was shagging you last week

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer."

Never give this man the nuclear launch codes. Mr Escalation 2015 is in the house

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if one day the gods of today will be refered to as mythology.

Like we refer to the gods of Ancient Greece today. "

Many years in the future they dig up a copy of Smash Hits and declare Robbie Williams the saviour.

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over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

Never give this man the nuclear launch codes. Mr Escalation 2015 is in the house

Damn straight...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer."

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!"

You've totally missed my point. But, out of interest, how are children with cancer due to the actions of the human race?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!

You've totally missed my point. But, out of interest, how are children with cancer due to the actions of the human race?"

Your point was to partially say that how can there be a God if these things exist. My response was to identify the Christian answer would be that the plaques of this world are caused by the sins of the human race! That will obviously be an implausible situation in respect of things like cancer whoever it blights but I was just trying to represent the potential answer the OP would receive to your comment if given

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Said it myself in church couple weeks ago. The God botherers reacted as if I'd suggested shagging in the baptismal pool.

Didn't realise until I asked my daughter what's wrong with them?

I suppose they thought I should know better as I used to go as a child and married there...hey Ho, still looking for a fuck to give.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!

You've totally missed my point. But, out of interest, how are children with cancer due to the actions of the human race?"

If there was nothing wrong with the world then it wouldn't be 'the world' - it would be 'heaven'. Page 1 of the bible in case you missed it.

I'm not asking you to believe that, just saying there's no logic to your point. You might not like the idea of a god that makes you earn your 72 virgins, but what part of "don't eat that fucking apple" wasn't clear?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Place a sign on your desktop stating if easily offended please fuck off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!

You've totally missed my point. But, out of interest, how are children with cancer due to the actions of the human race?

My point was to totally say that God doesn't exist! I find the notion of an omnipotent being who created everything and can control mankind or inflict plagues, floods and pestilence utterly ludicrous and archaic. I also think that the reason there's so many wars, rapes, murders and general other acts of evil is mostly (not all) down to people believing that God exists. We'll all be a massive step closer to world peace once we shrug off religion.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Nobody seems to have asked how she asked you... apologies if I missed it.

If she did it discreetly and respectfully then its really your call to accept or reject it her request. If she did it demandingly then get the middle finger ready.

She told you to your face so that's an ounce of credit in her favour.

I swear like a trooper because it's a habit and I like the way the words sound. I've had colleagues ask me to tone it down and I decided that I would.

I respected them bringing it up with me, more than I respected people who bitched about it in private and acted passive aggressive later.

But that's your choice. "

It was in front of another colleague so she had a "witness" that she felt uncomfortable and offended by what I had said, I apologised to her and walked off. I agree I rather have it said to my face rather than behind my back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have done nothing wrong, you were having a private conversation and she really should be minding her own business.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

I would've told her to mind her own god dam business

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By *istressHazeWoman
over a year ago

Loughborough

So would it be offensive to anyone listening if I screamed

"Oh My God"

during sex?

(As I do do this quite regularly!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if shes a proper christian she will forgive you so dont worry about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was in front of another colleague so she had a "witness" that she felt uncomfortable and offended by what I had said, I apologised to her and walked off. I agree I rather have it said to my face rather than behind my back

After all this taking the mickey... I think you did the right thing. If someone gets upset... that's their honest feeling... you upset them... and in a work environment its just not worth questioning that. It's just better to apologise, make a mental note about that individual, and move politely on. Well done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nobody seems to have asked how she asked you... apologies if I missed it.

If she did it discreetly and respectfully then its really your call to accept or reject it her request. If she did it demandingly then get the middle finger ready.

She told you to your face so that's an ounce of credit in her favour.

I swear like a trooper because it's a habit and I like the way the words sound. I've had colleagues ask me to tone it down and I decided that I would.

I respected them bringing it up with me, more than I respected people who bitched about it in private and acted passive aggressive later.

But that's your choice.

Right well that's a poor show really. The thing is, most the advice here is about what's best for your ego.

My question is what's best for your career? Will it effect your job performance if she hates you? Or can she enhance your work status if she loves you?

In my job, people can make things very difficult for you by doing things as slowly as possible which makes me look incompetent. That might be twatty but it's the real world. So I'll play the game because it's easier than not. I reserve the right to still think they are an idiot. But I don't go to work for a social life so keep your eyes on the prize... if she doesn't matter then do what you please...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the thing that some people miss with this whole thing is that to many theists the word "God" has as much heartfelt meaning as their mother's name. If you were stood around cursing things by using this person's mother's name it would be really obvious how offensive you were being. And that's kind of how theists tend to see it. I'm not speaking on this person's behalf... I'm just trying to give you another perspective on the matter

Try thinking about someone you really love and then imagine everyone idly using their name as a form of slander. I'm guessing you'd get tired of it eventually

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just say, " forgive me", and she'll understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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oh sweet Mary mother of Christ, what's the matter with some people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God!!! some people

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Using the Lords name in vain is blasphemy and talked about in the bible , she may have taken offence but so should you she shouldn't be listening to your conversation let alone saying you offended her !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try thinking about someone you really love and then imagine everyone idly using their name as a form of slander. I'm guessing you'd get tired of it eventually"

Nope screw em,

Their choice to believe

Not their choice to control the actions of others,

I could believe not working would make us all healthier people, it isn't true and financially crippling, but if I chose to ignore the obvious facts and run with it anyway I DO NOT have the right to openly stop others from talking about work,

Offended is a problem for the offended not the offender, for a person free of religion God or Jesus are just words and we do have a right to use them without indignation from those that CHOOSE to beleive

But as has been said, it's your job at stake so you will more likely have to grit your teeth and accept her complaint, even though you are not in the wrong,

Good God there has been a lot of religious claptrap in these forums lately, I think I miss cock pic threads,

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

People these days are quick to be offended and seem to think it's some kind of terminal illness when they choose to be offended. That's all it is,a choice. She has listened to something she was not part of and has chosen to be offended by something you said.

It's her choice to be religious as much as it's your choice not to be and each of you use language accordingly.

Offended is quickly becoming my hated word of 2015, along with empowering

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Offended is a problem for the offended not the offender"

I think you'll find most corporations and most HR departments see this the other way round. It is an indiviudual's right to claim offence, and the system should always weigh in their favour... as long as they don't abuse this right. In this case the person didn't report the OP, she merely took it up with her herself... which was the best way of going about it imo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's her choice to be religious as much as it's your choice not to be and each of you use language accordingly.

Offended is quickly becoming my hated word of 2015, along with empowering

What if the comment had been racist or sexist or homophobic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if the comment had been racist or sexist or homophobic?"

They are different because they are out of the realm of personal choice to believe

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

I had a similar encounter with one of my Christian colleagues after using the same expression, I said I'm sorry please forgive me, however if you aren't fond of taking the lords name in vain perhaps your shouldn't constantly be updating your Facebook status with OMG everything something is shocking to you oh and by the way what's the lords take on eavesdropping? She never responded until later that day when her status was "OMG never guessed what one of my colleagues dared to say to me today"

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Don't fall for it.

Christians say 'On my God' or 'Oh good God.' too....

You are not offending her religion.

Tell her you are offended by cheese and she mustn't eat it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if the comment had been racist or sexist or homophobic?

They are different because they are out of the realm of personal choice to believe "

Not necessarily. Are they simply culturally conditioned rather than absolutes? I would think that forty years ago many more people would have been offended by "taking God's name in vain' than today.

Being offended may simply be based on our own idiosyncratic values and beliefs. Cultural norms may simply mean that more people are offended by certain things than others?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet they don't say that when they are screaming omfg when they are getting a good seeing to :D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell them you don't believe in God or Christianity . Job done!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if the comment had been racist or sexist or homophobic?

They are different because they are out of the realm of personal choice to believe "

I'm pretty sure the existence of a god is also out of the realm of personal choice lol

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"What if the comment had been racist or sexist or homophobic?

They are different because they are out of the realm of personal choice to believe

I'm pretty sure the existence of a god is also out of the realm of personal choice lol

I've made the personal choice that I don't believe in God. I'm perfectly happy with that choice.

I've made the personal choice that as long as they're not hurting others, anyone else can believe what they like in terms of religion.

I've made the personal choice that I object to being expected to kowtow to the beliefs of others when they are not my own. My beliefs are no more and no less important than those of anyone else.

I often wonder why I've never heard an atheist try to spontaneously convert a religious person, and most atheists respect the right of others to follow their chosen religion, why the hell the religious can't extend the same courtesy to atheists.

I think I'm going to start an atheists group and start knocking on doors at random times to try to push my views on people who don't want them.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

It's her choice to be religious as much as it's your choice not to be and each of you use language accordingly.

Offended is quickly becoming my hated word of 2015, along with empowering

What if the comment had been racist or sexist or homophobic?"

As you cannot choose your race, your gender or your sexuality they are different scenarios but actually it would depend upon what they took offence at in my opinion.

If it was a comment that was said to cause upset nd intentional offence then yeah, they'd have a point but if it was something along the lines of what the op said then again, They are choosing to be offended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if the comment had been racist or sexist or homophobic?

They are different because they are out of the realm of personal choice to believe

I'm pretty sure the existence of a god is also out of the realm of personal choice lol

I'll get me coat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if the comment had been racist or sexist or homophobic?

They are different because they are out of the realm of personal choice to believe

I'm pretty sure the existence of a god is also out of the realm of personal choice lol

I've made the personal choice that I don't believe in God. I'm perfectly happy with that choice.

I've made the personal choice that as long as they're not hurting others, anyone else can believe what they like in terms of religion.

I've made the personal choice that I object to being expected to kowtow to the beliefs of others when they are not my own. My beliefs are no more and no less important than those of anyone else.

I think I'm going to start an atheists group and start knocking on doors at random times to try to push my views on people who don't want them."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I often wonder why I've never heard an atheist try to spontaneously convert a religious person, and most atheists respect the right of others to follow their chosen religion, why the hell the religious can't extend the same courtesy to atheists."

Lol ... have we been reading the same forum as each other. Atheists alllllways try and convert theists... its one of their defining features, their proselytizing. I can't recall ever hearing a believer on these forums actively trying to persuade others to accept that there is a god... but atheists allllways pounce on theists and call them out as irrational fools.

To be honest I'm somewhat amazed by the emotions that get raised when someone merely mentions the word "God". It seems so threatening to some people. It's almost like claiming you're over an Ex and then flying into a rage every time his/her name is mentioned. It feels like there's some unfinished business there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's her choice to be religious as much as it's your choice not to be and each of you use language accordingly.

Offended is quickly becoming my hated word of 2015, along with empowering

What if the comment had been racist or sexist or homophobic?

As you cannot choose your race, your gender or your sexuality they are different scenarios but actually it would depend upon what they took offence at in my opinion.

I agree about choosing to be offended. But in the cases of racism, sexism and homophobia we choose to be offended too. However more people are offended by racism, sexism and homophobia these days than they were in the past, while less so by 'blasphemy'. I imagine that is due to cultural conditioning. I guess the issue for me is in some cases it appears ok to feel offended but in others it is not and that is largely due to cultural conditioning and informed by own values and beliefs which may or may not conform with cultural norms.

I think in the OPs case. She was right to apologise for unintentionally offending the woman and then walk away. As for blasphemy being offensive .... Oh God I don't want to go there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Richard Dawkins is an atheistic evangelist

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I frequently see atheists defending their right not to believe to theists that won't leave them in peace.

I've yet to see an atheist start the discussion in order to try to convert a theist.

I respect the right of others to choose their own religious and spiritual beliefs and I'd like those others to let me choose mine without badgering me about it.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

That's a sweeping generalisation!!

I'm a non-believer and I've never called anyone an irrational fool (except maybe Daily Fail readers but if the cap fits!)

Believe what you like. It's none of my business. I'd like to think I'd not deliberately offend someone or their beliefs. Each to their own.

Don't put us all in the same bucket... I don't want to be tarred with that brush thank you very much.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I'm just going to keep my gob shut and mutter it....it's been one of those days...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd ignor them. Your conversation is private between you and your colleague. What happened to freedom of speech

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've yet to see an atheist start the discussion in order to try to convert a theist."

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/scotland/421044

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/287474

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/304533

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/238694

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/232147

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/189332

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/scotland/133821

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/108174

...just for starters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Lord's name isn't "god", end of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Put her stapler in a condom,"

Lol...i like the idea

This should shut her up...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work with a Christian and every now and then he rolls his eyes & mumbles something which is largely ignored when he hears a For Gods Sake / Jesus Christ.

But as we said once before to him what would he prefer to hear a For Fucks Sake instead , he had no answer to that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being brought up by a Catholic mum, I don't say "Jesus Christ" in everyday language but do say "For God's sake" & I would never tell someone I found it offensive, especially if I wasn't part of the conversation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!

You've totally missed my point. But, out of interest, how are children with cancer due to the actions of the human race?

And you will find that your statement is totally incorrect!! You actually claim that the majority of assaults in this country are caused by religion?? That the majority of myrder is caused by religion? Was World War 1 and 2 caused by religion? The answer to all those is no!! Not sure if you will know this but the Encylopedia of War breaks down the causes of war and only 4% of nearly 2000 conflicts were caused by religion. It is too easy to blame religion for causing autrocities but quite simply the belief of many when this happens is caused by the distorted view portrayed by media that we see and hear! Seek out facts not fiction and don't listen to Rupert Murdoch so much

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

Register as a Pasterfarian with HR, then wear your Spaghetti Strainer religious headwear at work- when god women asks about it, ask her if she's ever eaten pasta- if she says yes, scream in her face

"YOU EVIL WOMEN!!! YOU'VE DEVOURED MY DEITY!!!!!'

Safe in the knowledge your belief in a made up sky fairy is covered just the same as hers is.

(don't forget to wish her Happy Stolen Pagen Festival late in December and sometime around April too

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I've yet to see an atheist start the discussion in order to try to convert a theist.

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/scotland/421044

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/287474

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/304533

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/238694

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/232147

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/189332

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/scotland/133821

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/108174

...just for starters

If looked at a few of those. They aren't trying to convert anyone, they're discussing the effect science has on religion and how religion fits into our changing world.

I've not seen anyone start a thread demanding a theist prove God exists, but I've seen many threads started by theists demanding atheists justify their beliefs.

A lot of theists seem to think it a personal affront that some people don't believe in their deity. At the worst, atheists believe theists to be a bit deluded.

If the theists leave me to my beliefs, I'll stay out of theirs. If not, let's just say it could get messy.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Register as a Pasterfarian with HR, then wear your Spaghetti Strainer religious headwear at work- when god women asks about it, ask her if she's ever eaten pasta- if she says yes, scream in her face

"YOU EVIL WOMEN!!! YOU'VE DEVOURED MY DEITY!!!!!'

Safe in the knowledge your belief in a made up sky fairy is covered just the same as hers is.

(don't forget to wish her Happy Stolen Pagen Festival late in December and sometime around April too

Excellent!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!

You've totally missed my point. But, out of interest, how are children with cancer due to the actions of the human race?

No distortion, 4% is too many

Your facts only say "yeah, but there worse than us"

People are dying for reasons related solely to religion, and IF religion didn't exist there are deaths that wouldn't have happened

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell her to watch Monty Pythons The Life of Brian.

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By *ark074Man
over a year ago

nottingham

Send your colleague for a day's work experience in my office.

She may look at you in a different, more understanding light.

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By *lligator3Man
over a year ago

Dundee

You shouldnt take thy moochers into thy hut...as a great man put it.

Hope that helped

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've yet to see an atheist start the discussion in order to try to convert a theist.

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/scotland/421044

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/287474

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/304533

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/238694

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/232147

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/189332

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/scotland/133821

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/108174

...just for starters

If looked at a few of those. They aren't trying to convert anyone, they're discussing the effect science has on religion and how religion fits into our changing world.

I've not seen anyone start a thread demanding a theist prove God exists, but I've seen many threads started by theists demanding atheists justify their beliefs.

A lot of theists seem to think it a personal affront that some people don't believe in their deity. At the worst, atheists believe theists to be a bit deluded.

If the theists leave me to my beliefs, I'll stay out of theirs. If not, let's just say it could get messy."

They are each making negative statements about the irrelevence of religion and how silly it is to believe in a god. That is in no way a neutral discussion of "the effect science has on religion and how religion fits into our changing world" as you put it. Many of these threads also talk of the hypocrisy of swingers being religious. If you don't want to read it as passive agressive proselytizing then I guess that's your choice... but these are clearly examples of atheists who actively start up debates with a view to try and convince people that being religious and/or believing in a god is wrong.... which shows your original remark was mistaken... and that was all I was looking to show

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!

You've totally missed my point. But, out of interest, how are children with cancer due to the actions of the human race?

No distortion, 4% is too many

Your facts only say "yeah, but there worse than us"

People are dying for reasons related solely to religion, and IF religion didn't exist there are deaths that wouldn't have happened

You have got to be joking so you want to save 4% of a few million because of religion but basically state the fact that 96% related not to religion is ok... Yea I see your logic then 100% of death would be caused by non religious people and the world would be a better place!! I think I need to have a lie down at that insane reasoning from you lol

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By *untimegeekMan
over a year ago

Havant

Ask her if she believes in sant claus. He is an historical fictional character too

However he was in a fairytale! Rather than a work of fiction used to govern the uneducated populations of the time

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By *moothies.Couple
over a year ago

Woodthorpe

Blame tourettes then she couldn't complain about your disability

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!

You've totally missed my point. But, out of interest, how are children with cancer due to the actions of the human race?

No distortion, 4% is too many

Your facts only say "yeah, but there worse than us"

People are dying for reasons related solely to religion, and IF religion didn't exist there are deaths that wouldn't have happened

Stating that 4% is too much does not in anyway excuse the other 96%

Don't try to play games

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me being the pedantic pagan that I am would of turned round and said "Jesus Christ can't say anything nowadays without someone taking offence"

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By *rneilMan
over a year ago

rochester and pembrokshire

You could tell her being a christian does not give her the right not to be offended.

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By *moothies.Couple
over a year ago

Woodthorpe

What happened to forgiveness?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What happened to forgiveness?

and turn the other cheek?

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By *moothies.Couple
over a year ago

Woodthorpe

"What happened to forgiveness?

and turn the other cheek?

Dont get your arse out it'll only make matters worse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell her that people that listen in to other people's conversations often hear no good about themselves and that you are offended she listened in to your private conversation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd then have taken a poo in her desk drawer.

And if you know anything about Christianity then you would know that the issues you raised that blight this world are caused by the actions of the human race not by an unhelpful God!!

You've totally missed my point. But, out of interest, how are children with cancer due to the actions of the human race?

No distortion, 4% is too many

Your facts only say "yeah, but there worse than us"

People are dying for reasons related solely to religion, and IF religion didn't exist there are deaths that wouldn't have happened

Stating that 4% is too much does not in anyway excuse the other 96%

Don't try to play games "

Not playing games just the way your comment was written made no sense!! Surely we shouldn't be putting a priority on the few but on the many to reduce the level of death taking place?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not playing games just the way your comment was written made no sense!! Surely we shouldn't be putting a priority on the few but on the many to reduce the level of death taking place?"

I don't think it did, there was no suggestion that other deaths are acceptable just not acknowledge as not part of a religious discussion

until today I have avoided as much as I could these religious threads, because I dislike arguing with believers, they often when faced with facts take one irrelevant aspect and blow it out of proportion masking the original facts raised,

So I think I'll back out here, Agree disagree and all that,

have a good night,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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its pathetic hun tbh dont worry about it x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not playing games just the way your comment was written made no sense!! Surely we shouldn't be putting a priority on the few but on the many to reduce the level of death taking place?

I don't think it did, there was no suggestion that other deaths are acceptable just not acknowledge as not part of a religious discussion

So I think I'll back out here, Agree disagree and all that,

have a good night,

Indeed I did raise my point with the OP and argued that this person had a distorted view with making comment about what she said in using the term God... I am happy to be involved in a balanced argument but the comment from a previous post was my point of ire not yourself so maybe took your words out of context!!

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

I've got it. Go in work tomorrow with a machine gun. Shoot the bitch then ask for the Lords forgiveness. Best of both worlds if you ask me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm just going to keep my gob shut and mutter it....it's been one of those days...

Just start a bareback thread next time OP - less contraversial

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

If someone is offended by me I'd assume it's because I've purposely said or done something I know would upset me.

I can't for the life of me see why someone would be offended by something that was done without malice, there's a difference between someone using the wrong terminology through ignorance rather than malice.

In this instance he/she seems to be offended cause she was poking her nose into someone else's conversation and if they had told me they where offended I would of said that's OK I don't mind be as offended as you want.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I'm just going to keep my gob shut and mutter it....it's been one of those days...

Just start a bareback thread next time OP - less contraversial"

I meant at work not on here...this thread has been insightful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm just going to keep my gob shut and mutter it....it's been one of those days...

Just start a bareback thread next time OP - less contraversial

I meant at work not on here...this thread has been insightful

Which part- the advice you got on the subject or the inevitable theology battle?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

funny how some of those who follow a belief system which talks about forgiveness get so arsey about words..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have to say I don't know any Christians that would actually be offended by this.

That said, if someone has let me know that something I say has offended them, I'd probably try not to say it around them, as far as I could remember. A bit like not swearing in front of my mam.

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