FabSwingers.com forum: Am I gay??

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

dressed as a Freddie Mercury lookalikie...... probably

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi/bi curious maybe.

Why get hung up on a label though

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can be gay if you'd like to.

I'd say you're leaning towards gay if you like cross dressers. Some can be very masculine.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bi/bi curious maybe.

Why get hung up on a label though

Thanks

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By *ilmiss75Woman
over a year ago

Thornton

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Hahahaha...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??"

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

Almost certainly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Bi-curious? *passes the anal bleach to Tina*

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

once you are balls deep.... if you do jazz hands, then yes you are.

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Similar predicament, although I don't want to fuck them, just think some of the really convincing hot ones are...well.....hot!lol.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"
yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes! next.

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By *iver_iew1Couple
over a year ago

gourock

each to there own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!"

No, they have to be men

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

Labels, who cares do what makes you happy.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

It's the internet you can be whatever or whoever you want to be.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!"

So why am I gay if I wanna fuck a man??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep!

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

Why does it matter? You're amongst friends...

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Tis true, you've caught the ghey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can be gay if you'd like to.

I'd say you're leaning towards gay if you like cross dressers. Some can be very masculine. "

and some very feminine, a girl can have a cock too! Thats what I like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!

So why am I gay if I wanna fuck a man??"

Cos it's a homosexual act for a man to fuck a man...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you only have sex with men because women don't turn you on you're gay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh no, you've caught the ghey!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

If you also want to fuck a radio you could be electrosexual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!

So why am I gay if I wanna fuck a man??"

You might be gay or you might not be. That is really of no concern whatsoever. I might be reading your responses incorrectly, but it seems that you are concerned, which does not sit well with me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!

So why am I gay if I wanna fuck a man??

Cos it's a homosexual act for a man to fuck a man..."

Confused!? U saying it's different for women to want to fuck women??

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By *layfull pairingCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Might just be your a horny fucker....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!

So why am I gay if I wanna fuck a man??

Cos it's a homosexual act for a man to fuck a man...

Confused!? U saying it's different for women to want to fuck women??"

Because there's this BRILLIANT invention known as... *drum roll* BISEXUALITY.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!

So why am I gay if I wanna fuck a man??

Cos it's a homosexual act for a man to fuck a man...

Confused!? U saying it's different for women to want to fuck women??"

No, that's a homosexual act, too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

Depends if you make eye contact

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!

So why am I gay if I wanna fuck a man??

Cos it's a homosexual act for a man to fuck a man...

Confused!? U saying it's different for women to want to fuck women??

Because there's this BRILLIANT invention known as... *drum roll* BISEXUALITY."

I get that but that's not wats being said above!! ^^^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm gonna quote the guy from right said Fred. "I am predominantly a gay man but I reserve the right to wake up next to a good pair of tits now and again". I think op may fall into this category but the reverse.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

Depends if you make eye contact"

Haha

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm gonna quote the guy from right said Fred. "I am predominantly a gay man but I reserve the right to wake up next to a good pair of tits now and again". I think op may fall into this category but the reverse."

Maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Defo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

Yeah sure you can be straight while you're only thinking about it......

But if you do it and like it and repeat it ....... you ain't straight anymore.....

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By *iver_iew1Couple
over a year ago

gourock

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

If you also want to fuck a radio you could be electrosexual"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't label yourself , I like both men and women but I draw the line at shagging sheep

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis. "

Are you sure about that ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't label yourself , I like both men and women but I draw the line at shagging sheep

Narrow minded bigot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

If you also want to fuck a radio you could be electrosexual"

But liking it might mean he's electrified!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

I've never been fucked by a straight guy...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?"
Yes, are you sure about it?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"
no it just means you got fed up with getting no luck from messaging women on here,

so thought you'd be a bit more open with your options,

it's the natural thing if your a single bloke and been here a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

right your 41 years old

how can you not know the meaning of gay at 41

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

right your 41 years old

how can you not know the meaning of gay at 41

Lol if it were only so simple ??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??no it just means you got fed up with getting no luck from messaging women on here,

so thought you'd be a bit more open with your options,

it's the natural thing if your a single bloke and been here a while "

Spot on!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't label yourself , I like both men and women but I draw the line at shagging sheep

But goats are fine!?!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"once you are balls deep.... if you do jazz hands, then yes you are."

OMG the images in my head now

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?."

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

However women also have surgery to become a guy where she would turn into a he...and usually take hormones to obtain male charastics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

You're only gay if you touch the willy.

If you do touch the willy you will be a gayer forever mind. And there will be no going back muuuuhahaha

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

If I'm wrong regarding the statement above shoot me now lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis. "

The OP said TV, meaning transvestite. That is not the same as transexual. By your post I don't think you know much about either one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

You're only gay if you touch the willy.

If you do touch the willy you will be a gayer forever mind. And there will be no going back muuuuhahaha"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are only gay if you push back apparently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are only gay if you push back apparently "

No!!! - that rule only applies in prison

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!

So why am I gay if I wanna fuck a man??"

So what would be your definition of gay if it isn't a guy fucking another guy ..regardless of what they are wearing.....?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are only gay if you push back apparently

No!!! - that rule only applies in prison"

What if I close my eyes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who really cares it's just sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?.

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

However women also have surgery to become a guy where she would turn into a he...and usually take hormones to obtain male charastics "
I see yes and that's right doing a CD would defo make him gay and ur right there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?.

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

However women also have surgery to become a guy where she would turn into a he...and usually take hormones to obtain male charastics "

It's like teaching sex ed to a teenager

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are only gay if you push back apparently

No!!! - that rule only applies in prison"

Reminds me of one I heard the other day. Small young guy ends up in a cell with a big guy who says, you wanna play mummy or daddy? Small guy says 'can I be daddy?' Big guy says 'sure, now come and suck mummys dick!'

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?.

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

However women also have surgery to become a guy where she would turn into a he...and usually take hormones to obtain male charastics

It's like teaching sex ed to a teenager

What did I say something wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

Ok, going to accept this as a serious question

Nobody can answer that but you, the answers received already are not to taken seriously at all,

Take from stuff what you want not what is expected, if you want to play that way do it. As long as you and the other person are happy nobody else is involved nor do you need to apply a label, if you enjoy it explore it. Could be bi but it's upto you, you do NOT need to comply to any preconceptions

But I will say it's a risk to involve anyone else until you are comfortable with what you want and who you are (You not opinions of others) or at least explain your situation to any other people you may play with

But above All else if You want to try it do, Don't stop yourself because of a label social convention may apply. Have fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Looool

Enjoyed this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??

Women don't have to be a lesbian to fuck another woman!

So why am I gay if I wanna fuck a man??

So what would be your definition of gay if it isn't a guy fucking another guy ..regardless of what they are wearing.....?"

Kissing and cuddling afterwards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

Not if they're fit and look feminine , no .

If they are 6 foot + and have a beard , yes .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"once you are balls deep.... if you do jazz hands, then yes you are."

Pmsl! Love u _iew!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

Yes

Maybe

bottom line is your sexuality is yours to define and be happy with. but if you like male and female that makes you bi not gay, and that is a sliding scale you also need to work out for yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?.

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

However women also have surgery to become a guy where she would turn into a he...and usually take hormones to obtain male charastics

It's like teaching sex ed to a teenager

What did I say something wrong? "

Not at all that's the point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe

So does that he's to sexy for his skirt

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?.

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

However women also have surgery to become a guy where she would turn into a he...and usually take hormones to obtain male charastics

It's like teaching sex ed to a teenager

What did I say something wrong?

Not at all that's the point "

Oh ok phew I was trying to get it all straight in my head while typing lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis. "

That's a female to male transexual I think he means a male to female one, I could be wrong though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?.

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

However women also have surgery to become a guy where she would turn into a he...and usually take hormones to obtain male charastics I see yes and that's right doing a CD would defo make him gay and ur right there."

No it wouldnt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"once you are balls deep.... if you do jazz hands, then yes you are."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bag of worms you could argue if you want to fuck aCD/crossdresser, as I define it , then your fucking a guy who likes to wear satin .

But what if it's a transexual on there (is it two years) where they live to all intent purposes as a women, before any procedures .....if you were. To call them male would they not take issue...

You know , what I have no fucking idea.., find one give em a snog , if that works for ya go for it.

But mate don't stop yourself if it's something you want to try, heavens what are you afraid of.if You was out drinking with ..say... Tiffany Starr and she / he said 'back to mine then ' ...

Would you say no?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

The ancient Japanese had no word for Gay or Lesbian, Samurai warriors used to have sex with men or women, they just had sex full stop, so in answer to your question, you are a Samurai Warrior, be free my friend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

Does a bear shit in the woods?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?.

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

No it wouldnt

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How come its not?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

This. I believe the direct Japanese translation is "every hole is a goal"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"once you are balls deep.... if you do jazz hands, then yes you are."

Isnt only if you you sing "I am what I am" at the same time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

What is free about being someones servant?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only one answer...yep!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?.

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

No it wouldnt

How come its not?."

Because a gay man is a man who only has sex with other men

If you have sex with women and for some reason fancy a TV or TS and do it you don't automatically stop having sex with women and become gay

Surely it would make him bi sexual?

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By *ewantfun14Couple
over a year ago

Norfolk

Only if you fuck 1 while watching the eurovision song contest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Only if you fuck 1 while watching the eurovision song contest

Nah that would just make you wierd

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

This. I believe the direct Japanese translation is "every hole is a goal""

Here, you're making that up ( in a Kenneth Williams voice)

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Is it this time of the week already?

It just makes you more interesting. Labels are for luggage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it this time of the week already?

It just makes you more interesting. Labels are for luggage.

Why does it make you more interesting?

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Don't label yourself , I like both men and women but I draw the line at shagging sheep

Narrow minded bigot.

To be fair they didn't specify which side of the sheep they drew the line.

OP: The real question is: does it matter to you? Don't let any of society's mores spoil your life. It's just too short.

Mr ddc

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

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"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

You can call yourself ANYTHING you want to be called EXCEPT STRAIGHT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

This. I believe the direct Japanese translation is "every hole is a goal"

Here, you're making that up ( in a Kenneth Williams voice)

Google translate must have been having a funny 5 minutes

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

"Is it this time of the week already?

It just makes you more interesting. Labels are for luggage.

Why does it make you more interesting?"

Well totally straight chaps aren't of a lot of interest to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it this time of the week already?

It just makes you more interesting. Labels are for luggage.

Why does it make you more interesting?

Well totally straight chaps aren't of a lot of interest to me

But isn't totally straight a label?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

Are you sure about that ?Yes, are you sure about it?.

Shag I think he means that he wants to fuck a guy that dresses up as a woman or someone who has gone through gender reassignment surgery however still may tech be classed as a "man"

No it wouldnt

How come its not?.

Because a gay man is a man who only has sex with other men

If you have sex with women and for some reason fancy a TV or TS and do it you don't automatically stop having sex with women and become gay

Surely it would make him bi sexual?"
That's right and yes. I would say bi as well as they fancy women too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it this time of the week already?

It just makes you more interesting. Labels are for luggage.

Why does it make you more interesting?

Well totally straight chaps aren't of a lot of interest to me

But isn't totally straight a label?

No, it's a state of denial

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it this time of the week already?

It just makes you more interesting. Labels are for luggage.

Why does it make you more interesting?

Well totally straight chaps aren't of a lot of interest to me

But isn't totally straight a label?

No, it's a state of denial"

Nope, it's an actual state

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

But isn't totally straight a label?

Yes, I stick it on the envelope when I post photos along with one saying not to bend

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By *ohnkezCouple
over a year ago

shefiield

"You're gay as fuck you dirty perv

Haha so u r lesbian cause u fuck woman??"
no she is bi sexual der

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??

You're only gay if you touch the willy.

If you do touch the willy you will be a gayer forever mind. And there will be no going back muuuuhahaha"

I must be gay then as I've joy playing with tvs / cds and do touch, suck and push back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But isn't totally straight a label?

Yes, I stick it on the envelope when I post photos along with one saying not to bend

So how do they reach a low letterbox?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Labels fall off do what you enjoy simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But isn't totally straight a label?

Yes, I stick it on the envelope when I post photos along with one saying not to bend

Lmao

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

But isn't totally straight a label?

Yes, I stick it on the envelope when I post photos along with one saying not to bend

So how do they reach a low letterbox?

I only post to high letterboxes. I spot them at local raves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing turns me off more than seeing a hairy geezer in an ill fitting basque and fishnets

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nothing turns me off more than seeing a hairy geezer in an ill fitting basque and fishnets

Why they all look like that??

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

shag the same sex=gay

shag both sexes=bi

bitch on forums=ghey

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"You are still straight, cos a transsexual is technically a woman, she was born a woman and still looks like a woman, but just had a surgically added a penis.

The OP said TV, meaning transvestite. That is not the same as transexual. By your post I don't think you know much about either one."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

seriously though.

I have never had gay men interested in me sexually.

They are always men whom have females generally that are interested in me.

So I wouldn't worry about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I gay if I want to fuck a TV/cd??"

If she's/he's got a dick, then yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is the Internet and I am ironman!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May I ask why you want sex with a tv/cd?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"May I ask why you want sex with a tv/cd? "

Because I find them a turn on

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