FabSwingers.com forum: british muslim

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

if your british why refer to yourself by religion?? my religion is catholic not british catholic.

whats your views??

classing yourself as british muslim.. we dont here german or french muslim

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'm Scottish.

I wouldn't describe myself as a British Athiest.

My views on religion do not have any bearing on my nationality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Irish Catholic is a thing, too.

Greek Orthodox, as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it can be good thing. It shows you can be both British and Muslim, which a lot of people forget.

If people want to identify by religion, let them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

yes but in britain i dont know of any other religion that is thrust in the limelight as a definition like british muslim is.. and greek orthadox is a religion itself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yes but in britain i dont know of any other religion that is thrust in the limelight as a definition like british muslim is.. and greek orthadox is a religion itself"

I dunno why it matters what someone calls themselves. You can't police it, no one can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yes but in britain i dont know of any other religion that is thrust in the limelight as a definition like british muslim is.. and greek orthadox is a religion itself"

British Odinist Fellowship is one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

people should be known as their nationality that being british then we can all mix in together without invisible barriers and religion brings that into

if your german or french and english british no need to add your personal beliefs to the end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yes but in britain i dont know of any other religion that is thrust in the limelight as a definition like british muslim is.. and greek orthadox is a religion itself"

Church of England is arguably one too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"people should be known as their nationality that being british then we can all mix in together without invisible barriers and religion brings that into

if your german or french and english british no need to add your personal beliefs to the end"

Some would argue that the nationality is a limit itself. Why are you okay with segregation by country but not religion?

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

"Irish Catholic is a thing, too.

Greek Orthodox, as well. "

Greek Orthodox is an actual religion (or group of churches). It's different from the other examples.

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By *lashheartMan
over a year ago

shrewsbury

Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"people should be known as their nationality that being british then we can all mix in together without invisible barriers and religion brings that into

if your german or french and english british no need to add your personal beliefs to the end

Some would argue that the nationality is a limit itself. Why are you okay with segregation by country but not religion?"
i am not ok with segregation and have not said so, so dont put words or your hidden agenda into me please,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"people should be known as their nationality that being british then we can all mix in together without invisible barriers and religion brings that into

if your german or french and english british no need to add your personal beliefs to the end"

For some people their religion or culture is as strong an identity as their nationality. Why shouldn't they?

I am a British Christian. That's how I identify. My Christian beliefs are a far larger part of my personality than my Britishness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"people should be known as their nationality that being british then we can all mix in together without invisible barriers and religion brings that into

if your german or french and english british no need to add your personal beliefs to the end

Some would argue that the nationality is a limit itself. Why are you okay with segregation by country but not religion? i am not ok with segregation and have not said so, so dont put words or your hidden agenda into me please, "

Well, you said "people should be known as their nationality". That doesn't promote integration.

Hidden agenda, dumb

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? "
it does not bother me, iam just asking peoples views

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Firstly OP is rabble rousing and not genuinely seeking information. Muslims call themselves Muslims or British. However to show they are patriotic and that they are born in Britain or British orientated the term British Muslim is used. Because as OP knows all Muslims are alike?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

my own personal view is that having religion at the end of your nationality brings hidden barriers that all

so i believe religion should be missed off the end .. each to their own i suppose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Earthling. Atheist (mostly harmless).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

i was sat last night with 2 friends one from idia muslim and he pointed out .. oh another fucking name dragasia thats all we need is another label

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Firstly OP is rabble rousing and not genuinely seeking information. Muslims call themselves Muslims or British. However to show they are patriotic and that they are born in Britain or British orientated the term British Muslim is used. Because as OP knows all Muslims are alike?"
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No iam not rabble rousing, just asking peoples views as stated in thread, ave live in parts of the usa and my current location both with many religions and cultures in brooklyn newyork religion is left at the door

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't want to control how people identify themselves.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do they queue in an orderly line!

If not there just not British!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i was sat last night with 2 friends one from idia muslim and he pointed out .. oh another fucking name dragasia thats all we need is another label"

You need labels or its a nightmare in tesco when all you want is a tin of chopped tomatoes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm British not English as I am Cornish but I don't have any religion to that maybe I could say I'm a spiritual soul

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? it does not bother me, iam just asking peoples views"

It clearly does bother you

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? it does not bother me, iam just asking peoples views

It clearly does bother you"
no it does not or i would say so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? it does not bother me, iam just asking peoples views

It clearly does bother you no it does not or i would say so"

But you quite clearly said that people should be known by their nationality? And that being defined by religion creates invisible barriers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"people should be known as their nationality that being british then we can all mix in together without invisible barriers and religion brings that into

if your german or french and english british no need to add your personal beliefs to the end"
What about Jamaicans that say they are british?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a Scandinavian

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thought this was a swingers site. Don't we get enough political correct crap thrown at us through the media.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1) At the moment Islam is at risk of being decried as a very anti western religon, why can't people describing themselves as British Muslim be showing a positive western/British alignment.

2) It might be a nomenclature assigned by others press, media, race haters.

3) It might be ascribed by people who are looking for a particular group for one reason or another.

No comment, merely observation and suggestion.

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By *luetezoCouple
over a year ago

by the beach

Afro American

What's that about?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Anyone looking for a Scandinavian shag tonight, or could assist with a milking?

I've nowt to offer on religions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thought this was a swingers site. Don't we get enough political correct crap thrown at us through the media. "

Not sure where political correctness comes in to it

But regardless, welcome to the lounge where swingers talk about things other than sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Afro American

What's that about?"

Os it not obvious?

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By *luetezoCouple
over a year ago

by the beach

"Afro American

What's that about?

Os it not obvious? "

But why nationality and heritage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Afro American

What's that about?

Os it not obvious?

But why nationality and heritage"

Could it be linked to slavery do you think? And that people who's ancestors were forced in to slavery might want to fiercly maintain that link to their heritage

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By *ocksalt69Man
over a year ago

cardiff

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? "

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By *luetezoCouple
over a year ago

by the beach

"Afro American

What's that about?

Os it not obvious?

But why nationality and heritage

Could it be linked to slavery do you think? And that people who's ancestors were forced in to slavery might want to fiercly maintain that link to their heritage"

Think any title is potentially divisive it doesn't promote everyone getting on with each other and a peaceful world

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

i was born ireland father is irish, mother is russian , i have dual citizenship and my religion is catholic.

my post was to discover other peoples thoughts on britishness and religion linked in name to it as their description

nothing sinister, nothing meant in spite

just curious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op you first went wrong when you started a thread other than kiss, pass, fuck and have been shot down!

Secondly, you are not allowed to make a post unless you are in the forum clique or you will be shot down!

Thirdly, agree to everyone elses opinion who is in mentioned clique or you will be shot down!

Can you see a pattern forming?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Op you first went wrong when you started a thread other than kiss, pass, fuck and have been shot down!

Secondly, you are not allowed to make a post unless you are in the forum clique or you will be shot down!

Thirdly, agree to everyone elses opinion who is in mentioned clique or you will be shot down!

Can you see a pattern forming?

inded i rather not be in their clqiquey gang as they say ... a will voice my thought opinions as i feel as long as i follow fab guidlines and to fek with the cliquey ones

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By *tallionExoticaMan
over a year ago

Islington

Being an ex-Muslim now turned Atheist / Secularist, I don't go around calling myself Atheist. But if people do ask me about my religious affiliation, I just simply state I don't believe in religion or just say I'm an Atheist.

But as reality has it, the curiosity arouses from those inquiring and then I tell them I'm an ex-Muslim.

That really gets them taken aback, as you don't get to listen much about us ex-Muslims. (Yes. We are there, and we do actually exist)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? it does not bother me, iam just asking peoples views

It clearly does bother you no it does not or i would say so

But you quite clearly said that people should be known by their nationality? And that being defined by religion creates invisible barriers? "
you need to stop putting words into other peoples replies as this must be clearly your thoughts to come up with adding thoughts and words that other people have not expressed

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I am a Scandinavian

a religion of drink and sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? it does not bother me, iam just asking peoples views

It clearly does bother you no it does not or i would say so

But you quite clearly said that people should be known by their nationality? And that being defined by religion creates invisible barriers? you need to stop putting words into other peoples replies as this must be clearly your thoughts to come up with adding thoughts and words that other people have not expressed"

But you typed it, go back and check before accusing others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? it does not bother me, iam just asking peoples views

It clearly does bother you no it does not or i would say so

But you typed it, go back and check before accusing others. "
well a dont apologise for not being in your clique and thankyou for adding to the thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a Scandinavian

a religion of drink and sex

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Yes and leggy women lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone looking for a Scandinavian shag tonight, or could assist with a milking? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Op you first went wrong when you started a thread other than kiss, pass, fuck and have been shot down!

Secondly, you are not allowed to make a post unless you are in the forum clique or you will be shot down!

Thirdly, agree to everyone elses opinion who is in mentioned clique or you will be shot down!

Can you see a pattern forming?

Oh am I an the clique then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

they do have some sexy ladies in that part of the world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? it does not bother me, iam just asking peoples views

It clearly does bother you no it does not or i would say so

But you typed it, go back and check before accusing others. well a dont apologise for not being in your clique and thankyou for adding to the thread"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just out of interest.. Why does it bother you? it does not bother me, iam just asking peoples views

It clearly does bother you no it does not or i would say so

But you typed it, go back and check before accusing others. well a dont apologise for not being in your clique and thankyou for adding to the thread"

I quoted you. I didn't paraphrase. it's what you said. So how have I got it wrong?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Op you first went wrong when you started a thread other than kiss, pass, fuck and have been shot down!

Secondly, you are not allowed to make a post unless you are in the forum clique or you will be shot down!

Thirdly, agree to everyone elses opinion who is in mentioned clique or you will be shot down!

Can you see a pattern forming?

yes you have a delusional perspective about the clique maybe..

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Op you first went wrong when you started a thread other than kiss, pass, fuck and have been shot down!

Secondly, you are not allowed to make a post unless you are in the forum clique or you will be shot down!

Thirdly, agree to everyone elses opinion who is in mentioned clique or you will be shot down!

Can you see a pattern forming?

I don't think it has anything to do with a clique.

The only pattern forming is that of the OP's choice of topics and the reasons for posting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did someone say clique

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Op you first went wrong when you started a thread other than kiss, pass, fuck and have been shot down!

Secondly, you are not allowed to make a post unless you are in the forum clique or you will be shot down!

Thirdly, agree to everyone elses opinion who is in mentioned clique or you will be shot down!

Can you see a pattern forming?

inded i rather not be in their clqiquey gang as they say ... a will voice my thought opinions as i feel as long as i follow fab guidlines and to fek with the cliquey ones

so if random people question a thread then they're in a 'clique'..?

or is it only those that have a differing opinion to your own?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it can be good thing. It shows you can be both British and Muslim, which a lot of people forget.

If people want to identify by religion, let them. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Op you first went wrong when you started a thread other than kiss, pass, fuck and have been shot down!

Secondly, you are not allowed to make a post unless you are in the forum clique or you will be shot down!

Thirdly, agree to everyone elses opinion who is in mentioned clique or you will be shot down!

Can you see a pattern forming?

I don't think it has anything to do with a clique.

The only pattern forming is that of the OP's choice of topics and the reasons for posting.

Think it's easier to say "yeh they're a clique" than to admit you've made a stupid observation that is kinda Islamophobic.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

i do apologies i am unable to aswer all these replies as busy watching racing and looking around in life, however i will endevour to answer at some point to the pandantic ones, as i dont require another fab time out and i feel some peoples reasoning is to this end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i do apologies i am unable to aswer all these replies as busy watching racing and looking around in life, however i will endevour to answer at some point to the pandantic ones, as i dont require another fab time out and i feel some peoples reasoning is to this end

You should be able to defend and articulate your original point without being abusive enough for a timeout.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless, of course, you don't actually care and just wanted to be antagonistic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"if your british why refer to yourself by religion?? my religion is catholic not british catholic.

whats your views??

classing yourself as british muslim.. we dont here german or french muslim"

Some do. People classify themselves lots of different ways.

Perhaps they are including the 'British' part to try to separate themselves from certain radical groups. Just saying 'muslim' can give some other people a certain opinion. They may want to avoid that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you are confusing people challenging you with being pedantic

This is almost as petulant as accusing people of being in a clique for disagreeing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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Is this as you antagonising people and bragging about it on another thread designed to antagonise regarding bareback,is getting peoples backs up something you enjoy?

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By *rank EinsteinMan
over a year ago

Burton upon stather

British Muslim sounds better as there is still a lot of stigma surrounding eastern mumslims due to being associated with terrorism, wife beating etc.

By saying British Muslim they are saying they are of British Nationality and Muslim religion.

So have likely not been involved with the extremist Eastern Muslims which give the religion a bad name.

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By *lavemazWoman
over a year ago

sale

"Earthling. Atheist (mostly harmless).

Earthling !!!!! Have you seen what earthlings do to each other, not harmless at all !!!

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Playing the 'clique are bullies' card is pretty lame when you get called out for trolling. Posting a thread when it seems you're only interested in a bun fight becomes obvious when you ignore genuine responses and trip yourself up on what you've posted for everyone to read.

No-one will get you 'another' time out other than yourself. You're responsible for your own posts. As are we all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont tar everyone with the same brush and obviously do not mean every person to have replied to this thread but if thats what you would like to assume then feel free

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Being an ex-Muslim now turned Atheist / Secularist, I don't go around calling myself Atheist. But if people do ask me about my religious affiliation, I just simply state I don't believe in religion or just say I'm an Atheist.

But as reality has it, the curiosity arouses from those inquiring and then I tell them I'm an ex-Muslim.

That really gets them taken aback, as you don't get to listen much about us ex-Muslims. (Yes. We are there, and we do actually exist)

I'm not sure if it's appropriate to ask or if you want to share but what made you turn your back on your faith? Hope you don't mind me asking?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont tar everyone with the same brush and obviously do not mean every person to have replied to this thread but if thats what you would like to assume then feel free

Nice back tracking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP posts inflammatory post same old people bite. The symbiotic cycle continues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People can identify however you like, mind your own business.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

But as reality has it, the curiosity arouses from those inquiring and then I tell them I'm an ex-Muslim.

That really gets them taken aback, as you don't get to listen much about us ex-Muslims. (Yes. We are there, and we do actually exist)

I'm not sure if it's appropriate to ask or if you want to share but what made you turn your back on your faith? Hope you don't mind me asking?

I would be really interested, too.

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By *huramMan
over a year ago

London

Why is nationality important?

You have no control over the piece of mud and stone you happened to be born in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Op you first went wrong when you started a thread other than kiss, pass, fuck and have been shot down!

Secondly, you are not allowed to make a post unless you are in the forum clique or you will be shot down!

Thirdly, agree to everyone elses opinion who is in mentioned clique or you will be shot down!

Can you see a pattern forming?

wow best and clearest post ever in these forums so true too needs to be cut n paste on most topics

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Why is nationality important?

You have no control over the piece of mud and stone you happened to be born in."

Agreed - and this is partially also true for your religion as it is mainly decided by your parents!

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Seeing as the thread was only created to cause a bit of controversy I'm going to close it

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