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By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago

birmingham

Well I was expecting the last bit of climbing gear I had ordered would be delivered today, but no luck on that one, have spent about a £130 on equipment, to try climbing up some tree's in my garden to chop them down a bit, I see this either going well or really badly lol, which do you think it will be ?

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By *CoastFunMan
over a year ago

Southampron

Have you any previous experience ascending and descending trees? If not then combine that with a chain saw and I think I know what I'd bet on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My brother is an experienced tree surgeon, I've seen what he does. I certainly wouldn't attempt such things with no training or experience!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

accidents with chainsaws are never minor

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By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago

birmingham

"Have you any previous experience ascending and descending trees? If not then combine that with a chain saw and I think I know what I'd bet on

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to experience in climbing tree's, just watching video footage, I plan to try getting used to the tree ascending and descending for a bit, when feeing ok with that side of things, then I will start cutting the big conifer down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you value your limbs over the trees limbs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

use a ladder

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spending £130 to cut your neighbours tree down? Hope she's worth it!

If you have no experience whatsoever, I would suggest you bin the macho image and forget about a chainsaw! There was a similar post to this a few months ago. Same advice given.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only an idiot would attempt tree surgery with no experience or training whatsoever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"use a ladder"

That'll probably be more dangerous! Depends how high and thick the branches you want to cut are but maybe try long handled loppers. Best thing to do is pay the professionals!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My brother is an experienced tree surgeon, I've seen what he does. I certainly wouldn't attempt such things with no training or experience!"

they train and learn that job expertly so i would not reccomend a novice to do it, plus a tre surgeon will of been cheaper than what you have spent

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Pay someone who is qualified!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Read your op wrong op! They're your trees. My apologies.

Same advice though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

op can you climb a tree at your age or will the fire brigade need calling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pay someone who is qualified! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

forum thread mid september

just been released from hospital tree successfully down along with one of my legs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Spending £130 to cut your neighbours tree down? Hope she's worth it!

If you have no experience whatsoever, I would suggest you bin the macho image and forget about a chainsaw! There was a similar post to this a few months ago. Same advice given."

Green arrow is your friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tree surgeon local to my area a few years back died falling out of a tree. It wasn't the height of the fall that did it he hit a log on he floor and damaged an artery in his neck and bled to death

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By *CoastFunMan
over a year ago

Southampron

"Have you any previous experience ascending and descending trees? If not then combine that with a chain saw and I think I know what I'd bet on

to experience in climbing tree's, just watching video footage, I plan to try getting used to the tree ascending and descending for a bit, when feeing ok with that side of things, then I will start cutting the big conifer down."

You're very brave. I've climbed trees using ascending and descending devices on single rope and the twin rope method using special knots. It's not only the equipment you need to know how to use, you need to know how to tie specific types of knots, how to rig things. Thinking about it I'm not sure now that you seriously have spent all that money on kit and you're just trolling us all?!

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"accidents with chainsaws are never minor

I'm experienced at both climbing and with a chainsaw

I need more training !

If you don't know if it will end up well or not ,I would strongly discourage you from your perilous idea

130 on gear? My rope alone cost more than that

Here's a suggestion

If you already own a £200 pair of protective trousers the correct gloves a protective all in one head piece then you might just survive

I guess as you are using climbing gear you're going to have an experienced person to belay you?

Im rather brave, have just finished some tree pruning and it always frightens me

Just keeping the blade below head height is challenging if at all practical?

Stay safe

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By *ack Genuine BullMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

You sound like an organ donor!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

You're gonna die.

Do you have a licence to use a chainsaw? or are you just using a hacksaw?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best place to start cutting a tree is from the bottom then run like hell !!!!!!!!!

Looking forward to the video on you tube

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

I really hope everything goes OK ... Try to reduce risks and concentrate on the job at hand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He just wants everyone to know he has a big chopper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

cheaper and safer aground to get it done professionally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He just wants everyone to know he has a big chopper

He might not have if he has an accident!

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

"He just wants everyone to know he has a big chopper

He might not have if he has an accident!"
he could have a lend of your strapon

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Best place to start cutting a tree is from the bottom then run like hell !!!!!!!!!

Looking forward to the video on you tube"

More like the Darwin Awards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get a professional in, don't want to see ( user no longer on site) on here in the near future, seriously mate.

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

Sounds like the OP is going from Tree surgeon to Medical surgeon in 1 easy lesson!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seriously Bud , I am experienced with a chain saw, I have all the protective clothing , boots and helmet. It costs hundreds of pounds just for the trousers .

I have had a chainsaw for years and use one regularly.

I have climbed trees to prune them as your doing , with a qualified tree surgeon. Its hard and dangerous work.

If you have never done this before . don't attempt it !!!

I have seen at first hand the damage a chainsaw can do . It doesn't cut it rips.

For your own safety , those around you and to stop bothering the emergency services

DONT DO IT !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"accidents with chainsaws are never minor

I'm experienced at both climbing and with a chainsaw

I need more training !

If you don't know if it will end up well or not ,I would strongly discourage you from your perilous idea

130 on gear? My rope alone cost more than that

Here's a suggestion

If you already own a £200 pair of protective trousers the correct gloves a protective all in one head piece then you might just survive

I guess as you are using climbing gear you're going to have an experienced person to belay you?

Im rather brave, have just finished some tree pruning and it always frightens me

Just keeping the blade below head height is challenging if at all practical?

Stay safe"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seriously Bud , I am experienced with a chain saw, I have all the protective clothing , boots and helmet. It costs hundreds of pounds just for the trousers .

I have had a chainsaw for years and use one regularly.

I have climbed trees to prune them as your doing , with a qualified tree surgeon. Its hard and dangerous work.

If you have never done this before . don't attempt it !!!

I have seen at first hand the damage a chainsaw can do . It doesn't cut it rips.

For your own safety , those around you and to stop bothering the emergency services

DONT DO IT !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Spending £130 to cut your neighbours tree down? Hope she's worth it!

If you have no experience whatsoever, I would suggest you bin the macho image and forget about a chainsaw! There was a similar post to this a few months ago. Same advice given.

Green arrow is your friend "

It certainly is!

Should have looked earlier!!

Is this a 'look at me thread'?

He could have cut the bloody thing down quite safely with a nail file by now!

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Seriously Bud , I am experienced with a chain saw, I have all the protective clothing , boots and helmet. It costs hundreds of pounds just for the trousers .

I have had a chainsaw for years and use one regularly.

I have climbed trees to prune them as your doing , with a qualified tree surgeon. Its hard and dangerous work.

If you have never done this before . don't attempt it !!!

I have seen at first hand the damage a chainsaw can do . It doesn't cut it rips.

For your own safety , those around you and to stop bothering the emergency services

DONT DO IT !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dynamite,,

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I never wanted to do this job in the first place!

I... I wanted to be...

A LUMBERJACK!

(piano vamp)

Leaping from tree to tree! As they float down the mighty rivers of

British Columbia! With my best girl by my side!

The Larch!

The Pine!

The Giant Redwood tree!

The Sequoia!

The Little Whopping Rule Tree!

We'd sing! Sing! Sing!

Oh, I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay,

I sleep all night and I work all day.

CHORUS: He's a lumberjack, and he's okay,

He sleeps all night and he works all day.

I cut down trees, I eat my lunch,

I go to the lava-try.

On Wednesdays I go shoppin'

And have buttered scones for tea.

Mounties: He cuts down trees, he eats his lunch,

He goes to the lava-try.

On Wednesdays 'e goes shoppin'

And has buttered scones for tea.

CHORUS

I cut down trees, I skip and jump,

I like to press wild flowers.

I put on women's clothing,

And hang around in bars.

Mounties: He cuts down trees, he skips and jumps,

He likes to press wild flowers.

He puts on women's clothing

And hangs around.... In bars???????

CHORUS

I chop down trees, I wear high heels,

Suspenders and a bra.

I wish I'd been a girlie

Just like my dear papa.

Mounties: He cuts down trees, he wears high heels

Suspenders?? and a .... a Bra????

(spoken, raggedly) What's this? Wants to be a "girlie"? Oh, My!

And I thought you were so rugged! Poofter!

CHORUS

All: He's a lumberjack, and he's okaaaaaaayyy..... (BONG)

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

a friend did it however what he didnt know is the tree was rotten when he was cutting it down

down it came and he was running like hell from it a branch went through his muscle on the leg and shattered bones with it as the tree landed on top of him

its still not right now and as goes for muscle well its cut up and its like a hole in there leg like its been eaten away is the term id use

pain killers galore and a leg vice with pins drilled all round

I wouldnt attempt a high one but pay for it to be cut down to a reasonable height after that id be using a chainsaw, tree wood saw myself on it

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Less is more when it comes to tree surgery. You can always go back and take a bit more off, you can't easily put it back on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Less is more when it comes to tree surgery. You can always go back and take a bit more off, you can't easily put it back on."

Same applies to limbs or any other extremities that might be sticking out!

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By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago

birmingham

Well you lot are not filling me with confidence lol. A few points some people have said it would be as cheap to get a pro in to do it with the cash I have spent on gear £130 aprox, well I did get a couple of quotes about 5 years ago, one wanted £400 the other £430 and that's just the conifer, I have other tree's that need a little taken off the top.

I know the dangers of deed branches and know what they look like, as we have plenty of them on the school ground at my place of work, only protection will be a standard building site style hat, to stop me falling out the tree, I will leave on the rope a hand ascender and a prosik cord attached to a rock climbing harness while I am cutting away at the tree, and I will use a bow saw as much as possible only use the chainsaw on the bigger parts,

And no I have not got a chainsaw licence, it's funny I have heard if you try to hire a chainsaw from a tool hire shop they will not give you one if you don't have a certificate to prove you have done a chainsaw course, Yet I can walk into BQ and buy one, don't figure lol, I will post a pic of the tree tomorrow you can see what I am tacking then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well you lot are not filling me with confidence lol. A few points some people have said it would be as cheap to get a pro in to do it with the cash I have spent on gear £130 aprox, well I did get a couple of quotes about 5 years ago, one wanted £400 the other £430 and that's just the conifer, I have other tree's that need a little taken off the top.

They charge so much because its a dangerous job and they're highly trained.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had a ten acre wood lot for twenty/five years, heated my home in northeast USA only with wood. Twitched logs with horses.

Felling trees is dangerous but what you propose is far more dangerous. Trees and branches do not always drop the way you think they will.

Good Luck - have someone with a mobile phone nearby with ambulance number - have a tourniquet at the ready.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jim a mate had a 30ft tree chopped and taken to recycling depot yesterday £220,

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By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago

birmingham

Jim a mate had a 30ft tree chopped and taken to recycling depot yesterday £220,

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well that price I would have been happy to pay

what part of the country was that ?

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

its not that pricey to get a tree surgeon its also the disposal that's the problem

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By *ildt123Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield

Ah go for it!

I have just removed 12 50 foot conifers with a ladder and a reciprocating saw. Used a chainsaw to log some of the bigger bits, it's common sense really. Take your time get used to the saw, most chainsaw accidents are people who do it all the time and get complacent and take short cuts. Don't!! Keep a healthy respect for it, get the proper gear and don't rush you will be fine

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"its not that pricey to get a tree surgeon its also the disposal that's the problem"

Buy a saw and a woodburner, problem solved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Errr how big is your tree? How big is the area you plan to trim or fell it in? Do you know how a chainsaw works and is it maintained and last whats your life insurance like for accidents and limb removal?

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By *ildt123Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield

Too right! I have about three years of free heating now

and I'm enjoying it too. Need a log sitter though

Tree surgeons are a fortune and they keep the wood!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jim a mate had a 30ft tree chopped and taken to recycling depot yesterday £220,

well that price I would have been happy to pay

what part of the country was that ?"

north east

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

Set Fire To Them.. and Claim it on you House Insurance..

If it all goes wrong..

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"Well I was expecting the last bit of climbing gear I had ordered would be delivered today, but no luck on that one, have spent about a £130 on equipment, to try climbing up some tree's in my garden to chop them down a bit, I see this either going well or really badly lol, which do you think it will be ?"
. I would not even contemplate using a chain saw unless both my feet were firmly on the ground . If you have no experience , you should at least consider putting up scaffolding around the tree and cutting it off in very small manageable pieces .

My advice would be to hire a professional. Do you know the correct tension at which to set the chain?. Have you got chainsaw gloves and a protective helmet?. Is your saw electric or petrol?.

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By *ot40sCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

OMG why are you all even bothering to give this guy advice

?? If he's that stupid to even attempt to cut the trees down with no experience then leave him to it

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"use a ladder"
. An extremely dangerous piece of advice . Unless you are a qualified tree surgeon a chain saw should only ever be used with both feet firmly on the ground .

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"op can you climb a tree at your age or will the fire brigade need calling"
. Why would his age prevent him climbing trees . I know a roofer who is over seventy .

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By *oyuer99Man
over a year ago

PRESTON

You realise that god is probably peeing himself at the cosmic joke of primates up a tree with a chain saw. I have a vision of him turning to Peter and saying Peter look at this I know we thought evolution would be funny but this is priceless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have you ever used a chainsaw before?

There is a massive difference Fri using on on the ground to using one up a tree.

You can react to the kicks on ground level . In the air they just unbalance you. It also needs to be tethered in case you drop it

Mate I just want you to be safe

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"Too right! I have about three years of free heating now

and I'm enjoying it too. Need a log sitter though

Tree surgeons are a fortune and they keep the wood!"
. However they are also fully trained and have full indemnity liability insurance . What happens if a large branch falls the wrong way and damages a neighbours garden..? I would prefer to pay the going rate and not risk my limbs .

I have two chain saws including one that can be extended to a height of 5 metres in order to operate it while standing on the ground . I would not even contemplate using them unless both feet were on the ground .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It can be quite nerve wracking climbing a tree with a chainsaw for the first time, a good tip to steady your nerves is to drink a bottle of vodka first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Too right! I have about three years of free heating now

and I'm enjoying it too. Need a log sitter though

Tree surgeons are a fortune and they keep the wood!. However they are also fully trained and have full indemnity liability insurance . What happens if a large branch falls the wrong way and damages a neighbours garden..? I would prefer to pay the going rate and not risk my limbs .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds as if somebody is heading for the Darwin Awards......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You just want to say "I've got wood" to your neighbour don't you?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sounds as if somebody is heading for the Darwin Awards......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you must do it don't use a chainsaw and try and anchor yourself to the tree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you must do it don't use a chainsaw and try and anchor yourself to the tree."

well said

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By *lovisMan
over a year ago

Twickenham

I'd ditch the chainsaw and use tannerite.

Go into youtube and type in 'Tannerite tree' for guidance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread should be in the stories and fantasy section!

If you use the green arrow, as was pointed out to me, you will find he posted exactly the same a couple of months ago.

The conifer is only 20' tall and unless it has been topped out before will not have a very large trunk on it, so could quite safely be cut down using a decent pruning saw! No climbing rope needed, no chainsaw needed. Just a fantasist look at me thread!

Imho

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By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago

birmingham

"This thread should be in the stories and fantasy section!

If you use the green arrow, as was pointed out to me, you will find he posted exactly the same a couple of months ago.

Imho"
correct I did post a little while ago saying I was thinking about doing this job, and after contemplating it I started to buy the climbing gear, just waiting for the hand ascender to arrive then I will be good to go. I also think I did say after that I had underestimated the height of the tree, even a pro would not try felling this tree in one peace,

Me and a mate have just been out there with a chainsaw cutting up limbs from the other tree's down the side of the garden that I cut down a few weeks ago, weather or not I manage to do the conifer remains to be seen, I will have a better idea once I get up there,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread should be in the stories and fantasy section!

If you use the green arrow, as was pointed out to me, you will find he posted exactly the same a couple of months ago.

Imho correct I did post a little while ago saying I was thinking about doing this job, and after contemplating it I started to buy the climbing gear, just waiting for the hand ascender to arrive then I will be good to go. I also think I did say after that I had underestimated the height of the tree, even a pro would not try felling this tree in one peace,

can we have a pic with you in ya mask and chainsaw

full length in case to loss anything up there

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I've used all kinds of potentially dangerous kit, including loaders, PTO driven bits and bobs, etc etc..

And the one that still scares me the most?

The chainsaw.

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By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago

birmingham

"This thread should be in the stories and fantasy section!

If you use the green arrow, as was pointed out to me, you will find he posted exactly the same a couple of months ago.

can we have a pic with you in ya mask and chainsaw

full length in case to loss anything up there

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just going out to take a pic of the big as tree and the others down the side of the garden

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

"This thread should be in the stories and fantasy section!

If you use the green arrow, as was pointed out to me, you will find he posted exactly the same a couple of months ago.

you were waiting for the hand ascender to arrive

this is to help you climb up the rope - who has climbed up to attach said rope to the top of the tree? if you can climb the tree to attach the rope you can cut the branches of as you go

the best method is still the same as i said 9 weeks ago in your previous thread

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By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago

birmingham

"This thread should be in the stories and fantasy section!

If you use the green arrow, as was pointed out to me, you will find he posted exactly the same a couple of months ago.

you were waiting for the hand ascender to arrive

this is to help you climb up the rope - who has climbed up to attach said rope to the top of the tree? if you can climb the tree to attach the rope you can cut the branches of as you go

the best method is still the same as i said 9 weeks ago in your previous thread

Cut lower branches off with a bush saw leave about 8in on the trunk and then work your way up it standing on the cut stumps till you just have the trunk then you can use the chainsaw to do the final felling"
after a bit of research I found a few methods of how to get your rope secured hi in the tree, you can do this from the ground, I want to be attached to a rope in case any of the branches I stand on break, I don't want to fall from up there

click the link to watch video on how to get your rope in the tree, I will be using the Alpine butterfly knot, shown about half way threw this short video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZl27v9JPsU

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless you know exactly what you're doing, call in the professionals - and no, I don't mean Bodie and Doyle.

Apart from the risk you pose to your own safety, if you don't know what you're doing, you could cause damage to fences, garden buildings etc, for which you will be liable.

Professional Tree-Fellers will be insured.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Did you get it all done OP?

I find I'm getting quite adept at judging just the right amount of alcohol to minimise my fear of heights, without taking unnecessary risks.

Besides it's always a comfort knowing Mrs ddc will provide a soft landing

Mr ddc

(Ps, apologies to the mods for any dodgy posts once the rest of the homemade Cointreau takes full effect...)

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By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago

birmingham

"Did you get it all done OP?

I find I'm getting quite adept at judging just the right amount of alcohol to minimise my fear of heights, without taking unnecessary risks.

Besides it's always a comfort knowing Mrs ddc will provide a soft landing

Mr ddc

(Ps, apologies to the mods for any dodgy posts once the rest of the homemade Cointreau takes full effect...)"
Hi ya, no the tree is still there lol, been struggling a bit to master the foot locking climbing technique so that has held up play, so I think I will need to use foot straps to make getting up there a bit easier,

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