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By *aughtythomas42 OP   Man
over a year ago

brighton

As dj's are we asked for good songs bad songs naff songs and then lost prophets so the debate is

Should will still play songs from

Gary Gilter

Roff Harris

Lost Prophets when requested

Every day you can still here MJ and we all know about him

So play or not play

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By *estinysswingersCouple
over a year ago

Worsley

Absolutely not. They all been convicted of awful crimes. If they're songs are being played they are getting royalties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Every day you can still here MJ and we all know about him"

Lol

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"As dj's are we asked for good songs bad songs naff songs and then lost prophets so the debate is

Should will still play songs from

Gary Gilter

Roff Harris

Lost Prophets when requested

Every day you can still here MJ and we all know about him

So play or not play "

MyJ was never tried or convicted of anything though.

Rolf Harris and Ian Walking ahow no remorse for what they have done. Rolf even wrote a song in prison calling his accusers money grabbing woken.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Absolutely not. They all been convicted of awful crimes. If they're songs are being played they are getting royalties. "

Do they still get them paid when in prison?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolutely not. They all been convicted of awful crimes. If they're songs are being played they are getting royalties.

Do they still get them paid when in prison?"
x

Yeah there always being collected until they have been public for so many yearsits a long time just can't remember how long. Even after they die the royalties pass to family. they just can't enjoy spending it from prison. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a tough one .

I think certain American football clubs still use Gary Glitters anthem when a goal is scored . It's a custom and most probably don't even know it's him . The fact he has been found guilty of heinous crimes against children many years after his fame and , let's face it , he was the leader for some 3 years in the 70s , doesn't make his hits any the less iconic .

It's impossible to look at the music from 1972 to 1975 without including his anthems . And radio and TV pretend he never existed . It was musical history , millions of singles and albums sold , a genre created and yet it's ignored .

Perhaps this is the right way to do it , ignorance is bliss . The law perhaps should change when a paedophile is found guilty , their royalties go to the victims . I don't have the answer , nor do I support artists getting the royalties , but to pretend their music never existed is somewhat naive . And what about the other musicians involved , and the songwriters ? They miss out and they've done nothing wrong .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a tough one .

I think certain American football clubs still use Gary Glitters anthem when a goal is scored . It's a custom and most probably don't even know it's him . The fact he has been found guilty of heinous crimes against children many years after his fame and , let's face it , he was the leader for some 3 years in the 70s , doesn't make his hits any the less iconic .

It's impossible to look at the music from 1972 to 1975 without including his anthems . And radio and TV pretend he never existed . It was musical history , millions of singles and albums sold , a genre created and yet it's ignored .

Perhaps this is the right way to do it , ignorance is bliss . The law perhaps should change when a paedophile is found guilty , their royalties go to the victims . I don't have the answer , nor do I support artists getting the royalties , but to pretend their music never existed is somewhat naive . And what about the other musicians involved , and the songwriters ? They miss out and they've done nothing wrong .

"

It's actually a Sammy Hagar song (Mas Tequil) but the guitar riff is the same as the Gary Glitter song.

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By *b coupleCouple
over a year ago

southampton

No!!!! However I do feel for the other band members. Must suck to have everything ripped away because of one disgusting idiot

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

The thing that gets me is that only Watkins committed the crimes. It's such a shame the other band members have to suffer. I can only imagine how they must feel.

I understand they have begun a new musical project though...not that I can remember what it's called!

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT


"No!!!! However I do feel for the other band members. Must suck to have everything ripped away because of one disgusting idiot "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe that particular persons share of the royalties should go to a better purpose for the duration of there sentence? I'm not sure it's a tough one.

For a child abuser it would be easy to say no but...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

It's actually a Sammy Hagar song (Mas Tequil) but the guitar riff is the same as the Gary Glitter song."

nope... its definately gary glitter's rock n roll parts 1 & 2 played at a lot of us sporting events... although that is now beginning to be shyed away from

my university use to play it... it doesn't anymore

its a bit like the time a mobile phone went off playing the "jim'll fix it tune"... a part of me went "yey! childhood"... and a bit of me when "ooooh.... can't play that anymore!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The rational answer is yes it should be played and yes he should still get royalties.

Not because I like him or what he did, but because anything else doesn't make sense under common law.

It should be played because people need to grow up and stop thinking that the ability to play a guitar / throw or kick a ball / walk down a catwalk qualifies someone as a good human being.

He should get the royalties because he earned them for music, not his crimes. But he should also be fined the fuck out of for his crimes, let's say to the exact same amount of all his wealth from music...

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By *ildt123Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield

These vile creatures used their fame to help them offend, so I'd be happy that their royalties are " proceeds of crime". As such they can be removed, given to the victims. As it stands it's difficult but I'd go with no don't play them, but as others have said I feel sorry for others in the band etc.

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains


"

It's actually a Sammy Hagar song (Mas Tequil) but the guitar riff is the same as the Gary Glitter song.

nope... its definately gary glitter's rock n roll parts 1 & 2 played at a lot of us sporting events... although that is now beginning to be shyed away from

my university use to play it... it doesn't anymore

its a bit like the time a mobile phone went off playing the "jim'll fix it tune"... a part of me went "yey! childhood"... and a bit of me when "ooooh.... can't play that anymore!""

We have this discussion at work regularly.. Mainly when my boss goes "now then.." And he is so used to doing it in that voice and has to stop himself!

I don't think it's right to play stuff by lost prophets which is a shame as I liked their stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It's actually a Sammy Hagar song (Mas Tequil) but the guitar riff is the same as the Gary Glitter song.

nope... its definately gary glitter's rock n roll parts 1 & 2 played at a lot of us sporting events... although that is now beginning to be shyed away from

my university use to play it... it doesn't anymore

its a bit like the time a mobile phone went off playing the "jim'll fix it tune"... a part of me went "yey! childhood"... and a bit of me when "ooooh.... can't play that anymore!""

The thing is it's easy to agree we don't like child abusers. The problem is that once we label a group of people as basically non-human, however vile they are, that category will quickly grow.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Its a shame the rest of the band cannot benefit from the playing of their songs when it wasn't them who broke the law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But would anyone even request their songs.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would never play them as anyway they are shite

What they did just gives a reason d*unk people can't argue with lol

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT


"These vile creatures used their fame to help them offend, so I'd be happy that their royalties are " proceeds of crime". As such they can be removed, given to the victims. As it stands it's difficult but I'd go with no don't play them, but as others have said I feel sorry for others in the band etc."

Somewhat maybe...but there are bloody loads of paedophiles in the world without an ounce of fame, or money.

If Watkins was a 'less famous' member of the band, do you think we'd be discussing whether or not to play his band's music?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Would never play them as anyway they are shite

What they did just gives a reason d*unk people can't argue with lol"

They?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh and don't think the Beeb will be running repeat episodes of Jim will fix it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would never play them as anyway they are shite

What they did just gives a reason d*unk people can't argue with lol

They?"

Yes Rolf Harris Gary glitter etc = they

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As dj's are we asked for good songs bad songs naff songs and then lost prophets so the debate is

Should will still play songs from

Gary Gilter

Roff Harris

Lost Prophets when requested

Every day you can still here MJ and we all know about him

So play or not play

MyJ was never tried or convicted of anything though.

Rolf Harris and Ian Walking ahow no remorse for what they have done. Rolf even wrote a song in prison calling his accusers money grabbing woken.

"

Actually, Michael Jackson DID stand trial and was acquitted.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Would never play them as anyway they are shite

What they did just gives a reason d*unk people can't argue with lol

They?

Yes Rolf Harris Gary glitter etc = they"

Ahh.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence? "

Well, Jeffrey Archer should go for a start!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It's actually a Sammy Hagar song (Mas Tequil) but the guitar riff is the same as the Gary Glitter song.

nope... its definately gary glitter's rock n roll parts 1 & 2 played at a lot of us sporting events... although that is now beginning to be shyed away from

my university use to play it... it doesn't anymore

its a bit like the time a mobile phone went off playing the "jim'll fix it tune"... a part of me went "yey! childhood"... and a bit of me when "ooooh.... can't play that anymore!""

I was always told it was the Hagar tune because I thought it was Rock n Roll.

Maybe some teams use one and others use the other. They're very similar....

https://youtu.be/hdMfCNyeGg0

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence? "

But surely by that logic once the person has served their sentence public access to their work would then be made available again.....

I don't want more controls placed on my freedom of choice, I think all we need to do its trust the public to make the right choices ,,,,,

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence?

But surely by that logic once the person has served their sentence public access to their work would then be made available again.....

I don't want more controls placed on my freedom of choice, I think all we need to do its trust the public to make the right choices ,,,,, "

Once something is in the public domain it is nigh on impossible to stop people having access to it. Folk have already bought Lost Prophets' cd,s, Jeffrey Archer books even Ken Dodd dvd's etc., but should they be withdrawn from sale whilst the guilty party is serving their sentence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Technically speaking, we should no longer play any AC/DC either, since their drummer has been convicted of serious offences.

I do rather think that this is rather harsh on the other members of the band though.

That said, I don't tend to get much call for AC/DC.

Never once, in 24 years of jocking have I been asked to play any Rolf Harris.

Although, we did play his version of Stairway to heaven when it first came out, and of course, back in the day, we also used to play a few Gary Glitter numbers - but that was long before he was convicted of his crimes - and we'd stopped playing his stuff a while beforehand anyway.

A lot of stuff tends to go in and out of favour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both of us grew up with Gary Glitters music and liked it,it's part of our past and that cannot be erased.

So yes, they should play their stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I don't want more controls placed on my freedom of choice, I think all we need to do its trust the public to make the right choices ,,,,, "

I agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The rational answer is yes it should be played and yes he should still get royalties.

Not because I like him or what he did, but because anything else doesn't make sense under common law.

It should be played because people need to grow up and stop thinking that the ability to play a guitar / throw or kick a ball / walk down a catwalk qualifies someone as a good human being.

He should get the royalties because he earned them for music, not his crimes. But he should also be fined the fuck out of for his crimes, let's say to the exact same amount of all his wealth from music... "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I loved Lost Prophets but cannot bring myself to listen to them anymore without feeling sick. It's a real shame for the rest of his band members.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I loved Lost Prophets but cannot bring myself to listen to them anymore without feeling sick. It's a real shame for the rest of his band members. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing that gets me is that only Watkins committed the crimes. It's such a shame the other band members have to suffer. I can only imagine how they must feel.

I understand they have begun a new musical project though...not that I can remember what it's called! "

I do believe they are called No Devotion

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"The rational answer is yes it should be played and yes he should still get royalties.

Not because I like him or what he did, but because anything else doesn't make sense under common law.

It should be played because people need to grow up and stop thinking that the ability to play a guitar / throw or kick a ball / walk down a catwalk qualifies someone as a good human being.

He should get the royalties because he earned them for music, not his crimes. But he should also be fined the fuck out of for his crimes, let's say to the exact same amount of all his wealth from music... "

An excellent use of logic.

Very clever. Could easily be written into law.

They can never declare bankruptcy either as they will have an income stream.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a tough one .

I think certain American football clubs still use Gary Glitters anthem when a goal is scored . It's a custom and most probably don't even know it's him . The fact he has been found guilty of heinous crimes against children many years after his fame and , let's face it , he was the leader for some 3 years in the 70s , doesn't make his hits any the less iconic .

It's impossible to look at the music from 1972 to 1975 without including his anthems . And radio and TV pretend he never existed . It was musical history , millions of singles and albums sold , a genre created and yet it's ignored .

Perhaps this is the right way to do it , ignorance is bliss . The law perhaps should change when a paedophile is found guilty , their royalties go to the victims . I don't have the answer , nor do I support artists getting the royalties , but to pretend their music never existed is somewhat naive . And what about the other musicians involved , and the songwriters ? They miss out and they've done nothing wrong .

"

That last line is the galling thing. In the case of the lostprophets especially. They had no idea what he was up too and have had there careers destroyed through no fault of their own. They had some great songs. Still having said that I'm not comfortable listening to them any more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes definitely play the music there are still people who like it. The rest of the band didn't do anything and the music was good before and still is. Just because you like or play the songs doesn't mean you're condoning him does it?!

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

I am reasonably sure that Glitter sold the rights to his songwriting before he even went to PC World, so he wouldn't make any money even if his material was played.

As with the rest of Lostprophets, most Glitter material was Co written by the innocent Mike Leander. So we end up in a situation where Glitter has, in theory, paid his debt to society, and Watkins will also (his sentence was

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

...massive), yet it's their innocent unknowing colleagues who continue to be penalised.

Meanwhile, we continue to listen to

Jerry Lee Lewis (married 13 year old)

Led Zeppelin (Page's affair with teenage girl)

And anything produced by Phil Spector (murder)

Suicide is illegal, so that's Nirvana off the playlist.

Etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...massive), yet it's their innocent unknowing colleagues who continue to be penalised.

Meanwhile, we continue to listen to

Jerry Lee Lewis (married 13 year old)

Led Zeppelin (Page's affair with teenage girl)

And anything produced by Phil Spector (murder)

Suicide is illegal, so that's Nirvana off the playlist.

Etc etc

"

Hmm you make a good point sir.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

Hypothetically, could I listen to Lostprophets if I illegally downloaded it?

The criminal doesn't get income, I can still listen to some decent tunes....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence?

But surely by that logic once the person has served their sentence public access to their work would then be made available again.....

I don't want more controls placed on my freedom of choice, I think all we need to do its trust the public to make the right choices ,,,,,

Once something is in the public domain it is nigh on impossible to stop people having access to it. Folk have already bought Lost Prophets' cd,s, Jeffrey Archer books even Ken Dodd dvd's etc., but should they be withdrawn from sale whilst the guilty party is serving their sentence?"

Ken Dodd??? Have I missed something?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence?

But surely by that logic once the person has served their sentence public access to their work would then be made available again.....

I don't want more controls placed on my freedom of choice, I think all we need to do its trust the public to make the right choices ,,,,,

Once something is in the public domain it is nigh on impossible to stop people having access to it. Folk have already bought Lost Prophets' cd,s, Jeffrey Archer books even Ken Dodd dvd's etc., but should they be withdrawn from sale whilst the guilty party is serving their sentence?

Ken Dodd??? Have I missed something? "

He went to prison for fraud or something.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence?

But surely by that logic once the person has served their sentence public access to their work would then be made available again.....

I don't want more controls placed on my freedom of choice, I think all we need to do its trust the public to make the right choices ,,,,,

Once something is in the public domain it is nigh on impossible to stop people having access to it. Folk have already bought Lost Prophets' cd,s, Jeffrey Archer books even Ken Dodd dvd's etc., but should they be withdrawn from sale whilst the guilty party is serving their sentence?

Ken Dodd??? Have I missed something?

He went to prison for fraud or something."

Tax evasion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was a massive fan of lost prophets, I bought every album saw them live, you name it, when the news broke of what Ian Watkins had done, I was shocked, and disgusted, like any half decent human being would be, I haven't played any of their music since, it's not as a protest, I just can't face listening to it knowing what he did, and I think a lot if people feel the same, so as to the question should a DJ play their music, I don't think the answer lies in the royalties angle, I think it's more to do with people not wanting to listen to it, and they don't want to be reminded that they bought these records, and helped build a career for a man that used his fame and fortune to facilitate such disgusting crimes

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT


"The thing that gets me is that only Watkins committed the crimes. It's such a shame the other band members have to suffer. I can only imagine how they must feel.

I understand they have begun a new musical project though...not that I can remember what it's called!

I do believe they are called No Devotion

"

Nice name and thanks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was a big Lost Prophets fan, I've seen them live a few times, have tour tshirts, have all the albums etc. One of their tracks is a favourite of mine and I have played it since. Every time I do though the thoughts of 'im really shocked that Ian Watkins did such disgusting things" goes through my head so I can't enjoy it the same.

The other members of that band worked hard though and it is a shame that this happened to them.

The Criminal Injuries Compensation Board will assess and pay out compensation to victims and this is taken from the offenders assets. The proceeds of Dr Shipman's house and other assets were paid to his victims families.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence?

But surely by that logic once the person has served their sentence public access to their work would then be made available again.....

I don't want more controls placed on my freedom of choice, I think all we need to do its trust the public to make the right choices ,,,,,

Once something is in the public domain it is nigh on impossible to stop people having access to it. Folk have already bought Lost Prophets' cd,s, Jeffrey Archer books even Ken Dodd dvd's etc., but should they be withdrawn from sale whilst the guilty party is serving their sentence?

Ken Dodd??? Have I missed something?

He went to prison for fraud or something.

Tax evasion."

He always looked a bit shifty thiugh didn't he

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had my schoolbag signed by Ian Watkins, how grim is that?!

I still have their songs on some Spotify playlists & it often causes a bit of debate when they come on when I have people over. I'm not letting one man's actions ruin the memories I have of the band though.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


" I'm not letting one man's actions ruin the memories I have of the band though."

Spot on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The music is innocent, only the artists are guilty!!

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By *aughtythomas42 OP   Man
over a year ago

brighton


"But would anyone even request their songs.....

"

they get requested every week

10% are just to take the piss and see what we say

the other 90% is cos the music is still good and people like it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow what an amazing post in the sense that the lost prophets are a great band and one song especialy is in my all time fav list and unfortunately since the this sick and very sad story emerged I haven't heard or listened to this band and don't plan too either .

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By *aughtythomas42 OP   Man
over a year ago

brighton


"Wow what an amazing post in the sense that the lost prophets are a great band and one song especialy is in my all time fav list and unfortunately since the this sick and very sad story emerged I haven't heard or listened to this band and don't plan too either . "

Being part of this music scene for the last 20 years and having worked with the band in Brighton in the early days I was shocked I spent time with the band I really don't think any of them know what was going and still knowing the people at they label they had no clue the music was and is great and it's a shame we can't separate it from the singer

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Personally, I think a DJ should play any songs they are asked to by the people paying them. When I do DJ jobs, I never feel the need to impose my views or morals on anyone else.

If I am choosing the tunes myself, I probably wouldn't think to pick a Role Harris song generally. But that's because they're mainly crap.

On the other hand, I wouldn't refuse to play any song because of who wrote/recorded it, I believe that are surpasses politics. A song doesn't become less good if it was written by a wander. .

Cal

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow what an amazing post in the sense that the lost prophets are a great band and one song especialy is in my all time fav list and unfortunately since the this sick and very sad story emerged I haven't heard or listened to this band and don't plan too either .

Being part of this music scene for the last 20 years and having worked with the band in Brighton in the early days I was shocked I spent time with the band I really don't think any of them know what was going and still knowing the people at they label they had no clue the music was and is great and it's a shame we can't separate it from the singer"

Did some great song's.

Should the other band members suffer because of him?

But why should he get royalties.

It's a difficult one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a club dj you'll either already have the track or you won't, so the royalties thing doesn't apply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The other day I was in town and had my iPod on and a lost prophets songs came on and I though damn they were a good band, whist what he did was disgusting I can't let it stop me enjoying the bands music, it's my way of showing support to the other members of the band

Steph

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a club dj you'll either already have the track or you won't, so the royalties thing doesn't apply. "

You learn something new everyday. Is it different if played on a radio station? I always thought they paid per play?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would never play them as anyway they are shite

What they did just gives a reason d*unk people can't argue with lol"

xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a club dj you'll either already have the track or you won't, so the royalties thing doesn't apply.

You learn something new everyday. Is it different if played on a radio station? I always thought they paid per play?"

Just search Gary Glitter royalties and you'll see why I'm gonna punch Noel Gallagher if I ever see him... Grrrrrr

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing that gets me is that only Watkins committed the crimes. It's such a shame the other band members have to suffer. I can only imagine how they must feel.

I understand they have begun a new musical project though...not that I can remember what it's called! "

Feel sorry for Lisa ,Fay,Claire and the other lad no one remembers !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing that gets me is that only Watkins committed the crimes. It's such a shame the other band members have to suffer. I can only imagine how they must feel.

I understand they have begun a new musical project though...not that I can remember what it's called!

Feel sorry for Lisa ,Fay,Claire and the other lad no one remembers !

"

Lee and that's steps lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Musicians are vastly overpaid.

They have no unique talent, in fact I've got a friend who's a window cleaner,can play nearly every guitar solo completely indistinguishable from the original!

It's a self perpetuated industry and most of it wouldn't even exist without excessive marketing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Musicians are vastly overpaid.

They have no unique talent, in fact I've got a friend who's a window cleaner,can play nearly every guitar solo completely indistinguishable from the original!

It's a self perpetuated industry and most of it wouldn't even exist without excessive marketing!"

Wow you really spout some don't you? Do you get a kick out of trolling threads?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Musicians are vastly overpaid.

They have no unique talent, in fact I've got a friend who's a window cleaner,can play nearly every guitar solo completely indistinguishable from the original!

It's a self perpetuated industry and most of it wouldn't even exist without excessive marketing!"

You could say that about a lot of things marketing wise.

But saying they aren't uniquely talented is a genralism. By that standard I can sing like Mariah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow what an amazing post in the sense that the lost prophets are a great band and one song especialy is in my all time fav list and unfortunately since the this sick and very sad story emerged I haven't heard or listened to this band and don't plan too either .

Being part of this music scene for the last 20 years and having worked with the band in Brighton in the early days I was shocked I spent time with the band I really don't think any of them know what was going and still knowing the people at they label they had no clue the music was and is great and it's a shame we can't separate it from the singer

Did some great song's.

Should the other band members suffer because of him?

But why should he get royalties.

It's a difficult one. "

Exactly how I feel and put accros better than I tried , can't put blame on anyone else connected unless otherwise proven and as for the songs , what if in years down the line another band sampled or covered one of there tracks ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As dj's are we asked for good songs bad songs naff songs and then lost prophets so the debate is

Should will still play songs from

Gary Gilter

Roff Harris

Lost Prophets when requested

Every day you can still here MJ and we all know about him

So play or not play

MyJ was never tried or convicted of anything though.

Rolf Harris and Ian Walking ahow no remorse for what they have done. Rolf even wrote a song in prison calling his accusers money grabbing woken.

"
MJ slept in the same bed with other children whe in his 40s that to me is weird!

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By *unkydesignCouple
over a year ago

Manchester


"As dj's are we asked for good songs bad songs naff songs and then lost prophets so the debate is

Should will still play songs from

Gary Gilter

Roff Harris

Lost Prophets when requested

Every day you can still here MJ and we all know about him

So play or not play

MyJ was never tried or convicted of anything though.

Rolf Harris and Ian Walking ahow no remorse for what they have done. Rolf even wrote a song in prison calling his accusers money grabbing woken.

MJ slept in the same bed with other children whe in his 40s that to me is weird!"

I've slept in the same bed as a dozen other couples along with my partner...that to many people is weird

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Musicians are vastly overpaid.

They have no unique talent, in fact I've got a friend who's a window cleaner,can play nearly every guitar solo completely indistinguishable from the original!

It's a self perpetuated industry and most of it wouldn't even exist without excessive marketing!

You could say that about a lot of things marketing wise.

But saying they aren't uniquely talented is a genralism. By that standard I can sing like Mariah "
.

No not really!

Why do the rolling stones still command 1k for concert tickets!

A because there the stones

B because the oaps are clearly 950 pounds better than the average band!

The bootleg beetles are as good as the real beetles, I've seen then dozens of times....

I saw led Zeppelin tribute band you couldn't even distinguish from the real led Zeppelin, paid £16 for tickets and the venue only held 500 ish!

If they did 20,000 venues that price might drop to 80p?

People feeling they get value for money doesn't actually mean there getting value for money does it!

Why did seasick Steve do what he does now for nothing for 20 years but today doing the exact same thing earns millions? I mean would he have the same appeal if he only earnt 50 quid a night!!

There is the power of marketing in my opinion and why musicians are overpaid for what they do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Musicians are vastly overpaid.

They have no unique talent, in fact I've got a friend who's a window cleaner,can play nearly every guitar solo completely indistinguishable from the original!

It's a self perpetuated industry and most of it wouldn't even exist without excessive marketing!

You could say that about a lot of things marketing wise.

But saying they aren't uniquely talented is a genralism. By that standard I can sing like Mariah .

No not really!

Why do the rolling stones still command 1k for concert tickets!

A because there the stones

B because the oaps are clearly 950 pounds better than the average band!

The bootleg beetles are as good as the real beetles, I've seen then dozens of times....

I saw led Zeppelin tribute band you couldn't even distinguish from the real led Zeppelin, paid £16 for tickets and the venue only held 500 ish!

If they did 20,000 venues that price might drop to 80p?

People feeling they get value for money doesn't actually mean there getting value for money does it!

Why did seasick Steve do what he does now for nothing for 20 years but today doing the exact same thing earns millions? I mean would he have the same appeal if he only earnt 50 quid a night!!

There is the power of marketing in my opinion and why musicians are overpaid for what they do"

If you noticed...clearly not. I don't disagree with your marketing rant.

I disagree with you saying none of them are uniquely talented!

There are shit bands but there's amazingly talented ones too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a club dj you'll either already have the track or you won't, so the royalties thing doesn't apply.

You learn something new everyday. Is it different if played on a radio station? I always thought they paid per play?"

I have no idea! I'd imagine so though, yeah.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a dj of 27 years, I have no qualms about dropping music by convicted sex offenders from my collection.There's enough good music out there by artists that didn't use their position to mess with kids.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"As a dj of 27 years, I have no qualms about dropping music by convicted sex offenders from my collection.There's enough good music out there by artists that didn't use their position to mess with kids."

Is it just child abuse? What about rape, murder,suicide, drug abuse, drink driving, tax evasion, speeding, petty theft?

Let him who is without sin write the first song?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thing I find strange is ok the prophets were an amazing band and he was one very sick puppy and so was Jack. Yet people have no issue with Michael Jackson! Before anyone one says he was found innocent, so was Saville legally speaking as he was never charged let alone convicted. (Yes we all know he did the crimes but so did Jackson yet he seems to have got some sort of public pardon)

Is one paedophile better than another??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Must be a banging party if Two Little Boys is on the set list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing that gets me is that only Watkins committed the crimes. It's such a shame the other band members have to suffer. I can only imagine how they must feel.

I understand they have begun a new musical project though...not that I can remember what it's called!

Feel sorry for Lisa ,Fay,Claire and the other lad no one remembers !

Lee and that's steps lol"

Yes Lee latchford Evans just testing to see if you was a steps fan

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence?

But surely by that logic once the person has served their sentence public access to their work would then be made available again.....

I don't want more controls placed on my freedom of choice, I think all we need to do its trust the public to make the right choices ,,,,,

Once something is in the public domain it is nigh on impossible to stop people having access to it. Folk have already bought Lost Prophets' cd,s, Jeffrey Archer books even Ken Dodd dvd's etc., but should they be withdrawn from sale whilst the guilty party is serving their sentence?

Ken Dodd??? Have I missed something?

He went to prison for fraud or something."

Erm no he have a very good brief

Dodd was represented by George Carman, who in court famously quipped, "Some accountants are comedians, but comedians are never accountants". The trial lasted three weeks: Dodd was acquitted.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"As a club dj you'll either already have the track or you won't, so the royalties thing doesn't apply.

You learn something new everyday. Is it different if played on a radio station? I always thought they paid per play?

Just search Gary Glitter royalties and you'll see why I'm gonna punch Noel Gallagher if I ever see him... Grrrrrr "

To be fair Oasis wrote that before he was convicted of anything. It's hard to be grumpy with them when he was not even a suspect.

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By *tandingtallMan
over a year ago

york

No

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By *aughtythomas42 OP   Man
over a year ago

brighton


"Must be a banging party if Two Little Boys is on the set list"

All I can say is

"Main stage Glastonbury"

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By *aymondBaroneMan
over a year ago

Manchester

If you enjoy a song or band then you should listen to them. It's not physically hurting anyone or helping them do anything anymore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry OP, going to open the question up a little here.

Should it just apply to music though? Which crimes are heinous enough to warrant a boycott on anything produced or starring someone who has been found guilty of such an offence?

But surely by that logic once the person has served their sentence public access to their work would then be made available again.....

I don't want more controls placed on my freedom of choice, I think all we need to do its trust the public to make the right choices ,,,,,

Once something is in the public domain it is nigh on impossible to stop people having access to it. Folk have already bought Lost Prophets' cd,s, Jeffrey Archer books even Ken Dodd dvd's etc., but should they be withdrawn from sale whilst the guilty party is serving their sentence?

Ken Dodd??? Have I missed something?

He went to prison for fraud or something.

Tax evasion."

He never actually went to prison. He came clean when HMRC prompted him and paid up!

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