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"Acceptable or heinous? " Do you really have to ask? | |||
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"Good cover up!!!" Sorry,I don't get what you imply. | |||
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"I'm tempted to report to the police. A young couple of 19 & 21. A complete disgrace." Oh dear , report to the police ? So you'll tell them you are on a swingers site and we're looking for a meet when you were outraged at this ? Good luck with that | |||
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"Yes there are , and there will be plenty who frown upon wherever dogging takes place . Having thought about this one for a while , we would certainly be up for some dogging in a cemetery . Not to be disrespectful , but because we are into black metal music , cradle of filth etc..... And we enjoy dogging , so it would certainly work for us " Of course it's disrespectful, does liking a certain type of music affect ones morals then..? would you feel the same way if you had a close relative, a child or parent buried in there? | |||
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"Acceptable or heinous? " Slagging them off on your status is acceptable though op? Just saying | |||
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"Yes there are , and there will be plenty who frown upon wherever dogging takes place . Having thought about this one for a while , we would certainly be up for some dogging in a cemetery . Not to be disrespectful , but because we are into black metal music , cradle of filth etc..... And we enjoy dogging , so it would certainly work for us Of course it's disrespectful, does liking a certain type of music affect ones morals then..? would you feel the same way if you had a close relative, a child or parent buried in there? " It's not like we would do it over a coffin , the gothic scenario is one we like . I guess some of the paraphenalia associated with the music and bands is seen as disrespectful by certain sections of society , but that's part of the appeal . A bit like through the generations , rock and roll in the fifties , the hippys , glam rock , punk etc..... And if I'm honest , we are so used to be judged on here , we may as well put this one out there . | |||
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"Yes there are , and there will be plenty who frown upon wherever dogging takes place . Having thought about this one for a while , we would certainly be up for some dogging in a cemetery . Not to be disrespectful , but because we are into black metal music , cradle of filth etc..... And we enjoy dogging , so it would certainly work for us Of course it's disrespectful, does liking a certain type of music affect ones morals then..? would you feel the same way if you had a close relative, a child or parent buried in there? It's not like we would do it over a coffin , the gothic scenario is one we like . I guess some of the paraphenalia associated with the music and bands is seen as disrespectful by certain sections of society , but that's part of the appeal . A bit like through the generations , rock and roll in the fifties , the hippys , glam rock , punk etc..... And if I'm honest , we are so used to be judged on here , we may as well put this one out there . " To be honest anyone having sex on an empty coffin wouldn't be an issue, but on some ones grave that's wrong.. the genres you mention had their own elements of reaction and rebelling etc yes but not that i know of anything similar.. | |||
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"what's gonna be asked next, it necrophilia is okay?" Only if it's consensual | |||
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"Who really cares what they get up too..!? Their not forcing you to watch them, Chances are nobody will even know when it's going on. Just let them get on with their own lives. " it goes on up and down the country but if i seen it in close proxim to a relative or friend thats burried a would fuck them off | |||
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"Who really cares what they get up too..!? Their not forcing you to watch them, Chances are nobody will even know when it's going on. Just let them get on with their own lives. it goes on up and down the country but if i seen it in close proxim to a relative or friend thats burried a would fuck them off" That's fair enough if you caught them at it!. ....But what you don't know won't hurt you. | |||
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"Who really cares what they get up too..!? Their not forcing you to watch them, Chances are nobody will even know when it's going on. Just let them get on with their own lives. it goes on up and down the country but if i seen it in close proxim to a relative or friend thats burried a would fuck them off That's fair enough if you caught them at it!. ....But what you don't know won't hurt you. " Thats not the point!!! So you'd be okay 'not knowing' that someone was fucking over or near your dead mothers grave. Well I tell you now the very thought of it makes me sick & extremely upset. | |||
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"Who really cares what they get up too..!? Their not forcing you to watch them, Chances are nobody will even know when it's going on. Just let them get on with their own lives. it goes on up and down the country but if i seen it in close proxim to a relative or friend thats burried a would fuck them off That's fair enough if you caught them at it!. ....But what you don't know won't hurt you. Thats not the point!!! So you'd be okay 'not knowing' that someone was fucking over or near your dead mothers grave. Well I tell you now the very thought of it makes me sick & extremely upset. " the thing is not to think of it .. hence this thread should disapear | |||
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"Who really cares what they get up too..!? Their not forcing you to watch them, Chances are nobody will even know when it's going on. Just let them get on with their own lives. it goes on up and down the country but if i seen it in close proxim to a relative or friend thats burried a would fuck them off That's fair enough if you caught them at it!. ....But what you don't know won't hurt you. Thats not the point!!! So you'd be okay 'not knowing' that someone was fucking over or near your dead mothers grave. Well I tell you now the very thought of it makes me sick & extremely upset. " And some, knowing that, will gleefully use that to try to upset you in future, for "fun". Such is the way of fab. | |||
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"Who really cares what they get up too..!? Their not forcing you to watch them, Chances are nobody will even know when it's going on. Just let them get on with their own lives. it goes on up and down the country but if i seen it in close proxim to a relative or friend thats burried a would fuck them off That's fair enough if you caught them at it!. ....But what you don't know won't hurt you. Thats not the point!!! So you'd be okay 'not knowing' that someone was fucking over or near your dead mothers grave. Well I tell you now the very thought of it makes me sick & extremely upset. the thing is not to think of it .. hence this thread should disapear" | |||
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"Who really cares what they get up too..!? Their not forcing you to watch them, Chances are nobody will even know when it's going on. Just let them get on with their own lives. it goes on up and down the country but if i seen it in close proxim to a relative or friend thats burried a would fuck them off That's fair enough if you caught them at it!. ....But what you don't know won't hurt you. Thats not the point!!! So you'd be okay 'not knowing' that someone was fucking over or near your dead mothers grave. Well I tell you now the very thought of it makes me sick & extremely upset. And some, knowing that, will gleefully use that to try to upset you in future, for "fun". Such is the way of fab." Well then they are truly sick in the head.... | |||
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"I think it is vulgar and disrespectful to tarnish somebody's final resting place in this way. Whilst there is nothing wrong with having kinks and fantasies, doing something that could cause a great deal of distress to the families of the deceased is morally wrong in my opinion. There are also children buried in cemeteries. I have friends who are unfortunate enough to have to visit their children's graves. Would not wish that on my worst enemy. I know that the cemetery to them is a place of peace and comfort. They go there to reflect, mourn and remember. How anyone would think that their own sexual gratification is more important than respecting this is really beyond my comprehension. " | |||
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"there was a swingers party at the cemetery and everyone was dying to get in... " Did they all have a stiffy? | |||
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"It's actually far more common than you think . Did a Google search and there are loads of interesting places to do it Kind of gratifying to know we aren't the only ones who find this very erotic " I know of one cemetery where it happens but it only goes on in the car park. Have also seen some people post status updates about it on here. | |||
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"It's actually far more common than you think . Did a Google search and there are loads of interesting places to do it Kind of gratifying to know we aren't the only ones who find this very erotic I know of one cemetery where it happens but it only goes on in the car park. Have also seen some people post status updates about it on here. " See you there | |||
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"its a trophie shot to get your pic taken fucking on a famous persons grave" Yeah but going by the majority on this thread , one would be treated like the dentist who thought the trophy by killing that lion would be cool . I think we may not bother with that one | |||
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"its a trophie shot to get your pic taken fucking on a famous persons grave Yeah but going by the majority on this thread , one would be treated like the dentist who thought the trophy by killing that lion would be cool . I think we may not bother with that one " Well why don't you start the ball rolling by having your photo taken fucking over a grave of someone you love..... | |||
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"Yes there are , and there will be plenty who frown upon wherever dogging takes place . Having thought about this one for a while , we would certainly be up for some dogging in a cemetery . Not to be disrespectful , but because we are into black metal music , cradle of filth etc..... And we enjoy dogging , so it would certainly work for us Of course it's disrespectful, does liking a certain type of music affect ones morals then..? would you feel the same way if you had a close relative, a child or parent buried in there? " But its ok for people to go dogging in woods and car parks,and leave behind used condoms, underwear etc and sometimes stained mattress..You get kids and families playing/Walking etc in these places has well.. I think people just need more respect in general,when it comes to dogging no matter where it is | |||
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"what's gonna be asked next, it necrophilia is okay? Only if it's consensual " Chortle........ | |||
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"its a trophie shot to get your pic taken fucking on a famous persons grave Yeah but going by the majority on this thread , one would be treated like the dentist who thought the trophy by killing that lion would be cool . I think we may not bother with that one Well why don't you start the ball rolling by having your photo taken fucking over a grave of someone you love....." ok where you want to go | |||
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"its a trophie shot to get your pic taken fucking on a famous persons grave Yeah but going by the majority on this thread , one would be treated like the dentist who thought the trophy by killing that lion would be cool . I think we may not bother with that one Well why don't you start the ball rolling by having your photo taken fucking over a grave of someone you love....." as in my earlier messages scroll back and read ffs | |||
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"It seems I do. Just saw a post from a couple advertising a dogging meet in a cemetery.I am utterly appalled. Have reported it to admin." This makes me smile - why have you reported it to Admin, what exactly do you expect them to do, send the heavies in? I expect cemeterys see a lot of activity, there must be many people who would nip in for a quickie with someone they've met in the pub / club that night, many photos get taken of people draped over headstones. I don't really care to be honest, it's not something that disgusts me, makes me angry, sickens me etc. I think defacing gravestones is wrong of course, as I do criminal damage on any building or object. I just don't feel the outrage that many on here have expressed. Maybe I'm a terrible, uncaring person, you can prey for my soul if you like | |||
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"I'm tempted to report to the police. A young couple of 19 & 21. A complete disgrace." Erm. A young couple is hardly dogging is it? | |||
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"Just cause people know about something doesn't make it OK!! Hundreds knew about the child abuse/ peadofiles who were public officials. Does that make it OK?? I didn't know this went on and that's why I'm so shocked! How it can be justified by the like of a certain subculture or musical genre or even film???? Things don't become OK because a lot of people do them. Give your head a wobble!" Stop trying to dramatise this by bringing up paedophiles or child abuse, that doesn't even remotely represent what is being discussed here. Many churchyards are public walk throughs, you honestly never ever could have imagined that someone could have sex in them and it's such a heinous crime on the same level as paedophilia, child abuse, murder etc!! | |||
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"Just cause people know about something doesn't make it OK!! Hundreds knew about the child abuse/ peadofiles who were public officials. Does that make it OK?? I didn't know this went on and that's why I'm so shocked! How it can be justified by the like of a certain subculture or musical genre or even film???? Things don't become OK because a lot of people do them. Give your head a wobble! Stop trying to dramatise this by bringing up paedophiles or child abuse, that doesn't even remotely represent what is being discussed here. Many churchyards are public walk throughs, you honestly never ever could have imagined that someone could have sex in them and it's such a heinous crime on the same level as paedophilia, child abuse, murder etc!! " Of course it's not the same fucking level but using the argument that it's OK cause lots of ppl do it is stupid. my opinion and if I want to give it I will! | |||
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"Acceptable or heinous? " Disgraceful. It makes me wonder what type of family background these people are from and why their parents failed to drill into them the need to respect the dead. I have seen children playing football in a church cemetery which again is completely unacceptable . | |||
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"Come on people get in the real world there's a lot of shagging going on in over grown church yards get a life and stop trying to be something your not" That does not make it acceptable though. People should have respect for the church grounds . | |||
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"Acceptable or heinous? Disgraceful. It makes me wonder what type of family background these people are from and why their parents failed to drill into them the need to respect the dead. I have seen children playing football in a church cemetery which again is completely unacceptable ." Respect the dead ? What exactly does that mean ? How do people respect the dead ? | |||
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"Moral outrage makes me uneasy. As usual on here there are lots of shouting about nothing. Disrespect blah blah! Disgusting blah blah ! Dreadful blah blah! Makes me sick! yada .......yada ........ yada with a few 'How would YOU like it's?' and you're not nices? thrown in for effect. Not one balanced argument made against shagging in a graveyard , not one good reason why not. " I did it once and it was quite enjoyable. Put her back in her box afterwards and went on my merry way. | |||
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"Moral outrage makes me uneasy. As usual on here there are lots of shouting about nothing. Disrespect blah blah! Disgusting blah blah ! Dreadful blah blah! Makes me sick! yada .......yada ........ yada with a few 'How would YOU like it's?' and you're not nices? thrown in for effect. Not one balanced argument made against shagging in a graveyard , not one good reason why not. I did it once and it was quite enjoyable. Put her back in her box afterwards and went on my merry way. " You shouldn't have taken a blow up dolly with you. | |||
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"Just cause people know about something doesn't make it OK!! Hundreds knew about the child abuse/ peadofiles who were public officials. Does that make it OK?? I didn't know this went on and that's why I'm so shocked! How it can be justified by the like of a certain subculture or musical genre or even film???? Things don't become OK because a lot of people do them. Give your head a wobble!" Very nievie to think it doesn't happy I think. It doesn't shock us that it goes on | |||
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"Moral outrage makes me uneasy. As usual on here there are lots of shouting about nothing. Disrespect blah blah! Disgusting blah blah ! Dreadful blah blah! Makes me sick! yada .......yada ........ yada with a few 'How would YOU like it's?' and you're not nices? thrown in for effect. Not one balanced argument made against shagging in a graveyard , not one good reason why not. " So business as usual, fab style then... | |||
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"I need to add that the dead don't know." Its more respect for the living who have loved ones there. | |||
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"Just cause people know about something doesn't make it OK!! Hundreds knew about the child abuse/ peadofiles who were public officials. Does that make it OK?? I didn't know this went on and that's why I'm so shocked! How it can be justified by the like of a certain subculture or musical genre or even film???? Things don't become OK because a lot of people do them. Give your head a wobble! Very nievie to think it doesn't happy I think. It doesn't shock us that it goes on " That's happen by the way . Bloody spell check | |||
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"I need to add that the dead don't know. Its more respect for the living who have loved ones there. " Now that's a comment I can agree with but let's say they don't know either and no damage is caused. What then ? Who is offended then ? | |||
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"I've never heard about anyone complaining when graveyards are used to make ZOMBIE t.v. series or horror movies. How disruptive can it be to have actors and directors shouting all over the place and lighting and trucks etc......." Wasn't hard to find one..... (Not sure if the link is allowed?) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553938/BBC-anger-grieving-relatives-turning-cemetery-film-location-ZOMBIE-television-series.html | |||
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"Just cause people know about something doesn't make it OK!! Hundreds knew about the child abuse/ peadofiles who were public officials. Does that make it OK?? I didn't know this went on and that's why I'm so shocked! How it can be justified by the like of a certain subculture or musical genre or even film???? Things don't become OK because a lot of people do them. Give your head a wobble! Very nievie to think it doesn't happy I think. It doesn't shock us that it goes on That's happen by the way . Bloody spell check " Spellchick is a basket I knowledge. | |||
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"I'm assuming the dogging is at night and out of sight ...... " I am.guessing it is , though as with most things word gets around locally and people will hear . The thought of distress caused saddens me. There was also a news story of gym clubs using grave yards to have work out sessions . That for me is wrong too. They are during day light hours when relatives were about. Its just my opinion but I think its wrong | |||
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"Acceptable or heinous? Disgraceful. It makes me wonder what type of family background these people are from and why their parents failed to drill into them the need to respect the dead. I have seen children playing football in a church cemetery which again is completely unacceptable . Respect the dead ? What exactly does that mean ? How do people respect the dead ? " You do whatever that particular poster arbitrarily thinks. As with all moral outrage it is founded on little more than knee jerk reaction to something which has not received much rational thought. If people don't like something that is fine because we are all entitled to our respective opinions. However there has not been one single argument given against the OP's mooted idea other than it is "sick", "disgraceful" etc. All subjective opjnions. | |||
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"I've never heard about anyone complaining when graveyards are used to make ZOMBIE t.v. series or horror movies. How disruptive can it be to have actors and directors shouting all over the place and lighting and trucks etc....... Wasn't hard to find one..... (Not sure if the link is allowed?) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553938/BBC-anger-grieving-relatives-turning-cemetery-film-location-ZOMBIE-television-series.html " Thank you. Daytime filming. In view of people tending graves. Understandable. Church didn't mind making money though. Not very respectful is it ? Now....... the dogging. Is that during the day in sight of all? Is anyone being paid ? I'd say a group of doggers doing what is a fun part of life ( to them, I think dogging is vile sex ) is far , FAR less harmful than daytime zombie antics. Zombies - the dead arising .... in a grave yard. Not nice. | |||
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"Acceptable or heinous? Disgraceful. It makes me wonder what type of family background these people are from and why their parents failed to drill into them the need to respect the dead. I have seen children playing football in a church cemetery which again is completely unacceptable . Respect the dead ? What exactly does that mean ? How do people respect the dead ? You do whatever that particular poster arbitrarily thinks. As with all moral outrage it is founded on little more than knee jerk reaction to something which has not received much rational thought. If people don't like something that is fine because we are all entitled to our respective opinions. However there has not been one single argument given against the OP's mooted idea other than it is "sick", "disgraceful" etc. All subjective opjnions." Quite. | |||
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"It'll be over my dead body before there'll be any dogging going on over my grave " Hmmmmmmmm are you putting that clause in your will ? | |||
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"Zombie tv was filmed in old Glossop Derbyshire we lived there at the time there was a big thing about it with the locals but a few bob put over the bar people could not give a fuck about the church yard " Seems everyone has their price. | |||
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"It'll be over my dead body before there'll be any dogging going on over my grave Hmmmmmmmm are you putting that clause in your will ? " There's a thought | |||
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"Why do people come back with the 'its my opinion and I'll give it if I like' or start swearing when a challenge takes place. Having sex in a public place is an offence, there are laws that protect the public from witnessing a sexual act. However if the people involved are doing this in a remote place where they believe they can't be seen, rather than outside McDonald's on the high street, then the likelihood is they'd probably just be told off by the police if caught. It's about other people witnessing the event. Now places like churchyards, parks, forests, etc are popular places for outside sex. It's something that we all know takes place. Technically it isn't right but are we really so terribly outraged by this. Are you as disgusted by people having sex in a nature spot where children play in the daytime as the cemetery thing? " The difference is. Children playing in the daytime in the field etc are not there when the outdoor sex happens. The graveyard however is seen by some as sacred. For some people it is the only place they can go to be alone with their thoughts and dedicate a bit of time to reflect about the person they have lost. I've taken on board opposing opinions. I still stand by my own that I find it distasteful. | |||
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"Moral outrage makes me uneasy. As usual on here there are lots of shouting about nothing. Disrespect blah blah! Disgusting blah blah ! Dreadful blah blah! Makes me sick! yada .......yada ........ yada with a few 'How would YOU like it's?' and you're not nices? thrown in for effect. Not one balanced argument made against shagging in a graveyard , not one good reason why not. So business as usual, fab style then..." Sigh ........Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sigh. | |||
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"Why do people come back with the 'its my opinion and I'll give it if I like' or start swearing when a challenge takes place. Having sex in a public place is an offence, there are laws that protect the public from witnessing a sexual act. However if the people involved are doing this in a remote place where they believe they can't be seen, rather than outside McDonald's on the high street, then the likelihood is they'd probably just be told off by the police if caught. It's about other people witnessing the event. Now places like churchyards, parks, forests, etc are popular places for outside sex. It's something that we all know takes place. Technically it isn't right but are we really so terribly outraged by this. Are you as disgusted by people having sex in a nature spot where children play in the daytime as the cemetery thing? The difference is. Children playing in the daytime in the field etc are not there when the outdoor sex happens. The graveyard however is seen by some as sacred. For some people it is the only place they can go to be alone with their thoughts and dedicate a bit of time to reflect about the person they have lost. I've taken on board opposing opinions. I still stand by my own that I find it distasteful." Graveyard/Church gates are locked. There's no one there reflecting. If no one sees and no one tells.... who is hurt ? | |||
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"As a widow I find it outrageous " And what if you weren't a widow ? | |||
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"Wonder if some of this people have been 16 walking hand in hand looking for some were to go nice and quiet when it,s dark" Lol that's where the basis of my post comes from. While not done it myself... I know that many young people have x | |||
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"Why do people come back with the 'its my opinion and I'll give it if I like' or start swearing when a challenge takes place. Having sex in a public place is an offence, there are laws that protect the public from witnessing a sexual act. However if the people involved are doing this in a remote place where they believe they can't be seen, rather than outside McDonald's on the high street, then the likelihood is they'd probably just be told off by the police if caught. It's about other people witnessing the event. Now places like churchyards, parks, forests, etc are popular places for outside sex. It's something that we all know takes place. Technically it isn't right but are we really so terribly outraged by this. Are you as disgusted by people having sex in a nature spot where children play in the daytime as the cemetery thing? The difference is. Children playing in the daytime in the field etc are not there when the outdoor sex happens. The graveyard however is seen by some as sacred. For some people it is the only place they can go to be alone with their thoughts and dedicate a bit of time to reflect about the person they have lost. I've taken on board opposing opinions. I still stand by my own that I find it distasteful. Graveyard/Church gates are locked. There's no one there reflecting. If no one sees and no one tells.... who is hurt ?" So out of sight out of mind makes it acceptable then. | |||
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"As a widow I find it outrageous " As someone who is currently lying in bed I find it appalling too. My fiancée is lying next to me and the thought of people having sex near someone who is also horizontal makes me feel physically sick. In fact I may go and phone the police too. | |||
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"Why do people come back with the 'its my opinion and I'll give it if I like' or start swearing when a challenge takes place. Having sex in a public place is an offence, there are laws that protect the public from witnessing a sexual act. However if the people involved are doing this in a remote place where they believe they can't be seen, rather than outside McDonald's on the high street, then the likelihood is they'd probably just be told off by the police if caught. It's about other people witnessing the event. Now places like churchyards, parks, forests, etc are popular places for outside sex. It's something that we all know takes place. Technically it isn't right but are we really so terribly outraged by this. Are you as disgusted by people having sex in a nature spot where children play in the daytime as the cemetery thing? The difference is. Children playing in the daytime in the field etc are not there when the outdoor sex happens. The graveyard however is seen by some as sacred. For some people it is the only place they can go to be alone with their thoughts and dedicate a bit of time to reflect about the person they have lost. I've taken on board opposing opinions. I still stand by my own that I find it distasteful. Graveyard/Church gates are locked. There's no one there reflecting. If no one sees and no one tells.... who is hurt ? So out of sight out of mind makes it acceptable then. " Don't try putting words in my mouth. Answer my question. | |||
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"Why do people come back with the 'its my opinion and I'll give it if I like' or start swearing when a challenge takes place. Having sex in a public place is an offence, there are laws that protect the public from witnessing a sexual act. However if the people involved are doing this in a remote place where they believe they can't be seen, rather than outside McDonald's on the high street, then the likelihood is they'd probably just be told off by the police if caught. It's about other people witnessing the event. Now places like churchyards, parks, forests, etc are popular places for outside sex. It's something that we all know takes place. Technically it isn't right but are we really so terribly outraged by this. Are you as disgusted by people having sex in a nature spot where children play in the daytime as the cemetery thing? " I think this is very well put . And I guess it's all down to where you moral compass lays. We have been to Studlands many many time where there's a lots of sex going on all the time . Yet people feel it's ok to do this in the middle of a summer's day with children running about all over the place. In my eyes that's wrong on so many levels | |||
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"As a widow I find it outrageous As someone who is currently lying in bed I find it appalling too. My fiancée is lying next to me and the thought of people having sex near someone who is also horizontal makes me feel physically sick. In fact I may go and phone the police too." Horizontal ? Don't stand for it! | |||
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"Being serious for a change.... To take a position on this I have to put myself in my Mum's shoes. She would be very upset if she found out, either by anecdote, discovery of discarded condoms or cum splattered headstone that my Grandad's or Nana's memorial in the cemetery had been desecrated by doggers. For this reason I cannot condone it and would ask those who don't consider it disrespectful to put themselves in the shoes of those that would." I think they probably have thought about it like that and come to the conclusion than no one knows and nothing is damaged. I am not sure graves become "cum splattered". That is a very evocative term which has no real meaning and probably does not manifest itself in reality. However it does sound pretty gross and thus makes it useful for an emotional point. Birds however do deposit on graves. That is surely more disrespectful. Ejecting the contents of their anus onto the final resting place of a dead animal of a different species. I think it is totally disgraceful. Or are we making up arbitrary standards of moral acceptability which practically have no basis but sounds great when our knees are flapping around uncontrollably? | |||
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"Being serious for a change.... To take a position on this I have to put myself in my Mum's shoes. She would be very upset if she found out, either by anecdote, discovery of discarded condoms or cum splattered headstone that my Grandad's or Nana's memorial in the cemetery had been desecrated by doggers. For this reason I cannot condone it and would ask those who don't consider it disrespectful to put themselves in the shoes of those that would." Ahhhhhhhhhhh I couldn't condone that. We are not talking about splattering graves with cum. We are not talking of damaged headstones. We are talking about having sex. Why do those against bring in irrelevant detail that hasn't happened? | |||
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"Being serious for a change.... To take a position on this I have to put myself in my Mum's shoes. She would be very upset if she found out, either by anecdote, discovery of discarded condoms or cum splattered headstone that my Grandad's or Nana's memorial in the cemetery had been desecrated by doggers. For this reason I cannot condone it and would ask those who don't consider it disrespectful to put themselves in the shoes of those that would. I think they probably have thought about it like that and come to the conclusion than no one knows and nothing is damaged. I am not sure graves become "cum splattered". That is a very evocative term which has no real meaning and probably does not manifest itself in reality. However it does sound pretty gross and thus makes it useful for an emotional point. Birds however do deposit on graves. That is surely more disrespectful. Ejecting the contents of their anus onto the final resting place of a dead animal of a different species. I think it is totally disgraceful. Or are we making up arbitrary standards of moral acceptability which practically have no basis but sounds great when our knees are flapping around uncontrollably? " Yes. | |||
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"Being serious for a change.... To take a position on this I have to put myself in my Mum's shoes. She would be very upset if she found out, either by anecdote, discovery of discarded condoms or cum splattered headstone that my Grandad's or Nana's memorial in the cemetery had been desecrated by doggers. For this reason I cannot condone it and would ask those who don't consider it disrespectful to put themselves in the shoes of those that would. I think they probably have thought about it like that and come to the conclusion than no one knows and nothing is damaged. I am not sure graves become "cum splattered". That is a very evocative term which has no real meaning and probably does not manifest itself in reality. However it does sound pretty gross and thus makes it useful for an emotional point. Birds however do deposit on graves. That is surely more disrespectful. Ejecting the contents of their anus onto the final resting place of a dead animal of a different species. I think it is totally disgraceful. Or are we making up arbitrary standards of moral acceptability which practically have no basis but sounds great when our knees are flapping around? uncontrollably? " thats just what i was going to say | |||
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"Being serious for a change.... To take a position on this I have to put myself in my Mum's shoes. She would be very upset if she found out, either by anecdote, discovery of discarded condoms or cum splattered headstone that my Grandad's or Nana's memorial in the cemetery had been desecrated by doggers. For this reason I cannot condone it and would ask those who don't consider it disrespectful to put themselves in the shoes of those that would. Ahhhhhhhhhhh I couldn't condone that. We are not talking about splattering graves with cum. We are not talking of damaged headstones. We are talking about having sex. Why do those against bring in irrelevant detail that hasn't happened? " To make easy enotional arguments which sound totally ok until you consider how likely or reality based they are. Then they start to fall down. Unless you are someone who only reacts to situations with emotion and not with thought. | |||
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"Being serious for a change.... To take a position on this I have to put myself in my Mum's shoes. She would be very upset if she found out, either by anecdote, discovery of discarded condoms or cum splattered headstone that my Grandad's or Nana's memorial in the cemetery had been desecrated by doggers. For this reason I cannot condone it and would ask those who don't consider it disrespectful to put themselves in the shoes of those that would. Ahhhhhhhhhhh I couldn't condone that. We are not talking about splattering graves with cum. We are not talking of damaged headstones. We are talking about having sex. Why do those against bring in irrelevant detail that hasn't happened? To make easy enotional arguments which sound totally ok until you consider how likely or reality based they are. Then they start to fall down. Unless you are someone who only reacts to situations with emotion and not with thought." I know. It was rhetorical. | |||
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"Still would find it outrageous. Each to their own but something's should remain off limits and for me this has always been off limits " And for me too but what about those for who it isn't off limits ? What about people who think finding sex via the internet is disgusting, outrageous and off limits? Should you stop because they find it offensive ? | |||
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"Still would find it outrageous. Each to their own but something's should remain off limits and for me this has always been off limits " We wouldn't do it but I don't find it a awful thing. Unless they were leaving a mess but I find that a bad thing anywhere someone has out door sex. I think If doing it to be seen... Or to make a statement... Then perhaps. But as I said there are plenty of disused graveyards or unvisted areas of cemeterys | |||
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"Being serious for a change.... To take a position on this I have to put myself in my Mum's shoes. She would be very upset if she found out, either by anecdote, discovery of discarded condoms or cum splattered headstone that my Grandad's or Nana's memorial in the cemetery had been desecrated by doggers. For this reason I cannot condone it and would ask those who don't consider it disrespectful to put themselves in the shoes of those that would. Ahhhhhhhhhhh I couldn't condone that. We are not talking about splattering graves with cum. We are not talking of damaged headstones. We are talking about having sex. Why do those against bring in irrelevant detail that hasn't happened? " Do we know what has happened? In all the instances of sex in graveyards whether it is dogging or not? I do know discarded condoms have been found on people's graves. It does not take much imagination to consider that desecration might also happen, intentionally or not. | |||
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"Being serious for a change.... To take a position on this I have to put myself in my Mum's shoes. She would be very upset if she found out, either by anecdote, discovery of discarded condoms or cum splattered headstone that my Grandad's or Nana's memorial in the cemetery had been desecrated by doggers. For this reason I cannot condone it and would ask those who don't consider it disrespectful to put themselves in the shoes of those that would. Ahhhhhhhhhhh I couldn't condone that. We are not talking about splattering graves with cum. We are not talking of damaged headstones. We are talking about having sex. Why do those against bring in irrelevant detail that hasn't happened? Do we know what has happened? In all the instances of sex in graveyards whether it is dogging or not? I do know discarded condoms have been found on people's graves. It does not take much imagination to consider that desecration might also happen, intentionally or not. " The key word here is "imagination" You are structuring an objection on something which has not evidence bit you can imagine it might happen so therefore all related activities are immoral. Used contraceptives left places is disrespectful of any location and the issue is not with the having sex. It is with the failing to clear up after yourself. Picnics often leave litter behind. Does that mean we should ban Picnics or we should implore picnickers to tidy up properly? | |||
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"Why do people come back with the 'its my opinion and I'll give it if I like' or start swearing when a challenge takes place. Having sex in a public place is an offence, there are laws that protect the public from witnessing a sexual act. However if the people involved are doing this in a remote place where they believe they can't be seen, rather than outside McDonald's on the high street, then the likelihood is they'd probably just be told off by the police if caught. It's about other people witnessing the event. Now places like churchyards, parks, forests, etc are popular places for outside sex. It's something that we all know takes place. Technically it isn't right but are we really so terribly outraged by this. Are you as disgusted by people having sex in a nature spot where children play in the daytime as the cemetery thing? The difference is. Children playing in the daytime in the field etc are not there when the outdoor sex happens. The graveyard however is seen by some as sacred. For some people it is the only place they can go to be alone with their thoughts and dedicate a bit of time to reflect about the person they have lost. I've taken on board opposing opinions. I still stand by my own that I find it distasteful. Graveyard/Church gates are locked. There's no one there reflecting. If no one sees and no one tells.... who is hurt ? So out of sight out of mind makes it acceptable then. Don't try putting words in my mouth. Answer my question. " @granny I'll answer your question ~ the answer is no one because no one will actually know if no one was there to see It is our imagination of what may happen which plays on our already heightened emotions. This could be applied to many a contentious topic on here though, imagination & emotion over ruling the fact. I don't believe it's right to stage a dogging meet or have photos taken fucking on a grave, if others do then so be it ~ hopefully it is something I will not encounter along the way. | |||
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"Being serious for a change.... To take a position on this I have to put myself in my Mum's shoes. She would be very upset if she found out, either by anecdote, discovery of discarded condoms or cum splattered headstone that my Grandad's or Nana's memorial in the cemetery had been desecrated by doggers. For this reason I cannot condone it and would ask those who don't consider it disrespectful to put themselves in the shoes of those that would. Ahhhhhhhhhhh I couldn't condone that. We are not talking about splattering graves with cum. We are not talking of damaged headstones. We are talking about having sex. Why do those against bring in irrelevant detail that hasn't happened? Do we know what has happened? In all the instances of sex in graveyards whether it is dogging or not? I do know discarded condoms have been found on people's graves. It does not take much imagination to consider that desecration might also happen, intentionally or not. The key word here is "imagination" You are structuring an objection on something which has not evidence bit you can imagine it might happen so therefore all related activities are immoral. Used contraceptives left places is disrespectful of any location and the issue is not with the having sex. It is with the failing to clear up after yourself. Picnics often leave litter behind. Does that mean we should ban Picnics or we should implore picnickers to tidy up properly?" Sorry. Autocarrot strikes again. The third line should read: "which has no evidence, but you can imagine" | |||
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"disgusting was bad enough yesterday when I was looking for a nice memorial for my dads grave and came across a zombie rising from the ground how sick is that " Basyard Zombies. Did you hit it with a pool Cue? | |||
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"Just cause people know about something doesn't make it OK!! Hundreds knew about the child abuse/ peadofiles who were public officials. Does that make it OK?? I didn't know this went on and that's why I'm so shocked! How it can be justified by the like of a certain subculture or musical genre or even film???? Things don't become OK because a lot of people do them. Give your head a wobble! Stop trying to dramatise this by bringing up paedophiles or child abuse, that doesn't even remotely represent what is being discussed here. Many churchyards are public walk throughs, you honestly never ever could have imagined that someone could have sex in them and it's such a heinous crime on the same level as paedophilia, child abuse, murder etc!! " Exactly this , it's time to get a grip on reality here ! There are a number of things we do as swingers which may evoke reactions amongst others . Here's an example - Cheating behind your spouses back - is that deemed any worse than shagging in a cemetery ? I personally think it is , but we have played with attached cheaters too , so at least we aren't playing the moral high ground here like some are on this thread . It would be easy to get as angry as some of those anti dogging in a cemetery here , but we would rather be pro active in arranging our next meet . Perhaps in the local cemetery for a change | |||
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"Why do people come back with the 'its my opinion and I'll give it if I like' or start swearing when a challenge takes place. Having sex in a public place is an offence, there are laws that protect the public from witnessing a sexual act. However if the people involved are doing this in a remote place where they believe they can't be seen, rather than outside McDonald's on the high street, then the likelihood is they'd probably just be told off by the police if caught. It's about other people witnessing the event. Now places like churchyards, parks, forests, etc are popular places for outside sex. It's something that we all know takes place. Technically it isn't right but are we really so terribly outraged by this. Are you as disgusted by people having sex in a nature spot where children play in the daytime as the cemetery thing? The difference is. Children playing in the daytime in the field etc are not there when the outdoor sex happens. The graveyard however is seen by some as sacred. For some people it is the only place they can go to be alone with their thoughts and dedicate a bit of time to reflect about the person they have lost. I've taken on board opposing opinions. I still stand by my own that I find it distasteful. Graveyard/Church gates are locked. There's no one there reflecting. If no one sees and no one tells.... who is hurt ? So out of sight out of mind makes it acceptable then. Don't try putting words in my mouth. Answer my question. @granny I'll answer your question ~ the answer is no one because no one will actually know if no one was there to see It is our imagination of what may happen which plays on our already heightened emotions. This could be applied to many a contentious topic on here though, imagination & emotion over ruling the fact. I don't believe it's right to stage a dogging meet or have photos taken fucking on a grave, if others do then so be it ~ hopefully it is something I will not encounter along the way. " | |||
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" Does not mean that is a good way to set the moral bar. But disrespecting the sanctity of someone's grave is....? C'mon really...... Oh Soxy keep up ~ apparently it's only disrespectful in yours & mines over emotional, high moral ground, knee jerk reaction imagination.....x" Of course you're so right,,,,,, I must immediately stop using words like violation and desiccation and maybe over time my moral compass will adjust and I'll be able to tolerate the sort of behaviour Myra Hindley and Ian Brady fantasised about,,, allegedly... | |||
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" Does not mean that is a good way to set the moral bar. But disrespecting the sanctity of someone's grave is....? C'mon really...... Oh Soxy keep up ~ apparently it's only disrespectful in yours & mines over emotional, high moral ground, knee jerk reaction imagination.....x Of course you're so right,,,,,, I must immediately stop using words like violation and desiccation and maybe over time my moral compass will adjust and I'll be able to tolerate the sort of behaviour Myra Hindley and Ian Brady fantasised about,,, allegedly... " Oh my ..... | |||
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"Not for me and its disrespectful. There are lobed ones in there. " I thought that read "lob ons " in there...which seemed apt to what the subject is. | |||
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"love the way the OP has asked the question then turned it round so it doesn't look he was asking at all lol outrageous lol" I actually think he's genuine.. He named and shamed on his profile and I looked the couple up and yup there is a pic of her on a bench next to a grave. Not for me personally, but I can't see the outrage when, as previously said, there will have been plenty of people stop off for a quick shag in the past. | |||
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"love the way the OP has asked the question then turned it round so it doesn't look he was asking at all lol outrageous lol" To be fair....I think people assumed he was asking because he was into it when it sounds like he wasn't. | |||
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" Does not mean that is a good way to set the moral bar. But disrespecting the sanctity of someone's grave is....? C'mon really...... Oh Soxy keep up ~ apparently it's only disrespectful in yours & mines over emotional, high moral ground, knee jerk reaction imagination.....x Of course you're so right,,,,,, I must immediately stop using words like violation and desiccation and maybe over time my moral compass will adjust and I'll be able to tolerate the sort of behaviour Myra Hindley and Ian Brady fantasised about,,, allegedly... " I used the word moral compass . Yay was thinking on one had read that bit . And I see on one mentioned it was ok to hump like rabbits on a beach in front of kids either | |||
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"love the way the OP has asked the question then turned it round so it doesn't look he was asking at all lol outrageous lol" OP blocked us . Maybe it was my moral compass that offended him | |||
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"love the way the OP has asked the question then turned it round so it doesn't look he was asking at all lol outrageous lol I actually think he's genuine.. He named and shamed on his profile and I looked the couple up and yup there is a pic of her on a bench next to a grave. Not for me personally, but I can't see the outrage when, as previously said, there will have been plenty of people stop off for a quick shag in the past." Is it right that he name and shame these people. I'm not so sure it is . Let's not forget this is a swinging site where people find others to have sexual intercourse with what ever there kink is | |||
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"I hope someone fucks on my grave. " I want two nubile,naked men to make love on mine. Only if I can see them from heaven though. | |||
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" I used the word moral compass . Yay was thinking on one had read that bit . And I see on one mentioned it was ok to hump like rabbits on a beach in front of kids either " The risk of seeing Rabbits humping is main reasons I avoid pet shops,,,,,,,, | |||
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"Almost apropos... Who, What, Why: Is it wrong to exercise in a graveyard? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33911938" I don't know about the UK, but in the US teenagers go to the graveyard to get high because cops aren't around. Lots of stuff happens in graveyards that people don't even think about. -Courtney | |||
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