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By *hyllyphylly OP   Man
over a year ago

Bradford

After nearly 7 years I finally signed off, just roll on Monday now...

Then roll on 18th Sept as that's 1st pay day as I have about £100 to last 40 days, that's if I don't pay a couple of bills.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"After nearly 7 years I finally signed off, just roll on Monday now...

Then roll on 18th Sept as that's 1st pay day as I have about £100 to last 40 days, that's if I don't pay a couple of bills. "

Good news.

Hope it leads to much happiness x

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By *not69Man
over a year ago

Lancashire

congratulations, I hope our all goes well for you

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york


"congratulations, I hope our all goes well for you"
wishing you lots of luck xx

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Well done

Do we need to send food parcels to keep you going?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who has been claiming for 4 weeks, I go back to work in 2 weeks. Signed off for 6 weeks hospital etc. It's offensive to read sponging off the state.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well done

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Well done.

I do think when you sign off because you have employment the social should pay you up until your first pay cheque.

I've come across people that have really struggled that first month as they are getting money from nowhere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As someone who has been claiming for 4 weeks, I go back to work in 2 weeks. Signed off for 6 weeks hospital etc. It's offensive to read sponging off the state. "

I agree, especially when you`ve paid thousands in tax and NI over the decades, the only spongers are politicians and tax evaders.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago


"Well done.

I do think when you sign off because you have employment the social should pay you up until your first pay cheque.

I've come across people that have really struggled that first month as they are getting money from nowhere

"

So have I,it doesn't seem right

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I've come across people that have really struggled that first month as they are getting money from nowhere

"

Yes.

There's supposed to be a 'tapering off' of benefits to ease the transition, or has that gone the way of the White Whale?

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By *hyllyphylly OP   Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"I've come across people that have really struggled that first month as they are getting money from nowhere

Yes.

There's supposed to be a 'tapering off' of benefits to ease the transition, or has that gone the way of the White Whale?"

They used to be Job Grants, but they ended in April 2013

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I've come across people that have really struggled that first month as they are getting money from nowhere

Yes.

There's supposed to be a 'tapering off' of benefits to ease the transition, or has that gone the way of the White Whale?

They used to be Job Grants, but they ended in April 2013"

which is ridiculous, a single person whose been unemployed long term is hardly likely to have much savings.

I think there should be a work package that includes a small work clothes allowance(vouchers) travel fare for first month and a last months benefit until pay day, it would be a helping hand for people who hopefully would have broke the benefit cycle

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I have a friend who was on unemployment benefit something like 7 years ago. He was offered a job but he couldn't start it for a few months because it required security clearance and a lot of paperwork.

The job centre said because he'd accepted a job he was no longer unemployed and told him he had to sign off immediately, even though he wouldn't have an income for months.

He had no end of hassle over it. I can't remember how it panned out but I think he might have had to transfer to income support or something. He was left without any money for several weeks whilst it got sorted out.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

You'll find it hard at first but once back in a routine you'll be fine. I'm sure you'll survive that first month as hard as it will be.

Congratulations!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Well done !!

It is a shame they don't help people back to work by helping with expenses until payday ! If you are hungry in the next month, go on a Fab tour and we will all feed you.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

congrats nothing better than getting that pay chq, it'll be nerve racking, but easy enough once you realise how little everybody does

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"As someone who has been claiming for 4 weeks, I go back to work in 2 weeks. Signed off for 6 weeks hospital etc. It's offensive to read sponging off the state. "

I think it may be tongue in cheek as people who are on the dole get called scroungers on here a lot.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago


"I've come across people that have really struggled that first month as they are getting money from nowhere

Yes.

There's supposed to be a 'tapering off' of benefits to ease the transition, or has that gone the way of the White Whale?

They used to be Job Grants, but they ended in April 2013which is ridiculous, a single person whose been unemployed long term is hardly likely to have much savings.

I think there should be a work package that includes a small work clothes allowance(vouchers) travel fare for first month and a last months benefit until pay day, it would be a helping hand for people who hopefully would have broke the benefit cycle"

Totally agree with you

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I have a friend who was on unemployment benefit something like 7 years ago. He was offered a job but he couldn't start it for a few months because it required security clearance and a lot of paperwork.

The job centre said because he'd accepted a job he was no longer unemployed and told him he had to sign off immediately, even though he wouldn't have an income for months.

He had no end of hassle over it. I can't remember how it panned out but I think he might have had to transfer to income support or something. He was left without any money for several weeks whilst it got sorted out."

last year callum changed jobs, he was not "unemployed" but couldn't start the new job until his clearance records went through which took 8 weeks, the job centre did pay him something in that time but I can't remember what it was, but they wanted him to go for other inter_iews in that time knowing he had a job waiting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

congrats finally

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I have a friend who was on unemployment benefit something like 7 years ago. He was offered a job but he couldn't start it for a few months because it required security clearance and a lot of paperwork.

The job centre said because he'd accepted a job he was no longer unemployed and told him he had to sign off immediately, even though he wouldn't have an income for months.

He had no end of hassle over it. I can't remember how it panned out but I think he might have had to transfer to income support or something. He was left without any money for several weeks whilst it got sorted out.

last year callum changed jobs, he was not "unemployed" but couldn't start the new job until his clearance records went through which took 8 weeks, the job centre did pay him something in that time but I can't remember what it was, but they wanted him to go for other inter_iews in that time knowing he had a job waiting "

Ridiculous eh?

The told my friend that to be eligible for unemployment benefit he had to be available for work. As he'd agreed to a job, he wasn't available for work so had to sign off.

What on earth is the point of wasting an employer's time going to an inter_iew for a job you can't take?!

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By *hyllyphylly OP   Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"As someone who has been claiming for 4 weeks, I go back to work in 2 weeks. Signed off for 6 weeks hospital etc. It's offensive to read sponging off the state.

I think it may be tongue in cheek as people who are on the dole get called scroungers on here a lot.

"

Pretty much this, it was written in jest

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

OP, enjoy your time between now and Monday as you're technically on holiday.

On Monday drinks lots of water and take a menthol stick or paracetamol for the 4:29pm first day headache.

If you need an advance speak to your HR department, they will understand. They want you to turn up every day and not fail because circumstances mean you can't pay the bus fare.

It is a shame that the into work support package has gone as it was hard fought for to introduce it in the first place. The recognition that if people start their work life getting into debt it creates other problems and often leads to a return to benefits seems to have been lost.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

_hyllyphylly,

Dont think of it as sponging. I take it you've worked in the past, paid tax and NI?

All you're doing in getting some of your own money back while unemployed.

Congrats on the new job.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I have a friend who was on unemployment benefit something like 7 years ago. He was offered a job but he couldn't start it for a few months because it required security clearance and a lot of paperwork.

The job centre said because he'd accepted a job he was no longer unemployed and told him he had to sign off immediately, even though he wouldn't have an income for months.

He had no end of hassle over it. I can't remember how it panned out but I think he might have had to transfer to income support or something. He was left without any money for several weeks whilst it got sorted out.

last year callum changed jobs, he was not "unemployed" but couldn't start the new job until his clearance records went through which took 8 weeks, the job centre did pay him something in that time but I can't remember what it was, but they wanted him to go for other inter_iews in that time knowing he had a job waiting

Ridiculous eh?

The told my friend that to be eligible for unemployment benefit he had to be available for work. As he'd agreed to a job, he wasn't available for work so had to sign off.

What on earth is the point of wasting an employer's time going to an inter_iew for a job you can't take?!"

I did some inter_iews on this and the official answer was that they may get a temporary job for say two weeks. If they do the claimant should accept that.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"OP, enjoy your time between now and Monday as you're technically on holiday.

On Monday drinks lots of water and take a menthol stick or paracetamol for the 4:29pm first day headache.

If you need an advance speak to your HR department, they will understand. They want you to turn up every day and not fail because circumstances mean you can't pay the bus fare.

It is a shame that the into work support package has gone as it was hard fought for to introduce it in the first place. The recognition that if people start their work life getting into debt it creates other problems and often leads to a return to benefits seems to have been lost.

"

That was back when the ethos really was helping people back to work.

These days, "helping people back to work" means letting them starve and freeze until they manage to find any sort of job, however crappy, without any help, or they simply capitulate and die. Either way saves on spending on benefits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Congratulations! Bummer about having so little to last 40 days though!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well done.

I do think when you sign off because you have employment the social should pay you up until your first pay cheque.

I've come across people that have really struggled that first month as they are getting money from nowhere

"

They didnt pay me.As soon as i told them i was back in work that was it for a month till payday.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Welcome to the world of work, living hand to mouth despite working twelve plus hours a day, never having money for a holiday, living on white label tesco goods and having two masters degrees .... at least what do makes a difference. Happy to pay my taxes to hell those less able to manage than I am, but honestly think the only people sponging off the state are those not paying their fair share or doing their but, ie the wealthy ....

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I have a friend who was on unemployment benefit something like 7 years ago. He was offered a job but he couldn't start it for a few months because it required security clearance and a lot of paperwork.

The job centre said because he'd accepted a job he was no longer unemployed and told him he had to sign off immediately, even though he wouldn't have an income for months.

He had no end of hassle over it. I can't remember how it panned out but I think he might have had to transfer to income support or something. He was left without any money for several weeks whilst it got sorted out.

last year callum changed jobs, he was not "unemployed" but couldn't start the new job until his clearance records went through which took 8 weeks, the job centre did pay him something in that time but I can't remember what it was, but they wanted him to go for other inter_iews in that time knowing he had a job waiting

Ridiculous eh?

The told my friend that to be eligible for unemployment benefit he had to be available for work. As he'd agreed to a job, he wasn't available for work so had to sign off.

What on earth is the point of wasting an employer's time going to an inter_iew for a job you can't take?!

I did some inter_iews on this and the official answer was that they may get a temporary job for say two weeks. If they do the claimant should accept that.

"

Yeah because that's really likely... Companies looking for someone for 2 weeks don't tend to bother with inter_iews and go through agencies.

It may well breach any contract already signed to take another role, even temporary, before starting too.

It's such good sense for someone to risk a permanent job to take a really short-term temporary contract.

I wonder if the people who make these rules actually have brains.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone said, speak to HR. A lot of companies will give you an advance on your wages after 2 weeks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seven years and you never appeared in a Channel 5 documentary, nice one!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Shall we set up a food fund

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good news and hope everything works out well

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Excellent news fella

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Excellent news OP, good for you.

You must feel epic.....

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

Congratulations!! Really mean that, I'm chuffed for you

When I signed off I was lucky to get a clothing grant and a bus pass for the first month. Apparently they can still do them at their discretion... But I don't know if that was partly because I'd been signing on for less than 12 months (by the skin of my teeth).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

best of luck in your job!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

All the best in your new role

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've come across people that have really struggled that first month as they are getting money from nowhere

Yes.

There's supposed to be a 'tapering off' of benefits to ease the transition, or has that gone the way of the White Whale?

They used to be Job Grants, but they ended in April 2013which is ridiculous, a single person whose been unemployed long term is hardly likely to have much savings.

I think there should be a work package that includes a small work clothes allowance(vouchers) travel fare for first month and a last months benefit until pay day, it would be a helping hand for people who hopefully would have broke the benefit cycle"

"Unemployed long term" I think is the key thing there.

Most people are annoyed with long term unemployed without good reason.

Someone's got a bad few months/year after losing their job fair enough they need the help but over 5 years?

Sorry but there's no excuse to be just unemployed for that long.

If you're incablable of work fair enough but just sitting on jsa is different.

Your work package idea would be open to abuse though from multiple claims.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well done... Its nice to hear good news...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a friend who was on unemployment benefit something like 7 years ago. He was offered a job but he couldn't start it for a few months because it required security clearance and a lot of paperwork.

The job centre said because he'd accepted a job he was no longer unemployed and told him he had to sign off immediately, even though he wouldn't have an income for months.

He had no end of hassle over it. I can't remember how it panned out but I think he might have had to transfer to income support or something. He was left without any money for several weeks whilst it got sorted out.

last year callum changed jobs, he was not "unemployed" but couldn't start the new job until his clearance records went through which took 8 weeks, the job centre did pay him something in that time but I can't remember what it was, but they wanted him to go for other inter_iews in that time knowing he had a job waiting

Ridiculous eh?

The told my friend that to be eligible for unemployment benefit he had to be available for work. As he'd agreed to a job, he wasn't available for work so had to sign off.

What on earth is the point of wasting an employer's time going to an inter_iew for a job you can't take?!

I did some inter_iews on this and the official answer was that they may get a temporary job for say two weeks. If they do the claimant should accept that.

"

Or its because the system is set up to deal with the majority of cases.

So it puts one or two people in a bizarre situation but works most effectively for say 90% of the cases they deal with it makes sense

Rather than a massively less efficency case by case basis that would cost much more but avoid the odd outlier situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good for you OP..

I hope it's a means to happiness and prosperity for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why don't you set up like a help fund on a free site? I'd be gladly willing to chip in a fiver? I'm sure others would to! It would be a nice gesture from us all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Congratulations OP, I hope your transition is smooth, and you cope without the pennies for the first month.

There has been loads of good advice above so I won't repeat it! xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Congrats Phylly, excellent news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don't you set up like a help fund on a free site? I'd be gladly willing to chip in a fiver? I'm sure others would to! It would be a nice gesture from us all "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a friend who was on unemployment benefit something like 7 years ago. He was offered a job but he couldn't start it for a few months because it required security clearance and a lot of paperwork.

The job centre said because he'd accepted a job he was no longer unemployed and told him he had to sign off immediately, even though he wouldn't have an income for months.

He had no end of hassle over it. I can't remember how it panned out but I think he might have had to transfer to income support or something. He was left without any money for several weeks whilst it got sorted out.last year callum changed jobs, he was not "unemployed" but couldn't start the new job until his clearance records went through which took 8 weeks, the job centre did pay him something in that time but I can't remember what it was, but they wanted him to go for other inter_iews in that time knowing he had a job waiting "

Just before I landed this job, I had to sign on at the beginning of december, midway through and then in the new year. I got my letter offering me my job a week into December, to start work on Jan 2nd. When I next went to sign on, mid December, I was asked (by a guy who couldn't keep his face straight) if I was going to be looking for work between then and the start of my new job. He was laughing almost as much as me. I think they are actually serious now though.

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By *ittle Pocket PerveWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

Congratulations on the new job

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