FabSwingers.com forum: Men as providers

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I am wondering if the majority of women still select for male partners that can act as a provider?

Its a completely outdated and sexist viewpoint now surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where they ever providers

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I'm single with no desire to be in a relationship. It's not exactly an unusual situation for women now. Many women even decide to have kids and bring them up alone, through choice.

How does that fit with your query?

I think it's been a very long time since most women selected men primarily for their ability to be a provider.

Even so, if they did, expecting that they would bear and raise the children, what would be wrong with wanting a man able to support the family? Some people still want a traditional family with traditional family roles. Why would that be sexist?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I think it's only natural that a woman should want a partner who can provide the best he can for her, especially if children are brought into the equation. With state handouts and benefits these days though, it isn't always necessary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Where they ever providers "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm single with no desire to be in a relationship. It's not exactly an unusual situation for women now. Many women even decide to have kids and bring them up alone, through choice.

How does that fit with your query"

Well it doesn't fit in with the query at all if you have no desire to be in a relationship. It takes you out of the selection making process surely?

My mum brought her kids up on her own so I understand women don't need a man to be a provider

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Bit naff, really.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I am wondering if the majority of women still select for male partners that can act as a provider?

Its a completely outdated and sexist viewpoint now surely?"

A provider of what ?

It is a fallacy to think that there ever was a period in history where men provided EVERYTHING and women just picked their teeth and farted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's only natural that a woman should want a partner who can provide the best he can for her, especially if children are brought into the equation. With state handouts and benefits these days though, it isn't always necessary. "

State handouts are not that great, get real, my mum brought 4 kids up alone and worked full time

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I'm single with no desire to be in a relationship. It's not exactly an unusual situation for women now. Many women even decide to have kids and bring them up alone, through choice.

How does that fit with your query

Well it doesn't fit in with the query at all if you have no desire to be in a relationship. It takes you out of the selection making process surely?

My mum brought her kids up on her own so I understand women don't need a man to be a provider

I've selected. I selected for not needing a man who can provide, or a man at all.

If someone I like comes along then great, but I'm generally quite happy being single.

I've had two long-term relationships but being single seems to suit me better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The difference in unemployment rates between men and women would suggest so :p

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

State handouts are not that great, get real, my mum brought 4 kids up alone and worked full time "

That was 40 years ago things changed since then.

The fact that people complained the benufits cap, which is equivilent to a wage of £35,000 a year, was going to force people into poverty kind of suggests how wild benifit spending was getting.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

State handouts are not that great, get real, my mum brought 4 kids up alone and worked full time "

I never said that anyone on benefits was well off, just that they are provided for in that they have a roof over their head and enough money to feed & clothe themselves and pay utility bills

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I guess what I was getting at is that it appears that a lot of women (NOT ALL) are still swayed by successful men.

I'm not talking about guys with penis extension sports cars and flash money around just average successful men.

I got to thinking about this as I was watching a youtube video about how women have the same employment opportunities as men these days (many more in STEM subjects) and so my thinking is that the ones that still go for the more successful guys basically want to have their cake and eat it.

Am I making sense? I'm wondering if the age old impulses for male selection based on status has changed at all given the evolution of gender roles in society.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Perhaps they want a man that will provide for them if they needed it rather than a useless waste of space that they have to support. I maybe old fashioned but I still believe it is my duty to look after my family, but would never stop Mrs R from working or contributing what she wants to. Still open doors and walk on the outside of pavements for her to, oh and carry shopping for her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My husband 'provides' money by working but I 'provide' childcare for our family. I'm assuming money is what you were referring to? Not the nurturing of a human being, that's lower on the list right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I guess what I was getting at is that it appears that a lot of women (NOT ALL) are still swayed by successful men.

I'm not talking about guys with penis extension sports cars and flash money around just average successful men.

Am I making sense? I'm wondering if the age old impulses for male selection based on status has changed at all given the evolution of gender roles in society.

You're right but it's not something people want to admit to, maybe they aren't even consciously doing it. But one example is that in online dating research mens incomes correlate nicely with profile interest as do women's attractiveness.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"My husband 'provides' money by working but I 'provide' childcare for our family. I'm assuming money is what you were referring to? Not the nurturing of a human being, that's lower on the list right?

Far more important, but is undervalued by society, some men seem to like being househusbands these days too and if the wife can earn more then why not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The difference in unemployment rates between men and women would suggest so :p"

Well when You start having the babies and We get Equal wages, I will be only too happy to swap.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Perhaps they want a man that will provide for them if they needed it rather than a useless waste of space that they have to support. I maybe old fashioned but I still believe it is my duty to look after my family, but would never stop Mrs R from working or contributing what she wants to. Still open doors and walk on the outside of pavements for her to, oh and carry shopping for her

There is some gender bias in how you have worded your comment.

A 'man' that will provide for them if they needed it...

a 'useless waste of space' that they have to support.

So its ok for women to need to be provided for by a 'man' but if a man needs to be provided for then he is a 'useless waste of space'?

Of course you believe it's your duty to look after your family.Every man and woman with a family should and I'm sure does believe that. As for opening doors and carrying shopping...well thats just gentlemanly and nice

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I am wondering if the majority of women still select for male partners that can act as a provider?

Its a completely outdated and sexist viewpoint now surely?"

Financial Provision ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I guess what I was getting at is that it appears that a lot of women (NOT ALL) are still swayed by successful men.

I'm not talking about guys with penis extension sports cars and flash money around just average successful men.

Am I making sense? I'm wondering if the age old impulses for male selection based on status has changed at all given the evolution of gender roles in society.

I think successful people are attracted to other successful people, as they possibly share the same wavelength and outlook on life.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I guess what I was getting at is that it appears that a lot of women (NOT ALL) are still swayed by successful men.

I'm not talking about guys with penis extension sports cars and flash money around just average successful men.

Am I making sense? I'm wondering if the age old impulses for male selection based on status has changed at all given the evolution of gender roles in society.

Have their cake and eat it?

You're not really suggesting that if a woman is (financially) successful she shouldn't be allowed a (financially) successful partner too?!

Ever considered that some (financially) successful people may have particular traits that attract them to one another and it's nothing to do with income?

I'm actually finding the implications of what you're saying somewhat distasteful.

The apparent suggestion that a "successful" woman wanting a "successful" husband is wanting to "have her cake and eat it" is your gender issue and not ours.

Are you perhaps suggesting that all these "successful" women have a duty to marry less "successful" men and support them, since they're already doing quite all right for themselves?

This sounds like bitterness of a less "successful" man that the "successful" men are more desired than him.

Beautiful women do better than average looking women too, because men often prefer beautiful wives. That's just how life is.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You're right but it's not something people want to admit to, maybe they aren't even consciously doing it. But one example is that in online dating research mens incomes correlate nicely with profile interest as do women's attractiveness. "

I do think most of it is done unconsciously. It's kinda hardwired into all female animals to select for higher staus males. But I think as humans with a much higher self-awareness that we can and should challenge our self-imposed gender stereotypes.

During my degree my favourite subjects were evolution and animal behaviour so I'm genuinely interested in this but worried I may come across as chauvanistic. Trying to pick my words carefully

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I am wondering if the majority of women still select for male partners that can act as a provider?

Its a completely outdated and sexist viewpoint now surely?

Financial Provision ?"

I regret the wording of the title and OP now. I should have based it on status rather than provision.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

I would happily be a house husband,staying at home doing all the domestic shit,as my good lady worries about the financial side of things.i hate going to the office everyday.I'd much rather clean,cook,garden,and look after the kids.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

During my degree my favourite subjects were evolution and animal behaviour so I'm genuinely interested in this but worried I may come across as chauvanistic. Trying to pick my words carefully

You seem to think it's only women that have hard-wiring to select for certain traits. It's certainly only women you're criticising for it.

What exactly is it you want these women who want to "have their cake and eat it" to do? Why is it even your business if that is what they want?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I guess what I was getting at is that it appears that a lot of women (NOT ALL) are still swayed by successful men.

I'm not talking about guys with penis extension sports cars and flash money around just average successful men.

Am I making sense? I'm wondering if the age old impulses for male selection based on status has changed at all given the evolution of gender roles in society.

Have their cake and eat it?

You're not really suggesting that if a woman is (financially) successful she shouldn't be allowed a (financially) successful partner too?!

Beautiful women do better than average looking women too, because men often prefer beautiful wives. That's just how life is."

No I'm not suggesting that successful women shouldn't be allowed a successful partner. That would be ridiculous.

You are right about men selecting for beauty. Although I see that as an innate weakness as it has no bearing on the person. At least I can admit my guilt in that matter

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would happily be a house husband,staying at home doing all the domestic shit,as my good lady worries about the financial side of things.i hate going to the office everyday.I'd much rather clean,cook,garden,and look after the kids."

I think househusband would be my dream job as well

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Just give me the one with the biggest Cock ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You seem to think it's only women that have hard-wiring to select for certain traits. It's certainly only women you're criticising for it.

What exactly is it you want these women who want to "have their cake and eat it" to do? Why is it even your business if that is what they want?"

No men are also hardwired to select for certain traits (beauty) and should and do face criticism for it.

I don't want those women to do anything.

It's none of my business just something that interests me on an academic level.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I provide for myself.

I wouldn't go looking for a rich bloke to provide for me but equally I wouldn't be that fussed about going out with someone who's unemployed either.

I have my own money and I'm independent and if I got myself into a relationship I would at least want my partner to be on equal footing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I provide for myself.

I wouldn't go looking for a rich bloke to provide for me but equally I wouldn't be that fussed about going out with someone who's unemployed either.

I have my own money and I'm independent and if I got myself into a relationship I would at least want my partner to be on equal footing.

Thats the honest and open kind of comment I had hoped to hear

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

This is an odd one.

No - is the resounding and obvious answer.

And yet.

Looking at my situation, I pay the mortgage and all the bills excluding TV and (most) weekly shopping.

I do most of the house work, the vast majority of the cooking and I look after our daughter for more hours than anyone else.

Square that.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"This is an odd one.

No - is the resounding and obvious answer.

And yet.

Looking at my situation, I pay the mortgage and all the bills excluding TV and (most) weekly shopping.

I do most of the house work, the vast majority of the cooking and I look after our daughter for more hours than anyone else.

Square that. "

Or maybe I had feminism/equality beaten in to me by my mother...

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I think it's just a translation of what is hardwired. Men are more hardwired to 'go get' and women are more hardwired to 'nurture'. I undoubtedly generated more income in the business I ran with my ex, but I always felt like I was strapped to the front of his train.

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By *huramMan
over a year ago

London

Self sufficiency is a must.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Or maybe I had feminism/equality beaten in to me by my mother..."

I can relate to that

It's important to realise though that feminism and equality are very different things in modern society. Modern feminism is basically just misandry and mostly frowned upon.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Or maybe I had feminism/equality beaten in to me by my mother...

I can relate to that

It's important to realise though that feminism and equality are very different things in modern society. Modern feminism is basically just misandry and mostly frowned upon."

Oh, I'm not complaining in the slightest - in fact I think elusive 'equality' is NOT enough.

Not for women, not for BME people, not for gay rights...

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Self sufficiency is a must. "

And again, something the desert taught me...

You can survive on your own

But to thrive requires co-operation

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

"I am wondering if the majority of women still select for male partners that can act as a provider?

Its a completely outdated and sexist viewpoint now surely?"

I wish. I've always been the provider in my relationships. I'd like one which is equal at the very least! Although being a little spoilt would be nice for a change if i'm honest!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Security is something the majority of people crave especially when starting a family.

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By *lovisMan
over a year ago

Twickenham

We're still hard wired genetically that the men who are stronger go out and hunt mammoths and the women stay in the cave and look after the children.

It was like that for thousands of years - a couple of decades of rehashing the position isn't going to change things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're still hard wired genetically that the men who are stronger go out and hunt mammoths and the women stay in the cave and look after the children.

It was like that for thousands of years - a couple of decades of rehashing the position isn't going to change things. "

Tru Dat. But evolution also produces variation and no doubt some women today would be happy and able to go hunt a mammoth.

Some just seem to forget that they don't represent the majority of the population and have a tendency to look down upon women who get a lot of satisfaction and pride from being a home maker.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got to thinking about this as I was watching a youtube video about how women have the same employment opportunities as men these days (many more in STEM subjects "

I must say how much I loath the kind of people that say "how can we get more women into STEM subjects?" Which assumes on behalf of other women that they would want to get into STEM.

Interestingly the same people never seem too interested in answering "how can we get more men to be primary school teachers?" - which casts considerable doubt whether gender equality is their real motivation...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's funny is most Stem industries are crying our for women.

Ours has a standing target of 25% of each years recruitment should be women and they push hard for it and the women who do get taken on get all the good perks during training (trips and diners out etc)

Last year's round they managed 1.... not 1% one woman lol.

It's not that there art places for women it's just it seems most women do not want to work in engineering or heavy industry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What's funny is most Stem industries are crying our for women.

Last year's round they managed 1.... not 1% one woman lol.

It's not that there art places for women it's just it seems most women do not want to work in engineering or heavy industry.

Just like the average man seems less inclined to be a primary school teacher than the average woman. Could it be human nature... no it must be a conspiracy (even though girls are systematically outperforming boys at schools and therefore have even better grades to access and study STEM subjects at university - IF they wanted to)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry. Im old school.

When children are involved, one partner to be bread winner whilst the other is the home maker.

Sorry to be old fashioned but two different roles need two different providers.

And how single parents manage i just do not know

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By *eareenaCouple
over a year ago

Rockford

I also think it depends how you define the word provider. I like my independence and if I do decide to partner with someone I hope it will be balance of providing for each other in whatever way our personal skills can apply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What's funny is most Stem industries are crying our for women.

Last year's round they managed 1.... not 1% one woman lol.

It's not that there art places for women it's just it seems most women do not want to work in engineering or heavy industry.

The brackets bit is only since the shift from exams to coursework.

Boys are proven to do much worse in coursework than girls. Also I never got how coursework was a good measure of retained knowledge when most of the parents I know do their children's course work for them :/

Males face quite a lot of problems if they want to do anything in clip care there's always the suspicion they are only doing it cause they're dirty dirty peados2 amongst some

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sorry. Im old school.

When children are involved, one partner to be bread winner whilst the other is the home maker.

Sorry to be old fashioned but two different roles need two different providers.

And how single parents manage i just do not know"

30 hours a week free child care starts next year under the tories plans.

That's nearly a full working week of cover

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. Have no desire for any man or woman to provide for me. Ever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. Have no desire for any man or woman to provide for me. Ever."

Well except the sugar daddy you had who paid for you through your studies?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. Have no desire for any man or woman to provide for me. Ever.

Well except the sugar daddy you had who paid for you through your studies? "

Yup. That was quite nice. He did buy me lots of books.

I don't have that relationship anymore - but thanks for your concern for my moral compass.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when they say lover or provider , women mean

Lover = excites them

Provider = pays for their affection

Guess what guys women don't care whether your rich poor , ugly fat etc etc . They go for personality

Blokes don't get women because the women have creepy weirdo radar .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The short answer , OP- is yes they do.

You would be well advised, to never ever forget this fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What's funny is most Stem industries are crying our for women.

Last year's round they managed 1.... not 1% one woman lol.

It's not that there art places for women it's just it seems most women do not want to work in engineering or heavy industry.

The brackets bit is only since the shift from exams to coursework.

Males face quite a lot of problems if they want to do anything in clip care there's always the suspicion they are only doing it cause they're dirty dirty peados2 amongst some

Fair point but I'd say coursework was more representative of the skills most jobs use compared to exams. Especially in STEM.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Sorry. Im old school.

When children are involved, one partner to be bread winner whilst the other is the home maker.

Sorry to be old fashioned but two different roles need two different providers.

And how single parents manage i just do not know"

Not sure i agree, we brought our kids up together as a 'partnership'..

when i was not on duty i would when Lynn was on duty do the domestic things which i have always done..

the days of the 1950's 'good little woman' are long gone and in the current climate whereby both partners more likely have to 'provide' financially its got to better for a dads relationship with his kids ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At no point did i say good little woman or even intimate that. I said two roles, two people and top marks for the super person who does both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. Have no desire for any man or woman to provide for me. Ever.

Well except the sugar daddy you had who paid for you through your studies? "

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

If I was waiting for 'man the provider' for a relationship, I'd be waiting til Rapture. I seem to attract cocklodgers in droves.

Luckily I have no need for a provider. I provide for myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I provide for myself.

I wouldn't go looking for a rich bloke to provide for me but equally I wouldn't be that fussed about going out with someone who's unemployed either.

I have my own money and I'm independent and if I got myself into a relationship I would at least want my partner to be on equal footing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The way I see it is most women will seek out a man who will be a good provider because that is how they biologically programmed. She will do this because her off spring are more likely to survive if the man is a good provider/protector.

Remember it is not that long ago that we were still living in small nomadic groups.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

We shared everything from the minute we met,the money all went in together every month and all came out every month,we have both worked,sometimes more than one job and worked around bringing up 2 children,no one was the main provider we shared the load

It's only now that the children have grown up that I can at last my own secret offshore account though.....yipppeeeee

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

It depends on what you consider to be 'provider'.

Certainly look at old famous men, with money and status, they never go short on attention from much younger and comparatively more attractive women.

Look at the WAG culture too. A lot of those sportsmen would be on FAB if they weren't famous and/or had money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My wife earns three or four times what I do!.

I do outside shed work, gardening, diy, vegetables, animals.

She does inside stuff, definitely cooking (nobody likes my poison.. Even me), washing although I often do that as well, cleaning, hoovering, although technically we haven't got a hoover

Sensible stuff with the kids is her job, I do the not very sensible stuff with the kids!.

It's all swings and roundabouts in the end

I don't think women are any different than men, genetically were all programmed to do as little as possible, were all programmed to cheat, were all programmed to pass on your genes as affectively as possible!

But programming is only a small piece of the big machine, and just as with computes we tend to blame it rather than ourselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd rather a poor man who worked hard and was there emotionally than someone just paying the bills. I manage that myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It depends on what you consider to be 'provider'.

Certainly look at old famous men, with money and status, they never go short on attention from much younger and comparatively more attractive women.

Look at the WAG culture too. A lot of those sportsmen would be on FAB if they weren't famous and/or had money."

Nobody every says that about nobody guys who date successful women though - do they? Are they not hunting the cash too?

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"It depends on what you consider to be 'provider'.

Certainly look at old famous men, with money and status, they never go short on attention from much younger and comparatively more attractive women.

Look at the WAG culture too. A lot of those sportsmen would be on FAB if they weren't famous and/or had money.

Nobody every says that about nobody guys who date successful women though - do they? Are they not hunting the cash too?"

The OP was about men as providers, that's what I was discussing.

But yes men are fortune hunters too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What's funny is most Stem industries are crying our for women.

Last year's round they managed 1.... not 1% one woman lol.

It's not that there art places for women it's just it seems most women do not want to work in engineering or heavy industry.

That was the exact argument put forward in the Youtube vid I watched.

It seems as if less suitable women often get picked ahead of more qualified men in order to meet this ridiculous quota when there aren't enough women interested in pursuing those careers.

As long as equality is enforced there shouldn't be the need for quotas.

This is getting off-topic though

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?"

Too busy thinking about shoes I imagine.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

Too busy thinking about shoes I imagine."

and lipstick , don't forget lippy!

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?"

Another big problem is keeping women in STEM jobs once they're on the ladder.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?"

I think its just down to different interests and motivations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

Too busy thinking about shoes I imagine.

and lipstick , don't forget lippy!"

I think you'll find they're far too busy thinking about babies. Actually.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

I think its just down to different interests and motivations.

and biases

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

I think its just down to different interests and motivations.

and biases"

And guidance at 13.

(sorry, I read the OP and the last post).

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

I think its just down to different interests and motivations.

and biases

And guidance at 13.

(sorry, I read the OP and the last post)."

Well if you're ever feeling hysterical and need calming dear; read the rest.

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By *overs14Couple
over a year ago

norwich

I didn't go out looking for a man who had a good enough job/salary to provide for me. My husband earnt ok money when we got together but earns much more now. I've been lucky enough to be able to stay at home and bring up our children for the last 7 years whilst he's gone to work. Now our youngest is about to start full time school I'll go back to work.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

I think its just down to different interests and motivations.

and biases

And guidance at 13.

(sorry, I read the OP and the last post)."

Got to agree with this. Too many companies have quotas, but spend most of their time ignoring girls at the very age they could be influencing them.

I did aim for a career in engineering, but my maths skills weren't up to snuff. Happy now in my current job, which luckily has no glass ceiling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont need a man to provide anything for me i work my ass off to have the things i want i wud never expect a man or even a woman to provide for me. Im very independant and expect nothing x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don't and wouldn't dream of expecting a man to keep me. I have my own money and perfectly capable of paying my own way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd say you worded the OP right. There are still loads of women who see men as their magic carpet to a better life... and heck why wouldn't they. The trouble is not particularly in this line of thinking... it's in the implicit sexism when you deviate from it. For example, when a woman supports a man there is still a massive stigma to that... and also when men see women as their own magic carpets we tend to see that really negatively. It's also odd when you get feminists who want to be treated equal... and yet also want the guy to work down the pit 7 days a week and pamper them like princesses. Just my thoughts on the matter. I think there's still some inequalities on both sides that need clearing up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All my male ex ever provided me with was a few black eyes, bruises and a shit load of mental torture. None of which I ever deserved!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I like a man to be finaically secure but as far as providing for me...nah I have my own money for that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who provides the men with the things to provide the women with?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

I think its just down to different interests and motivations.

and biases

And guidance at 13.

(sorry, I read the OP and the last post).

Well if you're ever feeling hysterical and need calming dear; read the rest."

It's no longer possible for me to get hysterical - I had a hysterectomy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?"

Not sure, why aren't men interested in being primary school teachers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

Not sure, why aren't men interested in being primary school teachers? "
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Five year olds drive you insane

Just look at any primary school teacher

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

I just kill a woolly mammoth.

Meet me in cave, women. I have big meat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just kill a woolly mammoth.

Meet me in cave, women. I have big meat. "

Form an orderly queue ladies!

BEHIND me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why aren't women interested in STEM careers ?

Not sure, why aren't men interested in being primary school teachers? .

Five year olds drive you insane

Just look at any primary school teacher

To be honest, if I was to be a teacher I'd rather teach primary school or university (i.e not that horrible teen phase) - funilly enough there's a programme on BBC about some Chinese teachers coming to British schools and generally be unable to understand why the children are so I'll disciplined - caused quite a lot of discussion in our household!

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

A man has never provided for me once in my life, I've had an equal partner or I have been the one to bail them out the shit! So an attitude like that is not a great one to be behold in my opinion.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I just kill a woolly mammoth.

Meet me in cave, women. I have big meat.

Form an orderly queue ladies!

BEHIND me!

He's just after someone to cook it for him.

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By *abloversCouple
over a year ago

London

Do women expect this anymore? I like a man to treat me but expect to do the same in return. I Fi have never been a freeloader. I earn my own money, always have and always will, that way I'm guaranteed to get what I want x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just kill a woolly mammoth.

Meet me in cave, women. I have big meat.

Form an orderly queue ladies!

BEHIND me!

He's just after someone to cook it for him."

pmsl

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