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"Meaning what do you offer to try and sell yourself on your profile or mail? Read so many dozens of profiles of guy's who claim to be able to make women gush, they are amazing in bed, hung like a horse.. Tbh this doesn't make you stand out actually just another egotistical narcissist who will probably be spending more time looking at himself in the mirror during a meet than at the female in question. And women, it's easy for you right! We have seen many profiles where the woman is overly aggressive and has a list of demands longer than most guy's cocks. Very off putting. And us couples are not any better, lot's of very samey profiles, bi only women, guy's who must be repeaters and hung. So how do we all sell ourselves better, how can we bring a bit of honesty and clarity back to meeting? What do we need to do to redress the balance of truth over bullshit? Can we start? This is us, Normal mid 40's couple, nothing exceptional, fairly shy,but polite, clean and discreet. We cannot guarantee that we will Rock your world she is not a supermodel and he has a very average size penis. We don't like rude,vulgar loud aggressive people. We are not kinky or prudes. We are probably just like you. Our selling point is honesty. Thank you. Xx" | |||
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"Selling point? I didn't realise we were meant to be charging. Back to business school for me. Although "cash cows" and "dogs" aren't the most affectionate nicknames. " Well how else was I supposed to title thread. Is how we attract the right sort of people to us a better thread title? Or course we not "selling "ourselves as such, your just being argumentative for the sake of it as most do. At the end of the day we are trying to attract others to meet and play with (well some of us are anyway) with this will come a certain degree of selling yourself as it were. Women on here really don't have to due the way things are on here So they can be, fuck you this is me tough shit if you don't like me there is a 100 others who won't care. But for some probably guy's they really have to work at it and "sell "themselves and try to stand out. My point is there is far too much bullshit and bragging, aggression. Just thought it would be nice if people can be more honest. But hey ho perhaps we are the odd one's wanting this and are the weirdos. | |||
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"I haven't got a.selling point people like.me or they.don't ." Same here. I don't try to sell myself anyway. I'm just me. People either get me or they don't. I like to think of myself as a decent, respectful guy. I think eventually like-minded women will see that and warm to me and maybe even come and say hello! | |||
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"I haven't got a.selling point people like.me or they.don't . Same here. I don't try to sell myself anyway. I'm just me. People either get me or they don't. I like to think of myself as a decent, respectful guy. I think eventually like-minded women will see that and warm to me and maybe even come and say hello! " Well perhaps we all need to wake up and smell the coffee. Please feel free to correct me. But surely in putting up our profiles with pic's and information about ourselves. It's no different from trying to sell a car on autotrader? Yes there is no money involved but we are trying to attract the right person/s to our profile by virtue of posting pic's and a description of our like and dislikes. To this end are we not selling ourselves? Selling is the wrong word maybe but surely you get my point? | |||
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"Selling point? I didn't realise we were meant to be charging. Back to business school for me. Although "cash cows" and "dogs" aren't the most affectionate nicknames. " We 'sell' ourselves on our best attributes to determine our 'price' which potential meets can then 'pay' via the appeal of their own best attributes. Its like an economy built on sex appeal and charisma | |||
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"I haven't got a.selling point people like.me or they.don't . Same here. I don't try to sell myself anyway. I'm just me. People either get me or they don't. I like to think of myself as a decent, respectful guy. I think eventually like-minded women will see that and warm to me and maybe even come and say hello! Well perhaps we all need to wake up and smell the coffee. Please feel free to correct me. But surely in putting up our profiles with pic's and information about ourselves. It's no different from trying to sell a car on autotrader? Yes there is no money involved but we are trying to attract the right person/s to our profile by virtue of posting pic's and a description of our like and dislikes. To this end are we not selling ourselves? Selling is the wrong word maybe but surely you get my point?" Selling is not the wrong word. | |||
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"Meaning what do you offer to try and sell yourself on your profile or mail? Read so many dozens of profiles of guy's who claim to be able to make women gush, they are amazing in bed, hung like a horse.. Tbh this doesn't make you stand out actually just another egotistical narcissist who will probably be spending more time looking at himself in the mirror during a meet than at the female in question. And women, it's easy for you right! We have seen many profiles where the woman is overly aggressive and has a list of demands longer than most guy's cocks. Very off putting. And us couples are not any better, lot's of very samey profiles, bi only women, guy's who must be repeaters and hung. So how do we all sell ourselves better, how can we bring a bit of honesty and clarity back to meeting? What do we need to do to redress the balance of truth over bullshit? Can we start? This is us, Normal mid 40's couple, nothing exceptional, fairly shy,but polite, clean and discreet. We cannot guarantee that we will Rock your world she is not a supermodel and he has a very average size penis. We don't like rude,vulgar loud aggressive people. We are not kinky or prudes. We are probably just like you. Our selling point is honesty. Thank you. Xx" . Mine are . 1. A variety of pictures on profile 2. Numerous hobbies and interests . Sex is only a small part of your life . 3.Available in a variety of locations including Cap d Agde ; London ; Belfast ;Cambridgeshire and Herts . 4. A detailed profile which allows members to make an informed decision. 5. Tested for all STIs regularly 6. Read a variety papers including the Daily Mail ; Telegraph and Times . 7. Experienced and fairly well hung . 8. Polite and do not feel offended if rejected . 9. Will bring condoms and drinks 10. Will pay for a hotel room if necessary 11. Happy to be filmed or videoed . 12. Have performed at sex clubs in Cap d Agde in front of an audience . | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? " Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x | |||
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" Well how else was I supposed to title thread. Is how we attract the right sort of people to us a better thread title? Or course we not "selling "ourselves as such, your just being argumentative for the sake of it as most do. At the end of the day we are trying to attract others to meet and play with (well some of us are anyway) with this will come a certain degree of selling yourself as it were. Women on here really don't have to due the way things are on here So they can be, fuck you this is me tough shit if you don't like me there is a 100 others who won't care. But for some probably guy's they really have to work at it and "sell "themselves and try to stand out. My point is there is far too much bullshit and bragging, aggression. Just thought it would be nice if people can be more honest. But hey ho perhaps we are the odd one's wanting this and are the weirdos. " I was being facetious rather than argumentative. But that doesn't really come across very well in text. I've been on fab as a single male and in a couple. As a single male it's more or less a lottery if you're looking for couples or single females. You're in the swarm. You have to meet two people's tastes in personality, physical appearance, wants and needs, and then hope that when you send a message they are even in the mood at the time, or else it gets lost in a spiralling inbox. As a couple you already have inbuilt selling points. Sure, it's lazy, but you happen to be in one of the more sought after groups. The best way for single men to sell themselves (to us anyway) is try to write an interesting first message rather than just write a porn script. | |||
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"the pooch , walking and a large selection of kites" well its the minions that hooked me into your zones | |||
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" Its like an economy built on sex appeal and charisma " In that case, my partner is the bread winner. | |||
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"the pooch , walking and a large selection of kites well its the minions that hooked me into your zones" ha ha and yes my tiribe of poorly trained Minions | |||
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" Its like an economy built on sex appeal and charisma In that case, my partner is the bread winner. " Shall I assume it's the male half talking then, such is the state of the swingers sellers market? | |||
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" Well how else was I supposed to title thread. Is how we attract the right sort of people to us a better thread title? Or course we not "selling "ourselves as such, your just being argumentative for the sake of it as most do. At the end of the day we are trying to attract others to meet and play with (well some of us are anyway) with this will come a certain degree of selling yourself as it were. Women on here really don't have to due the way things are on here So they can be, fuck you this is me tough shit if you don't like me there is a 100 others who won't care. But for some probably guy's they really have to work at it and "sell "themselves and try to stand out. My point is there is far too much bullshit and bragging, aggression. Just thought it would be nice if people can be more honest. But hey ho perhaps we are the odd one's wanting this and are the weirdos. I was being facetious rather than argumentative. But that doesn't really come across very well in text. I've been on fab as a single male and in a couple. As a single male it's more or less a lottery if you're looking for couples or single females. You're in the swarm. You have to meet two people's tastes in personality, physical appearance, wants and needs, and then hope that when you send a message they are even in the mood at the time, or else it gets lost in a spiralling inbox. As a couple you already have inbuilt selling points. Sure, it's lazy, but you happen to be in one of the more sought after groups. The best way for single men to sell themselves (to us anyway) is try to write an interesting first message rather than just write a porn script. " Totally agree regards the lottery thing for guy's. It must be extremely frustrating for guy's who try their hardest to tick all the boxes and appear to be what fems /couples want. An honest well written message is always preferred to "wanna fuck " I hope this thread has been taken in the way it's meant to be by people. It's not intended to criticise or belittle anyone More spark debate and encourage honest dialogue between members. Happy swinging everyone xx | |||
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"I haven't got a.selling point people like.me or they.don't . Same here. I don't try to sell myself anyway. I'm just me. People either get me or they don't. I like to think of myself as a decent, respectful guy. I think eventually like-minded women will see that and warm to me and maybe even come and say hello! Well perhaps we all need to wake up and smell the coffee. Please feel free to correct me. But surely in putting up our profiles with pic's and information about ourselves. It's no different from trying to sell a car on autotrader? Yes there is no money involved but we are trying to attract the right person/s to our profile by virtue of posting pic's and a description of our like and dislikes. To this end are we not selling ourselves? Selling is the wrong word maybe but surely you get my point?" Yes, I guess we are all selling ourselves to some degree but some have very different ways of doing it. Like someone else said, I'm not going to change who I am just to get a shag. A lot of guys on here really do try to sell themselves, often coming across as really desperate in my opinion. They'll literally say and do anything to get a shag. It's all just about their sexual prowess. They appear to have nothing else to say except...'I've got a cock sooo big', 'look at my amazing abs', 'I can make a woman cum ten times just by looking at her!' I just couldn't do that! It would be like selling my soul or something. I guess you'll get certain women doing that but not necessarily the women I would like. So I'll just stick to being me I guess. | |||
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" Shall I assume it's the male half talking then, such is the state of the swingers sellers market? " Your assumption is correct. I'm checking the joint bank account on here whilst she is doing "important things". Most markets tend to go through boom or bust, however the swing market seems focused more heavily on the busts. | |||
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"I haven't got a.selling point people like.me or they.don't . Same here. I don't try to sell myself anyway. I'm just me. People either get me or they don't. I like to think of myself as a decent, respectful guy. I think eventually like-minded women will see that and warm to me and maybe even come and say hello! Well perhaps we all need to wake up and smell the coffee. Please feel free to correct me. But surely in putting up our profiles with pic's and information about ourselves. It's no different from trying to sell a car on autotrader? Yes there is no money involved but we are trying to attract the right person/s to our profile by virtue of posting pic's and a description of our like and dislikes. To this end are we not selling ourselves? Selling is the wrong word maybe but surely you get my point? Yes, I guess we are all selling ourselves to some degree but some have very different ways of doing it. Like someone else said, I'm not going to change who I am just to get a shag. A lot of guys on here really do try to sell themselves, often coming across as really desperate in my opinion. They'll literally say and do anything to get a shag. It's all just about their sexual prowess. They appear to have nothing else to say except...'I've got a cock sooo big', 'look at my amazing abs', 'I can make a woman cum ten times just by looking at her!' I just couldn't do that! It would be like selling my soul or something. I guess you'll get certain women doing that but not necessarily the women I would like. So I'll just stick to being me I guess." | |||
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"Selling point? I didn't realise we were meant to be charging. Back to business school for me. Although "cash cows" and "dogs" aren't the most affectionate nicknames. Well how else was I supposed to title thread. Is how we attract the right sort of people to us a better thread title? Or course we not "selling "ourselves as such, your just being argumentative for the sake of it as most do. At the end of the day we are trying to attract others to meet and play with (well some of us are anyway) with this will come a certain degree of selling yourself as it were. Women on here really don't have to due the way things are on here So they can be, fuck you this is me tough shit if you don't like me there is a 100 others who won't care. But for some probably guy's they really have to work at it and "sell "themselves and try to stand out. My point is there is far too much bullshit and bragging, aggression. Just thought it would be nice if people can be more honest. But hey ho perhaps we are the odd one's wanting this and are the weirdos. " Far too much aggression on here. Probably just forum bullshit, one upmanship. Those with ego issues. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x" It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet | |||
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"I haven't got a.selling point people like.me or they.don't . Same here. I don't try to sell myself anyway. I'm just me. People either get me or they don't. I like to think of myself as a decent, respectful guy. I think eventually like-minded women will see that and warm to me and maybe even come and say hello! Well perhaps we all need to wake up and smell the coffee. Please feel free to correct me. But surely in putting up our profiles with pic's and information about ourselves. It's no different from trying to sell a car on autotrader? Yes there is no money involved but we are trying to attract the right person/s to our profile by virtue of posting pic's and a description of our like and dislikes. To this end are we not selling ourselves? Selling is the wrong word maybe but surely you get my point?" It is the right word. Hence why I rarely have a 'proper' profile. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet " You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet " You have the option of sifting through the mails you get and selecting the ones you like best, we don't, we have to actively LOOK for them. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho" You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet " Sounds like a job for the health and safety department with all those men to step over | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You have the option of sifting through the mails you get and selecting the ones you like best, we don't, we have to actively LOOK for them." No I don't. And I have to actively look as well if I want to meet. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet Sounds like a job for the health and safety department with all those men to step over " Ever had so much of something you can't face looking at it any more? | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet Sounds like a job for the health and safety department with all those men to step over Ever had so much of something you can't face looking at it any more? " NO!!! that is exactly my point. Clearly I'm the only single female on the whole of fab that doesn't get loads of messages.... | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You have the option of sifting through the mails you get and selecting the ones you like best, we don't, we have to actively LOOK for them. No I don't." You're telling me you don't get 10+ messages a day...? "And I have to actively look as well if I want to meet. " Uh huh - the difference is, you're so much more likely to get a reply than we are. Trust me, you will lose this debate. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet Sounds like a job for the health and safety department with all those men to step over Ever had so much of something you can't face looking at it any more? " Honestly no I haven't but I'm intrigued to know your answer now. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You have the option of sifting through the mails you get and selecting the ones you like best, we don't, we have to actively LOOK for them. No I don't. You're telling me you don't get 10+ messages a day...? And I have to actively look as well if I want to meet. Uh huh - the difference is, you're so much more likely to get a reply than we are. Trust me, you will lose this debate." Trust me....i bet it feels loads worse knowing you are in a minority of single women not inundated than one of the majority of single men that don't get a lot of messages. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet Sounds like a job for the health and safety department with all those men to step over Ever had so much of something you can't face looking at it any more? NO!!! that is exactly my point. Clearly I'm the only single female on the whole of fab that doesn't get loads of messages...." I think what happens is when new ladies arrive on fab's they get lots of stupid messages for a period of time. After a while being here you make friends and you then just mainly chat to them and maybe the odd new person. So I don't think you would be the only lady in the position. But that's just how I see it so it could be totally squiffy. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You have the option of sifting through the mails you get and selecting the ones you like best, we don't, we have to actively LOOK for them. No I don't. You're telling me you don't get 10+ messages a day...? And I have to actively look as well if I want to meet. Uh huh - the difference is, you're so much more likely to get a reply than we are. Trust me, you will lose this debate. Trust me....i bet it feels loads worse knowing you are in a minority of single women not inundated than one of the majority of single men that don't get a lot of messages. " I see, so you're trying to tell me, in all honesty, that if you message a single male you like the look of on here, typically your message will be: A. Deleted with no reply B. Read but not responded to C. Neither read nor responded to due to the sheer volume of other mails in their box - also known as the dreaded 'yellow wall of ignorance' ? | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You have the option of sifting through the mails you get and selecting the ones you like best, we don't, we have to actively LOOK for them. No I don't. You're telling me you don't get 10+ messages a day...? And I have to actively look as well if I want to meet. Uh huh - the difference is, you're so much more likely to get a reply than we are. Trust me, you will lose this debate. Trust me....i bet it feels loads worse knowing you are in a minority of single women not inundated than one of the majority of single men that don't get a lot of messages. " Honestly Scarlet I get a fraction of the messages now that I got when I first joined fab! Tbh I'm quite grateful - having 700 unread messages Isn't fun! I know a few women on the scene who get bombarded with messages - but everything they do on here is designed to attract attention/fabs! They'll post several pics a day, display lots of provocative/suggestive statuses - and accept friend requests from hundreds of guys!! If that's what they want to do to feel good about themselves and to get lots of attention then great! It's suits some but not me!! Most of the messages I DO get are nice messages from lovely, attractive guys! I can count the number of abusive or 'filthy' messages I've received on one hand - so I'm happy with my profile etc as it is! A little attention from the right people is far better than a lot of attention from the wrong people I think Hun?? | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics." So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers" You must be mistaken. The Men say you do. The Men are always right. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers" Well you do have rather specific criteria, and that is obviously fine. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers You must be mistaken. The Men say you do. The Men are always right. " No of course we arnt always right, but if a lot of guys just in this thread are attracted to her then that must be fairly indicative of the male population of fab as a whole. | |||
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"I haven't got a.selling point people like.me or they.don't ." Totally this. Well said m'Lady, couldn't have put it better. | |||
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"Meaning what do you offer to try and sell yourself on your profile or mail? Read so many dozens of profiles of guy's who claim to be able to make women gush, they are amazing in bed, hung like a horse.. Tbh this doesn't make you stand out actually just another egotistical narcissist who will probably be spending more time looking at himself in the mirror during a meet than at the female in question. And women, it's easy for you right! We have seen many profiles where the woman is overly aggressive and has a list of demands longer than most guy's cocks. Very off putting. And us couples are not any better, lot's of very samey profiles, bi only women, guy's who must be repeaters and hung. So how do we all sell ourselves better, how can we bring a bit of honesty and clarity back to meeting? What do we need to do to redress the balance of truth over bullshit? Can we start? This is us, Normal mid 40's couple, nothing exceptional, fairly shy,but polite, clean and discreet. We cannot guarantee that we will Rock your world she is not a supermodel and he has a very average size penis. We don't like rude,vulgar loud aggressive people. We are not kinky or prudes. We are probably just like you. Our selling point is honesty. Thank you. Xx" That'll do. | |||
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"I haven't got a.selling point people like.me or they.don't . Totally this. Well said m'Lady, couldn't have put it better. " I think you have at least 2 selling points | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers You must be mistaken. The Men say you do. The Men are always right. " When I see guys posting about how all the women on here get hundreds of messages a day I always think 'alright mate, whatever makes you feel better about not getting a reply'. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers" Just wondering as you have a specific requirement in men then would this also narrow down the potential messages received? I'm not sure what the ratio is between mixed race and black gentlemen to white ones here is? | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers You must be mistaken. The Men say you do. The Men are always right. When I see guys posting about how all the women on here get hundreds of messages a day I always think 'alright mate, whatever makes you feel better about not getting a reply'." Women do get lots of replies, or at least the women that I have chatted to. It doesn't make me feel better or worse about anything. I get replies, because I try to be interesting funny and articulate. I can't do anything about being ugly tho. It's just as well a lot of women arnt that shallow other wise did still be a virgin. | |||
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"My selling point is my 6pack torso " Shhh I thought that was one of the best kept secrets on fab's now you have just blurted it out... Change your filter or you will be snowed under man... | |||
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" Well how else was I supposed to title thread. Is how we attract the right sort of people to us a better thread title? Or course we not "selling "ourselves as such, your just being argumentative for the sake of it as most do. At the end of the day we are trying to attract others to meet and play with (well some of us are anyway) with this will come a certain degree of selling yourself as it were. Women on here really don't have to due the way things are on here So they can be, fuck you this is me tough shit if you don't like me there is a 100 others who won't care. But for some probably guy's they really have to work at it and "sell "themselves and try to stand out. My point is there is far too much bullshit and bragging, aggression. Just thought it would be nice if people can be more honest. But hey ho perhaps we are the odd one's wanting this and are the weirdos. I was being facetious rather than argumentative. But that doesn't really come across very well in text. I've been on fab as a single male and in a couple. As a single male it's more or less a lottery if you're looking for couples or single females. You're in the swarm. You have to meet two people's tastes in personality, physical appearance, wants and needs, and then hope that when you send a message they are even in the mood at the time, or else it gets lost in a spiralling inbox. As a couple you already have inbuilt selling points. Sure, it's lazy, but you happen to be in one of the more sought after groups. The best way for single men to sell themselves (to us anyway) is try to write an interesting first message rather than just write a porn script. " . Single males having difficulty obtain meets can also work in your favourable ..Last week I had three meets and could have had another two but I was away for the weekend . I have ssen various couples for repeat meets over a five period. I did however meet them from a different site . In order to obtain meets you have to be able to market yourself correctly ; have good pictures and an interesting profile .In addition you will need the right attitude and also be able to perform well at the meet . Satisfy all these criteria and your meets will want to meet you again..After putting extensive efforts into marketing mself various couples that I have meet have my number and know that I am available within an hour . A two line profile and poor pictures will not result in many meets . I did however see one couple last week whose sole selection criteria was my pictures but that is unusual. As with most things in life , effort in has an impact on the result obtained . | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers You must be mistaken. The Men say you do. The Men are always right. When I see guys posting about how all the women on here get hundreds of messages a day I always think 'alright mate, whatever makes you feel better about not getting a reply'." This. If a guy was really what a woman was looking for then she'd notice. Blaming a lack of response on her inability to cope with a busy inbox, regardless of if that was 10 messages a day or 100 is pretty patronising. I know people who get hundreds of messages a week. They still meet. And those meets come from messages in their inboxes. The ones from profiles they're actually interested in from guys they're attracted to. A | |||
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"My selling point is my 6pack torso Shhh I thought that was one of the best kept secrets on fab's now you have just blurted it out... Change your filter or you will be snowed under man... " Good idea there and yes it was kinda a secret as well | |||
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"I'm not in to the whole the selling yourself thing. Besides, quality speaks for itself. " Nice one! | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers You must be mistaken. The Men say you do. The Men are always right. When I see guys posting about how all the women on here get hundreds of messages a day I always think 'alright mate, whatever makes you feel better about not getting a reply'." | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers Just wondering as you have a specific requirement in men then would this also narrow down the potential messages received? I'm not sure what the ratio is between mixed race and black gentlemen to white ones here is?" Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about lack of messages I'm just pointing out that not all women are the most desired things on fab. And yes i believe my preferences do play a part in me not getting many messages. . Oh but wait a minute there is that other myth that single guys don't read profiles. ...i certainly do appear to be an anomaly if you believe all you read on the forum | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet Sounds like a job for the health and safety department with all those men to step over Ever had so much of something you can't face looking at it any more? NO!!! that is exactly my point. Clearly I'm the only single female on the whole of fab that doesn't get loads of messages...." Maybe they read your profile and realise they're not what your looking for, so don't fill up your inbox with junk mail. Revolutionary thinking, but it might be right. Editors note; replace "they" with "i". | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet You are very attractive so I'm sure you do get a lot of offers, I never said they would be quality offers tho You are very very wrong. Maybe one a day and that is only because I regularly put up pics. So your saying you don't get a lot of offers Or are you saying the quality is high? i don't get a lot of offers Just wondering as you have a specific requirement in men then would this also narrow down the potential messages received? I'm not sure what the ratio is between mixed race and black gentlemen to white ones here is? Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about lack of messages I'm just pointing out that not all women are the most desired things on fab. And yes i believe my preferences do play a part in me not getting many messages. . Oh but wait a minute there is that other myth that single guys don't read profiles. ...i certainly do appear to be an anomaly if you believe all you read on the forum " So actually you do get a lot of attention but you filter out a lot that don't fit your requirements. In essence your having your pick of what's available and only selecting those that fit the bill. It just so happens that your criteria are quite narrow I always read profiles how else will I know if that person is some one I want to know better | |||
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"As it's been said before "you either like what you see and read or you don't." A USP means sweet FA if you don't match that person's preferences. In fact, having a USP could potentially work against you by highlighting something people might not like. Just introduce yourself, try not to be psycho and let the chips fall where they may! " This. | |||
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"I'm widely credited for inventing bees. That one kind of blows anyone's socks off. " For me... Your ass is all the selling point you need! | |||
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"I'm widely credited for inventing bees. That one kind of blows anyone's socks off. For me... Your ass is all the selling point you need! " I really think we should swap arses for a while as I'd like to spend some quality time with yours. FYI mine detaches. | |||
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"I'm widely credited for inventing bees. That one kind of blows anyone's socks off. For me... Your ass is all the selling point you need! I really think we should swap arses for a while as I'd like to spend some quality time with yours. FYI mine detaches." SOLD!!! | |||
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"Meaning what do you offer to try and sell yourself on your profile or mail? Read so many dozens of profiles of guy's who claim to be able to make women gush, they are amazing in bed, hung like a horse.. Tbh this doesn't make you stand out actually just another egotistical narcissist who will probably be spending more time looking at himself in the mirror during a meet than at the female in question. And women, it's easy for you right! We have seen many profiles where the woman is overly aggressive and has a list of demands longer than most guy's cocks. Very off putting. And us couples are not any better, lot's of very samey profiles, bi only women, guy's who must be repeaters and hung. So how do we all sell ourselves better, how can we bring a bit of honesty and clarity back to meeting? What do we need to do to redress the balance of truth over bullshit? Can we start? This is us, Normal mid 40's couple, nothing exceptional, fairly shy,but polite, clean and discreet. We cannot guarantee that we will Rock your world she is not a supermodel and he has a very average size penis. We don't like rude,vulgar loud aggressive people. We are not kinky or prudes. We are probably just like you. Our selling point is honesty. Thank you. Xx" some womens profile are very aggresive and demands are over the top and some oe them are butt ugly!! | |||
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"I'm widely credited for inventing bees. That one kind of blows anyone's socks off. " Well they were kinda stiff legged until I came along. I invented their knees | |||
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"I'm widely credited for inventing bees. That one kind of blows anyone's socks off. Well they were kinda stiff legged until I came along. I invented their knees " Respekkkk! | |||
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"I was asked this question over a year ago & I gave a detailed reply re my USP on Fabs. Now, I pretty much have the belief that it comes down to the basics ~ I have tits & a fanny. " Great pair of tits tho | |||
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"I was asked this question over a year ago & I gave a detailed reply re my USP on Fabs. Now, I pretty much have the belief that it comes down to the basics ~ I have tits & a fanny. Great pair of tits tho " Why thank you.... | |||
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"I was asked this question over a year ago & I gave a detailed reply re my USP on Fabs. Now, I pretty much have the belief that it comes down to the basics ~ I have tits & a fanny. " Quality. | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet Sounds like a job for the health and safety department with all those men to step over Ever had so much of something you can't face looking at it any more? Honestly no I haven't but I'm intrigued to know your answer now. " I had my filters to allow men to message me because I have so many profiles in a 5 mile area I get physically ill scrolling through them. I made my age range smaller to lessen the traffic. Even being a new profile and not verified I was getting message after message after message. I have said no thank you a lot. Occasionally a profile looks interesting and I speak to the man. That may be 1 profile in 100. I got sick of looking through profiles. Apart from age my preferences are very open so when I search myself hundreds of profiles come up. I'm not saying that every man who messages me will want to meet once they get to know me or that they weren't looking for wank talk but it's more profiles to look through. A lot of profiles look much the same with little text which makes it difficult to get any inspiration. | |||
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"Been very interesting reading all the different opinions expressed today. Thanks for taking part. Be good if we could have regular grown up debates, rather than just ending up with insults... " | |||
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"I don't buy into this theory that we have to sell ourselves to others. Surely it's more about whether there is a mutual attraction and a desire to have sex with that person not a list of attributes/personality traits that will make 2 or more people get it on? Thats easy to say when your sat upon the thing that everyone wants If a fox wants his lunch he has to chase it x It gets a bit boring the way everyone assumes all single women have their pick and men falling at their feet Sounds like a job for the health and safety department with all those men to step over Ever had so much of something you can't face looking at it any more? Honestly no I haven't but I'm intrigued to know your answer now. I had my filters to allow men to message me because I have so many profiles in a 5 mile area I get physically ill scrolling through them. I made my age range smaller to lessen the traffic. Even being a new profile and not verified I was getting message after message after message. I have said no thank you a lot. Occasionally a profile looks interesting and I speak to the man. That may be 1 profile in 100. I got sick of looking through profiles. Apart from age my preferences are very open so when I search myself hundreds of profiles come up. I'm not saying that every man who messages me will want to meet once they get to know me or that they weren't looking for wank talk but it's more profiles to look through. A lot of profiles look much the same with little text which makes it difficult to get any inspiration. " Well you do live in a highly populated area and London can be a very small place like that. There are many a different type of profile here the short fancy a shag ones to the more detailed ones but I do appreciate its hard to sift through that amount of profile without it feeling more like a job than enjoyment. So I see your profile is closed from contact to allow you the time to find the person you would most like to chat with which is a better way for you to work. | |||
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"I was asked this question over a year ago & I gave a detailed reply re my USP on Fabs. Now, I pretty much have the belief that it comes down to the basics ~ I have tits & a fanny. Great pair of tits tho Why thank you.... " You have a fanny why the hell was this not mentioned before | |||
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