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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Give your children the biggest hug, watch them smile as they play.... They make it worthwhile

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Well that was a waste of my time

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Well that was a waste of my time

Not at all. The O.P. knows and no one else needs to View x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think a deeply depressed individual will be lifted by watching their kids play? It will more than likely make them feel more worthless and depressed.

What's your idea of a depressive state getting a parking ticket?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Do you think a deeply depressed individual will be lifted by watching their kids play? It will more than likely make them feel more worthless and depressed.

What's your idea of a depressive state getting a parking ticket?"

Is that you Freud ?

You're wrong again.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Do you think a deeply depressed individual will be lifted by watching their kids play? It will more than likely make them feel more worthless and depressed.

What's your idea of a depressive state getting a parking ticket?"

Oh well I am sure the advice you gave her will work better,

Rather than bitch about mine

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Apologies. I didn't mean to cause a problem but decided it was better not to post my private life.

Sorry again.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Do you think a deeply depressed individual will be lifted by watching their kids play? It will more than likely make them feel more worthless and depressed.

What's your idea of a depressive state getting a parking ticket?"

chill out ..

he was just being positive..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Apologies. I didn't mean to cause a problem but decided it was better not to post my private life.

Sorry again."

No worries. YOu didn't cause bad feeling x

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Do you think a deeply depressed individual will be lifted by watching their kids play? It will more than likely make them feel more worthless and depressed.

What's your idea of a depressive state getting a parking ticket?"

Right Ray of sunshine you are....

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Apologies. I didn't mean to cause a problem but decided it was better not to post my private life.

Sorry again."

You're fine - emotional health is such an important aspect of our wellbeing, that I'd prefer to let you take the decisions you think are best. Look after yourself, whether the depression relates to you or others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apologies. I didn't mean to cause a problem but decided it was better not to post my private life.

Sorry again."

There's nothing wrong in reaching out for support. Depression comes in many forms and you should contact your GP also as well as look for support from friends and family and you can get through this I have no doubt in that. Good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apologies. I didn't mean to cause a problem but decided it was better not to post my private life.

Sorry again."

Its fine we all have dark hours , some.times it helps to talk to some one .

Please don't think me callus, but maybe the forums are not the best place.

There are some amazing people out there who can listen not judge and help.

I speak from experience.

Good luck and I hope your ok OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apologies. I didn't mean to cause a problem but decided it was better not to post my private life.

Sorry again."

Nooo, don't even think you've caused a problem sweetie.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apologies. I didn't mean to cause a problem but decided it was better not to post my private life.

Sorry again."

The forums are pretty much all about our private lives one way or the other.

Those that understand and have an experience of depression will not be upset at your post.

You've done the hard part, reaching out.

Please take the next step and speak to your GP. These days they are extremely good at helping and supporting people who suffer from depression.

Good luck to you OP. I hope things improve for you.

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By *rbusyhandsMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Samaritians

Mind

to name a couple of organisations you can phone.

Try speaking to someone completely anonmously who is trained, you can also call NHS 24 if you are at crisis point I believe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was a Samaritian

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Medication. Medication. Medication.

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, which can result from a trigger, or for no discernible reason.

The brain is an organ like every other and sometimes needs medical intervention to recover.

Go to your GP, darling.

Xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stick your face in a box of kittens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stick your face in a box of kittens"

Why make a joke about someone's misery and despair?

Real sensitive.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"Medication. Medication. Medication.

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, which can result from a trigger, or for no discernible reason.

The brain is an organ like every other and sometimes needs medical intervention to recover.

Go to your GP, darling.

Xxxx

Medication is not always the answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stick your face in a box of kittens

Why make a joke about someone's misery and despair?

Real sensitive."

I dunno as a depressive that actually sounds like a great way to cheer up.

Anyone have a box of kittens available

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Medication. Medication. Medication.

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, which can result from a trigger, or for no discernible reason.

The brain is an organ like every other and sometimes needs medical intervention to recover.

Go to your GP, darling.

Xxxx

Medication is not always the answer."

Gps don't just give medication they can refer you for cognitive behavioural therapy, or talk therapy or an appointment with a psychiatrist or councilor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Since the op is gone can't comment exactly but do remember that medication gets worse before it gets better.

In a marina you'll find antidepressants come with a big black box warning that they do significantly increase the risk of suicide so make sure you have support before starting a course of anti depressants

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Try to get out into the country and enjoy the fresh air

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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago

London / Herts

Speaking as someone who suffered from depression for over a year, I hope some of my advice will be helpful to anyone who believes they're experiencing what Churchill called "the black dog".

In my experience, depression is fought and defeated with three activities. Exercise to encourage endorphin release, reaching out to those close to you for support, and the reaching of goals, no matter how small.

I started going to the gym because of my depression. I reached out to my friends, and they helped support me through days I was feeling particularly bad. And I'd always try to accomplish something with my day, no matter small, despite the overwhelming urge to lie in bed, or sit in front of TV, or drink.

Over time, the depressive feelings just fade away. I am often scared they'll come back, but it's just a matter of keeping yourself active.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stick your face in a box of kittens

Why make a joke about someone's misery and despair?

Real sensitive.

I dunno as a depressive that actually sounds like a great way to cheer up.

Anyone have a box of kittens available "

But kittens are bitey and scratchy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stick your face in a box of kittens

Why make a joke about someone's misery and despair?

Real sensitive.

I dunno as a depressive that actually sounds like a great way to cheer up.

Anyone have a box of kittens available

But kittens are bitey and scratchy

Nah they're cute and fluffy they only have tiny claws and teeth not enough to get though my callused dragon hide :p

I used to fight with my exs cat wearing my old motorcycle gloves ^_^

Not in a mean way he loved it especially on cat nip lol but least this way I didn't get hurt lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

first thing to know is your depression wont last. It will pass perhaps quicker than you imagine.Its just another mood and all moods pass. happy sad depressed or elated are all temporary. Its difficult to sit patiently with your self and with depression and let it be what it is. Theres a tendency to want to fight it, for it to go away or change which can be very tiring. Depressive thoughts can be scary and worrying. But they are only thoughts and you do not have to act on any of them. thoughts come and go. and thoughts are not "you". So in the midst of all the chaos just be kind to your self and realise all this will pass in time. go to bed, sleep. go for a walk,take a candle lit bath, talk to a friend you trust. Draw or paint how you feel write it down. There are many things you can do. You could talk to a doctor or call A&E thats what they are there for. sometimes people can feel reborn after a depression and decide to live a completely different life. You are a beautiful amazing creature remember that.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"Medication. Medication. Medication.

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, which can result from a trigger, or for no discernible reason.

The brain is an organ like every other and sometimes needs medical intervention to recover.

Go to your GP, darling.

Xxxx

Medication is not always the answer.

Gps don't just give medication they can refer you for cognitive behavioural therapy, or talk therapy or an appointment with a psychiatrist or councilor. "

I know. I wanted to avoid medication, and was provided with the alternatives.

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By *o30Woman
over a year ago

Lincoln

"Since the op is gone can't comment exactly but do remember that medication gets worse before it gets better.

Plus coming off them can be difficult, been off mine for 2wks & I've had some really s**ty days since. Back on them soon according to gp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another depressed,anxiety filled,panic filled bag of nerves here and the kitten comment made me smile.

Regarding View's comment,having something to take your mind off being ill can help,depending how physically ill you feel too and how much noise you can stand. See your doctor,he/she will advise you. You may be advised to go for counselling or given medication. I have had both and still take my medication as I do have a chemical imbalance. Life stresses can cause depression that can be helped by you seeking help. Don't feel bad,it's a real illness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Since the op is gone can't comment exactly but do remember that medication gets worse before it gets better.

Plus coming off them can be difficult, been off mine for 2wks & I've had some really s**ty days since. Back on them soon according to gp

Why have you gone cold turkey and the being put back on them???

It should be a staged reduction in dose over the course of a few months not a "fuck it let's stop them and stick you back on if bad things happen".

Your go should have written you a prescription for a lower dosage tablet so you can managed the reduction easily and gradually.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stick your face in a box of kittens

Why make a joke about someone's misery and despair?

Real sensitive.

I dunno as a depressive that actually sounds like a great way to cheer up.

Anyone have a box of kittens available

But kittens are bitey and scratchy

Nah they're cute and fluffy they only have tiny claws and teeth not enough to get though my callused dragon hide :p

I used to fight with my exs cat wearing my old motorcycle gloves ^_^

Not in a mean way he loved it especially on cat nip lol but least this way I didn't get hurt lol"

You're weird

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stick your face in a box of kittens

Why make a joke about someone's misery and despair?

Real sensitive.

I dunno as a depressive that actually sounds like a great way to cheer up.

Anyone have a box of kittens available

But kittens are bitey and scratchy

Nah they're cute and fluffy they only have tiny claws and teeth not enough to get though my callused dragon hide :p

I used to fight with my exs cat wearing my old motorcycle gloves ^_^

Not in a mean way he loved it especially on cat nip lol but least this way I didn't get hurt lol

You're weird

This is true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stick your face in a box of kittens

Why make a joke about someone's misery and despair?

Real sensitive.

I dunno as a depressive that actually sounds like a great way to cheer up.

Anyone have a box of kittens available

But kittens are bitey and scratchy

Nah they're cute and fluffy they only have tiny claws and teeth not enough to get though my callused dragon hide :p

I used to fight with my exs cat wearing my old motorcycle gloves ^_^

Not in a mean way he loved it especially on cat nip lol but least this way I didn't get hurt lol

You're weird

This is true

It's a compliment, dafthead

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By *o30Woman
over a year ago

Lincoln

"Since the op is gone can't comment exactly but do remember that medication gets worse before it gets better.

Plus coming off them can be difficult, been off mine for 2wks & I've had some really s**ty days since. Back on them soon according to gp

Why have you gone cold turkey and the being put back on them???

It should be a staged reduction in dose over the course of a few months not a "fuck it let's stop them and stick you back on if bad things happen".

Your go should have written you a prescription for a lower dosage tablet so you can managed the reduction easily and gradually."
I'm on the lowest dose but begin off them hasn't help me so he's putting me back on them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depression is very very hard for anyone to understand when you are going through it, people try but it's an individual thing, my only advise would be is don't drink as it enhances your mood, ie if you feel positive you'll feel more positive however if you feel low and depressed it will increase your depression, seek advice from your doctor, see a councillor, take tablets that take a few weeks to work, and be strong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Medication. Medication. Medication.

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, which can result from a trigger, or for no discernible reason.

The brain is an organ like every other and sometimes needs medical intervention to recover.

Go to your GP, darling.

Xxxx

Some antidepressants have been recently proven to turn people with relatively mild disorders, psychotic!!

Go to a doctor first then get an appointment to see a counselor/ psychotherapist & take it from there, OP - but always ask about side effects of whatever medication.

Hopefully counseling is all you'll ever need. Good luck to you & keep your family & friends close to you! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some antidepressants have been recently proven to turn people with relatively mild disorders, psychotic!!

Source?

Because that would have them pulled from the shelves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Speaking as someone who suffered from depression for over a year, I hope some of my advice will be helpful to anyone who believes they're experiencing what Churchill called "the black dog".

Over time, the depressive feelings just fade away. I am often scared they'll come back, but it's just a matter of keeping yourself active. "

Wise words.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some antidepressants have been recently proven to turn people with relatively mild disorders, psychotic!!

Source?

Because that would have them pulled from the shelves "

TV news - & yes, some have been.

Some drugs were shown to be a help to some but severe negative to others.

& some extremely addictive yet all 'approved' by medical councils at some stage!

Drugs are the last resort imho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP...despite removing your posts, I do hope you trawl the thread and see that there is a wealth of experience and support and good feelings on here.

However you choose to move forward, and whatever help you seek at least you have identified that you are suffering and need help.

I for one wish you a full recovery..it will not be quick, and at times it may seem bleak. But it will be ok in the end..if its not ok, its not the end.

Chin up

Sending mental hugs and good wishes

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thanks everyone, I really mean that and those that PM. I haven't answered messages but today has been a black dog day and I'll get passed it I know. I have started low dose antidepressants just to help see the wood for the trees in the short term. I am very aware of the issues in my life that are to the burden and unfortunately they are things that can't be changed but they way I deal with them will help me.

Thanks again.

Sam x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Children give us purpose and joy and will need our help for years to come though it's another matter if the listen

I have had dark days in the past and you come through them just remember your not alone and people will listen if you want a rant or a shoulder to cry on and ofcourse a big hug sorts the woes out

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By *o30Woman
over a year ago

Lincoln

"Thanks everyone, I really mean that and those that PM. I haven't answered messages but today has been a black dog day and I'll get passed it I know. I have started low dose antidepressants just to help see the wood for the trees in the short term. I am very aware of the issues in my life that are to the burden and unfortunately they are things that can't be changed but they way I deal with them will help me.

Thanks again.

Sam x "
sending big hugs. Hopefully we'll all get there, just takes time. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are fewer things harder or more destructive than depression, stay strong and let other people help. It's not weakness to acknowledge that you're struggling. There are no good or bad places to say you need help

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

One of the hardest things about depression is feeling a burden to those that love and care for you. When mine bites I feel guilty as well as depressed.

One of things that I found difficult to do but helped in the end was to just keep a record of the good moments in each day. Sometimes it was just, I got up before 2pm today, and other times it was remembering that I laughed at something one of the kids did. At the end of each week I would read the good moments, when I was able to.

For me the drugs work. They help me get some perspective and keep things feeling even. I'm not on any now but I have no hesitation about going back on them if I need to.

I hope you find some good moments to lighten the load.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One of the hardest things about depression is feeling a burden to those that love and care for you. When mine bites I feel guilty as well as depressed.

For me the drugs work. They help me get some perspective and keep things feeling even. I'm not on any now but I have no hesitation about going back on them if I need to.

I hope you find some good moments to lighten the load.

More wise words.

I also suffered. Still do occasionally.

6 months off work, medication, weekly counselling and daily support through those 6 months from our local Cris team were a huge help.

It's not a weekness to recognise that you're in need of some help, it's a strength and shows you're in a better place than you feel you are.

Keep going OP, tiny steps.

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By *anxfrankMan
over a year ago

isle of man

Having suffered it myself also it's bloody horrible and very cruel, my go recommended going out for a walk some where quiet and tranquil really just to get away from it all , and tbh it really worked asthe walking produces happy endorfines.

Please don't suffer it alone x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some antidepressants have been recently proven to turn people with relatively mild disorders, psychotic!!

Source?

Because that would have them pulled from the shelves

TV news - & yes, some have been.

Some drugs were shown to be a help to some but severe negative to others.

& some extremely addictive yet all 'approved' by medical councils at some stage!

Drugs are the last resort imho."

Can't find any credible info on this got a name?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One of the hardest things about depression is feeling a burden to those that love and care for you. When mine bites I feel guilty as well as depressed.

For me the drugs work. They help me get some perspective and keep things feeling even. I'm not on any now but I have no hesitation about going back on them if I need to.

I hope you find some good moments to lighten the load.

More wise words.

I also suffered. Still do occasionally.

6 months off work, medication, weekly counselling and daily support through those 6 months from our local Cris team were a huge help.

It's not a weekness to recognise that you're in need of some help, it's a strength and shows you're in a better place than you feel you are.

Keep going OP, tiny steps."

The crisis teams are amazing arnt they.

Sadly in most areas they're so underfunded they can barely provide a minimum service.

They're a service that's easy to cut as no one likes to think he'll need MH treatment so they're happy for the NHS to cut it not realising 30% of people will need it at some point.

We still have this mentality that MH issues are some how shameful something that should be swept under the rug and not disscussed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Speaking as someone who suffered from depression for over a year, I hope some of my advice will be helpful to anyone who believes they're experiencing what Churchill called "the black dog".

Over time, the depressive feelings just fade away. I am often scared they'll come back, but it's just a matter of keeping yourself active.

Wise words. "

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By *appyguy17Man
over a year ago

walthamstow

I don't suffer from depression but two people in my family do.....and it seems the main thing is you have to admit you have it first...and that can be a big relief.....

Doing positive things to help others can be very good for your self esteem...

So many people suffer from depression,,but the good thing is it is out in the open now and there is not the stigma attached to it that there used to be......so try to keep positive and if you know a friend that has it...confide in them !!!and you'll feel much better..x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"first thing to know is your depression wont last. It will pass perhaps quicker than you imagine.Its just another mood and all moods pass. happy sad depressed or elated are all temporary. Its difficult to sit patiently with your self and with depression and let it be what it is. Theres a tendency to want to fight it, for it to go away or change which can be very tiring. Depressive thoughts can be scary and worrying. But they are only thoughts and you do not have to act on any of them. thoughts come and go. and thoughts are not "you". So in the midst of all the chaos just be kind to your self and realise all this will pass in time. go to bed, sleep. go for a walk,take a candle lit bath, talk to a friend you trust. Draw or paint how you feel write it down. There are many things you can do. You could talk to a doctor or call A&E thats what they are there for. sometimes people can feel reborn after a depression and decide to live a completely different life. You are a beautiful amazing creature remember that."

Fantastic advice, all of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had a long post up but like yourself didn't want my private life up

3 little words

" YOUR NOT ALONE "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have any more advice as it's all here already. I just wanted to give you a virtual hug of camaraderie and let you know that I know this pain and long to be free of it. It sucks, and you have my warmest wishes. Much love to you.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The old fashioned way to solve deprsession xxx Drink if only doctors could give you a prescription for your local boozer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Had a long post up but like yourself didn't want my private life up

3 little words

" YOUR NOT ALONE " "

I know it's meant well bit is this maddening to anyone else?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Had a long post up but like yourself didn't want my private life up

3 little words

" YOUR NOT ALONE " "

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By *onbons_xxMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"I don't have any more advice as it's all here already. I just wanted to give you a virtual hug of camaraderie and let you know that I know this pain and long to be free of it. It sucks, and you have my warmest wishes. Much love to you.x"

This sums up what I feel I can offer here.

. The stats on this area are shocking and cliche as it may be, the first one is the most important but hardest.

Best of luck to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Had a long post up but like yourself didn't want my private life up

3 little words

" YOUR NOT ALONE "

I know it's meant well bit is this maddening to anyone else?

Not the time, dude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Had a long post up but like yourself didn't want my private life up

3 little words

" YOUR NOT ALONE "

I know it's meant well bit is this maddening to anyone else?

Not the time, dude."

Oh come on the fact it's 4 words wad the basis of an entire season of Dr who

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Had a long post up but like yourself didn't want my private life up

3 little words

" YOUR NOT ALONE "

I know it's meant well bit is this maddening to anyone else?

When you are going through depression you feel very lonely and that no one else can possibly understand what you are going through, but this thread proves that they do indeed understand, and you aren't an oddity, so I can appreciate the statement "you are not alone". Thankfully, I had a very understanding doctor and came through it feeling so much better and a much more compassionate person.

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Medication. Medication. Medication.

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, which can result from a trigger, or for no discernible reason.

The brain is an organ like every other and sometimes needs medical intervention to recover.

Go to your GP, darling.

Xxxx

Medication is not always the answer."

Agree, it made me worse almost zombie like

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thank you so much, each and every one of you. Yesterday was a particularly bad day and your support really kept me going.

This is a battle I face once before and I know eexactly what I need to do but as many of you understand you sometimes have to hot rock bottom before starting to climb back up.

Wishing you all well on your journey too xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fantastic advice, all of it

I realise that this is meant well but this simply isn't how depressed people work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Had a long post up but like yourself didn't want my private life up

3 little words

" YOUR NOT ALONE "

I know it's meant well bit is this maddening to anyone else?

I mean you are not alone is 4 words not 3...

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The old fashioned way to solve deprsession xxx Drink if only doctors could give you a prescription for your local boozer"

Booze is the world's worst cure for depression.

Temporary high and relief.

Alcohol is in itself a depressant.

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over a year ago

"One of the hardest things about depression is feeling a burden to those that love and care for you. When mine bites I feel guilty as well as depressed.

For me the drugs work. They help me get some perspective and keep things feeling even. I'm not on any now but I have no hesitation about going back on them if I need to.

I hope you find some good moments to lighten the load.

More wise words.

I also suffered. Still do occasionally.

6 months off work, medication, weekly counselling and daily support through those 6 months from our local Cris team were a huge help.

It's not a weekness to recognise that you're in need of some help, it's a strength and shows you're in a better place than you feel you are.

Keep going OP, tiny steps.

The crisis teams are amazing arnt they.

Sadly in most areas they're so underfunded they can barely provide a minimum service.

They're a service that's easy to cut as no one likes to think he'll need MH treatment so they're happy for the NHS to cut it not realising 30% of people will need it at some point.

We still have this mentality that MH issues are some how shameful something that should be swept under the rug and not disscussed"

I can't thank my local Cris team enough.

A very underrated group of people.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

Take regular exercise, that can help.

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