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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH " Well you didn't have to have the convo with her. You could have steered it. It's all a learning curve Now ...while we're on the subject of cancer.. C'mere. | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH Well you didn't have to have the convo with her. You could have steered it. It's all a learning curve Now ...while we're on the subject of cancer.. C'mere." Don't you ever feel the need to politely correct/educate people? It horrifies me they believe this nonsense | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH " you said it..you cant handle conversations at this level.... why not?..what she says is true... you cant expect people to just grin inanely and talk about sex or you all the time.. my advice is see each person as a chance to expand your own horizons...look up and research their interests, not for them, for yourself..if you dont want connections with people..go to clubs or organised events where the women are just there for you to fuck/ wank over.etc etc and leave...for many of us women, attraction starts in the mind..we express to find commonality and connection..connection leads to attraction....we want someone to talk and talk to on and between meets, its not just a bodily function for many... | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH " I'm left wodering which of the two options applies to you?  | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH Well you didn't have to have the convo with her. You could have steered it. It's all a learning curve Now ...while we're on the subject of cancer.. C'mere. Don't you ever feel the need to politely correct/educate people? It horrifies me they believe this nonsense" it horrifies me you dont  | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH Well you didn't have to have the convo with her. You could have steered it. It's all a learning curve Now ...while we're on the subject of cancer.. C'mere. Don't you ever feel the need to politely correct/educate people? It horrifies me they believe this nonsense" No. I never feel the need to correct or educate. It's great that you care and want to protect in your own way but lectures never work for me. Sometimes talking things through helps others. To be VERY frank tho... if a bloke on here started talking about deep problems and i didn't know him i'd back right off. | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH you said it..you cant handle conversations at this level.... why not?..what she says is true... you cant expect people to just grin inanely and talk about sex or you all the time.. my advice is see each person as a chance to expand your own horizons...look up and research their interests, not for them, for yourself..if you dont want connections with people..go to clubs or organised events where the women are just there for you to fuck/ wank over.etc etc and leave...for many of us women, attraction starts in the mind..we express to find commonality and connection..connection leads to attraction....we want someone to talk and talk to on and between meets, its not just a bodily function for many..." Could you explain how what she said is true? | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH you said it..you cant handle conversations at this level.... why not?..what she says is true... you cant expect people to just grin inanely and talk about sex or you all the time.. my advice is see each person as a chance to expand your own horizons...look up and research their interests, not for them, for yourself..if you dont want connections with people..go to clubs or organised events where the women are just there for you to fuck/ wank over.etc etc and leave...for many of us women, attraction starts in the mind..we express to find commonality and connection..connection leads to attraction....we want someone to talk and talk to on and between meets, its not just a bodily function for many..." I think you have mis-interpreted and reached some sort of conclusion I think women have one purpose only. My issue is not with the discussion but , put politely, the nonsense being spouted. I thoroughly enjoy a good debate as previous forum posts will make clear. | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH Well you didn't have to have the convo with her. You could have steered it. It's all a learning curve Now ...while we're on the subject of cancer.. C'mere. Don't you ever feel the need to politely correct/educate people? It horrifies me they believe this nonsense No. I never feel the need to correct or educate. It's great that you care and want to protect in your own way but lectures never work for me. Sometimes talking things through helps others. To be VERY frank tho... if a bloke on here started talking about deep problems and i didn't know him i'd back right off. " For sake of clarity it wasn't on here | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH " I think to say she isn't brainy might be pushing it a bit. She might have just been spoon fed differing opinions to your own and doesn't have the time or the gumption to investigate for herself?! Or perhaps the subject wasn't her specialism. On the note of cancer and money it's true that in some parts of the world it's a real money maker. And yes, the government do make money through it from the taxes the drug manufacturers make, however that may not negate what they spend on it. | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH you said it..you cant handle conversations at this level.... why not?..what she says is true... you cant expect people to just grin inanely and talk about sex or you all the time.. my advice is see each person as a chance to expand your own horizons...look up and research their interests, not for them, for yourself..if you dont want connections with people..go to clubs or organised events where the women are just there for you to fuck/ wank over.etc etc and leave...for many of us women, attraction starts in the mind..we express to find commonality and connection..connection leads to attraction....we want someone to talk and talk to on and between meets, its not just a bodily function for many... Could you explain how what she said is true?" cancer thrives in an acidic environment..turning your Ph level into an alkaline environment, kills cancer cells..fact...the research is out there if you want to look. the pharmaceuticals make big bucks from keeping you on drugs for your 'symptoms' whilst not treating the original condition...fact there are many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo ..fact.. why dont they want you to have these known and proven cures...ask your own questions..but i suggest you follow the money funding pharmas..they are the ones blocking the cures being available...look at the the ones who allow drugs to come onto the market...those who approve them...follow the money youll see it is linked..Fact... the information is out there, in plain saight if you want to see it, use this as a spring board for your own curiosity and dig around a bit to see who controls what....those who cant be bothered to look...you can wander round in your bubble if you want, but dont tell other people who have spent a lifetime in this field of work, or are helping themselves health wise by becoming informed, a load of 'nonsense'..that's just disempowering...say, you don't know, or that's interesting, but its not for me...maybe one day their nonesense may become relevant if a loved one close to home gets sick and you feel powerless to help them and those authorities you trust so much are doing bugger all about it...whatever you choose, be well and be happy x | |||
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"i completely agree with the OP....the amount of disinformation lapped up by morons amazes me....we have more access to information than any previous generation, but some people seem determined to ignore reality and choose to believe utter rubbish....and yes, for me its an instant turn off...and i wouldn't waste my time trying to argue.." 
I agree. And I have been put off by silly things people have said to me (when I knew it was actually believed by them). It is hard to be with someone sexually when I can't take them seriously, and some of the things people say have left me not able to take them seriously. It may be judgmental of me, but I don't really care. I don't feel the need to lecture these people, but I also don't feel the need to shag them 
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH you said it..you cant handle conversations at this level.... why not?..what she says is true... you cant expect people to just grin inanely and talk about sex or you all the time.. my advice is see each person as a chance to expand your own horizons...look up and research their interests, not for them, for yourself..if you dont want connections with people..go to clubs or organised events where the women are just there for you to fuck/ wank over.etc etc and leave...for many of us women, attraction starts in the mind..we express to find commonality and connection..connection leads to attraction....we want someone to talk and talk to on and between meets, its not just a bodily function for many... Could you explain how what she said is true? cancer thrives in an acidic environment..turning your Ph level into an alkaline environment, kills cancer cells..fact...the research is out there if you want to look. the pharmaceuticals make big bucks from keeping you on drugs for your 'symptoms' whilst not treating the original condition...fact there are many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo ..fact.. why dont they want you to have these known and proven cures...ask your own questions..but i suggest you follow the money funding pharmas..they are the ones blocking the cures being available...look at the the ones who allow drugs to come onto the market...those who approve them...follow the money youll see it is linked..Fact... the information is out there, in plain saight if you want to see it, use this as a spring board for your own curiosity and dig around a bit to see who controls what....those who cant be bothered to look...you can wander round in your bubble if you want, but dont tell other people who have spent a lifetime in this field of work, or are helping themselves health wise by becoming informed, a load of 'nonsense'..that's just disempowering...say, you don't know, or that's interesting, but its not for me...maybe one day their nonesense may become relevant if a loved one close to home gets sick and you feel powerless to help them and those authorities you trust so much are doing bugger all about it...whatever you choose, be well and be happy x" wait, what? I caught the acidic part of that and my head actually exploded. The reason for which is such, that potentially means that washing the infected areas with soap can alleviate symptoms, and heavy exercise can exacerbate symptoms | |||
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"cancer thrives in an acidic environment..turning your Ph level into an alkaline environment, kills cancer cells..fact...the research is out there if you want to look. the pharmaceuticals make big bucks from keeping you on drugs for your 'symptoms' whilst not treating the original condition...fact there are many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo ..fact.. why dont they want you to have these known and proven cures...ask your own questions..but i suggest you follow the money funding pharmas..they are the ones blocking the cures being available...look at the the ones who allow drugs to come onto the market...those who approve them...follow the money youll see it is linked..Fact... the information is out there, in plain saight if you want to see it, use this as a spring board for your own curiosity and dig around a bit to see who controls what....those who cant be bothered to look...you can wander round in your bubble if you want, but dont tell other people who have spent a lifetime in this field of work, or are helping themselves health wise by becoming informed, a load of 'nonsense'..that's just disempowering...say, you don't know, or that's interesting, but its not for me...maybe one day their nonesense may become relevant if a loved one close to home gets sick and you feel powerless to help them and those authorities you trust so much are doing bugger all about it...whatever you choose, be well and be happy x" Can you please tell me a few peer reviewed studies that mention these "proven" cures for cancer? I am not interested in anything from the University of Google. I am requesting actual peer reviewed studies (preferably from medical journals) that support what you say above. Because if what you say is true, I would like to know about it. -Courtney | |||
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"I was wondering where this post was going to go from the title. This is not what I expected. However, I think the point is missed OP, all I see is a difference of opinion and a different way of thinking. Just because someone does not have the same ideas as you, does not make them less intelligent. However, you're not going to like this, but it sounds like you were both as inflexible as the other in terms of trying to see each others perspective" I take on board your point and I have no issue with a difference of opinion. We are all entitled to an opinion. I do however take issue with people suggesting that a cure for cancer, which is responsible for so many deaths, is being kept back due to some Government conspiracy. Its complete and utter nonsense. Some people often refer to the saying about regardless of what you have in this world, nothing separate us at death and until such time as cures for diseases such as cancer are found, then such sayings remain so true. You can be so rich yet so poor at the same time. | |||
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"There is no evidence out there that the alkaline diet works. It's a healthy diet but cannot change the ph level of your blood or body only your urine. If somebody shows me evidence from a bone fide scientific body rather than a web page on health I'll concede. It's a great diet. It's not a cancer cure. " If there were evidence it worked to cure cancer nobody would have cancer as they would all be on this diet and cured The fact people are still dying from cancer is proof in itself it does not work? | |||
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"I don't see how not finding a cure for cancer makes them money cancer costs the NHS billions every year I do know that if they did find a cure it would be a long time before the likes of us ever saw it They have treatment for many conditions that's costs to much so they don't use it Spend billions finding a cure they locking it away because they can't afford to mass produce it " I would have thought the costs in establishing cancer using MRI's alone would outweigh the cost of any medicine provided. the amount of power required to power a magnet that can effectively image the inside of a human body would be a lot, especially when you think it would require more than mains wattage, so they'd have to have special feeds from the power companies | |||
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"surely you can have sex with the pretty ones and go out with the ladies with beauty and brains" I wish I could! Cant help what or who I am attracted to I guess | |||
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"surely you can have sex with the pretty ones and go out with the ladies with beauty and brains I wish I could! Cant help what or who I am attracted to I guess" The biggest sexual organ is the brain If they can't stimulate my brain they have no chance with my body I couldn't get turned on by somebody I didn't like no matter now good looking they are Some people just go through the motions for the sake of a shag though | |||
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"There is no evidence out there that the alkaline diet works. It's a healthy diet but cannot change the ph level of your blood or body only your urine. If somebody shows me evidence from a bone fide scientific body rather than a web page on health I'll concede. It's a great diet. It's not a cancer cure. If there were evidence it worked to cure cancer nobody would have cancer as they would all be on this diet and cured The fact people are still dying from cancer is proof in itself it does not work?" Or more to the point, the fact that wealthy, powerful people are dying from cancer is proof in itself there is not some sort of secret cure. Lets face it, you can buy ANYTHING on a black market if you are rich enough. You telling me that something exists and Rich wealthy people are dying still? | |||
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"cancer thrives in an acidic environment..turning your Ph level into an alkaline environment, kills cancer cells..fact...the research is out there if you want to look. the pharmaceuticals make big bucks from keeping you on drugs for your 'symptoms' whilst not treating the original condition...fact there are many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo ..fact.. why dont they want you to have these known and proven cures...ask your own questions..but i suggest you follow the money funding pharmas..they are the ones blocking the cures being available...look at the the ones who allow drugs to come onto the market...those who approve them...follow the money youll see it is linked..Fact... the information is out there, in plain saight if you want to see it, use this as a spring board for your own curiosity and dig around a bit to see who controls what....those who cant be bothered to look...you can wander round in your bubble if you want, but dont tell other people who have spent a lifetime in this field of work, or are helping themselves health wise by becoming informed, a load of 'nonsense'..that's just disempowering...say, you don't know, or that's interesting, but its not for me...maybe one day their nonesense may become relevant if a loved one close to home gets sick and you feel powerless to help them and those authorities you trust so much are doing bugger all about it...whatever you choose, be well and be happy x Can you please tell me a few peer reviewed studies that mention these "proven" cures for cancer? I am not interested in anything from the University of Google. I am requesting actual peer reviewed studies (preferably from medical journals) that support what you say above. Because if what you say is true, I would like to know about it. -Courtney" Oh, you don't really need to read these studies do you? When someone makes a statement on here and puts '-Fact' after it, it has to be true  | |||
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"I was wondering where this post was going to go from the title. This is not what I expected. However, I think the point is missed OP, all I see is a difference of opinion and a different way of thinking. Just because someone does not have the same ideas as you, does not make them less intelligent. However, you're not going to like this, but it sounds like you were both as inflexible as the other in terms of trying to see each others perspective I take on board your point and I have no issue with a difference of opinion. We are all entitled to an opinion. I do however take issue with people suggesting that a cure for cancer, which is responsible for so many deaths, is being kept back due to some Government conspiracy. Its complete and utter nonsense. Some people often refer to the saying about regardless of what you have in this world, nothing separate us at death and until such time as cures for diseases such as cancer are found, then such sayings remain so true. You can be so rich yet so poor at the same time. " I am completely in the dark on conspiracy theories. If a cure exists and no-one has been told, someone will eventually find it and share it, if not, someone may eventually find it and possibly share it. Out of my control. The story of the buddha is a good one for that. He was a prince, when he was born, the king had been told by a priest, "your son will be a holy man, or a great king". The king decided to shelter the prince from the world and try to encourage him to be a king. when the prince was older, he snuck out with his chaperone to see the city as it was. I'll cut the sermon short, when the king found out and confronted the prince, the prince said he was leaving to become a priest, the king promised anything to make him stay, the prince replied by asking if the king could legitimately promise to prevent him growing old, growing sick, or dying, when the king could not legitimately promise these things, he let his son go and become a priest. | |||
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"cancer thrives in an acidic environment..turning your Ph level into an alkaline environment, kills cancer cells..fact...the research is out there if you want to look. the pharmaceuticals make big bucks from keeping you on drugs for your 'symptoms' whilst not treating the original condition...fact there are many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo ..fact.. why dont they want you to have these known and proven cures...ask your own questions..but i suggest you follow the money funding pharmas..they are the ones blocking the cures being available...look at the the ones who allow drugs to come onto the market...those who approve them...follow the money youll see it is linked..Fact... the information is out there, in plain saight if you want to see it, use this as a spring board for your own curiosity and dig around a bit to see who controls what....those who cant be bothered to look...you can wander round in your bubble if you want, but dont tell other people who have spent a lifetime in this field of work, or are helping themselves health wise by becoming informed, a load of 'nonsense'..that's just disempowering...say, you don't know, or that's interesting, but its not for me...maybe one day their nonesense may become relevant if a loved one close to home gets sick and you feel powerless to help them and those authorities you trust so much are doing bugger all about it...whatever you choose, be well and be happy x Can you please tell me a few peer reviewed studies that mention these "proven" cures for cancer? I am not interested in anything from the University of Google. I am requesting actual peer reviewed studies (preferably from medical journals) that support what you say above. Because if what you say is true, I would like to know about it. -Courtney Oh, you don't really need to read these studies do you? When someone makes a statement on here and puts '-Fact' after it, it has to be true "Fact  | |||
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"There is no evidence out there that the alkaline diet works. It's a healthy diet but cannot change the ph level of your blood or body only your urine. If somebody shows me evidence from a bone fide scientific body rather than a web page on health I'll concede. It's a great diet. It's not a cancer cure. If there were evidence it worked to cure cancer nobody would have cancer as they would all be on this diet and cured The fact people are still dying from cancer is proof in itself it does not work?" My thoughts exactly. Why have doctors and the N.H.S when you could do it with quinoa. | |||
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH you said it..you cant handle conversations at this level.... why not?..what she says is true... you cant expect people to just grin inanely and talk about sex or you all the time.. my advice is see each person as a chance to expand your own horizons...look up and research their interests, not for them, for yourself..if you dont want connections with people..go to clubs or organised events where the women are just there for you to fuck/ wank over.etc etc and leave...for many of us women, attraction starts in the mind..we express to find commonality and connection..connection leads to attraction....we want someone to talk and talk to on and between meets, its not just a bodily function for many..." | |||
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"surely you can have sex with the pretty ones and go out with the ladies with beauty and brains I wish I could! Cant help what or who I am attracted to I guess The biggest sexual organ is the brain If they can't stimulate my brain they have no chance with my body I couldn't get turned on by somebody I didn't like no matter now good looking they are Some people just go through the motions for the sake of a shag though " But that is because you are seeing from an intelligent point of view. Perhaps you have beauty and brains so being a keeper. I know many attractive women who have nothing between their ears to stimulate. They lose their attractiveness as you get to know them. | |||
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"surely you can have sex with the pretty ones and go out with the ladies with beauty and brains I wish I could! Cant help what or who I am attracted to I guess The biggest sexual organ is the brain If they can't stimulate my brain they have no chance with my body I couldn't get turned on by somebody I didn't like no matter now good looking they are Some people just go through the motions for the sake of a shag though But that is because you are seeing from an intelligent point of view. Perhaps you have beauty and brains so being a keeper. I know many attractive women who have nothing between their ears to stimulate. They lose their attractiveness as you get to know them." Beautie I don't have I can assure you of that I dazzle people with my whit and charm then get them pissed and hide they keys | |||
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"surely you can have sex with the pretty ones and go out with the ladies with beauty and brains I wish I could! Cant help what or who I am attracted to I guess The biggest sexual organ is the brain If they can't stimulate my brain they have no chance with my body I couldn't get turned on by somebody I didn't like no matter now good looking they are Some people just go through the motions for the sake of a shag though But that is because you are seeing from an intelligent point of view. Perhaps you have beauty and brains so being a keeper. I know many attractive women who have nothing between their ears to stimulate. They lose their attractiveness as you get to know them. Beautie I don't have I can assure you of that I dazzle people with my whit and charm then get them pissed and hide they keys "Good tactic i do the same. God what if we meet shit nobody's going home | |||
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"cancer thrives in an acidic environment..turning your Ph level into an alkaline environment, kills cancer cells..fact...the research is out there if you want to look. the pharmaceuticals make big bucks from keeping you on drugs for your 'symptoms' whilst not treating the original condition...fact there are many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo ..fact.. why dont they want you to have these known and proven cures...ask your own questions..but i suggest you follow the money funding pharmas..they are the ones blocking the cures being available...look at the the ones who allow drugs to come onto the market...those who approve them...follow the money youll see it is linked..Fact... the information is out there, in plain saight if you want to see it, use this as a spring board for your own curiosity and dig around a bit to see who controls what....those who cant be bothered to look...you can wander round in your bubble if you want, but dont tell other people who have spent a lifetime in this field of work, or are helping themselves health wise by becoming informed, a load of 'nonsense'..that's just disempowering...say, you don't know, or that's interesting, but its not for me...maybe one day their nonesense may become relevant if a loved one close to home gets sick and you feel powerless to help them and those authorities you trust so much are doing bugger all about it...whatever you choose, be well and be happy x Can you please tell me a few peer reviewed studies that mention these "proven" cures for cancer? I am not interested in anything from the University of Google. I am requesting actual peer reviewed studies (preferably from medical journals) that support what you say above. Because if what you say is true, I would like to know about it. -Courtney Oh, you don't really need to read these studies do you? When someone makes a statement on here and puts '-Fact' after it, it has to be true
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"I had to share this somewhere as my head is starting to hurt. Chatting to a girl over whatsapp etc. She mentioning doing an alkaline diet to 'rid her body of cancer'. Pointed out the obvious that at best you can mitigate the risks but not avoid the same completely and conversation moved on to cancer generally. Next few statements were to the effect that the Government don't care and do not want to find a cure since cancer makes them too much money. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with this but I pointed out the passing of Steve Jobs who was not only wealthy but also incredibly innovative. This was met by a response that 'he was under the Government'. Since realised I cannot do this. Whilst I know attraction goes way beyond looks, I simply cannot deal with conversations at this level. At this point I don't see how anyone can go out with someone purely for their looks. It would kill me. ARRGHGH Well you didn't have to have the convo with her. You could have steered it. It's all a learning curve Now ...while we're on the subject of cancer.. C'mere. Don't you ever feel the need to politely correct/educate people? It horrifies me they believe this nonsense" Maybe just maybe people think that about sheeple | |||
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"Oh it's the government who might profit from this (likely), and the pharma companies that the government choose to use for their drugs and testing of drugs. Getting it yet? You scratch my back and i'll scratch yours is how it works." Nope | |||
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"You may not agree with her but she does have an opinion, someone else she chats to may share that opinion. You just don't ha e the same views on this subject. You may or may not agree with her views on other stuff. " | |||
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"Oh it's the government who might profit from this (likely), and the pharma companies that the government choose to use for their drugs and testing of drugs. Getting it yet? You scratch my back and i'll scratch yours is how it works. Nope" You don't get that people do favours for others for personal gain? | |||
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"Oh it's the government who might profit from this (likely), and the pharma companies that the government choose to use for their drugs and testing of drugs. Getting it yet? You scratch my back and i'll scratch yours is how it works. Nope You don't get that people do favours for others for personal gain?" Not in the context of finding a cure for and treating cancer no. Or as has been suggested deliberately holding back or hiding a cure for cancer | |||
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"cancer thrives in an acidic environment..turning your Ph level into an alkaline environment, kills cancer cells..fact...the research is out there if you want to look. the pharmaceuticals make big bucks from keeping you on drugs for your 'symptoms' whilst not treating the original condition...fact there are many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo ..fact.. why dont they want you to have these known and proven cures...ask your own questions..but i suggest you follow the money funding pharmas..they are the ones blocking the cures being available...look at the the ones who allow drugs to come onto the market...those who approve them...follow the money youll see it is linked..Fact... the information is out there, in plain saight if you want to see it, use this as a spring board for your own curiosity and dig around a bit to see who controls what....those who cant be bothered to look...you can wander round in your bubble if you want, but dont tell other people who have spent a lifetime in this field of work, or are helping themselves health wise by becoming informed, a load of 'nonsense'..that's just disempowering...say, you don't know, or that's interesting, but its not for me...maybe one day their nonesense may become relevant if a loved one close to home gets sick and you feel powerless to help them and those authorities you trust so much are doing bugger all about it...whatever you choose, be well and be happy x Can you please tell me a few peer reviewed studies that mention these "proven" cures for cancer? I am not interested in anything from the University of Google. I am requesting actual peer reviewed studies (preferably from medical journals) that support what you say above. Because if what you say is true, I would like to know about it. -Courtney Oh, you don't really need to read these studies do you? When someone makes a statement on here and puts '-Fact' after it, it has to be true "i wont go into asserting myself on here, however i have worked in the holistic field for over 20 years and my clients werent complaining about my knowledge..im sure i will take a call from one of you, if your loved one becomes ill and the doctors say they cant do anything about it..you may think differently then...discussion closed.. be well and be happy x | |||
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"cancer thrives in an acidic environment..turning your Ph level into an alkaline environment, kills cancer cells..fact...the research is out there if you want to look. the pharmaceuticals make big bucks from keeping you on drugs for your 'symptoms' whilst not treating the original condition...fact there are many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo ..fact.. why dont they want you to have these known and proven cures...ask your own questions..but i suggest you follow the money funding pharmas..they are the ones blocking the cures being available...look at the the ones who allow drugs to come onto the market...those who approve them...follow the money youll see it is linked..Fact... the information is out there, in plain saight if you want to see it, use this as a spring board for your own curiosity and dig around a bit to see who controls what....those who cant be bothered to look...you can wander round in your bubble if you want, but dont tell other people who have spent a lifetime in this field of work, or are helping themselves health wise by becoming informed, a load of 'nonsense'..that's just disempowering...say, you don't know, or that's interesting, but its not for me...maybe one day their nonesense may become relevant if a loved one close to home gets sick and you feel powerless to help them and those authorities you trust so much are doing bugger all about it...whatever you choose, be well and be happy x Can you please tell me a few peer reviewed studies that mention these "proven" cures for cancer? I am not interested in anything from the University of Google. I am requesting actual peer reviewed studies (preferably from medical journals) that support what you say above. Because if what you say is true, I would like to know about it. -Courtney Oh, you don't really need to read these studies do you? When someone makes a statement on here and puts '-Fact' after it, it has to be true
i wont go into asserting myself on here, however i have worked in the holistic field for over 20 years and my clients werent complaining about my knowledge..im sure i will take a call from one of you, if your loved one becomes ill and the doctors say they cant do anything about it..you may think differently then...discussion closed.. be well and be happy x"For over 20 years free of charge of course unlike the nasty scientists Well done x | |||
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"cancer thrives in an acidic environment..turning your Ph level into an alkaline environment, kills cancer cells..fact...the research is out there if you want to look. the pharmaceuticals make big bucks from keeping you on drugs for your 'symptoms' whilst not treating the original condition...fact there are many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo ..fact.. why dont they want you to have these known and proven cures...ask your own questions..but i suggest you follow the money funding pharmas..they are the ones blocking the cures being available...look at the the ones who allow drugs to come onto the market...those who approve them...follow the money youll see it is linked..Fact... the information is out there, in plain saight if you want to see it, use this as a spring board for your own curiosity and dig around a bit to see who controls what....those who cant be bothered to look...you can wander round in your bubble if you want, but dont tell other people who have spent a lifetime in this field of work, or are helping themselves health wise by becoming informed, a load of 'nonsense'..that's just disempowering...say, you don't know, or that's interesting, but its not for me...maybe one day their nonesense may become relevant if a loved one close to home gets sick and you feel powerless to help them and those authorities you trust so much are doing bugger all about it...whatever you choose, be well and be happy x Can you please tell me a few peer reviewed studies that mention these "proven" cures for cancer? I am not interested in anything from the University of Google. I am requesting actual peer reviewed studies (preferably from medical journals) that support what you say above. Because if what you say is true, I would like to know about it. -Courtney Oh, you don't really need to read these studies do you? When someone makes a statement on here and puts '-Fact' after it, it has to be true
i wont go into asserting myself on here, however i have worked in the holistic field for over 20 years and my clients werent complaining about my knowledge..im sure i will take a call from one of you, if your loved one becomes ill and the doctors say they cant do anything about it..you may think differently then...discussion closed.. be well and be happy x"I would be grateful for evidence of the 'many natural ways to kill off cancer which have been proved to be far more effective than chemo' I'm afraid that just because you are there for someone when the medical experts say there is nothing more can be done proves very little | |||
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"i wont go into asserting myself on here, however i have worked in the holistic field for over 20 years and my clients werent complaining about my knowledge..im sure i will take a call from one of you, if your loved one becomes ill and the doctors say they cant do anything about it..you may think differently then...discussion closed.. be well and be happy x" But you have asserted yourself on here. Your prior posts boast of proven cures to cancer and warn of a conspiracy involving the government and medical pharmaceuticals. It seems like you only became hesitant to assert yourself when evidence was requested, which is par for the course with the holistic field in general. If you don't have peer reviewed articles (and conversations with clients don't count), then I think I will see my doctor if I ever find I have cancer. -Courtney | |||
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"Oh it's the government who might profit from this (likely), and the pharma companies that the government choose to use for their drugs and testing of drugs. Getting it yet? You scratch my back and i'll scratch yours is how it works. Nope You don't get that people do favours for others for personal gain? Not in the context of finding a cure for and treating cancer no. Or as has been suggested deliberately holding back or hiding a cure for cancer" Oh right, yeah sorry i went off track a bit coz there isn't actually a cure for cancer yet but i was meaning that's how MPs work sometimes, they get their wheels greased for favours. | |||
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" a couple of things..for those interested, if not, thats fine too.... http://www.safeaccessnow.org/medical_cannabis_research_what_does_the_evidence_say Cannabis and Cancer People with cancer who must undergo radiation and chemotherapy frequently stop treatments rather than suffer the nausea, pain, and other unpleasant side effects. Years before any state had authorized the medical use of cannabis, a 1991 Harvard Medical School study revealed that nearly half (44%) of U.S. oncologists were recommending cannabis to their patients as a way of mitigating the side effects of cancer treatments.15 In its 1999 review, the Institute of Medicine concluded that cannabis could be a valid alternative for many people living with cancer. Specifically, the IOM notes, “In patients already experiencing severe nausea or vomiting, pills are generally ineffective, because of the difficulty in swallowing or keeping a pill down, and slow onset of the drug effect.”16 Since the release of the IOM report, new research has been published which supports the use of cannabis to curb the debilitating effects of cancer treatment. In 2001, a review of clinical studies conducted in several states during the past two decades revealed that, in 768 individuals with cancer, cannabis was a highly effective anti-emetic in chemotherapy.17 Other studies have concluded that the active components in cannabis produce palliative effects in cancer patients by preventing nausea, vomiting and pain and by stimulating appetite. The tumor-fighting properties of cannabinoids have also been demonstrated in numerous laboratory studies, though not yet in human clinical trials. Researchers have observed that “these compounds have been shown to inhibit the growth of tumor cells in culture and animal models by modulating key cell-signaling pathways. Cannabinoids are usually well tolerated, and do not produce the generalized toxic effects of conventional chemotherapies.”18 Combating Chemotherapy Cannabis is used most often to combat nausea induced by chemotherapy agents and pain caused by various cancers. More than 30 human clinical trials have examined the effects of cannabis or synthetic cannabinoids on nausea, not including several U.S. state trials that took place between 1978 and 1986.19-20 In reviewing this literature, scientists have concluded that, “THC is superior to placebo, and equivalent in effectiveness to other widely-used anti-emetic drugs, in its capacity to reduce the nausea and vomiting caused by some chemotherapy regimens in some cancer patients.”21 A 1998 review by the British House of Lords Science & Technology Select Committee concluded that “cannabinoids are undoubtedly effective as anti-emetic agents in vomiting induced by anti-cancer drugs. Some users of both find cannabis itself more effective.”22 The House of Lords review builds upon data provided in a 1997 inquiry by the British Medical Association that determined cannabis is, in some cases, more effective than Marinol.23 Cancer-fighting Cannabinoids Recent scientific advances in the study of cannabinoid receptors and endocannabinoids have produced exciting new leads in the search for anti-cancer treatments. In the past decade, scores of studies, both in vivo and in vitro, have demonstrated that various cannabinoids have a significant effect fighting cancer cells. To date, studies have shown that cannabinoids arrest many kinds of cancer growths through promotion of apoptosis (programmed cell death) in tumors and by arresting angiogenesis (increased blood vessel production). Cannabinoids have also been shown to halt the proliferation or spread of cancer cells in a wide variety of cancer types. Unlike conventional chemotherapy treatments that work by creating a toxic environment in the body that frequently compromises overall health, cannabinoids have been shown to selectively target tumor cells. Cannabinoids and Tumor Reduction The direct anti-tumor and anti-proliferation activity of cannabinoids, specifically CB1 and CB2 agonists, has now been demonstrated in dozens of studies across a range of cancer types, including brain (gliomas), breast, liver, leukemic, melanoma, phaeochromocytoma, cervical, pituitary, prostate and bowel.24-40 The anti-tumor activity has led in laboratory animals and in-vitro human tissues to regression of tumors, reductions in vascularisation (blood supply) and metastases (secondary tumors), as well as the direct destruction of cancer cells (apoptosis).41-45 A 2009 review of recent studies on the role of cannabinoids and cannabinoid receptors in the treatment of breast cancer notes that research on the complex interactions of endogenous cannabinoids and receptors is leading to greater scientific understanding of the basic mechanisms by which cancers develop.46 Cannabinoids have been shown to inhibit tumor growth in laboratory animals in multiple studies.47-52 In one study, injections of synthetic THC eradicated malignant brain tumors in one-third of treated rats, and prolonged life in another third by as long as six weeks.53 Other research on pituitary cancers suggests that cannabinoids may be the key to regulating human pituitary hormone secretion.54-57 Research published in 2009 found that the non-psychoactive cannabinoid cannabidiol (CBD) inhibits the invasion of both human cervical cancer and human lung cancer cells. By manipulating cannabidiol's up-regulation of a tissue inhibitor, researchers may have revealed the mechanism of CBD's tumor-fighting effect. A further in vivo study demonstrated “a significant inhibition” of lung cancer metastasis in mice treated with CBD.58 The mechanism of the anti-cancer activity of CBD and other cannabinoids has also been repeatedly demonstrated with breast cancers.59-63 Scientists have also demonstrated the anti-tumor effects of the cannabinoid THC on cholangiocarcinoma cells, an often-fatal type of cancer that attacks the liver's bile ducts. A 2009 study found that “THC inhibited cell proliferation, migration and invasion, and induced cell apoptosis.” At low levels, THC reduced the migration and invasion of cancer cells, while at high concentrations, THC triggered cell-death in tumors. In short, THC reduced the activity and number of cancer cells. 64 This dose-dependent action of cannabinoids on tumors has also been demonstrated in animal studies. Research on cannabinoids and gliomas, a type of aggressive brain cancer for which there is no cure, holds promise for future treatments for this disease. A study that examined both animal and human glioblastoma multiforme (GBM) tumors, the most common and aggressive form of brain cancer, describes how cannabinoids controlled glioma growth by regulating the blood vessels that supply the tumors.65 In another study, researchers demonstrated that the administration of the non-psychoactive cannabinoid cannabidiol (CBD) significantly inhibited the growth of subcutaneously implanted U87 human glioma cells in mice. The authors of the study noted that “CBD was able to produce a significant antitumor activity both in vitro and in vivo, thus suggesting a possible application of CBD as an antineoplastic agent.66 The targeted effects of cannabinoids on GBM were further demonstrated in 2005 by researchers who showed that the cannabinoid THC both selectively inhibited the proliferation of malignant cells and induced them to die off, while leaving healthy cells unaffected.67 While CBD and THC have each been demonstrated to have tumor-fighting properties in isolation, research published in 2010 shows that they work better in combination, as CBD enhances the inhibitory effects of THC on GBM cell proliferation and survival.68 Similarly, researchers reported in 2010 that the way cannabinoid and cannabinoid-like receptors in brain cells “regulate these cells' differentiation, functions and viability” suggests cannabinoids and other drugs that target cannabinoid receptors can “manage neuroinflammation and eradicate malignant astrocytomas,” a type of glial cancer.69 These recent studies confirm the findings of multiple studies that indicated the effectiveness of cannabinoids in fighting gliomas, some of the deadliest forms of brain cancer.70-77 Indications of the remarkable potential of cannabinoids to fight cancer in humans have also been seen in three recent large-scale population studies. The studies were designed to find correlations between smoking cannabis and cancers of the lung, throat, head and neck. Instead, the researchers discovered that the cancer rates of cannabis smokers were at worst no greater than those who smoked nothing at all or even significantly better.78 One study found that 10-20 years of cannabis use reduced the incidence of head, neck and throat cancers by 62%.79 Researchers suggest that cannabinoids my produce a prophylactic effect against cancer development, as seen in the anti-proliferation effect that has been demonstrated in vitro and in vivo. The Breuss Total Cancer Treatment The book that details the Breuss diet, The Breuss Cancer Cure, has sold over 900,000 copies, been translated into five languages, and claims to have led to over 45,000 testimonials from cured sufferers. Both the book and the diet are still actively being used. The Breuss diet is based on a 42 day fast, but the definition of “fast” used in the Breuss diet actually includes certain types of foods, such as raw fruits and vegetable juices, all taken in liquid form. The theory is that cancer cells can only live on the protein of solid food. Therefore, if you drink nothing but vegetable juice and teas for 42 days the cancerous cells die while the normal cells continue to thrive. Read More http://www.cancertutor.com/breuss/ there are other methods, which i and other collegues have used successfully, depending on the patient, thier condition and the development of the disease. be informed if you want to be..but dont tell me the studies arent there..that people arent doing these treatments now, and have been doing so for years..and that in numerous 'proven' cases they are successful... the families and people we treat will gladly say, thanks for the information...no one expects you to....but please have a little respect and dont call it 'nonsense'..it wasnt nonsense for them. thankyou x" I will say, thank you for trying to answer the question. However, I have to point out a few things here. First, most of the text you include here was copied from the "Americans for Safe Access" webpage, which has a clear interest in getting medical marijuana legalized in the US (something that I am personally in favor of). However, this interest throws their objectivity into serious question. Secondly, they are not what I requested, which was a peer reviewed journal article offering a proven remedy for cancer. They do cite many journal articles, but most of that is just to show that marijuana mitigates the negative side effects of cancer-drugs - or in other words....it is a good pain killer to help those on other medication for cancer get through the pain. Thirdly, the information on the Bruess diet made me laugh a bit. Not trying to be mean, but there was absolutely nothing there of scientific merit. Now, is there something to be said for the use of marijuana to combat cancer? I don't know. But then again, neither do doctors at this point as studies have been few and far between (as indicated by the text you cited above). Does any of this support the theory that the government and big pharma are conspiring to keep us all weakened by cancer? No. Does more research need to take place? No doubt about it. But to say there are "proven" methods that are being kept hidden from the general public is not only false, it is shown to be false by the fact that you got that information on a publicly available site that is being used, at least in the US, to achieve the political goal of legalizing medical marijuana. -Courtney | |||
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