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"What are your views or experiences?" ease up on the doughnuts | |||
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"... he told us who he was he was one of the police men he had got our car reg and tracked us down" And had committed a criminal offence. | |||
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"My most recent experience was to do with my ex and I have to say, I felt they dealt with it brilliantly and I was really impressed. I am sure, as in any profession there are a few bad ones, but for the most part they seem to do a good job. I wonder if it also depends where you live? I imagine, as I am rural, our police deal with different types of crimes to those in the city or am I being naïve in thinking that?" Not at all I'd say your spot on | |||
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"What are your views or experiences?" On the whole I'd say more positive than negative. | |||
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"Despite living in London, I have an ongoing complaint against Police Scotland, they have been unprofessional, lazy and let me and my sisters down over an extended period, I'm no lover of our law enforcement agency." Wasn't that branch in the news a couple of years ago about some case that someone complained they'd treated similarly to yours? | |||
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"My most recent experience was to do with my ex and I have to say, I felt they dealt with it brilliantly and I was really impressed. I am sure, as in any profession there are a few bad ones, but for the most part they seem to do a good job. I wonder if it also depends where you live? I imagine, as I am rural, our police deal with different types of crimes to those in the city or am I being naïve in thinking that?" Well, the ones in Bury St Edmonds I have chatted to are very friendly and good natured. Probably due to having a low crime rate and a very pleasant environment in which to work. Have a mate in Coventry who is so overworked it is ridiculous. He says on a night, there are 19 officers on duty covering a 300,000+ population. Slightly more on a weekend, but the reckons they are all tasked on within 15 mins of his shift starting and then it's non stop all night. Geography is a major factor. | |||
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"I was harassed and assaulted by the police when I was 14, I made a complaint and it made things worse, it took 18 months to get the two officers off my back. With that in mind you would think I would have a problem with the police, but I dont, I had a problem with two men who thought that their uniform gave them the right to treat a kid like a criminal for no reason, I have made a point of making sure that my kids have a respect for the law and its enforcement, and that they have nothing to fear from the police unless they break the law, if we turn on the police we as a society are basically screwed " Very much agree | |||
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"When I was involved in an accident with hit and run driver, the policeman couldn't have been nicer at the scene, and when he came to my house to take a statement he put me at ease by making me laugh. Mind you, when he left he shouted out "and don't do it again" for all the neighbours to hear, the git! lol " | |||
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"What are your views or experiences?" Terrific band....nearly got to meet them in their hayday | |||
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"I live in London and have been mistreated by police based on stereotypes on multiple occasions. Nothing has ever come of any of these incidents as I wasn't doing anything wrong but I think there is a huge disparity between how people are treated by the police and a large factor in the treatment is racial profiling and stereotypes." and people behaving outside of the law. | |||
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"I live in London and have been mistreated by police based on stereotypes on multiple occasions. Nothing has ever come of any of these incidents as I wasn't doing anything wrong but I think there is a huge disparity between how people are treated by the police and a large factor in the treatment is racial profiling and stereotypes." They are hardly going to racially profile a white, middle-aged, woman as the next likely Islamic bomber; or am I missing something here? [ me: confused ] | |||
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"anyway I flipping love my job and hope that people I deal with can see that im genuine and do actually care and want to deliver the best srvice I possibly can!!.......... bit like my blow jobs lol...... sorry xxx take care, xxxxx " Now that's what I call public service! | |||
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"I've needed them. They where there 20 fold. I've also had them, search and trash my house. Pro,s and cons. " Yep a sad fact of life | |||
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"but im speaking from the view of being an employee of the police......" Interesting a member of the police has the useless pic disclaimer on their profile, nothing meant by it just didn't expect to see it Havnt had any bad experiences of them, had a few dealings and generally it's treat as expect to be treated, Expect them to be slightly aggressive at first until they confirm you are neither a threat or a potential criminal, stay calm and treat with respect and they generally chill and relax with you, However if once they have established I am not going to a problem they continue to be short then I will reduce to only answering with the shortest answer I can etc. Agree about the bad press though and it pisses me off, fb is encouraging this lack of respect for them, biggest problem is when I see a disliking for the police passed to little ones 'the police will get you' if they are missing or lost its creating a situation where the scared little one will hide from them not go them, But in most cases the big bad police man that people hate is the first one they go crying to when they have a problem. | |||
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"Adore them in uniform " Carrying handcuffs gets anyone my automatic respect They don't use them for speeding though, no matter how many times I ask, haha | |||
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"Adore them in uniform Carrying handcuffs gets anyone my automatic respect They don't use them for speeding though, no matter how many times I ask, haha " | |||
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"... cons. " Thought they were 'upposed to catch 'em | |||
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"Adore them in uniform Carrying handcuffs gets anyone my automatic respect They don't use them for speeding though, no matter how many times I ask, haha " Pmsl good point | |||
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"Their response was well we cant do anything about it he didn't do anything or have the intention to do anything " Breaking and Entering is a criminal offence, charges where applicable, Appreciate you have moved now but CCTV is well worth having | |||
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"Their response was well we cant do anything about it he didn't do anything or have the intention to do anything Breaking and Entering is a criminal offence, charges where applicable, Appreciate you have moved now but CCTV is well worth having" They couldn't prove he broke in, he got the kitchen window open and climbed through. Apparently its easy with the sort of windows in that house. I'm just pleased Mr had just moved in and I wasn't on my own that night. | |||
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"I live in London and have been mistreated by police based on stereotypes on multiple occasions. Nothing has ever come of any of these incidents as I wasn't doing anything wrong but I think there is a huge disparity between how people are treated by the police and a large factor in the treatment is racial profiling and stereotypes. They are hardly going to racially profile a white, middle-aged, woman as the next likely Islamic bomber; or am I missing something here? [ me: confused ]" This goes to show what the issue with this way of thinking is. While I agree with what you've said, I am Indian in origin, these IS bombers aren't Indian. yet a lot of people seem to think Asian and middle eastern (not that all middle easterners are bombers nor that all bombers are middle eastern) are the same thing, this is a misconception officers often also seem to have but all besides the point. Most of my issues have been 'random' stop and checks and being pulled over for 'routine checks' which don't actually exist in the law. And that is down to the stereotypes about young male drivers. I have had an officer outright tell me I was lying about having insurance on my car before even checking, and turns out...wait for it....I was fully legit. | |||
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"Feckin' useless. Always around when you don;t want them and never around when you do. Was teasing one a few years back, just chatting nicely before hitting him with: "But doesn't it depress you?" "What?" he asks. "You know, your job." "No. I love it." he says. "But if you think about all the crimes that occur every day - from the littering and minor traffic violations to the domestic violence and unsolved murders - how many actually get caught and how many of those end in successful prosecution?" Hew wasn't sure what to say to that." Neither am I, what's your point | |||
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"What are your views or experiences? They look younger every year " Haha so do plumbers, mechanics, van drivers Then I realised they don't, they are the same age, I'am getting older | |||
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"I live in London and have been mistreated by police based on stereotypes on multiple occasions. Nothing has ever come of any of these incidents as I wasn't doing anything wrong but I think there is a huge disparity between how people are treated by the police and a large factor in the treatment is racial profiling and stereotypes. They are hardly going to racially profile a white, middle-aged, woman as the next likely Islamic bomber; or am I missing something here? [ me: confused ] This goes to show what the issue with this way of thinking is. While I agree with what you've said, I am Indian in origin, these IS bombers aren't Indian. yet a lot of people seem to think Asian and middle eastern (not that all middle easterners are bombers nor that all bombers are middle eastern) are the same thing, this is a misconception officers often also seem to have but all besides the point. Most of my issues have been 'random' stop and checks and being pulled over for 'routine checks' which don't actually exist in the law. And that is down to the stereotypes about young male drivers. I have had an officer outright tell me I was lying about having insurance on my car before even checking, and turns out...wait for it....I was fully legit." I am sorry that this has happened to you. It is, no doubt, inconvenient for you but see it from the Police point-of-view Ofcourse, not ALL Asians or Middle-Eastern people are bombers; if they were, then they would just lock them all up; problem solved. It is just that the majority of the bombers are Asian / Middle-Eastern (or look it) I understand that you are Indian and not in that group; but just as you could not tell the difference between me and say, an Austrian; the Police cannot tell the difference between an Indian or a Pakistani Like I said, I am sorry that this happens but eventually it is to try and keep you as well as me and others safe Anyway, that is not the subject of this thread. It is about men in uniform and personally, I like to see them with their clothes off | |||
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"Feckin' useless. Always around when you don;t want them and never around when you do. Was teasing one a few years back, just chatting nicely before hitting him with: "But doesn't it depress you?" "What?" he asks. "You know, your job." "No. I love it." he says. "But if you think about all the crimes that occur every day - from the littering and minor traffic violations to the domestic violence and unsolved murders - how many actually get caught and how many of those end in successful prosecution?" Hew wasn't sure what to say to that. Neither am I, what's your point" Point was the first two lies - the rest was padding. | |||
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"Point was the first two lies - the rest was padding. " You got a nice little ego boost by putting a copper down by highlighting the things he personally has no control over, You know a copper, The people that clean up fatal accidents and inform the family A copper The people during the riots that where stuck there wearing incompatible clothes unable to legally effectively defend themselves but fought to regain control A copper such as Officer Bunting (read his book) But our culture seems to ignore that and pick on them for things they have no control over, Don't agree with it at all mate, in your comment he was having a friendly chat so he wasn't even one of the bad ones, respect the job they do under the constraints they have I agree they have many problems in the force but that is a fight that should be made way higher up the chain | |||
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"Point was the first two lies - the rest was padding. You got a nice little ego boost by putting a copper down by highlighting the things he personally has no control over, You know a copper, The people that clean up fatal accidents and inform the family A copper The people during the riots that where stuck there wearing incompatible clothes unable to legally effectively defend themselves but fought to regain control A copper such as Officer Bunting (read his book) But our culture seems to ignore that and pick on them for things they have no control over, Don't agree with it at all mate, in your comment he was having a friendly chat so he wasn't even one of the bad ones, respect the job they do under the constraints they have I agree they have many problems in the force but that is a fight that should be made way higher up the chain" I have *a lot* of dealing with the police in a professional capacity and little respect for them, I'm afraid. | |||
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"I have *a lot* of dealing with the police in a professional capacity and little respect for them, I'm afraid. " I mean they're not all stupid, useless, unthinking bastards but a lot of them are. | |||
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"Point was the first two lies - the rest was padding. You got a nice little ego boost by putting a copper down by highlighting the things he personally has no control over, You know a copper, The people that clean up fatal accidents and inform the family A copper The people during the riots that where stuck there wearing incompatible clothes unable to legally effectively defend themselves but fought to regain control A copper such as Officer Bunting (read his book) But our culture seems to ignore that and pick on them for things they have no control over, Don't agree with it at all mate, in your comment he was having a friendly chat so he wasn't even one of the bad ones, respect the job they do under the constraints they have I agree they have many problems in the force but that is a fight that should be made way higher up the chain" Thread winner. | |||
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"Point was the first two lies - the rest was padding. You got a nice little ego boost by putting a copper down by highlighting the things he personally has no control over, You know a copper, The people that clean up fatal accidents and inform the family A copper The people during the riots that where stuck there wearing incompatible clothes unable to legally effectively defend themselves but fought to regain control A copper such as Officer Bunting (read his book) But our culture seems to ignore that and pick on them for things they have no control over, Don't agree with it at all mate, in your comment he was having a friendly chat so he wasn't even one of the bad ones, respect the job they do under the constraints they have I agree they have many problems in the force but that is a fight that should be made way higher up the chain" and also the first people they would call if anything happened to them, there kids or family | |||
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"I have *a lot* of dealing with the police in a professional capacity and little respect for them, I'm afraid. I mean they're not all stupid, useless, unthinking bastards but a lot of them are. " I can't really go in to too many details but, within the last two years I dealt with a case involving a corpse, a severed hand, a man charged with murder and then released homeless by the cops 'cos they couldn't be bothered to deal with him over the w/end and released to our care as we're a nice soft touch. Ffs. | |||
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"Lived next door to one, they lie cheat piss people off, make up evidence and lose evidence just because they can, they commit crimes and hide behind a uniform, and can get away with murder. They joy ride in tax payers cars. No i don't have a police record. " so if u needed them would u call them? | |||
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"I have *a lot* of dealing with the police in a professional capacity and little respect for them, I'm afraid. I mean they're not all stupid, useless, unthinking bastards but a lot of them are. " Isn't that treat as you expect to be treated at its route cause, If we where less keen as a culture to snap them for parking or anything they do to bookface it, then they may not feel the need to be as aggressive as some do, Change needs to happen on both sides, | |||
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"I have *a lot* of dealing with the police in a professional capacity and little respect for them, I'm afraid. I mean they're not all stupid, useless, unthinking bastards but a lot of them are. Isn't that treat as you expect to be treated at its route cause, If we where less keen as a culture to snap them for parking or anything they do to bookface it, then they may not feel the need to be as aggressive as some do, Change needs to happen on both sides, " I'm a nice white, middle-class male - they don't see me as a threat. But the people I used to work for/with can go whistle. That is if they're not afraid of the police. | |||
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"Lived next door to one, they lie cheat piss people off, make up evidence and lose evidence just because they can, they commit crimes and hide behind a uniform, and can get away with murder. They joy ride in tax payers cars. No i don't have a police record. so if u needed them would u call them? " No, I would not, they are more likely to pin some thing on on the victim, because they already know where you are. I would call an ambulance, sod the police. | |||
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"I think their job just got a hell of a lot harder where I come from after watching the news. Dark days are apon the Manchester area. so not a job I'd like right now" why one wannabe gangster has killed another wannabe gangster one will soon be in prison where they cant effect the law abiding folk and the other will be six foot under where the same applies good riddance to bad rubbish live by the sword die by the sword | |||
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"In my opinion,they are the best and most professional police in the world....however they need to seriously and evidently improve on RACE relations! " And mental health training. The nutter (technical term) from the corner was arrested after a morning of sweating and shouting at the sky. It was the hottest say of the year and they held him out front in a van for 2.5 hrs. 3 cop cars, one riot van and an ambulance for one man. And then they just held him in the back of the van, swearing and shouting for all that time. It was almost like they didn't know what to do with him... The chap in question had been referred to the MH team but wasn't deemed mad enough. Such is life. | |||
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"At least they're not French, American, or god help you, Brazilian cops" You have to be a tough mother fucker to be a Brazilian cop or you don't live long. Let's not forget in Brazil it is not uncommon for drug gangs to destroy police helicopters and armoured personal carriers using heavy weapons. You put on a police uniform in Brazil and you enter a war. | |||
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"Or the time when a good friend came down from London for a birthday party, was beaten to a pulp by one of the local thugs who then accused him of getting his nob out in front of his son. The arresting officer was frightened of the bully (I later learned that they'd known each other since school) and took his word as gospel. Remember getting my mate out of jail at 2:30am. Cue court case at Crown Court, to which our bully failed - twice - to show up to give his 'evidence'. Not that the cops passed this info on. The judge acquitted my friend and threw out the case but not before 8 months, a huge amount of worry and money had been wasted. And all because a cop believed the word of a cunt. " bullying cunts tend to side with other bullying cunts | |||
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"Hello Bradleyandamy, "Never met an officer who wasn't completely lovely." You forget the newspaper seller in London who was knocked down by a policeman and then died. He was causing no harm but this thug knocked him to the ground. Yes he was punished for it but in the news footage not one of the rest of the many police about at that time went to assist the victim, not one. That tells me that that is the sort of behaviour they condone. Alec" Apart from the ones that administered first aid when it was apparent he was in a bad way. But hey let's forget about that bit. The actions of those officers were actually praised at that enquiry. Good officers efforts overshadowed by one bad. The story is repeated a thousand times over every day. | |||
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"At least they're not French, American, or god help you, Brazilian cops You have to be a tough mother fucker to be a Brazilian cop or you don't live long. Let's not forget in Brazil it is not uncommon for drug gangs to destroy police helicopters and armoured personal carriers using heavy weapons. You put on a police uniform in Brazil and you enter a war." I know! I escaped from Brazilian police on *coff* charges in 2007. Gave them the slip and did a runner when they got the handcuffs out, up a concrete escarpment where their quad bikes couldn't follow, then across 4 lanes of traffic. If was *lucky* they would have just rinsed my for thousands. Bastards. | |||
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"I'd have to say crap. I was punched in the face while protecting my friend during an unprovoked transphobic attack. We had the guys phone, CCTV everywhere... they said there was nothing they could do. Similar happens to many of my friends too. Police indifference to homo and transphobic attacks are still rife in the capital " Really!! Kinda had the opposite experience, they couldn't give a shit when our house was broken into - even though the thief kindly bled all over the floor leaving DNA for them. But there was a domestic case that alledgedly involved the word 'fag' and they were licking their lips at the opportunity to 'solve' a 'hate crime' | |||
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"Point was the first two lies - the rest was padding. You got a nice little ego boost by putting a copper down by highlighting the things he personally has no control over, You know a copper, The people that clean up fatal accidents and inform the family A copper The people during the riots that where stuck there wearing incompatible clothes unable to legally effectively defend themselves but fought to regain control A copper such as Officer Bunting (read his book) But our culture seems to ignore that and pick on them for things they have no control over, Don't agree with it at all mate, in your comment he was having a friendly chat so he wasn't even one of the bad ones, respect the job they do under the constraints they have I agree they have many problems in the force but that is a fight that should be made way higher up the chain" The copper in question was working for the Diplomatic Protection Group (SO6) who was guarding the back door of our building while his mates had snipers on the roof. They're overly dramatic, imo. | |||
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"My professional dealings with them have all been very professional - they have listened to me and I have listened to them and found solutions working together. Some of those I have worked with professionally have been exceptionally good people to work with. Whatever job they would have other than the police I have no doubt they would have done equally well. Also on the good side, when I was attacked with an iron bar around my head the police worked hard to find my assailant and kept me informed throughout. On the less than good side I have a friend (white, female, professional) who has been left crippled by police breaking her leg when she was on a peaceful march. It's an ongoing case so I can't say more. A police van reversed into my car at a red traffic light. They pulled me over and breathlysed ME and gave me a produce notice. Others witnessed that they had reversed into me but they refused to take the witness statements and would not admit liability so I was left with the insurance claim costs. On a systemic level I think the police have been given an almost impossible task now. Everything is sent to them as a first response, plus they have to consider reduction and prevention with virtually no time for anything other than the mandatory refresher training and development courses. Custody suites are full to bursting and the courts listing systems don't help. As others have said, it's a mixed bag. Where they fail then I think more owning up to that and apologising would go a long way. " And, in common with a lot of public jobs, a much better and more effective system for dealing with the occasional bad egg, whether incompetent, criminal or corrupt. Maybe then the public would hold less of the negative views and concentrate more on the undoubted good work most of them do. Reform the frigging IPCC (and equivalent supervisory bodies) too whilst you're at it. | |||
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"The only good ones are dead ones." . That's a bit harsh in all fairness | |||
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"The only good ones are dead ones.. That's a bit harsh in all fairness " just a bit. | |||
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"Q. What do you call a lady police-cop-ess? A. A Rozzette " What do you call a police woman with a shaved pussy? Cunt-stubble! But in all seriousness. I'm from South Yorkshire, and I can't think of a police force with a worse reputation. Never really had any dealings with them myself though. I'm a good boy | |||
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"Q. What do you call a lady police-cop-ess? A. A Rozzette What do you call a police woman with a shaved pussy? Cunt-stubble! But in all seriousness. I'm from South Yorkshire, and I can't think of a police force with a worse reputation. Never really had any dealings with them myself though. I'm a good boy " I dunno, try Avon and Somerset... or the Met... | |||
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"The only good ones are dead ones. explain?? " Something to do with the rose tinted handcuffs C... | |||
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"The British police are great. However, I saw an Italian officer smash a young kids head in with his baton after swinging and missing at the kids father. It was at a football match, and before you say something the dad was as innocent as his lad. I also saw an Italian policeman spit at a woman too. Vile behaviour. We're lucky that our police provide a good service, generally speaking." I have made this distinction - but there's deffo room for improvement. | |||
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" Oh and they lie through their teeth about crime figures - crime down my arse - that's backfired on them though because the Govt. has now cut their money considerably." It's not the force who lie about the figures, it's the government who changed the way that the figures are created. Just as they've changed the way that unemployment is calculated... not being employed isn't the same as being unemployed anymore | |||
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" Oh and they lie through their teeth about crime figures - crime down my arse - that's backfired on them though because the Govt. has now cut their money considerably. It's not the force who lie about the figures, it's the government who changed the way that the figures are created. Just as they've changed the way that unemployment is calculated... not being employed isn't the same as being unemployed anymore " they also did the same on death's in fires, basically fiddled the figures to justify a cut in the service nationally.. | |||
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"The police 'force' has become too much of a police 'service'. Political correctness is way over the top - very little training, which has led to a lowering of standards. Not a patch on the profession it was, say, 20 years ago - a real noticeable difference. Oh and they lie through their teeth about crime figures - crime down my arse - that's backfired on them though because the Govt. has now cut their money considerably." | |||
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"Diamondjoe " I do maintain that the complaint should be kept away from the beat copper and aimed at senior management and government, (don't think you disagree with though) But I will acknowledge it's very comfortable where I sit having had zero exposure to them for many many years, if I had some of the experiences you describe, without doubt I would jump the fence fast, | |||
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