FabSwingers.com forum: Jessica Ennis Hill, proof having children is no excuse!

By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When one considers that her livelihood is made from competitive athletics, one would argue she has no choice but to return to shape.

Not all women can, not all women want to. Allow them to choose what suits them without feeling as though the have to because someone says 'there's no excuse not to'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wasn't aware most women used it as an excuse or that most women doN't get their figure back. She's a great athlete and very committed. She has a great team behind her though - most normal mothers don't have that. Unless I missed something somewhere.

I would say though - that post giving birth , they say it can take up to a year to get back to normal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wasn't aware most women used it as an excuse or that most women doN't get their figure back. She's a great athlete and very committed. She has a great team behind her though - most normal mothers don't have that. Unless I missed something somewhere.

I would say though - that post giving birth , they say it can take up to a year to get back to normal. "

What is normal anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say though - that post giving birth , they say it can take up to a year to get back to normal.

What is normal anyway

I wouldn't know ! ( is there a slightly cuckoo emoji !)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say though - that post giving birth , they say it can take up to a year to get back to normal.

What is normal anyway

I wouldn't know ! ( is there a slightly cuckoo emoji !) "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

It's always the right of the individual to be an individual - and to be free to make our own life choices about our own bodies.

So don't try to use a guilt trip to impose your unwanted ideals....!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She's a professional athlete with a team of people behind her to make sure she's at the top of her game fitness wise before, during & after her pregnancy.

Not all women use pregnancy as excuse to eat whatever they want. I did with the first but not with my second as I was older and fully aware it would be harder to shift the excess weight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

So what's your excuse?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

So what's your excuse? "

My thoughts exactly. Men dont give birth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think Jessica Ennis Hill is a very good example considering her profession!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say though - that post giving birth , they say it can take up to a year to get back to normal.

What is normal anyway

Normal is an ideal in the thoughts of a maniac.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

So what's your excuse?

My thoughts exactly. Men dont give birth

Indeed, we've had two beautiful kids and J worked hard to get back in shape but under no pressure from me.. Although I didn't give birth I feasted on Hagen daz and pizza throughout the pregnancies with her so we got big together.. And I love her tiger stripes, it's a reminder of our journey together

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Behave

How much did your last baby weigh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

Behave

How much did your last baby weigh?

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say. "

In nature creatures stay in reasonable shape or they don't survive long. Laziness and high sugar high fat diets are don't are a human problem. Yes Jessica is perhaps an extreme example but it is certainly not privilege that got her to where she is. Privilege has nothing to go with her body shape, it's all about attitude, about making the right choices.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

Excuse, excuse for what, being human? We are all different. She is a world class athlete.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

In nature creatures are judgmental pricks! Being pregnant is nothing to do with a high fat diet... If Jessica put on twenty stone by eating dominos and then lost it all through an average diet then that's inspirational..

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

So what's your excuse? "

Can't let go what you never had... But I am certainly fitter than average

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

What about post natal depression,that can make women put on weight by comfort eating, and many other factors which are nobody`s fault, I just feel that comparisons are very unhelpful when people have stuff to deal with, it`s not so cut and dry.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then? "

Ooooh you said thinly on a fat thread!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

One example of something is not proof of any theory.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BTW, you mention " laziness" , have you ever raised a baby by yourself?

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then? "

Sorry, no veil was intended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then?

Ooooh you said thinly on a fat thread!

Doh! I'm must be bashing too then

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then?

Ooooh you said thinly on a fat thread!

Steady, next "real" women and "Barbie dolls" will be mentioned.

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

can hardly be compared to her!!! we are all different

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then?

Ooooh you said thinly on a fat thread!

Steady, next "real" women and "Barbie dolls" will be mentioned."

Not forgeting the 'only dogs like bones' comments

Now we've done the clichés let's have some cake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

So what's your excuse?

Can't let go what you never had... But I am certainly fitter than average"
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Maybe but compared to a professional athlete your fitness and physique is laughable ... I mean a women who has just given birth is in better shape than you!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then?

Ooooh you said thinly on a fat thread!

Steady, next "real" women and "Barbie dolls" will be mentioned.

Not forgeting the 'only dogs like bones' comments

Now we've done the clichés let's have some cake

I got donuts, close enough relation to cake. I'll waddle up with some for ya

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I only had children so I had an excuse to get chubby...I was so fed up with all the effort I had to put into maintaining my supermodel body, it was a relief to let it go in all honesty

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then?

Ooooh you said thinly on a fat thread!

Steady, next "real" women and "Barbie dolls" will be mentioned.

Not forgeting the 'only dogs like bones' comments

Now we've done the clichés let's have some cake

You look like you have your cake intake just right.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then?

Ooooh you said thinly on a fat thread!

Steady, next "real" women and "Barbie dolls" will be mentioned.

Not forgeting the 'only dogs like bones' comments

Now we've done the clichés let's have some cake

Now you're talking, I'll have a very large slice of Victoria sponge please. It's ok I last have birth 24 years ago

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"I only had children so I had an excuse to get chubby...I was so fed up with all the effort I had to put into maintaining my supermodel body, it was a relief to let it go in all honesty

There ain't nothing wrong with your body unless your pics are airbrushed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was to have people making my meals and training me. If I didn't have to look after my children alone and didn't have a full time job... then maybe I too could look better. However healthy isnt all about scales and bmi. It's about how you feel.

I would say there are far more people unhappy with their bodies than those who are. However it's important to make peace with yourself. If you can't accept yourself you can't expect others to either.

Also i imagine she like many others are under a huge amount of pressure to look a certain way. Believe me, post baby all I wanted was hugs and sleep. Not a gym or training or a strict diet .

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it."

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fattys rule!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese..."

Conforming to ideals is the problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Yeah but she is now a bit of a slowcoach eh, - so childbirth has made a difference to her fitness after all!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese..."

But that isn't just women.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

Maybe but compared to a professional athlete your fitness and physique is laughable ... I mean a women who has just given birth is in better shape than you!! "

Lol. You got me there

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese..."
no, too conform is aspiring or achieving what we are told to be, what is seen as the norm or ideal.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Fattys rule!

Nothing fatty about mrs naughty!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

In nature there is a high miscarriage rate.

In nature people eat infrequently

In nature people die of malnutrition.

In nature children are still born more often

In nature infants die young.

In nature women die in childbirth.

Apply your 'in nature' theories to Jessica Ennis. She'd be hard bloody pushed to find a running track and a lycra suit.

AND...... In nature we'd all be busy hunting, foraging , building , fucking and laughing. Not behind a desk , till or computer in sedentary slavery. Lazy my arse. Don't try the Gym argument either.

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Oh sorry fitness wasnt my priority and still isnt

Having your son 3 months early and watching him lose his fight for life, then being a grieving mother oh im sorry im fat!!

think before you speak

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Her body is the tool she uses for her career, just because you took a few months, out you wouldn't let your tools go rusty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say though - that post giving birth , they say it can take up to a year to get back to normal.

What is normal anyway

I wouldn't know ! ( is there a slightly cuckoo emoji !)

No, a glaring omission by the powers that be.

Dear Fab boss/bossette

We want........

Cuckoo smiley along with, head against wall, face-palm, middle finger salute, a cock, a pussy, and boobs smileys. Get on it.

Yours hopefully

Da Forum peeps"

Also need a (dont feed the trolls) emote

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then?

Sorry, no veil was intended. "

I like this.

owning that it's an out and out fat women bashing thread.

Genetics also play their part, OP. I'm fairly certain that even if I had tried very, very hard I would never have been close to a Jess Ennis Hill body shape and fitness level. My arthritis would have got in the way long before I would reach that level.

Plus I like cake.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese...

But that isn't just women. "

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

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over a year ago

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Well there's a guy lives opposite us and he and his wife have three children. He has put on more weight with each child I might pop a picture of Jess through his letter box later.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

Well there's a guy lives opposite us and he and his wife have three children. He has put on more weight with each child I might pop a picture of Jess through his letter box later."

Which one of them gave birth?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Know plenty of people who have worked hard to get their figure back after childbirth some lucky ones it was natural. It's up to the individual and their circumstance. If people really want to lose weight there really is nothing stopping them. A colleague couldn't fit the hours in during the day because of work and childcare so she would simply get up an hour earlier and exercise.

If they don't want to lose weight and are happy then live and let live. No point guilt tripping society. Should imagine pregnancy and it's after effects are not something you can just shake off overnight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I only had children so I had an excuse to get chubby...I was so fed up with all the effort I had to put into maintaining my supermodel body, it was a relief to let it go in all honesty

There ain't nothing wrong with your body unless your pics are airbrushed"

Ah but I'm one of these women that have let it go that you refer to in your OP. Before kids I was size 10/12 and 8 1/2 stone. I put on 4 stone with my first child even though I didn't think I was overeating, I clearly was. After the birth I went back to work full time because I had to. I don't know if you've ever worked full time and been the primary carer for a baby....it's exhausting. The last thing I wanted to do was get myself to the gym...some of us also use food as a comforter. It's not an excuse. It's fucking hard. Im still not happy with my post kids body, but I'm getting there. No having kids isn't an excuse, but for many it was the initial cause of any weight increase and for many normal women it can lead to years of hating what pregnancy has done to your body and a battle with weight that never existed before. Think before you criticize. If it was easy we would all have athletic figures!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

Oh sorry fitness wasnt my priority and still isnt

Having your son 3 months early and watching him lose his fight for life, then being a grieving mother oh im sorry im fat!!

think before you speak "

I'm sorry for your pain. My son was a prem baby who didn't make it too. My lupous came on after that pregnancy and I couldn't walk for several months, was hospitalised for total bed rest and strangely getting my previous pregnancy figure wasn't even on my radar. But you know, Jess proves it's pissy so we should be ashamed of ourselves.

I did run the Olympic Stadium last weekend, really slowly but I'm gonna claim it - I ran where Jess has run so I can't be doing too badly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese...

But that isn't just women.

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

I think airlines baggage allowances should take account of passenger and baggage weight combined. Pisses me off when I have to pay excess baggage when other passengers weigh more than my combined weight!"
how about the theary us bigger people should be alowed more because we prob take same amount off cloves but ours will way more as there bigger !

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese...

But that isn't just women.

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

I'm not keen on broadening it out to tell the truth. There are threads almost daily which bash women and it is usually women for having the body they have. Derogatory terms are used for all sizes of women from very slim to very large and this often invites sycophantic behaviour from men. If you don't like larger women leave them alone and if you don't want fat people to pay the same air fare as you approach the airlines and hope that you never need steroids long term or contract an illness that leaves you unable to exercise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Fuck me your gonna get pelters for this comment.

Most women don't let themselves go as such, just usually too busy and tired being mum's.

Plus she was in awsome shape beforehand which makes it easier to get back into shape.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

Well there's a guy lives opposite us and he and his wife have three children. He has put on more weight with each child I might pop a picture of Jess through his letter box later."

Food babies are birthed anally, aren't they? What colour is this thread, I wonder?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese...

But that isn't just women.

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

I think airlines baggage allowances should take account of passenger and baggage weight combined. Pisses me off when I have to pay excess baggage when other passengers weigh more than my combined weight!how about the theary us bigger people should be alowed more because we prob take same amount off cloves but ours will way more as there bigger ! "

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

Well there's a guy lives opposite us and he and his wife have three children. He has put on more weight with each child I might pop a picture of Jess through his letter box later.

Which one of them gave birth?"

It wasn't him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese...

But that isn't just women.

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

They do take that in to account that's why you have a baggage allowance, they're not allowed to put passengers in the hold.

and fyi some airlines do charge for an extra seat if they cannot fit in the one provided.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Right the, now that's been settled. Fancy a shag?

I am a bit of a fatty though.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

lmao Practise what you preach. Seriously are you 34

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

Well there's a guy lives opposite us and he and his wife have three children. He has put on more weight with each child I might pop a picture of Jess through his letter box later.

Food babies are birthed anally, aren't they? What colour is this thread, I wonder?"

Hmmm. Me too.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

In nature there is a high miscarriage rate.

In nature people eat infrequently

In nature people die of malnutrition.

In nature children are still born more often

In nature infants die young.

In nature women die in childbirth.

Apply your 'in nature' theories to Jessica Ennis. She'd be hard bloody pushed to find a running track and a lycra suit.

AND...... In nature we'd all be busy hunting, foraging , building , fucking and laughing. Not behind a desk , till or computer in sedentary slavery. Lazy my arse. Don't try the Gym argument either. "

Working behind a desk is not an excuse. I spend a lot if my time behind a desk. The desk is not the problem, it's the pile of high sugar foods and beverage that get consumed behind them!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"So this is just a thinly veiled fat bashing thread then? "

No pun intended I'm sure!

Don't think there's anything veiled about this thread.

Giselle, Heidi, Victoria, Duchess of Cambridge et al all regained their pre baby bodies. There are millions of women bouncing back within days of dropping, millions more who don't.

Whatever way anyone wants to go for them, I can't see where it's my business to criticise either way.

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over a year ago

I feel sorry for people who are a little wider than a plane seat. I have trouble squeezing my frame in as it is. I pay for the extra room now.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

In nature there is a high miscarriage rate.

In nature people eat infrequently

In nature people die of malnutrition.

In nature children are still born more often

In nature infants die young.

In nature women die in childbirth.

Apply your 'in nature' theories to Jessica Ennis. She'd be hard bloody pushed to find a running track and a lycra suit.

AND...... In nature we'd all be busy hunting, foraging , building , fucking and laughing. Not behind a desk , till or computer in sedentary slavery. Lazy my arse. Don't try the Gym argument either.

Working behind a desk is not an excuse. I spend a lot if my time behind a desk. The desk is not the problem, it's the pile of high sugar foods and beverage that get consumed behind them!

You need to look at the broader (sorry) picture. There is an obesity epidemic in this country for sure but child birth and women office workers are not the cause of it.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Amazing - an athlete gets her shape back. Why I'll go to the foot of my stairs.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Right the, now that's been settled. Fancy a shag?

I am a bit of a fatty though......."

Must be outdated photos

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over a year ago

"Right the, now that's been settled. Fancy a shag?

I am a bit of a fatty though.......

Must be outdated photos"

You're assuming this is Mrs N then. Oooops

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Amazing - an athlete gets her shape back. Why I'll go to the foot of my stairs.

You manage to retain your shape Time, through thick and thin

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Amazing - an athlete gets her shape back. Why I'll go to the foot of my stairs.

You manage to retain your shape Time, through thick and thin

Tina I mean x

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

good luck to her

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By *andp01Couple
over a year ago

here n there

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say. "

She's not privileged, she works bloody hard for what she's got

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Total Bollox...Discuss

Gimp

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

You need to look at the broader (sorry) picture. There is an obesity epidemic in this country for sure but child birth and women office workers are not the cause of it."

I do agree totally. Child birth and office work are not the cause of obesity, they are amongst a long list of excuses that people give to explain their inability to make healthy lifestyle choices.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Right the, now that's been settled. Fancy a shag?

I am a bit of a fatty though.......

Must be outdated photos

You're assuming this is Mrs N then. Oooops

No I did guess you are the Mr.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

I had pnd, and became a single mum when my daughter was 7 and a half months old. I had no me time. No way of going to the gym, cooked meals In batches for her, ate on the go myself. If anybody doesn't like how I look, it's tough shit, go look elsewhere, I'm not interested in judgemental fools anyway.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

"Amazing - an athlete gets her shape back. Why I'll go to the foot of my stairs.

You manage to retain your shape Time, through thick and thin

Tina I mean x"

Yes, but after a thick one, my bum doesn't retain it's shape.....

Is it too early for that remark?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

You need to look at the broader (sorry) picture. There is an obesity epidemic in this country for sure but child birth and women office workers are not the cause of it.

I do agree totally. Child birth and office work are not the cause of obesity, they are amongst a long list of excuses that people give to explain their inability to make healthy lifestyle choices."

I feel that you picked a loser using childbirth as an example, until you have experience of something you can't use it as an example the way you have. Please don't tell me that your partner has given birth or you work in a hospital or you have sisters because trust me until you actually give birth to a baby by any route then go through the recovery process both physical and mental you can have no idea. By all means open up a sensible discussion around your concerns for society and the obesity problem but don't make the mistake so many do of starting from a point where it's women's fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Amazing - an athlete gets her shape back. Why I'll go to the foot of my stairs.

You manage to retain your shape Time, through thick and thin

Tina I mean x

Yes, but after a thick one, my bum doesn't retain it's shape.....

Is it too early for that remark?

It's never too early or too thin

to misquote Wallis Simpson

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

I`m looking after two boys and I`m wrecked, goodness knows what state I`d be in if I gave birth to them as well,

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Our bodies are capable of many things but in reality it is not always feasible.

Jessica Ennis Hill commits her working life to maintaining that level of fitness. Would the OP be prepared to put in the same effort?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

correct she looks amazing,

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

Of course, what would we know? Don't let that episiotomy stop you from lifting weights.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

Of course, what would we know? Don't let that episiotomy stop you from lifting weights."

Lickety you crack me up

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

True and well said, same goes for me. Three kids and working long hours .... but more to the point, who are you or anyone else to judge? What is the right body shape for a woman? Rubenesque? Well that surely is a natural shape ... I have been battling with my thyroid for years, lack of it, due to childbirth. My diet is not perfect but I have no opportunity or desire to spend hours down the gym. Indeed have met men who are ripped and do, and they hold absolutely no interest for me, nor do those with thinly veiled pity or contempt. If you are secure in yourself, you dont criticise others, that's what I go by.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

Of course, what would we know? Don't let that episiotomy stop you from lifting weights.

Lickety you crack me up

The idea that all pregnancies and births are the same, that all women will experience the same thing and therefore our ability to recover will be the same from a man cracks me up.

For one of my pregnancies I threw up four or five times a day everyday from the moment of conception to the moment of miscarriage, which had then to be delivered in a traditional birth as I was too far gone for anything else. I wonder when I should have hit the running track after that one?

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over a year ago

"Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

Of course, what would we know? Don't let that episiotomy stop you from lifting weights.

Lickety you crack me up

The idea that all pregnancies and births are the same, that all women will experience the same thing and therefore our ability to recover will be the same from a man cracks me up.

Before they cut the cord of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like this new theme...

discuss............

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Jessica looks good.

So do the army of people behind her minding her child and doing her P.A. while she does her job.

I don't ever give a shit about the fat bashing on here. Most are fat on here.

I do give a shit sometimes about the woman bashing.

I always give ten shits about 'straw men' using 'red herrings' and 'untruths' to support their brand of bullshit.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Just had to look at some pictures of here to see what we are talking about. The body she has is in no way attractive to me, Mrs or I know for a fact to Mr. When I am attracted to a woman I look for curves and softness .... that is what makes a woman a woman, in my opinion. The fact that this type of change occurs after a woman has had children for some women, only accentuates the fact that it Si a female thing.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I like this new theme...

discuss............"

Discuss ..... discuss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like this new theme...

discuss............

Discuss ..... discuss."

I had a discussion about discussing discussions, we discussed disgusting too just at my discussedness in general.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I like this new theme...

discuss............

Discuss ..... discuss."

She runs. Someone else throws the discus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sorry also op...but heres something to discuss..

your only shown verify, appears to be ample...would you like to discuss with her about her excuse for letting herself go?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say. "

Not everyones body goes back the way it was. I actually weighed the same or less!! After my pregnancies but only surgery would fix the loose skin on my tummy. I dont happen to have a spare 6k lying around as its happens.

Im not perfect and i dont care i like me.

So in summary... Meh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Muscle memory has a lot to answer for.

Good for her but it didn't happen overnight either.

After having children, everything changes not just your body.

I'm fat because of my diet. Not because I don't exercise!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

Jessica Ennis-Hill is proof that if you do six hours a day down the gym or on the track you'll be as fit-as-fuck!

There's lots of people who aren't in prime fitness. Men and women. Probably a million and one reasons for this. We're all different. Not really any of my business if I'm honest.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her"

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly am

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly am"

Well that will have put a lot of women off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly am"

Nah mate your not!

And for the record everyone likes different things!!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

Of course, what would we know? Don't let that episiotomy stop you from lifting weights.

Lickety you crack me up

The idea that all pregnancies and births are the same, that all women will experience the same thing and therefore our ability to recover will be the same from a man cracks me up.

A little empathy goes a long way. I fear it's missing in some.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

So what's your excuse?

My thoughts exactly. Men dont give birth

Oh fuck!! Horner than any rude story! I want you both!!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly am"

According to another thread this week, the women will be falling at your feet.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

Of course, what would we know? Don't let that episiotomy stop you from lifting weights.

Lickety you crack me up

The idea that all pregnancies and births are the same, that all women will experience the same thing and therefore our ability to recover will be the same from a man cracks me up.

A little empathy goes a long way. I fear it's missing in some.

There has been a miss carriage in my life so I am not without empathy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly am"

Put some athletic pics up and stop teasing us with your "before" pics. You giant flirt you.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

Of course, what would we know? Don't let that episiotomy stop you from lifting weights.

Lickety you crack me up

The idea that all pregnancies and births are the same, that all women will experience the same thing and therefore our ability to recover will be the same from a man cracks me up.

A little empathy goes a long way. I fear it's missing in some.

There has been a miss carriage in my life so I am not without empathy!"

It isn't obvious in this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

what is your excuse then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly what were you hoping this thread would acheive?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

I sort of doubt that, she was more than likely an easy choice by which you thought you would try and do some people down..

not sure why..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly am"
Nah You think you are! a big difference, and may i note, it is not an attractive trait to a woman.

Her

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Exactly what were you hoping this thread would acheive?

He says it wasn't a veiled fat bashing thread, apologising for any veil that was perceived. What he didn't claim but many of us see is that it is specifically bashing fat women, particularly those who have had a baby.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Always love how a man feels wellplaced to comment on how women should look after giving birth. Bravo

Of course, what would we know? Don't let that episiotomy stop you from lifting weights.

Lickety you crack me up

The idea that all pregnancies and births are the same, that all women will experience the same thing and therefore our ability to recover will be the same from a man cracks me up.

A little empathy goes a long way. I fear it's missing in some.

There has been a miss carriage in my life so I am not without empathy!"

So you know all births are not the same, that the factors after pregnancy are not the same yet you still felt that a huge generalisation to attack women, using one whose job it is is to run really fast, was a good thing?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly amNah You think you are! a big difference, and may i note, it is not an attractive trait to a woman.

Her"

Mrs Muffin you rock!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"BTW, you mention " laziness" , have you ever raised a baby by yourself?"

I like this one, can we keep him Honeypot?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly amNah You think you are! a big difference, and may i note, it is not an attractive trait to a woman.

Her

Mrs Muffin you rock! "

Thanks, i speak as i find, not always liked for it though

Her

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"A little empathy goes a long way. I fear it's missing in some.

There has been a miss carriage in my life so I am not without empathy!"

Sadly not borne out by your lack of thought before you started the thread..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly amNah You think you are! a big difference, and may i note, it is not an attractive trait to a woman.

Her

Mrs Muffin you rock!

Thanks, i speak as i find, not always liked for it though

Her"

you keep telling it how it is, love it

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

an OP starts a thread.....

doesn't quite work out the way the OP wanted it to....

makes the OP not looks as good as they hoped.....

and slowly but surely... the OP starts walking it back

so should we call the dance "the backtrack"... or the "foot in mouth"

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

I sort of doubt that, she was more than likely an easy choice by which you thought you would try and do some people down..

not sure why.."

If people are brought down rather than being inspired by the efforts of others then how am I responsible?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you took one overweight person and said here we go, here's a team of people that will look after your child/children, do all of your house work, pay all your bills so you don't have to work as well and we'll control every single thing you eat and make you exercise every day, tell you exactly what exercises to do and for how long. You'd no longer have an overweight person, you'd have someone in good shape.

You can't compare an athlete who's job it is to be fit. She gets paid (a lot)for being fit that is her 'work' and she probably doesn't have to stress as much as a normal person. She has a team of professionals around her and support and she is educated in training and diet.

Then you have a woman who maybe has to work, run a home, look after children. Where's the time to go to the gym and train for 5 hours a day and prepare all meals from fresh ingriedients, lucky to have the scraps that your kid leaves then you make something for yourself when they go to bed.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Oh dear! yet another that thinks he is an adonis.

Her

Compared to the average... Yes, I certainly amNah You think you are! a big difference, and may i note, it is not an attractive trait to a woman.

Her

Mrs Muffin you rock!

Thanks, i speak as i find, not always liked for it though

Her"

I prefer that

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"an OP starts a thread.....

doesn't quite work out the way the OP wanted it to....

It got folk talking... Job done!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you took one overweight person and said here we go, here's a team of people that will look after your child/children, do all of your house work, pay all your bills so you don't have to work as well and we'll control every single thing you eat and make you exercise every day, tell you exactly what exercises to do and for how long. You'd no longer have an overweight person, you'd have someone in good shape.

Yeah, like toast, cos you are knackered and cba by 10pm!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese...

But that isn't just women.

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

Really?

As parents we pay the same price for the tickets of our 4 stone children as a 30stone man would (yes op - some men are overweight too!)

My 2 children and I have a combined body weight of about 20 stone! Many men and women in the UK weigh more that on their own!

As the cost of flying a plane from A to B is determined by the weight it carries - I find this incredibly unfair!!

I believe absolutely that everyone has the right to diet/exercise or not as they see fit - but I do feel that current airline pricing is wrong - and should be based on the approximate weight of passenger/group of passengers plus their luggage - as that's what determines the cost of the flight! Xx

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"an OP starts a thread.....

doesn't quite work out the way the OP wanted it to....

It got folk talking... Job done!"

It's good, but it's not quite Carling.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"
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Actually most athletes do not have teams of people running their lives. Believe it or not they do not have dozens of staff to do their chores, their home life responsibilities are much the same as the rest of us!! They just use their time effectively. What they do usually have, which perhaps some people do not, are supportive families around them.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

I sort of doubt that, she was more than likely an easy choice by which you thought you would try and do some people down..

not sure why..

If people are brought down rather than being inspired by the efforts of others then how am I responsible?

on here they wont be so in that you failed, there is a 'fat people bashing thread' usually though not always started by some bloke regularly on here..

its old hat and only serves to highlight the type of person who starts them as less than a favourable type of individual..

in what way pray answer is any part of your input 'inspirational'..?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"an OP starts a thread.....

doesn't quite work out the way the OP wanted it to....

It got folk talking... Job done!"

that only works on the hypothetical belief that "any publicity is good publicity!".......

I have some heartbreaking news for you.... its not!!! sorry to shatter that illusion like that....

if you need me... i'll be in cake corner.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whats wrong with nature, that puts so much pressure on people, not everyone is a privileged as she is, not a nice thing to say.

I don't expect anyone to achieve Jessica levels of fitness but if it can inspire people to live healthier lifestyles then I am all for it.

Good for you OP, you can do it!

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By *o30Woman
over a year ago

Lincoln

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

well I'm well and truly stuffed then, I haven't even had kids & let myself go as you say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate and I really do me hate the idea that we all must conform and be a certain way. People are fundamentally the same yet all individuals, diversity is the spice of life after all, enjoy it.

To conform is to be average, in the UK to be average is to be borderline obese...

But that isn't just women.

Well we can broaden this out! It was just Jessica inspired the thread.

Really?

As parents we pay the same price for the tickets of our 4 stone children as a 30stone man would (yes op - some men are overweight too!)

My 2 children and I have a combined body weight of about 20 stone! Many men and women in the UK weigh more that on their own!

As the cost of flying a plane from A to B is determined by the weight it carries - I find this incredibly unfair!!

As one who knows a bit about flying and air travel, it's only one factor that determines the cost, and it's a small factor in the grand scheme of running a machine that costs £200m to buy

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over a year ago

OP..I'd still love to know why u met an ample person..wondering if u bought her a cake with the coffee...or decided a slim-fast shake was better

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over a year ago

"an OP starts a thread.....

doesn't quite work out the way the OP wanted it to....

It got folk talking... Job done!

that only works on the hypothetical belief that "any publicity is good publicity!".......

I have some heartbreaking news for you.... its not!!! sorry to shatter that illusion like that....

if you need me... i'll be in cake corner.....

Pass me the double chocolate and i will bring full fat lattes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Supportive families, coaches, money and most importantly time to train.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"OP..I'd still love to know why u met an ample person..wondering if u bought her a cake with the coffee...or decided a slim-fast shake was better"

Can I not be social? It doesn't always have to be about sexual attraction

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over a year ago

Supportive families, coaches, money and most importantly time to train. "

just a quick google:

What is the life expectancy of world class athletes?

Not so good. The average elite athlete will die by the age of 67. That is considerably lower then the 76 year life expectancy of the average American. Do you want to hear something that is really scary? According to the NFL Players Association, the average life expectancy of an NFL player is 58 years of age.

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over a year ago

"OP..I'd still love to know why u met an ample person..wondering if u bought her a cake with the coffee...or decided a slim-fast shake was better

Can I not be social? It doesn't always have to be about sexual attraction"

the point being...........would you have made the same comment as you have in your thread.........

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"OP..I'd still love to know why u met an ample person..wondering if u bought her a cake with the coffee...or decided a slim-fast shake was better

Can I not be social? It doesn't always have to be about sexual attraction

the point being...........would you have made the same comment as you have in your thread........."

The comment that Jessica Ennis is fit, sure, no problem

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over a year ago

"OP..I'd still love to know why u met an ample person..wondering if u bought her a cake with the coffee...or decided a slim-fast shake was better

Can I not be social? It doesn't always have to be about sexual attraction

the point being...........would you have made the same comment as you have in your thread.........

The comment that Jessica Ennis is fit, sure, no problem "

so the implication was not aimed at fat women who have had kids having an excuse for being fat?- you are flummoxing me here....

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By *P2903Couple
over a year ago

Rotherham

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

My two cents - JEH is a professional athlete by trade. Her job is to maintain a level of fitness that average people simply cannot afford to attain, either financially or in terms of available time.

When she has earned sufficient money from sponsorship and endorsements that she can settle down she will no doubt ratchet her training down from "world class athlete" to "incredibly fit person".

Given six to twelve months and a team of trainers, nutritionists etc there are very few people who could not make massive changes the their health and well-being, even attaining "incredibly fit person" levels.

Pro athletes are *professionals*. They are paid to get to a level that would make you or I look like meandering sloths. I'm an MMA fan and the amount that fighters spend on 8 week fight camps would make your eyes water. Maintaining that level of fitness is a full time job and costs *thousands*.

The takeaway from this (and you look like you enjoy the occasional takeaway so this will probably appeal) is that having a baby as a professional athlete and being an average working mum are in no way comparable.

Thanks for the opportunity to have this discussion. We've learned a lot about the sort of man you are today.

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over a year ago

Thanks for the opportunity to have this discussion. We've learned a lot about the sort of man you are today."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

So what's your excuse?

My thoughts exactly. Men dont give birth

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"OP..I'd still love to know why u met an ample person..wondering if u bought her a cake with the coffee...or decided a slim-fast shake was better

Can I not be social? It doesn't always have to be about sexual attraction

the point being...........would you have made the same comment as you have in your thread.........

The comment that Jessica Ennis is fit, sure, no problem "

tell me just how that conversation may go please?

in an inspirational way..

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!

My two cents - JEH is a professional athlete by trade. Her job is to maintain a level of fitness that average people simply cannot afford to attain, either financially or in terms of available time.

When she has earned sufficient money from sponsorship and endorsements that she can settle down she will no doubt ratchet her training down from "world class athlete" to "incredibly fit person".

Thanks for the opportunity to have this discussion. We've learned a lot about the sort of man you are today."

I am in total agreement with most of your comment, though it does make me smile every time someone in this discussion tries to attack my shape. I might not have a fully toned six pack but I certainly don't wobbly like a jelly as I walk. Nothing wrong with the occasional take away, emphasis on occasional.

I don't expect ladies, gents, parents or otherwise to have a professional sports person body. That level of fitness is simply too demanding on time for most people to have a hope of achieving let alone maintaining.

There is a middle ground. As a society are national health service is collapsing, in part because of people's bad live style choices.

So what does this discussion say about me...?

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over a year ago

"OP..I'd still love to know why u met an ample person..wondering if u bought her a cake with the coffee...or decided a slim-fast shake was better

Can I not be social? It doesn't always have to be about sexual attraction

the point being...........would you have made the same comment as you have in your thread.........

The comment that Jessica Ennis is fit, sure, no problem

tell me just how that conversation may go please?

in an inspirational way.."

A"that jennifer ellis is fit"

B"is she?"

A"check her out"(shows pic)

B"yes she is quite fit,I'd lick her snatch"

A "bit more work and U could be like this too"

B "Thank you..you have reignited my desire to get fit"

A "You've two months to get fit before I shag you"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"OP..I'd still love to know why u met an ample person..wondering if u bought her a cake with the coffee...or decided a slim-fast shake was better

Can I not be social? It doesn't always have to be about sexual attraction

the point being...........would you have made the same comment as you have in your thread.........

The comment that Jessica Ennis is fit, sure, no problem

tell me just how that conversation may go please?

in an inspirational way..

A"that jennifer ellis is fit"

B"is she?"

A"check her out"(shows pic)

B"yes she is quite fit,I'd lick her snatch"

A "bit more work and U could be like this too"

B "Thank you..you have reignited my desire to get fit"

A "You've two months to get fit before I shag you""

Paddy that's err awesome..

best licence that now just in case..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Supportive families, coaches, money and most importantly time to train.

just a quick google:

What is the life expectancy of world class athletes?

Shit, I wouldn't like to see the average for Rugby League players then!!

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By *P2903Couple
over a year ago

Rotherham

"I am in total agreement with most of your comment, though it does make me smile every time someone in this discussion tries to attack my shape. I might not have a fully toned six pack but I certainly don't wobbly like a jelly as I walk. Nothing wrong with the occasional take away, emphasis on occasional.

There is a middle ground. As a society are national health service is collapsing, in part because of people's bad live style choices.

So what does this discussion say about me...?

Are you not reading the responses critical of your attitude?

Your live style (sic) choices are not to be a pro athlete so who are you to criticise *literally every other person who isn't* and fails to maintain a level of fitness equivalent to JEH?

It's hypocritical in the extreme and your expectations of the work a mother does are clearly massively out of proportion with the reality.

I'm a working dad doing 25hrs a week and I look after our pre-schooler and am a house husband the rest of the time so I understand the effort in doing all of this but you know what?

I didn't have to carry the sproglet for months, having my body change shape and then go through the trauma of childbirth.

I didn't carry the child. I can only imagine how hard it is to do everything I do and on top of that, to have to deal with societal pressure no revert back to my prior body shape (or alternatively, some even greater expectation).

You appear to lack respect for those that are unable to maintain epic fitness levels. Adjust your expectations and don't make women feel shitty because they don't conform to your precious preconceptions.

The "attack" on your body? A throwaway joke that appealed in the moment. Don't think too much on it. It's a perfectly normal body for an average early 30s male. Nothing to be ashamed of.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

just a quick google:

What is the life expectancy of world class athletes?

Ah the first link that comes up on google will always be a source of indisputable fact! Another study shows Olympic medal winners live nearly 3 years longer than the average person. So we can all pick and choose our statistics.

What is pretty undisputed fact is that if you are obese you are statistically less likely to reach average life expectancy and you are more likely to suffer ailments that reduce quality of life.

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By *P2903Couple
over a year ago

Rotherham

Tbh any high impact sport will have higher early mortality rates due to compound concussive trauma. Quality of life for pro athletes in later life can be severely impacted by this, ruined joints etc.

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

"Tbh any high impact sport will have higher early mortality rates due to compound concussive trauma. Quality of life for pro athletes in later life can be severely impacted by this, ruined joints etc."

Basically we have it about right then... Reasonable fitness without excessive wear... We might live forever and be able to enjoy it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Twaddle. The athletics is her job!! That's what she spends her day doing! Training. 6hours, 5 days a week. I had that sort of time for training, I'd be in top shape too, better than your 'adonis' figure. In my opinion, you at average. I doubt your BMW is in the 18-25 range either.

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over a year ago

"Jessica Ennis Hill proof if ever there was that having children is no excuse for letting ones body go... Discuss!"

I've no kids...having said that I've never tried to make excuses for my body shape because I don't understand what I'd be trying to excuse? Yes I'm fat, yes I like food...and?!

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

Nothing against Jess but there are plenty of lovely women with curves on her that I'd rather have fun with. If only they'd let me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chris Froome, Sir Bradley Wiggins - two examples of extreme male fitness. Now when you pop down your local boozer this afternoon - are all the men who are there looking fantastic as a proportion of them will be fathers?

I agree Jess Ennis is a supreme dedicated athlete. Gifted too. However, she would approach talking to other women about losing weight and feeling good about themselves in a different way to this thread.

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over a year ago

There is a middle ground. As a society are national health service is collapsing, in part because of people's bad live style choices.

So what does this discussion say about me...?

Are you not reading the responses critical of your attitude?

Your live style (sic) choices are not to be a pro athlete so who are you to criticise *literally every other person who isn't* and fails to maintain a level of fitness equivalent to JEH?

It's hypocritical in the extreme and your expectations of the work a mother does are clearly massively out of proportion with the reality.

I'm a working dad doing 25hrs a week and I look after our pre-schooler and am a house husband the rest of the time so I understand the effort in doing all of this but you know what?

I didn't have to carry the sproglet for months, having my body change shape and then go through the trauma of childbirth.

The "attack" on your body? A throwaway joke that appealed in the moment. Don't think too much on it. It's a perfectly normal body for an average early 30s male. Nothing to be ashamed of."

Well said

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By *ob198Xa OP Man
over a year ago

teleford

As I have said many times already. I don't really expect people to professional sports star fitness. That takes more time than most people can find, myself included. There is a middle ground.

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over a year ago

"As I have said many times already. I don't really expect people to professional sports star fitness. That takes more time than most people can find, myself included. There is a middle ground."

So your point is ?

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By *P2903Couple
over a year ago

Rotherham

"As I have said many times already. I don't really expect people to professional sports star fitness. That takes more time than most people can find, myself included. There is a middle ground."

Some people lack the resources to hit *your* definition of a middle ground (which, based on human psychology and the myth of the average will be your level plus or minus a few percentiles). Time, energy, money, motivation, mental wellness. The list goes on. In would be great if everyone could be fit, yes. It would also be great if we could provide the resources above to those struggling rather than write them off as lazy.

I've been depressed and I know what a total motivation killer it is. I put a lot of weight on. I found a method and motivation that works for me but I don't expect everyone else to be lucky enough to have the right confluence of events that will allow them to right their listing health-ship.

It is better to offer support and kudos to the efforts each person is able to make, not chastise them for failing to live up the arbitrary standards you have set. When they are ready to make a positive change they will, where I have the chance to encourage that I will. Carrot, not stick (or chips

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over a year ago

"As I have said many times already. I don't really expect people to professional sports star fitness. That takes more time than most people can find, myself included. There is a middle ground."

You've not given birth so what's your excuse for not looking like an athlete? Because you can put "athletic" all you want but we can all see that might be an embellishment!

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over a year ago

"Chris Froome, Sir Bradley Wiggins - two examples of extreme male fitness. Now when you pop down your local boozer this afternoon - are all the men who are there looking fantastic as a proportion of them will be fathers?

Are you having a dig at my washboard ab?

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over a year ago

"As I have said many times already. I don't really expect people to professional sports star fitness. That takes more time than most people can find, myself included. There is a middle ground.

This !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you having a dig at my washboard ab?

Your feet look fit as fuck!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When one considers that her livelihood is made from competitive athletics, one would argue she has no choice but to return to shape.

Not all women can, not all women want to. Allow them to choose what suits them without feeling as though the have to because someone says 'there's no excuse not to'"

I didn't bother reading the rest of the thread. No point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does anyone know why threads on weight issues always gets women pissed off? But lads seem to not give a shit, Im confused here...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh well, that's that one done with. Yay!

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