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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Does anyone use herbal remedies and do they work? I have an Echinacea infusion everyday and hardly ever get a cold, when I do it's just a snuffle that goes within a day or two, various others have worked for me, having said that I feel some do not. What's your experience?

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

And I thought this would be a smoking thread .....

Jo x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"And I thought this would be a smoking thread .....

Jo x"

Sorry to raise your hopes. Cannabis oil is supposed to be good though, that counts, not the same I know, but best I can do for you.

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

I've heard it's good for your joints .

Jo x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've heard it's good for your joints .

Jo x"

I've got two Autistic kids and read reports of it being helpful, unsure what it could do for Autism, still researching it. It's being pushed as a new wonder herb, for cancer as well as other things, just need to see some solid evidence to be sure it's not making someone super rich.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Some herbal remedies, prescribed by someone in whom the patient has trust, may well appear to make the patient feel better.

It has nothing to do with the 'medicine'.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some herbal remedies, prescribed by someone in whom the patient has trust, may well appear to make the patient feel better.

It has nothing to do with the 'medicine'."

Not sure I agree with that, some people can get a placebo effect from them, but that can be said for a lot of medicines. I looked into Echinacea for myself, and it seems to have worked for the past 13 years. I feel Herbs are part of an overall system, diet, exercise and emotional wellbeing are also important. Some one who is stressed all the time and sits alone all day eating doughnuts is going to fare less than someone who eats well, gets exercise and has emotion support from family and friends. The whole of a persons life needs changing, herbs are a small part of that.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

If echinacea (or any of the others) worked, Smith Klein Beecham or Roche or ........... would have a patent on it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If echinacea (or any of the others) worked, Smith Klein Beecham or Roche or ........... would have a patent on it."

They can't because we can grow them ourselves and pick some in the wild, that's why they put herbalism down and promote their own expensive drugs in their place.

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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago

Northampton


"I've heard it's good for your joints .

Jo x"

*sniggers*

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester


"And I thought this would be a smoking thread .....

Jo x"

Lol that's what J thought too

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've heard it's good for your joints .

Jo x

*sniggers* "

Can't believe I didn't get that, to late to delete my comment now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm currently taking a tincture prescribed by the Herbal Medicines department at Lincoln College. It tastes rank and is expensive but I'll try anything to get better. I've had M.E. / Fibromyalgia for 15 years. I've tried almost everything but nothing has done anything for me long term.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Some herbal remedies, prescribed by someone in whom the patient has trust, may well appear to make the patient feel better.

It has nothing to do with the 'medicine'."

What utter twaddle, do you mean homeopathy by any chance, because many, many herbs have been rigorously investigated by scientific methods and their various levels of efficacy reported in peer reviewed journals, you can just look them up on PubMed.

Chinese medicinal herbalism particularly employs some powerful herbs, and many modern medicines are developed from natural sources, eg the classic aspirin from willow bark.

There is everything under the sun from anti-inflammatories to vasiodilators in the herbal materi medica.

Sheesh, even plain old garlic has been shown in studies to be more effective than tetracycline at killing some types of gut bacteria!

Oh and BTW echinacea is supposed to be of benefit during an infection, not to prevent it. For that you would use a general adaptogen such as Ashwaganda or Ginseng.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm currently taking a tincture prescribed by the Herbal Medicines department at Lincoln College. It tastes rank and is expensive but I'll try anything to get better. I've had M.E. / Fibromyalgia for 15 years. I've tried almost everything but nothing has done anything for me long term. "

Sorry to hear that, do you know what's in the tincture?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm currently taking a tincture prescribed by the Herbal Medicines department at Lincoln College. It tastes rank and is expensive but I'll try anything to get better. I've had M.E. / Fibromyalgia for 15 years. I've tried almost everything but nothing has done anything for me long term.

Sorry to hear that, do you know what's in the tincture?"

A whole list of things! I take 5ml, three times a day and have a little toddler tantrum about it each time. Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some herbal remedies, prescribed by someone in whom the patient has trust, may well appear to make the patient feel better.

It has nothing to do with the 'medicine'.

What utter twaddle, do you mean homeopathy by any chance, because many, many herbs have been rigorously investigated by scientific methods and their various levels of efficacy reported in peer reviewed journals, you can just look them up on PubMed.

Chinese medicinal herbalism particularly employs some powerful herbs, and many modern medicines are developed from natural sources, eg the classic aspirin from willow bark.

There is everything under the sun from anti-inflammatories to vasiodilators in the herbal materi medica.

Sheesh, even plain old garlic has been shown in studies to be more effective than tetracycline at killing some types of gut bacteria!

Oh and BTW echinacea is supposed to be of benefit during an infection, not to prevent it. For that you would use a general adaptogen such as Ashwaganda or Ginseng."

Works for me

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Snake oil, or the belief in snake oil, works for some folk.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm currently taking a tincture prescribed by the Herbal Medicines department at Lincoln College. It tastes rank and is expensive but I'll try anything to get better. I've had M.E. / Fibromyalgia for 15 years. I've tried almost everything but nothing has done anything for me long term.

Sorry to hear that, do you know what's in the tincture?

A whole list of things! I take 5ml, three times a day and have a little toddler tantrum about it each time. Lol"

Hope it helps you, please let me know how you get on with it, have you ever been prescribed Ginseng?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Snake oil, or the belief in snake oil, works for some folk."

We're not talking about " snake oil", we're talking about remedies used for thousands of years before modern medicine came in to effect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I do. I use a mix of 75 different herbs mixed together, it makes you awake for 9hrs +, its called vital greens

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes I do. I use a mix of 75 different herbs mixed together, it makes you awake for 9hrs +, its called vital greens "

Most food plants have a herbal classification, have you heard of the Chinese food system used for medicine?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I take Echinacea and vit c at the first sign of a sniffle works better than anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes I do. I use a mix of 75 different herbs mixed together, it makes you awake for 9hrs +, its called vital greens

Most food plants have a herbal classification, have you heard of the Chinese food system used for medicine?"

That's right most of them do and no didn't know they used Chinese for medicine, anyone we know?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope it works, i'm trying stinky tea tree oil on my verrucas as a last resort before i chop my foot off.

We don't know why placebos work for some people, we have an idea but no actual proof.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes I do. I use a mix of 75 different herbs mixed together, it makes you awake for 9hrs +, its called vital greens

Most food plants have a herbal classification, have you heard of the Chinese food system used for medicine?That's right most of them do and no didn't know they used Chinese for medicine, anyone we know?."

Tee Hee, Daverick Leggett wrote some books on the subject, interesting stuff and again, some worked, some haven't, got a cook book to get through. It gives recipes for driving cold, damp, hot etc conditions from the body. Like I said in an earlier comment , it's part of an overall system.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I take Echinacea and vit c at the first sign of a sniffle works better than anything "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes I do. I use a mix of 75 different herbs mixed together, it makes you awake for 9hrs +, its called vital greens

Most food plants have a herbal classification, have you heard of the Chinese food system used for medicine?That's right most of them do and no didn't know they used Chinese for medicine, anyone we know?.

Tee Hee, Daverick Leggett wrote some books on the subject, interesting stuff and again, some worked, some haven't, got a cook book to get through. It gives recipes for driving cold, damp, hot etc conditions from the body. Like I said in an earlier comment , it's part of an overall system."

I see yes and that's good the Chinese are well known for all their healthy medicine aint they and food as well for healthy living. Good recipes they got as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watch Trust me, I'm a doctor, on bbc iPlayer.

They tested various herbal remedies. Result? Trust only those with a THR certification on the product. Price is no guarantee on whether there is actually any of the herb in the contents, but you can rely on THR.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Watch Trust me, I'm a doctor, on bbc iPlayer.

They tested various herbal remedies. Result? Trust only those with a THR certification on the product. Price is no guarantee on whether there is actually any of the herb in the contents, but you can rely on THR."

Thanks, I'll have a look at that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes I do. I use a mix of 75 different herbs mixed together, it makes you awake for 9hrs +, its called vital greens

Most food plants have a herbal classification, have you heard of the Chinese food system used for medicine?That's right most of them do and no didn't know they used Chinese for medicine, anyone we know?.

Tee Hee, Daverick Leggett wrote some books on the subject, interesting stuff and again, some worked, some haven't, got a cook book to get through. It gives recipes for driving cold, damp, hot etc conditions from the body. Like I said in an earlier comment , it's part of an overall system.I see yes and that's good the Chinese are well known for all their healthy medicine aint they and food as well for healthy living. Good recipes they got as well. "

The chinese and Japanese have some really good systems for living, including diet, social support systems and Martial Arts, shame that they are starting to use a lot of western alternatives. The Japanese island of Okinawa has less cancer and heart disease than anywhere else in the world, and I mean seriously low, but that started to rise with the appearance of Mc Donald's and their various western ilk.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Although most alternative therapies (homeopathy, ear candles etc) are a huge amount of hokum, herbalism has been proven again and again to work. Aspirin is derived from willow bark, morphine from poppies. Even the programmes set up to discredit alternative therapies tend to leave herbalism alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't use them for myself but i do give them to my horses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Damn, thought this was about mary jane

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don't use them for myself but i do give them to my horses. "

My sister is big on Animal herbalism, an old chap at the allotment gives his horses dandelion leaves for headache, have you heard of that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Damn, thought this was about mary jane"

You lot are terrible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint pain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't use them for myself but i do give them to my horses.

My sister is big on Animal herbalism, an old chap at the allotment gives his horses dandelion leaves for headache, have you heard of that?"

Genuine silly question. How do you know if a horse has a headache?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I don't use them for myself but i do give them to my horses.

My sister is big on Animal herbalism, an old chap at the allotment gives his horses dandelion leaves for headache, have you heard of that?"

What would make someone think their house had a headache?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The basis of so much modern orthodox medicine has a history of herbal remedies . Up until a hundred years ago there wasn't much else available other than herbs .

Having been involved for over 30 years I feel I can say they work , and not just on a placebo level , providing they are genuine and not just crap purchased off the internet .

It's an extremely narrow mind which suggests snake oil and herbal medicine in the same breath . I wouldn't even entertain conversation with that attitude present .

Creams , poultices , teas , tinctures , tablets and capsules have provided help us since we first established ourselves on the planet . And will continue to do so . Opiates , taxol , aspirin , charcoal , to name but a few current lifesaving medicines with a plant based active ingredient .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'll ask him that one, sharper minds than mine here, good point, hope he wasn't taking the piss out of me, lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The basis of so much modern orthodox medicine has a history of herbal remedies . Up until a hundred years ago there wasn't much else available other than herbs .

Having been involved for over 30 years I feel I can say they work , and not just on a placebo level , providing they are genuine and not just crap purchased off the internet .

It's an extremely narrow mind which suggests snake oil and herbal medicine in the same breath . I wouldn't even entertain conversation with that attitude present .

Creams , poultices , teas , tinctures , tablets and capsules have provided help us since we first established ourselves on the planet . And will continue to do so . Opiates , taxol , aspirin , charcoal , to name but a few current lifesaving medicines with a plant based active ingredient .

"

Spot on. Do you feel that their commercialisation doesn't help, like with Feng Shui, which has some very strong foundation in Chinese Geomancy, has become commercial and less believable due to the way it's presented.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I don't use them for myself but i do give them to my horses.

My sister is big on Animal herbalism, an old chap at the allotment gives his horses dandelion leaves for headache, have you heard of that?

What would make someone think their house had a headache?"

Groaning roof, painful windows, that sort of thing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don't use them for myself but i do give them to my horses.

My sister is big on Animal herbalism, an old chap at the allotment gives his horses dandelion leaves for headache, have you heard of that?

What would make someone think their house had a headache?

Groaning roof, painful windows, that sort of thing? "

Have you been on Mary Jane?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get a lot of problems with post waxing/epilating/shaving and have just tested an Aloe Vera product and it's working wonders but it's so expensive I can't afford to buy any

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint pain"
I wonder what part of the plant you use and how its processed, because toxins Could be present in such plants. Borage is another plant with blue flowers that has herbal propertys unless you know What you are doing with such plants you need to be careful in what you do.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Ooops!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I get a lot of problems with post waxing/epilating/shaving and have just tested an Aloe Vera product and it's working wonders but it's so expensive I can't afford to buy any "

I buy Aloe Vera from H&B, got two in their penny sale, it's good for after shaving as a moisturiser, £9.99 a throw is a bit steep, but it lasts me ages. I can see it would cost a lot for larger parts of the body. You can grow your own in the home, but you need quite a few plants for a steady supply.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I get a lot of problems with post waxing/epilating/shaving and have just tested an Aloe Vera product and it's working wonders but it's so expensive I can't afford to buy any "

Aloe Vera has a mass of excellent research on it's medicinal properties. Can you not afford the £10 Holland and Barret version? As long as they sport the Aloe Science Council trademark the quality should be OK.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ooops! "

We all do it, lol, I just don't like being a grammar Nazi, anyway, I'm the one who believes horses can talk, top that!

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint pain"
Also feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days. "

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Ooops!

We all do it, lol, I just don't like being a grammar Nazi, anyway, I'm the one who believes horses can talk, top that! "

Oh horses are very clear about a lot of things, but I've never known one with a headache unless it was secondary to something. Anyway, dandelion would not be likely to fix it I don't think, it doesn't have that kind of action, it's more metabolic.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months."

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently."

I've used it for neuralgia in the past, but reading about it made stop. Wanted to be more certain with that one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ooops!

We all do it, lol, I just don't like being a grammar Nazi, anyway, I'm the one who believes horses can talk, top that!

Oh horses are very clear about a lot of things, but I've never known one with a headache unless it was secondary to something. Anyway, dandelion would not be likely to fix it I don't think, it doesn't have that kind of action, it's more metabolic. "

He's probably pissing himself thinking about me now, I'll have words with him.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ooops!

We all do it, lol, I just don't like being a grammar Nazi, anyway, I'm the one who believes horses can talk, top that!

Oh horses are very clear about a lot of things, but I've never known one with a headache unless it was secondary to something. Anyway, dandelion would not be likely to fix it I don't think, it doesn't have that kind of action, it's more metabolic. "

It's a diuretic isn't it? that's how it got the name " wet the bed".

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently."

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Ooops!

We all do it, lol, I just don't like being a grammar Nazi, anyway, I'm the one who believes horses can talk, top that!

Oh horses are very clear about a lot of things, but I've never known one with a headache unless it was secondary to something. Anyway, dandelion would not be likely to fix it I don't think, it doesn't have that kind of action, it's more metabolic.

It's a diuretic isn't it? that's how it got the name " wet the bed"."

It is yes, and was showing some preliminary results in regard to diabetes research if I recall correctly. But the chinese herbs are often way way stronger than western.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ooops!

We all do it, lol, I just don't like being a grammar Nazi, anyway, I'm the one who believes horses can talk, top that!

Oh horses are very clear about a lot of things, but I've never known one with a headache unless it was secondary to something. Anyway, dandelion would not be likely to fix it I don't think, it doesn't have that kind of action, it's more metabolic.

It's a diuretic isn't it? that's how it got the name " wet the bed".

It is yes, and was showing some preliminary results in regard to diabetes research if I recall correctly. But the chinese herbs are often way way stronger than western."

Do you mean a different variety or more concentrated?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol"

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Ooops!

We all do it, lol, I just don't like being a grammar Nazi, anyway, I'm the one who believes horses can talk, top that!

Oh horses are very clear about a lot of things, but I've never known one with a headache unless it was secondary to something. Anyway, dandelion would not be likely to fix it I don't think, it doesn't have that kind of action, it's more metabolic.

It's a diuretic isn't it? that's how it got the name " wet the bed".

It is yes, and was showing some preliminary results in regard to diabetes research if I recall correctly. But the chinese herbs are often way way stronger than western.

Do you mean a different variety or more concentrated?"

Much more potent, and yes, different plants too, they can blow your socks off!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We use milk thistle before a heavy night out to prevent hangovers, works a treat

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol! "

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

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"We use milk thistle before a heavy night out to prevent hangovers, works a treat"

Huh, who knew, makes sense, it is a liver protectant that prevents damage from some toxins - I wonder if it's been tested on alcohol!?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ooops!

We all do it, lol, I just don't like being a grammar Nazi, anyway, I'm the one who believes horses can talk, top that!

Oh horses are very clear about a lot of things, but I've never known one with a headache unless it was secondary to something. Anyway, dandelion would not be likely to fix it I don't think, it doesn't have that kind of action, it's more metabolic.

It's a diuretic isn't it? that's how it got the name " wet the bed".

It is yes, and was showing some preliminary results in regard to diabetes research if I recall correctly. But the chinese herbs are often way way stronger than western.

Do you mean a different variety or more concentrated?

Much more potent, and yes, different plants too, they can blow your socks off!"

I had some herbs from a chinese herbalist and could recognise some of the ingredients, Angelica was one, I didn't realise they were different forms.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

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"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good. "

Don't worry, the wobbling improves the balance over time!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We use milk thistle before a heavy night out to prevent hangovers, works a treat"

That would get a lot of people interested in herbalism.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

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"Ooops!

We all do it, lol, I just don't like being a grammar Nazi, anyway, I'm the one who believes horses can talk, top that!

Oh horses are very clear about a lot of things, but I've never known one with a headache unless it was secondary to something. Anyway, dandelion would not be likely to fix it I don't think, it doesn't have that kind of action, it's more metabolic.

It's a diuretic isn't it? that's how it got the name " wet the bed".

It is yes, and was showing some preliminary results in regard to diabetes research if I recall correctly. But the chinese herbs are often way way stronger than western.

Do you mean a different variety or more concentrated?

Much more potent, and yes, different plants too, they can blow your socks off!

I had some herbs from a chinese herbalist and could recognise some of the ingredients, Angelica was one, I didn't realise they were different forms."

Oh yea, totally different species mostly, thousands of them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good.

Don't worry, the wobbling improves the balance over time! "

Just made me laugh when they popped up after that post, lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good.

Don't worry, the wobbling improves the balance over time!

Just made me laugh when they popped up after that post, lol "

I used Korean Ginseng when feeling out of sorts, it definitely works, but not with constant use, once I'm up again I stop using it until I need it again. I was recommended Korean as it is more Yang energy, Siberian is yin and more suitable for women, I presume the rest are somewhere in between.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

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"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good.

Don't worry, the wobbling improves the balance over time!

Just made me laugh when they popped up after that post, lol

I used Korean Ginseng when feeling out of sorts, it definitely works, but not with constant use, once I'm up again I stop using it until I need it again. I was recommended Korean as it is more Yang energy, Siberian is yin and more suitable for women, I presume the rest are somewhere in between. "

Yup Panax Ginseng is a classic example, a lot of people cannot take it, it gives them palpitations etc, can tip horses over into laminitis. Ashwaganda is a gentler adaptogen, or the modern JiaGuLan.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

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"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good.

Don't worry, the wobbling improves the balance over time!

Just made me laugh when they popped up after that post, lol

I used Korean Ginseng when feeling out of sorts, it definitely works, but not with constant use, once I'm up again I stop using it until I need it again. I was recommended Korean as it is more Yang energy, Siberian is yin and more suitable for women, I presume the rest are somewhere in between.

Yup Panax Ginseng is a classic example, a lot of people cannot take it, it gives them palpitations etc, can tip horses over into laminitis. Ashwaganda is a gentler adaptogen, or the modern JiaGuLan."

JaoGuLan

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

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"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good.

Don't worry, the wobbling improves the balance over time!

Just made me laugh when they popped up after that post, lol

I used Korean Ginseng when feeling out of sorts, it definitely works, but not with constant use, once I'm up again I stop using it until I need it again. I was recommended Korean as it is more Yang energy, Siberian is yin and more suitable for women, I presume the rest are somewhere in between.

Yup Panax Ginseng is a classic example, a lot of people cannot take it, it gives them palpitations etc, can tip horses over into laminitis. Ashwaganda is a gentler adaptogen, or the modern JiaGuLan.

JaoGuLan"

Ah ffs - it's JiaoGuLan!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good.

Don't worry, the wobbling improves the balance over time!

Just made me laugh when they popped up after that post, lol

I used Korean Ginseng when feeling out of sorts, it definitely works, but not with constant use, once I'm up again I stop using it until I need it again. I was recommended Korean as it is more Yang energy, Siberian is yin and more suitable for women, I presume the rest are somewhere in between.

Yup Panax Ginseng is a classic example, a lot of people cannot take it, it gives them palpitations etc, can tip horses over into laminitis. Ashwaganda is a gentler adaptogen, or the modern JiaGuLan.

JaoGuLan"

Is Panax the chinese ginseng?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

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"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good.

Don't worry, the wobbling improves the balance over time!

Just made me laugh when they popped up after that post, lol

I used Korean Ginseng when feeling out of sorts, it definitely works, but not with constant use, once I'm up again I stop using it until I need it again. I was recommended Korean as it is more Yang energy, Siberian is yin and more suitable for women, I presume the rest are somewhere in between.

Yup Panax Ginseng is a classic example, a lot of people cannot take it, it gives them palpitations etc, can tip horses over into laminitis. Ashwaganda is a gentler adaptogen, or the modern JiaGuLan.

JaoGuLan

Is Panax the chinese ginseng?"

Yup Chinese/Korean/Red as opposed to Siberian or American. Ashwaganda is known as Indian Ginseng, and JiaoGuLan is kinda in between the two and it's not in the old TCM system.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Lavender for sleep but NOT if you are pregnant. All of the above mention do work very well. Amother member of the willow family is the lovely little plant Feverfew. Make a tea from it and off goes the pain, particularly good for headaches and joint painAlso feverfew has propertys that can make women miscarriage their unborn, feverfew is a common plant here, but you always Need to be cautious or careful with wild plants, the monks would have had some knowledge about such things here In medievil days.

Some do have side effects, St Johns Wort can't be used with certain meds, and can cause cataracts in large quantities, which is interesting because it's used to prevent SAD in the winter months.

Yea, it can cause extreme photosensitivity and severe sunburn too, though it is approved by the German 'NHS' for the treatment of mild depression and millions are prescribed it apparently.

BTW madame, have you looked at my post called " What on Earth", and changed you pic by any chance, lol

It was coincidental I assure you - besides, recent research shows men live longer if they stare at boobs for 10 mins a day! lol!

But they make my knees wobble, that can't be good.

Don't worry, the wobbling improves the balance over time!

Just made me laugh when they popped up after that post, lol

I used Korean Ginseng when feeling out of sorts, it definitely works, but not with constant use, once I'm up again I stop using it until I need it again. I was recommended Korean as it is more Yang energy, Siberian is yin and more suitable for women, I presume the rest are somewhere in between.

Yup Panax Ginseng is a classic example, a lot of people cannot take it, it gives them palpitations etc, can tip horses over into laminitis. Ashwaganda is a gentler adaptogen, or the modern JiaGuLan.

JaoGuLan

Is Panax the chinese ginseng?

Yup Chinese/Korean/Red as opposed to Siberian or American. Ashwaganda is known as Indian Ginseng, and JiaoGuLan is kinda in between the two and it's not in the old TCM system."

Glad you came on here, learning quite a bit, thanks, off to shave my barnet now, I come from your neck of the woods originally, old phrases die hard, lol, TBC X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Apologies for failing to mention the adverse effects of feverfew.

I think what has been brought out is that you have to do some homework before taking these sometimes powerful drugs. There is noqualified GP to guide you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spent £50 at H&B Whoops

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Spent £50 at H&B Whoops "

Easy to do, wobbly legs at the till, lol

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

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"Spent £50 at H&B Whoops "

Haha what on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't had a cold for some 45 years now.

I highly recommend Haddock and Chips, no scraps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aloe drink, aloe concentrated cream, spirulina xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Aloe drink, aloe concentrated cream, spirulina xxx"

I have spirulina everyday in my wheatgrass cocktail

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