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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

During my drive to work one morning the topic of discussion on radio Oxford was about disabled places on buses.

it seems some mums were taking up the spaces for their buggies. They're saying trying to carry shopping plus a toddler with a buggy is too much to try and fold so they use the spaces thereby leaving disabled passenger to wait for the next bus as there is no space available.

So fabbers who in your opinion should have the priority?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Disabled, wheelchair users should have priority.

They don't have a choice about being disabled or a wheelchair user.

Mums, however, ...........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On our buses mums are allowed to use the spaces but must move if a wheelchair or someone needing space more than them get on which I think is fair

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By *tretchygirl and tintinWoman
over a year ago

Dartford


"On our buses mums are allowed to use the spaces but must move if a wheelchair or someone needing space more than them get on which I think is fair "

I agree with this. It's the same in Brighton; wheelchair users have priority

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston


"On our buses mums are allowed to use the spaces but must move if a wheelchair or someone needing space more than them get on which I think is fair

I agree with this. It's the same in Brighton; wheelchair users have priority "

Surely having a child gives the parents automatic priority over everyone else regardless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any bus I have seen says the wheelchair area must be vacated if required!

Sorry but its the mums choice to have the shopping etc they could always take a back pack to put shopping in and then be able to fold up the buggy.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

If it's a disabled space the disabled have priority.

We need to cater for mums too. There should be a buggy space.

I couldn't get my children on the bus I had twins with a twin buggy. We walked to railway stations.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I never carry shopping. The internet brings the supermarket to me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

One woman came on said there were other buses she was there first surely the guy can wait! ! I lost my temper and started shouting at my car radio lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On our buses mums are allowed to use the spaces but must move if a wheelchair or someone needing space more than them get on which I think is fair "

Same with ours.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"On our buses mums are allowed to use the spaces but must move if a wheelchair or someone needing space more than them get on which I think is fair "

Seems fair to me!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"If it's a disabled space the disabled have priority.

We need to cater for mums too. There should be a buggy space.

I couldn't get my children on the bus I had twins with a twin buggy. We walked to railway stations."

The London old route master buses weren't designed for anyone but the able bodied when I had young children, so getting them on wasn't an option.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I never carry shopping. The internet brings the supermarket to me. "

Woman after my own heart, especially as Tesco only charge £1 to deliver.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

I think mums with prams and disabled users should be treated equally. So the reserved seats should be a first come first served basis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The disabled person has the right the space has been reserved for them to use.

Yes it's difficult at times juggling babies, pushchairs and shopping but it's manageable as an able bodied person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think mums with prams and disabled users should be treated equally. So the reserved seats should be a first come first served basis "

Why? The woman chooses to have the baby & take them out and if that was the case with the amount of buggys brought on a bus a disabled person who doesnt choose to be in the chair who could then have to wait hours for a bus with a free space. Buggys fold down for a reason

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By *onbons_xxMan
over a year ago

Bolton

People need to grow some manners along with a dose of common sense. I've had to ask people to give up their seat for people on crutches/walking stick etc, it doesn't make me a saint but the blasé nature to others I find weird.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On our buses mums are allowed to use the spaces but must move if a wheelchair or someone needing space more than them get on which I think is fair

Seems fair to me! "

It is a fair way.

What does take the piss is everyone on the bus tutting at you because you are taking too long to fold up your pushchair while trying to juggle a nappy bag, a hand bag whatever little shopping you have while trying not to drop a baby.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Can't you put some spaces upstairs for the wheelchairs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can't you put some spaces upstairs for the wheelchairs? "

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

wasnt this recently contested in court by a disabled wheelchair user and i think he lost?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Can't you put some spaces upstairs for the wheelchairs? "

I was thinking roof benches.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"wasnt this recently contested in court by a disabled wheelchair user and i think he lost?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-30376446

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

see the problem with the law is that it says "requested to move" not "required to move"

their was a court case a wheelchair user won because a bus driver said he couldn't force a lady to move from the space, and she refused to move because they child was sleeping in buggy

this was then reversed in the high court.... hence "requested" not "required"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So. Should the driver intervene and make the choice?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"So. Should the driver intervene and make the choice?"

he can "request"... but the person is not "required" to.... thats the problem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I loved taking my young kids on the buses in wigan. You'd always get at least two women taking your babies off your hands to help you and they'd grab your toddler so he could sit down safely too.

Buses might need to arrange some better service for disabled people and mums so that it works for all of them?

Disabled people are more likely to not be able to be removed from their wheelchair i reckon, so should get priority for those spaces. I think it shouldn't be expected that children (and there parents) always come first and are a priority when they are mostly just an inconvenience for a short time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the biggest problems with people on buses round here are the elderly with shopping trollies they always sit in spaces allocated for wheelchairs and pushchairs and refuse to move

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

Think some of those in wheel chairs are the most ignorant people you can come across its hard for them but they go to fast and wont give an inch when there on the pavement just fly round blind corners you can not hear them when there behind you

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend


"I think mums with prams and disabled users should be treated equally. So the reserved seats should be a first come first served basis

Why? The woman chooses to have the baby & take them out and if that was the case with the amount of buggys brought on a bus a disabled person who doesnt choose to be in the chair who could then have to wait hours for a bus with a free space. Buggys fold down for a reason "
if the woman's happy to fold and stow the buggy and cope with the child .. She should not take the disabled seat in the first place .. If the kids too young to do all that safely she should be offered that space as long as a disabled person isn't already occupying it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On our buses mums are allowed to use the spaces but must move if a wheelchair or someone needing space more than them get on which I think is fair

I agree with this. It's the same in Brighton; wheelchair users have priority "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The pushchair owners have the option of walking don't they ?

Just turf them off the bus if the won't move. Or a collective booing might embarrass them into moving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One woman came on said there were other buses she was there first surely the guy can wait! ! I lost my temper and started shouting at my car radio lol"

god forbid would she be spouting that if her child or parent ever became wheelchair bound.

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