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"Lightweights were made in Series 2 and 3. Only sold to the military. Very basic but some of the best driving fun possible!!" Posibly I'm confusing it with the engine then as im sure that was a 2.25 little. Mine was an ex radio car still had the gun mounts in the back. As i said ither that the 17 to the gal i loved the old thing and have some very found memerys if you exclude pushing the fucker to a garage every time it run dry | |||
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"Not into Off-roaders. Prefer my sports cars" Had most but find em boring now as you'll need to have spent a few quid to beat me mwhahaha | |||
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"Got a modified Discovery I use for greenlaneing. had some good days out. and use my Cosworth for my speed fix. " Which cosy ? | |||
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"Got a modified 90 3.9v8 109series3 3.9v8 Series1 3.5v8 Can you tell I love v8s?? Lols" You can't beat the V8 on my 4th now | |||
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"Lightweights were made in Series 2 and 3. Only sold to the military. Very basic but some of the best driving fun possible!!" can attest to that.. | |||
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"How does a perfectly ordinary Land Rover thread deteriorate into a 'my dick's bigger than yours' in just a few posts?" Easy the dick can't help but post  | |||
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"Not into Off-roaders. Prefer my sports cars Had most but find em boring now as you'll need to have spent a few quid to beat me mwhahaha" I don't go for the norm though. Won't buy anything European or Japanese. Perhaps I should have said Muscle Cars instead. Of the American variety. Next one does 0-60 in 5.5 seconds stock. That's good enough for me | |||
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"Not into Off-roaders. Prefer my sports cars Had most but find em boring now as you'll need to have spent a few quid to beat me mwhahaha I don't go for the norm though. Won't buy anything European or Japanese. Perhaps I should have said Muscle Cars instead. Of the American variety. Next one does 0-60 in 5.5 seconds stock. That's good enough for me "I prefer under 3 | |||
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"I've had a series 2a ( which I took to Denmark and drove on the sea when it froze over), Series 3 swb derv and Series 3 lwb safari. Three Range Rovers, one 1977 and two 1983, still have one,it was the first with the Lt77 5 speed gearbox and was used by the press such as Autocar. Nowadays, other than the Range Rover which is off the road with sill rot,the missus has a Freelander which she loves, I have a Isuzu Bighorn and a 1956 Bedford RL. " How bigs your drive  | |||
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"Discovery 2 here... goes all over the place! "You need to get that steering sorted then | |||
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"Any Land rover drivers on here or anyone into offroad ?" Built them, fixed them, love them, drive them...always. From Series, through to Range Rover...always have a LR for getting to places where lesser vehicles fear to tread...in style
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" They can always be repaired.. It takes a lot to kill one off." There's seldom anything a blacksmith can't fix or a part be found in a field. | |||
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"You need Landy zone, nots Fabs! I've had a 109, 110 county defender, Disco's and currently A Gay lander. I have killed, 4, the 109, big end, 1 disco run into the ground, 1 disco clutch, 1 disco went BANG! Love my gay lander now thou. x " Maybe we can set up a Swingers Corner at the next annual meet
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"Any Land rover drivers on here or anyone into offroad ?" When I die I want to be buried in a Land Rover.. they've got me out of so many holes in the past......... | |||
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"Any Land rover drivers on here or anyone into offroad ?" I build them and wouldn't own one! | |||
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"P38s are quite good value at the moment if you can find a good one. I expect Discovery 3s will soon go the same way as they are horrific to work on." 100,000 mile service.....keep away! | |||
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" But as the only car meets I've done have been spur of the moment, they happened in my smart car." How the hell do you have any fun in a smart car? | |||
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" But as the only car meets I've done have been spur of the moment, they happened in my smart car. How the hell do you have any fun in a smart car? " Easily.......... I had loads of fun in mine!!! | |||
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"Any Land rover drivers on here or anyone into offroad ?" I want the new RR sport SVR - but will prob have to settle for then3.0 SDV6 engine as I don't have 60k to lose on depreciation in 3 years | |||
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"Any Land rover drivers on here or anyone into offroad ? I want the new RR sport SVR - but will prob have to settle for then3.0 SDV6 engine as I don't have 60k to lose on depreciation in 3 years " Don't try going off road in it then, you will either belly as there is not much ground clearance or spin your tyres fruitlessly with your super slick Road tyres. | |||
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"Love off road in, but I'd rather be on a quad!" I must admit, I can't see the point of quads. All the cons of a bike, all the cons of a car... A bike yes, a car yes but not a quad. I am not knocking you and believe each to their own. Unfortunately round here, they just tend to be riden on the road by groups of middle aged men in a style that wins them no friends... | |||
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"Love off road in, but I'd rather be on a quad! I must admit, I can't see the point of quads. All the cons of a bike, all the cons of a car... A bike yes, a car yes but not a quad. I am not knocking you and believe each to their own. Unfortunately round here, they just tend to be riden on the road by groups of middle aged men in a style that wins them no friends..." I'm hopeless on 2 wheels, quads go pretty much anywhere! I never driven on road, only off, x | |||
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"Love off road in, but I'd rather be on a quad! I must admit, I can't see the point of quads. All the cons of a bike, all the cons of a car... A bike yes, a car yes but not a quad. I am not knocking you and believe each to their own. Unfortunately round here, they just tend to be riden on the road by groups of middle aged men in a style that wins them no friends... I'm hopeless on 2 wheels, quads go pretty much anywhere! I never driven on road, only off, x" Lol... Fair enough...I will admit I can see a point to them off road for work and play but not on road unless the rider has a disability. On a bike you get wet but can get through small gaps. In a car you are warm and dry but sit in traffic. On a quad you get cold and wet sitting in traffic... | |||
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"Love off road in, but I'd rather be on a quad! I must admit, I can't see the point of quads. All the cons of a bike, all the cons of a car... A bike yes, a car yes but not a quad. I am not knocking you and believe each to their own. Unfortunately round here, they just tend to be riden on the road by groups of middle aged men in a style that wins them no friends... I'm hopeless on 2 wheels, quads go pretty much anywhere! I never driven on road, only off, x Lol... Fair enough...I will admit I can see a point to them off road for work and play but not on road unless the rider has a disability. On a bike you get wet but can get through small gaps. In a car you are warm and dry but sit in traffic. On a quad you get cold and wet sitting in traffic... " we have one for yard stuff but it rarely gets used, there isn't alot a pick up can't do | |||
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"Any Land rover drivers on here or anyone into offroad ? I want the new RR sport SVR - but will prob have to settle for then3.0 SDV6 engine as I don't have 60k to lose on depreciation in 3 years Don't try going off road in it then, you will either belly as there is not much ground clearance or spin your tyres fruitlessly with your super slick Road tyres. " I think the RR can handle off road with road tyres | |||
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" But as the only car meets I've done have been spur of the moment, they happened in my smart car. How the hell do you have any fun in a smart car? " Mostly oral. Parked of course. It's surprisingly spacious. | |||
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"Would love 90 2.5 tdi but funds prevent unfortunately "Got one ex military | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker." My land rover is no bigger than a standard car,so how is it clogging the roads up more than a car...what's wrong with voting green while driving a land rover...the things run forever,so the carbon footprint print is far better than most cars on the road today. | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker." I think you are talking about KA's and Micra's... The smaller the car, the more likely it is to be parked in two spaces... The most polluting time in a cars life is its construction. So my 30 year old Land Rover is more environmentally friendly than cars that get replaced every 3 years. The most polluting part of the car is the battery. So overall Prius's are pretty poor when it comes to being green... Toxic green maybe!!! | |||
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"Love off road in, but I'd rather be on a quad! I must admit, I can't see the point of quads. All the cons of a bike, all the cons of a car... A bike yes, a car yes but not a quad. I am not knocking you and believe each to their own. Unfortunately round here, they just tend to be riden on the road by groups of middle aged men in a style that wins them no friends..." Any fule kno that quads are for people who have either - an entire fell/hill to gather on or who have inferior dogs.  | |||
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"Love off road in, but I'd rather be on a quad! I must admit, I can't see the point of quads. All the cons of a bike, all the cons of a car... A bike yes, a car yes but not a quad. I am not knocking you and believe each to their own. Unfortunately round here, they just tend to be riden on the road by groups of middle aged men in a style that wins them no friends... Any fule kno that quads are for people who have either - an entire fell/hill to gather on or who have inferior dogs. "I just like playing around in the mud. | |||
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"I've had about 10 over the years My 'screen-name' partially reflects this Not got one at the moment, but would dearly like another 110Tdi County, or a very late (proper) Range Rover, with a Tdi & 5-speed manual 'box" Yeah gotta be manual | |||
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"Love off road in, but I'd rather be on a quad! I must admit, I can't see the point of quads. All the cons of a bike, all the cons of a car... A bike yes, a car yes but not a quad. I am not knocking you and believe each to their own. Unfortunately round here, they just tend to be riden on the road by groups of middle aged men in a style that wins them no friends... Any fule kno that quads are for people who have either - an entire fell/hill to gather on or who have inferior dogs.
I just like playing around in the mud. "We love it rough and dirty too... | |||
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"I've had about 20 land rovers Current one is a 1990 vogue se range rover love it especial when I'm out and dressed the looks I get are price less." Oohhh Nice!!!! I've driven about 15 Rangies, varying from 1971, up to a L322 TDV8, but a 90's model would do it for me As l wrote further up the page, l want a 300Tdi/manual Rangie | |||
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"when I'm out and dressed the looks I get are price less." Love to see you driving it!! | |||
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"Any Land rover drivers on here or anyone into offroad ? I want the new RR sport SVR - but will prob have to settle for then3.0 SDV6 engine as I don't have 60k to lose on depreciation in 3 years Don't try going off road in it then, you will either belly as there is not much ground clearance or spin your tyres fruitlessly with your super slick Road tyres. I think the RR can handle off road with road tyres " Really?. Would love to see you try. | |||
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"Any Land rover drivers on here or anyone into offroad ? I want the new RR sport SVR - but will prob have to settle for then3.0 SDV6 engine as I don't have 60k to lose on depreciation in 3 years Don't try going off road in it then, you will either belly as there is not much ground clearance or spin your tyres fruitlessly with your super slick Road tyres. I think the RR can handle off road with road tyres " That's what this guy thought
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"I've had about 20 land rovers Current one is a 1990 vogue se range rover love it especial when I'm out and dressed the looks I get are price less. Oohhh Nice!!!! I've driven about 15 Rangies, varying from 1971, up to a L322 TDV8, but a 90's model would do it for me As l wrote further up the page, l want a 300Tdi/manual Rangie" Don't get to excited but my rrc is a 300 with a r380 from a defender. | |||
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"I've had about 20 land rovers Current one is a 1990 vogue se range rover love it especial when I'm out and dressed the looks I get are price less. Oohhh Nice!!!! I've driven about 15 Rangies, varying from 1971, up to a L322 TDV8, but a 90's model would do it for me As l wrote further up the page, l want a 300Tdi/manual Rangie Don't get to excited but my rrc is a 300 with a r380 from a defender. " Yes, that's me excited, by the spec! Almost as excited, as thought of seeing (thinking about) you driving it whilst dressed | |||
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"Is it true they are stopping production of them, or did I misread it. Would love to have one." Only the Defender model...shame,it's the best of them all | |||
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"We had a new disco 8 years ago! We know why they called them a Discovery,because every time you go out in it you never know what vehicle you're coming home in !! Got it all valeted once for a special evening do-broke down for that! Did the same 3 months later. Washed and polished it a year later looking forward to a posh wedding-guess what? Ended up going in the works pick-up ! Broke down with a trailer on-the AA don't like trailers! Not had much luck with ours,we did how ever buy a spare car after 3 years because we got so fed up with it breaking down. A 1994 isuzu trooper with 200,000 miles on it for £360.00 which we use when the £38.000 disco is at the garage.Once it was at the main dealers for 11 weeks and no courtesy car !!! So we have a pick-up (Japanese)a disco ( some of the time) and a spare one (Japanese) between the two of us. When we go on holiday now we always tow the caravan with the Isuzu trooper(No seats in the back)and the rest of the family follow in the pick-up. At least the disco can't break down at home ! OH! hang on a mo did I mention the time ...... So much for British engineering. Sorry to say this though. "I've had the same Defender 90 for the past 20 years as an every day driver and only had 2 mechanical breakdowns 1 was a timing failure. The second was a broken crank shaft in the supposedly bullet proof 300 tdi. So I can't complain about reliability here. | |||
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"We had a new disco 8 years ago! We know why they called them a Discovery,because every time you go out in it you never know what vehicle you're coming home in !! Got it all valeted once for a special evening do-broke down for that! Did the same 3 months later. Washed and polished it a year later looking forward to a posh wedding-guess what? Ended up going in the works pick-up ! Broke down with a trailer on-the AA don't like trailers! Not had much luck with ours,we did how ever buy a spare car after 3 years because we got so fed up with it breaking down. A 1994 isuzu trooper with 200,000 miles on it for £360.00 which we use when the £38.000 disco is at the garage.Once it was at the main dealers for 11 weeks and no courtesy car !!! So we have a pick-up (Japanese)a disco ( some of the time) and a spare one (Japanese) between the two of us. When we go on holiday now we always tow the caravan with the Isuzu trooper(No seats in the back)and the rest of the family follow in the pick-up. At least the disco can't break down at home ! OH! hang on a mo did I mention the time ...... So much for British engineering. Sorry to say this though.
I've had the same Defender 90 for the past 20 years as an every day driver and only had 2 mechanical breakdowns 1 was a timing failure. The second was a broken crank shaft in the supposedly bullet proof 300 tdi. So I can't complain about reliability here."They're pretty major failures though. Was the crank failure on the same engine as the timing failure? If so, they're usually connected and down to the repaired not replacing the crank shells after the previous failure, they just fix the head and think it will work. It doesn't. Like in said previously in the thread. I build them and I wouldn't own a modern LR or RR for all the tea in China. | |||
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"I've had the same Defender 90 for the past 20 years as an every day driver and only had 2 mechanical breakdowns 1 was a timing failure. The second was a broken crank shaft in the supposedly bullet proof 300 tdi. So I can't complain about reliability here. They're pretty major failures though. Was the crank failure on the same engine as the timing failure? If so, they're usually connected and down to the repaired not replacing the crank shells after the previous failure, they just fix the head and think it will work. It doesn't. Like in said previously in the thread. I build them and I wouldn't own a modern LR or RR for all the tea in China." It was indeed the same engine the most surprisng thing was when the crank failed on the web between no.1 pot and the front main bearing the engine still ran on tick over, though a little noisy and I drove the 6 miles home extremely slowly. I'm also not a fan of the newer vehicles with all the electronics, if it breaks I want some chance of fixing it with and adjustable spanner, lump hammer and welding set. | |||
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"I've had the same Defender 90 for the past 20 years as an every day driver and only had 2 mechanical breakdowns 1 was a timing failure. The second was a broken crank shaft in the supposedly bullet proof 300 tdi. So I can't complain about reliability here. They're pretty major failures though. Was the crank failure on the same engine as the timing failure? If so, they're usually connected and down to the repaired not replacing the crank shells after the previous failure, they just fix the head and think it will work. It doesn't. Like in said previously in the thread. I build them and I wouldn't own a modern LR or RR for all the tea in China. It was indeed the same engine the most surprisng thing was when the crank failed on the web between no.1 pot and the front main bearing the engine still ran on tick over, though a little noisy and I drove the 6 miles home extremely slowly. I'm also not a fan of the newer vehicles with all the electronics, if it breaks I want some chance of fixing it with and adjustable spanner, lump hammer and welding set. "Tommys top tip: ALWAYS change the shell bearings after a timing belt failure because if you don't the crank WILL fail. | |||
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"I've had the same Defender 90 for the past 20 years as an every day driver and only had 2 mechanical breakdowns 1 was a timing failure. The second was a broken crank shaft in the supposedly bullet proof 300 tdi. So I can't complain about reliability here. They're pretty major failures though. Was the crank failure on the same engine as the timing failure? If so, they're usually connected and down to the repaired not replacing the crank shells after the previous failure, they just fix the head and think it will work. It doesn't. Like in said previously in the thread. I build them and I wouldn't own a modern LR or RR for all the tea in China. It was indeed the same engine the most surprisng thing was when the crank failed on the web between no.1 pot and the front main bearing the engine still ran on tick over, though a little noisy and I drove the 6 miles home extremely slowly. I'm also not a fan of the newer vehicles with all the electronics, if it breaks I want some chance of fixing it with and adjustable spanner, lump hammer and welding set.
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ALWAYS change the shell bearings after a timing belt failure because if you don't the crank WILL fail. "It wasn't actually a belt failure but an after market timing gear conversion that failed if I'd stuck with keep changing the timing belt it may never have happened but being lazy and thinking it would pay for it's self by not keep having to replace the belt I had the gears fitted, biggest waste of money ever with the landy. | |||
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"I've had the same Defender 90 for the past 20 years as an every day driver and only had 2 mechanical breakdowns 1 was a timing failure. The second was a broken crank shaft in the supposedly bullet proof 300 tdi. So I can't complain about reliability here. They're pretty major failures though. Was the crank failure on the same engine as the timing failure? If so, they're usually connected and down to the repaired not replacing the crank shells after the previous failure, they just fix the head and think it will work. It doesn't. Like in said previously in the thread. I build them and I wouldn't own a modern LR or RR for all the tea in China. It was indeed the same engine the most surprisng thing was when the crank failed on the web between no.1 pot and the front main bearing the engine still ran on tick over, though a little noisy and I drove the 6 miles home extremely slowly. I'm also not a fan of the newer vehicles with all the electronics, if it breaks I want some chance of fixing it with and adjustable spanner, lump hammer and welding set.
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ALWAYS change the shell bearings after a timing belt failure because if you don't the crank WILL fail.
It wasn't actually a belt failure but an after market timing gear conversion that failed if I'd stuck with keep changing the timing belt it may never have happened but being lazy and thinking it would pay for it's self by not keep having to replace the belt I had the gears fitted, biggest waste of money ever with the landy."If Mr Piston introduced himself to Mr Valve it equates to pretty much the same damage. I've seen it happen on so many 'repaired' vehicles. I always advise a shell change, it's only an extra £50 and guarantees you don't spin a shell bearing a couple of months after spending £1500 on a rebuild. | |||
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"Tommys top tip: ALWAYS change the shell bearings after a timing belt failure because if you don't the crank WILL fail. " If you strip an entire engine down to every last nut and bolt, this is always worth doing, be it a high powered motor or just a run about. Sage advice Mr Who | |||
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"I met a guy and fucked him in his.... Was hot lol and it was off road sort of lol "But what kind of landy was it? | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker. I think you are talking about KA's and Micra's... The smaller the car, the more likely it is to be parked in two spaces... The most polluting time in a cars life is its construction. So my 30 year old Land Rover is more environmentally friendly than cars that get replaced every 3 years. The most polluting part of the car is the battery. So overall Prius's are pretty poor when it comes to being green... Toxic green maybe!!!" If you trade in your 3 year old car they don't crush it Someone poorer buys it And it could well last 30 years So your logic is flawed It's just the start of the lifecycle | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker. I think you are talking about KA's and Micra's... The smaller the car, the more likely it is to be parked in two spaces... The most polluting time in a cars life is its construction. So my 30 year old Land Rover is more environmentally friendly than cars that get replaced every 3 years. The most polluting part of the car is the battery. So overall Prius's are pretty poor when it comes to being green... Toxic green maybe!!! If you trade in your 3 year old car they don't crush it Someone poorer buys it And it could well last 30 years So your logic is flawed It's just the start of the lifecycle " The battery which is the most polluting part of the build will not last 30 or anywhere near that long. Cars like the Prius are not built to last anywhere like 30 years either. So my logic is not flawed in any way... | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker. I think you are talking about KA's and Micra's... The smaller the car, the more likely it is to be parked in two spaces... The most polluting time in a cars life is its construction. So my 30 year old Land Rover is more environmentally friendly than cars that get replaced every 3 years. The most polluting part of the car is the battery. So overall Prius's are pretty poor when it comes to being green... Toxic green maybe!!! If you trade in your 3 year old car they don't crush it Someone poorer buys it And it could well last 30 years So your logic is flawed It's just the start of the lifecycle The battery which is the most polluting part of the build will not last 30 or anywhere near that long. Cars like the Prius are not built to last anywhere like 30 years either. So my logic is not flawed in any way..." Wasn't referring to hybrids Just normal cars | |||
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"Is it true they are stopping production of them, or did I misread it. Would love to have one. Only the Defender model...shame,it's the best of them all" The LWB version is the one I always wanted. | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker. I think you are talking about KA's and Micra's... The smaller the car, the more likely it is to be parked in two spaces... The most polluting time in a cars life is its construction. So my 30 year old Land Rover is more environmentally friendly than cars that get replaced every 3 years. The most polluting part of the car is the battery. So overall Prius's are pretty poor when it comes to being green... Toxic green maybe!!! If you trade in your 3 year old car they don't crush it Someone poorer buys it And it could well last 30 years So your logic is flawed It's just the start of the lifecycle The battery which is the most polluting part of the build will not last 30 or anywhere near that long. Cars like the Prius are not built to last anywhere like 30 years either. So my logic is not flawed in any way... Wasn't referring to hybrids Just normal cars " But modern cars are made of stuff that`s more complicated to recycle. Lots of plastics, lots of electronics etc. and are becoming more out of reach to be repaired by a competent DIY person than older cars. My `96 Discovery has a windscreen leak which will require breaking the £100+ windscreen to remove the sealing and has to be done by a specialist windscreen fitter. My now deceased `94 Discovery could have a new £40 rubber seal fitted by me and a mate using a couple of lengths of strong cord! Progress! | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker. I think you are talking about KA's and Micra's... The smaller the car, the more likely it is to be parked in two spaces... The most polluting time in a cars life is its construction. So my 30 year old Land Rover is more environmentally friendly than cars that get replaced every 3 years. The most polluting part of the car is the battery. So overall Prius's are pretty poor when it comes to being green... Toxic green maybe!!! If you trade in your 3 year old car they don't crush it Someone poorer buys it And it could well last 30 years So your logic is flawed It's just the start of the lifecycle The battery which is the most polluting part of the build will not last 30 or anywhere near that long. Cars like the Prius are not built to last anywhere like 30 years either. So my logic is not flawed in any way... Wasn't referring to hybrids Just normal cars But modern cars are made of stuff that`s more complicated to recycle. Lots of plastics, lots of electronics etc. and are becoming more out of reach to be repaired by a competent DIY person than older cars. My `96 Discovery has a windscreen leak which will require breaking the £100+ windscreen to remove the sealing and has to be done by a specialist windscreen fitter. My now deceased `94 Discovery could have a new £40 rubber seal fitted by me and a mate using a couple of lengths of strong cord! Progress! "I get that - but modern cars are lasting longer than 70's rust buckets New is inevitable | |||
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"Black one lol I wasn't interested in what it was, was more intrigued what was inside "Psssss it wasnt my twisted black defender thats for sure..... | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker. I think you are talking about KA's and Micra's... The smaller the car, the more likely it is to be parked in two spaces... The most polluting time in a cars life is its construction. So my 30 year old Land Rover is more environmentally friendly than cars that get replaced every 3 years. The most polluting part of the car is the battery. So overall Prius's are pretty poor when it comes to being green... Toxic green maybe!!! If you trade in your 3 year old car they don't crush it Someone poorer buys it And it could well last 30 years So your logic is flawed It's just the start of the lifecycle The battery which is the most polluting part of the build will not last 30 or anywhere near that long. Cars like the Prius are not built to last anywhere like 30 years either. So my logic is not flawed in any way... Wasn't referring to hybrids Just normal cars " Most normal cars will be unserviceable within 10 to 15 years with parts unobtainable, meaning you break a light or dent a wing and the car will be written off. About the same time mechanical parts will also start becoming unavailable as well... | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker. I think you are talking about KA's and Micra's... The smaller the car, the more likely it is to be parked in two spaces... The most polluting time in a cars life is its construction. So my 30 year old Land Rover is more environmentally friendly than cars that get replaced every 3 years. The most polluting part of the car is the battery. So overall Prius's are pretty poor when it comes to being green... Toxic green maybe!!! If you trade in your 3 year old car they don't crush it Someone poorer buys it And it could well last 30 years So your logic is flawed It's just the start of the lifecycle The battery which is the most polluting part of the build will not last 30 or anywhere near that long. Cars like the Prius are not built to last anywhere like 30 years either. So my logic is not flawed in any way... Wasn't referring to hybrids Just normal cars But modern cars are made of stuff that`s more complicated to recycle. Lots of plastics, lots of electronics etc. and are becoming more out of reach to be repaired by a competent DIY person than older cars. My `96 Discovery has a windscreen leak which will require breaking the £100+ windscreen to remove the sealing and has to be done by a specialist windscreen fitter. My now deceased `94 Discovery could have a new £40 rubber seal fitted by me and a mate using a couple of lengths of strong cord! Progress!
I get that - but modern cars are lasting longer than 70's rust buckets
New is inevitable "You`d be surprised at how many "`70`s rust buckets" survive! I may be wrong but cars that were popular 15-20 years ago seemed to have disappeared from the roads far quicker than the equivalent cars would have done in the past. People would change major components, quite badly accident damaged cars would be repaired even to the extent of transferring running gear to a new body shell. Rusty sills and floors welded up etc. etc. and much more and it was within the capabilities of quite unskilled people to do a lot of this work, even at the roadside. But now certain components can`t be replaced without a computer to set it up after fitting, bodywork is much more stressed so relatively minor bumps result in a vehicle being written off, and people have more disposable income and "better things to do" with their down time. In my younger days self car maintenance and repairs were a necessity as I simply didn`t have the cash to have a newer car or be able to pay for repairs. In one way, I have gone full circle as I now have two 1950`s Ferguson tractors which need to worked on, one need a complete engine rebuild and I`m loving it! The best form of recycling - keeping what you have running! | |||
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"I wish they would go off road, you only need an off roader when you're going off road, not in the middle of Cheltenham blocking the entire road because you cannot parallel park the bloody thing and then have the nerve to have vote Green sticker. I think you are talking about KA's and Micra's... The smaller the car, the more likely it is to be parked in two spaces... The most polluting time in a cars life is its construction. So my 30 year old Land Rover is more environmentally friendly than cars that get replaced every 3 years. The most polluting part of the car is the battery. So overall Prius's are pretty poor when it comes to being green... Toxic green maybe!!! If you trade in your 3 year old car they don't crush it Someone poorer buys it And it could well last 30 years So your logic is flawed It's just the start of the lifecycle The battery which is the most polluting part of the build will not last 30 or anywhere near that long. Cars like the Prius are not built to last anywhere like 30 years either. So my logic is not flawed in any way... Wasn't referring to hybrids Just normal cars But modern cars are made of stuff that`s more complicated to recycle. Lots of plastics, lots of electronics etc. and are becoming more out of reach to be repaired by a competent DIY person than older cars. My `96 Discovery has a windscreen leak which will require breaking the £100+ windscreen to remove the sealing and has to be done by a specialist windscreen fitter. My now deceased `94 Discovery could have a new £40 rubber seal fitted by me and a mate using a couple of lengths of strong cord! Progress!
I get that - but modern cars are lasting longer than 70's rust buckets
New is inevitable
You`d be surprised at how many "`70`s rust buckets" survive! I may be wrong but cars that were popular 15-20 years ago seemed to have disappeared from the roads far quicker than the equivalent cars would have done in the past. People would change major components, quite badly accident damaged cars would be repaired even to the extent of transferring running gear to a new body shell. Rusty sills and floors welded up etc. etc. and much more and it was within the capabilities of quite unskilled people to do a lot of this work, even at the roadside. But now certain components can`t be replaced without a computer to set it up after fitting, bodywork is much more stressed so relatively minor bumps result in a vehicle being written off, and people have more disposable income and "better things to do" with their down time. In my younger days self car maintenance and repairs were a necessity as I simply didn`t have the cash to have a newer car or be able to pay for repairs. In one way, I have gone full circle as I now have two 1950`s Ferguson tractors which need to worked on, one need a complete engine rebuild and I`m loving it! The best form of recycling - keeping what you have running! "Cool. I use to have a MF 35... | |||
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" Most normal cars will be unserviceable within 10 to 15 years with parts unobtainable, meaning you break a light or dent a wing and the car will be written off. About the same time mechanical parts will also start becoming unavailable as well... " Utter rubbish! | |||
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" Most normal cars will be unserviceable within 10 to 15 years with parts unobtainable, meaning you break a light or dent a wing and the car will be written off. About the same time mechanical parts will also start becoming unavailable as well... Utter rubbish!" Car manufacturers stop supplying parts for cars at different stages. Some parts can be unavailable before end of production. Other parts can be available for a couple of years after production ends. Some parts can still be available 10 years later. I worked in the motor trade for a few years and my father did for over 40 years. I have dealt with part suppliers and spoken to the manufacturer trying to track down unavailable parts. So I actually have experience of what I am talking about... | |||
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" Most normal cars will be unserviceable within 10 to 15 years with parts unobtainable, meaning you break a light or dent a wing and the car will be written off. About the same time mechanical parts will also start becoming unavailable as well... Utter rubbish!" Oh and before I forget, in 10 years time some of the parts available will cost far more than the car is worth... | |||
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"Miss my old gaylander sadly she went bang" What's a Gaylander? Have googled it but it doesn't seem to be a generally used term | |||
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" Most normal cars will be unserviceable within 10 to 15 years with parts unobtainable, meaning you break a light or dent a wing and the car will be written off. About the same time mechanical parts will also start becoming unavailable as well... Utter rubbish! Oh and before I forget, in 10 years time some of the parts available will cost far more than the car is worth..." That's exactly why I'm hanging on to mine | |||
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"Miss my old gaylander sadly she went bang What's a Gaylander? Have googled it but it doesn't seem to be a generally used term" I assume it's a freelander. | |||
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"Miss my old gaylander sadly she went bang What's a Gaylander? Have googled it but it doesn't seem to be a generally used term I assume it's a freelander." That`s what I was thinking too TD! | |||
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" Most normal cars will be unserviceable within 10 to 15 years with parts unobtainable, meaning you break a light or dent a wing and the car will be written off. About the same time mechanical parts will also start becoming unavailable as well... Utter rubbish! Oh and before I forget, in 10 years time some of the parts available will cost far more than the car is worth... That's exactly why I'm hanging on to mine "I keep telling Frisky that I need a 110 or a 130 to go with the 90 for that very reason... | |||
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"Ive got a 110 and a 101 Plus a 110 and a disco at work " Now you are talking..a 101 forward control.one day I will be in the right place at the right time and the cash to buy one of these. | |||
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"Ive got a 110 and a 101 Plus a 110 and a disco at work " Git!!!! I too, want a 101! A friend had one, a few years ago, what fun it was to drive I've had a couple of 110s, & Discoverys | |||
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"I see Land Rover are finishing production of the Defender soon. Big mistake if you ask me. " They are going to replace it with a Eco friendly version | |||
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"Ive got a 110 and a 101 Plus a 110 and a disco at work Now you are talking..a 101 forward control.one day I will be in the right place at the right time and the cash to buy one of these. "The Landrover Centre at Lockwood some times have the odd one of these, pretty steep prices though. Last time I was there they had a 101 from the film Judge Dread in the yard, the looked cool in the film but when you see them up close you realize how they got their nickname "dread sheds". | |||
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"Ive got a 110 and a 101 Plus a 110 and a disco at work Now you are talking..a 101 forward control.one day I will be in the right place at the right time and the cash to buy one of these. "Its work in progress turning it into a overland camper with a double bed | |||
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"Ive got a 110 and a 101 Plus a 110 and a disco at work Now you are talking..a 101 forward control.one day I will be in the right place at the right time and the cash to buy one of these.
Its work in progress turning it into a overland camper with a double bed "That is just what I'd be doing as well. | |||
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