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"please assure me there are more decent people in the UK than there are discompassionate scumbags." There almost certainly are. | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread?" Don`t think everyone is like you, this is serious to me, judge yourself first. | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread?" Really?  was there any need for that? | |||
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"Depends what the laugh was like.....might have been panic like laughs. Nasty laughs? Their turn will come "Wish I could believe that, they were laughing at her for quite sometime, peoples looks seemed to scare them away. | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread? Really? was there any need for that?" | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread? Really? was there any need for that?"Thanks, there is a prime example of the people I`m talking about, accusing someone he`s never met of using disabled people to get sex, we`re not all that low. | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread? Really? was there any need for that?"No hangs his head in shame and goes looking for a disabled person to mug! The post is banal and most people would have gone to the aid of the lady. The OP wants reassurance the world is fine he is in for a shock! He is a great guy and I propose we nominate him for Secretary General of the United Nations. There I stand disgraced contrite and wearing yellow socks! | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread? Really? was there any need for that?No hangs his head in shame and goes looking for a disabled person to mug!
The post is banal and most people would have gone to the aid of the lady. The OP wants reassurance the world is fine he is in for a shock!
He is a great guy and I propose we nominate him for Secretary General of the United Nations. There I stand disgraced contrite and wearing yellow socks! "Please go, so we can have a decent conversation. | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread? Really? was there any need for that?No hangs his head in shame and goes looking for a disabled person to mug!
The post is banal and most people would have gone to the aid of the lady. The OP wants reassurance the world is fine he is in for a shock!
He is a great guy and I propose we nominate him for Secretary General of the United Nations. There I stand disgraced contrite and wearing yellow socks! "well said and of course most normal people would go to the aid of anyone who fell out of their car but this world is a mean nasty place and some like you saw will just laugh  | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread? Really? was there any need for that?No hangs his head in shame and goes looking for a disabled person to mug!
The post is banal and most people would have gone to the aid of the lady. The OP wants reassurance the world is fine he is in for a shock!
He is a great guy and I propose we nominate him for Secretary General of the United Nations. There I stand disgraced contrite and wearing yellow socks! well said and of course most normal people would go to the aid of anyone who fell out of their car but this world is a mean nasty place and some like you saw will just laugh "I was just opening it up for discussion with people who are interested, there may be other people on here who have disabled relatives who would like to chat about it, if you`ve no interest or find it " banal" just move on, no need for such comments. | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread? Really? was there any need for that?No hangs his head in shame and goes looking for a disabled person to mug!
The post is banal and most people would have gone to the aid of the lady. The OP wants reassurance the world is fine he is in for a shock!
He is a great guy and I propose we nominate him for Secretary General of the United Nations. There I stand disgraced contrite and wearing yellow socks! well said and of course most normal people would go to the aid of anyone who fell out of their car but this world is a mean nasty place and some like you saw will just laugh
I was just opening it up for discussion with people who are interested, there may be other people on here who have disabled relatives who would like to chat about it, if you`ve no interest or find it " banal" just move on, no need for such comments."oh dear me and there was me thinking you were a nice person and silly of me to think i could put a post on this thread without more or less telling me to sod off  | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread? Really? was there any need for that?No hangs his head in shame and goes looking for a disabled person to mug!
The post is banal and most people would have gone to the aid of the lady. The OP wants reassurance the world is fine he is in for a shock!
He is a great guy and I propose we nominate him for Secretary General of the United Nations. There I stand disgraced contrite and wearing yellow socks! well said and of course most normal people would go to the aid of anyone who fell out of their car but this world is a mean nasty place and some like you saw will just laugh
I was just opening it up for discussion with people who are interested, there may be other people on here who have disabled relatives who would like to chat about it, if you`ve no interest or find it " banal" just move on, no need for such comments. oh dear me and there was me thinking you were a nice person and silly of me to think i could put a post on this thread without more or less telling me to sod off "Sorry, it was a mistake, I was replying to the quote before yours, I know you weren`t being offensive, I just found it really offensive that somebody accuses me of doing something like that, I probably need to harden up a bit. | |||
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"There is still plenty of compassion in the UK. This is - in my opinion - one of the most compassionate countries in the world. Sadly to our detriment in so many cases today. Those women were an abaration and cannot be taken as representative of the UK population. Its awful what you said they did but you get bad apples everywhere in society unfortunately." | |||
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"They are in the minority. I see compassion almost daily. There are always those that don't have a compassionate bone in their body, but the rest more than make up for it. " | |||
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"People have always been shit to each other, this is not a new thing at all." I agree, but there has been a lot of bad publicity that has incited this kind of behaviour towards disabled people, when you are on the receiving end you see more than anyone else, disabled people are being labelled as scroungers, it`s a bad situation that may get worse. | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping?" I knew there was a reason I liked you, other than the possibility of LMP.  | |||
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"What has happened to our supposedly decent society. On Saturday I saw a disabled woman fall out of her car and two women stood and laughed at her, luckily there were some kind people to help her, What has happened to people lately, I have disabled friends and relatives, and it saddens me to think that on top of what they already have to deal with on a daily basis, they have to deal with arseholes like that, Why are disabled people being treated like this, please assure me there are more decent people in the UK than there are discompassionate scumbags." Two people laughed but other people helped. I'd say that compassion was evident in that situation. | |||
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"What has happened to our supposedly decent society. On Saturday I saw a disabled woman fall out of her car and two women stood and laughed at her, luckily there were some kind people to help her, What has happened to people lately, I have disabled friends and relatives, and it saddens me to think that on top of what they already have to deal with on a daily basis, they have to deal with arseholes like that, Why are disabled people being treated like this, please assure me there are more decent people in the UK than there are discompassionate scumbags. Two people laughed but other people helped. I'd say that compassion was evident in that situation. " The two become four and exponentially grow, that's worrying. It is a 'me' world... | |||
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"What has happened to our supposedly decent society. On Saturday I saw a disabled woman fall out of her car and two women stood and laughed at her, luckily there were some kind people to help her, What has happened to people lately, I have disabled friends and relatives, and it saddens me to think that on top of what they already have to deal with on a daily basis, they have to deal with arseholes like that, Why are disabled people being treated like this, please assure me there are more decent people in the UK than there are discompassionate scumbags. Two people laughed but other people helped. I'd say that compassion was evident in that situation. The two become four and exponentially grow, that's worrying. It is a 'me' world..." did they?  | |||
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"What has happened to our supposedly decent society. On Saturday I saw a disabled woman fall out of her car and two women stood and laughed at her, luckily there were some kind people to help her, What has happened to people lately, I have disabled friends and relatives, and it saddens me to think that on top of what they already have to deal with on a daily basis, they have to deal with arseholes like that, Why are disabled people being treated like this, please assure me there are more decent people in the UK than there are discompassionate scumbags. Two people laughed but other people helped. I'd say that compassion was evident in that situation. The two become four and exponentially grow, that's worrying. It is a 'me' world..." The people who helped become four and then more and it becomes an 'us' world... | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping?" You beat me to it  | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping?" What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. | |||
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"Would be this I am a great guy come fuck me thread? Don`t think everyone is like you, this is serious to me, judge yourself first." So why did you just watch and not help yourself? | |||
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" There is a lack of compassion on far more than disabled people. Perhaps the fault lies with overload, just how many have jumped on the "disabled" bandwagon. There's word around that there are 2.5 million blue badges in existence. Surely, that can't be genuine? Serious question, how many are truly "disabled" other than merely than "less able than most". I for one, am less able to play gold than Jordan Spieth but that shouldn't enetitle me to a life on benefits. Should it? " Whilst there are a minority who con the system, there is a long process to being eligible for DLA, the problem is that people believe propaganda rather than finding out the facts. The media has done a lot to turn people against disabled people, and as you pointed out, others too. Some people think disabled people are scroungers, and that is unacceptable in a decent society, I wish it was only the two women at the incident in my op, but it isn't, it's becoming more and more common at the moment and causing them and their carers a great deal of distress. | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious." your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier." But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore." But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. | |||
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"You are missing the point, in the real world a person got help and compassion.. OK so 2 people laughed but that is commonly a nervous reaction and they didn't need to help others already were." The incident was used as an example, I'm speaking of things in general. I know she got helped, but the two women are an example of a lot of people at the moment due to media propaganda, the government and their friends have been hitting at them since 2010, and certain people have been going along with it, this was just one incident of many, and if I ignore it and look at the world through rose specs, then I'm ignoring the facts and they wont go away, they will get worse because people are not being made aware of them and nobody is campaigning against them.Please don't fixate on the example, but the wider picture. It's difficult to express emotion through typing, I'm not having a go at you, just discussing. | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. " I agree with what you are saying, but there is a general shift in the negative direction and I'm very concerned about where it will lead if left unchallenged. | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. I agree with what you are saying, but there is a general shift in the negative direction and I'm very concerned about where it will lead if left unchallenged." how do you propose we challenge this perceived shift in behaviour? Do you feel the DDA has gone any way to helping? | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. I agree with what you are saying, but there is a general shift in the negative direction and I'm very concerned about where it will lead if left unchallenged. how do you propose we challenge this perceived shift in behaviour? Do you feel the DDA has gone any way to helping?" There have been changes to the DDA since 2010 and they are still changing it, I haven't looked recently, but that is one of the problems, the changes are made to suit the government and not the people it is supposed to be there for, I have fought long and hard with my local authority over my disabled children, I've used Solicitors, NSPCC, local media and my MP, it's disgraceful how we hear " decent society" used by politicians and various media, but the actions do not match the words, it's always a struggle, but there is no need for this to be the case. So we need to counter it all with the facts, because people are easily lead by the media and that is the main reason for the slide. | |||
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"What has happened to our supposedly decent society. On Saturday I saw a disabled woman fall out of her car and two women stood and laughed at her, luckily there were some kind people to help her, What has happened to people lately, I have disabled friends and relatives, and it saddens me to think that on top of what they already have to deal with on a daily basis, they have to deal with arseholes like that, Why are disabled people being treated like this, please assure me there are more decent people in the UK than there are discompassionate scumbags." What did you do..? did you go and help her? | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. I agree with what you are saying, but there is a general shift in the negative direction and I'm very concerned about where it will lead if left unchallenged. how do you propose we challenge this perceived shift in behaviour? Do you feel the DDA has gone any way to helping? There have been changes to the DDA since 2010 and they are still changing it, I haven't looked recently, but that is one of the problems, the changes are made to suit the government and not the people it is supposed to be there for, I have fought long and hard with my local authority over my disabled children, I've used Solicitors, NSPCC, local media and my MP, it's disgraceful how we hear " decent society" used by politicians and various media, but the actions do not match the words, it's always a struggle, but there is no need for this to be the case. So we need to counter it all with the facts, because people are easily lead by the media and that is the main reason for the slide. " I dont see much positivity from the media but I can't say I've seen anything that would provoke people to laugh at a disabled woman falling out of her car. | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. I agree with what you are saying, but there is a general shift in the negative direction and I'm very concerned about where it will lead if left unchallenged. how do you propose we challenge this perceived shift in behaviour? Do you feel the DDA has gone any way to helping? There have been changes to the DDA since 2010 and they are still changing it, I haven't looked recently, but that is one of the problems, the changes are made to suit the government and not the people it is supposed to be there for, I have fought long and hard with my local authority over my disabled children, I've used Solicitors, NSPCC, local media and my MP, it's disgraceful how we hear " decent society" used by politicians and various media, but the actions do not match the words, it's always a struggle, but there is no need for this to be the case. So we need to counter it all with the facts, because people are easily lead by the media and that is the main reason for the slide. " Just a thought, doesn't a Government introduce any Act for the good of the entire population, not just for a self interested few, some of whom, maybe a miniscule minority, are never satisfied and want more than would be a fair share for the general populace. Life isn't fair, never was, never will be. Would you prefer Mother Nature's rules? | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. I agree with what you are saying, but there is a general shift in the negative direction and I'm very concerned about where it will lead if left unchallenged. how do you propose we challenge this perceived shift in behaviour? Do you feel the DDA has gone any way to helping? There have been changes to the DDA since 2010 and they are still changing it, I haven't looked recently, but that is one of the problems, the changes are made to suit the government and not the people it is supposed to be there for, I have fought long and hard with my local authority over my disabled children, I've used Solicitors, NSPCC, local media and my MP, it's disgraceful how we hear " decent society" used by politicians and various media, but the actions do not match the words, it's always a struggle, but there is no need for this to be the case. So we need to counter it all with the facts, because people are easily lead by the media and that is the main reason for the slide. Just a thought, doesn't a Government introduce any Act for the good of the entire population, not just for a self interested few, some of whom, maybe a miniscule minority, are never satisfied and want more than would be a fair share for the general populace. Life isn't fair, never was, never will be. Would you prefer Mother Nature's rules? " Disabled people just want to be able to live an equal life, have opportunities like everyone else, that is the kind of attitude I`m talking about. | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. I agree with what you are saying, but there is a general shift in the negative direction and I'm very concerned about where it will lead if left unchallenged. how do you propose we challenge this perceived shift in behaviour? Do you feel the DDA has gone any way to helping? There have been changes to the DDA since 2010 and they are still changing it, I haven't looked recently, but that is one of the problems, the changes are made to suit the government and not the people it is supposed to be there for, I have fought long and hard with my local authority over my disabled children, I've used Solicitors, NSPCC, local media and my MP, it's disgraceful how we hear " decent society" used by politicians and various media, but the actions do not match the words, it's always a struggle, but there is no need for this to be the case. So we need to counter it all with the facts, because people are easily lead by the media and that is the main reason for the slide. Just a thought, doesn't a Government introduce any Act for the good of the entire population, not just for a self interested few, some of whom, maybe a miniscule minority, are never satisfied and want more than would be a fair share for the general populace. Life isn't fair, never was, never will be. Would you prefer Mother Nature's rules? Disabled people just want to be able to live an equal life, have opportunities like everyone else, that is the kind of attitude I`m talking about." An equal life to whom? Richard Branson or a starving kid in Africa? | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. I agree with what you are saying, but there is a general shift in the negative direction and I'm very concerned about where it will lead if left unchallenged. how do you propose we challenge this perceived shift in behaviour? Do you feel the DDA has gone any way to helping? There have been changes to the DDA since 2010 and they are still changing it, I haven't looked recently, but that is one of the problems, the changes are made to suit the government and not the people it is supposed to be there for, I have fought long and hard with my local authority over my disabled children, I've used Solicitors, NSPCC, local media and my MP, it's disgraceful how we hear " decent society" used by politicians and various media, but the actions do not match the words, it's always a struggle, but there is no need for this to be the case. So we need to counter it all with the facts, because people are easily lead by the media and that is the main reason for the slide. Just a thought, doesn't a Government introduce any Act for the good of the entire population, not just for a self interested few, some of whom, maybe a miniscule minority, are never satisfied and want more than would be a fair share for the general populace. Life isn't fair, never was, never will be. Would you prefer Mother Nature's rules? Disabled people just want to be able to live an equal life, have opportunities like everyone else, that is the kind of attitude I`m talking about. An equal life to whom? Richard Branson or a starving kid in Africa? " Us. | |||
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"Who is us?" People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens." They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in?" But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? | |||
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"You are wrong Op. My sister is disabled and the attitude towards true disabled people is a lot better than it was say 20,30,40 years ago. And if she'd fallen out of a car she'd probably have laughed at herself. The worst thing you can do sometimes is to treat people differently and display pity" .............Risqué comments on a sympathy thread! | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in?" No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does" You cannot judge every disabled person on the basis of a single person and their experiences, that is so ignorant, both my sons are severely disabled and will need 24 hour care for their entire lives, so when I`m gone they will be reliant on others, that is why it concerns me that the system is being attacked, and people like you do not help, I`m pleased your sister is getting help and living her life to the full, but not everyone is as fortunate. | |||
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"People need to research before commenting, I live with and communicate with disabled people so am living with and getting the hard facts, not speculation, If people are unaware of the problems over the past five years, then they are part of the problem, This is not a sympathy thread, it is a serious discussion with people who are in the same boat and see the problems arising. Why people feel the necessity to be so petty minded and put sniping comments on a thread they feel is banal and of no interest to them, shows them for what they are." Ok Mr Nordy here it is. I cared for a disabled mother for 15 years I know the system in side out and as it stands at the moment its tough there is no doubt but its that way for everyone. That said the number of "motorbility" cars has doubled in 3 years but I give its tough and choices have to be made. Returning to your OP I was poking fun at the fact you chose to post comment that was in my opinion banal and it is.....in my opinion. 98% of the population would have given help to the lady in question but we all know there are 2% of the homosapien race that are just either idiots or bad to the bone. As a side issue I know where you can get a good deal on female incontinence pads as the ones the nursing home provides just don't cut it anymore. | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does You cannot judge every disabled person on the basis of a single person and their experiences, that is so ignorant, both my sons are severely disabled and will need 24 hour care for their entire lives, so when I`m gone they will be reliant on others, that is why it concerns me that the system is being attacked, and people like you do not help, I`m pleased your sister is getting help and living her life to the full, but not everyone is as fortunate." So when you're gone you really think the society we live in will just abandon your children??? And what do you mean people like me do not help? | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does" What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does You cannot judge every disabled person on the basis of a single person and their experiences, that is so ignorant, both my sons are severely disabled and will need 24 hour care for their entire lives, so when I`m gone they will be reliant on others, that is why it concerns me that the system is being attacked, and people like you do not help, I`m pleased your sister is getting help and living her life to the full, but not everyone is as fortunate. So when you're gone you really think the society we live in will just abandon your children??? And what do you mean people like me do not help?" People who judge others on their own experiences, as I said not all disabled people are alike. | |||
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"People need to research before commenting, I live with and communicate with disabled people so am living with and getting the hard facts, not speculation, If people are unaware of the problems over the past five years, then they are part of the problem, This is not a sympathy thread, it is a serious discussion with people who are in the same boat and see the problems arising. Why people feel the necessity to be so petty minded and put sniping comments on a thread they feel is banal and of no interest to them, shows them for what they are.Ok Mr Nordy here it is. I cared for a disabled mother for 15 years I know the system in side out and as it stands at the moment its tough there is no doubt but its that way for everyone. That said the number of "motorbility" cars has doubled in 3 years but I give its tough and choices have to be made. Returning to your OP I was poking fun at the fact you chose to post comment that was in my opinion banal and it is.....in my opinion. 98% of the population would have given help to the lady in question but we all know there are 2% of the homosapien race that are just either idiots or bad to the bone. As a side issue I know where you can get a good deal on female incontinence pads as the ones the nursing home provides just don't cut it anymore. " The op was just an example for the bigger debate, why didn`t you just debate instead of putting silly comments, I don`t think you`re up to date on issues of disabilities at ground level, learn to leave people alone in future and get on with your own thing. | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does You cannot judge every disabled person on the basis of a single person and their experiences, that is so ignorant, both my sons are severely disabled and will need 24 hour care for their entire lives, so when I`m gone they will be reliant on others, that is why it concerns me that the system is being attacked, and people like you do not help, I`m pleased your sister is getting help and living her life to the full, but not everyone is as fortunate. So when you're gone you really think the society we live in will just abandon your children??? And what do you mean people like me do not help? People who judge others on their own experiences, as I said not all disabled people are alike." Isnt that what you are doing? And I never said they were, I just said she makes the most of every opportunity available to her and is respected for that. You are the one who said disabled people are not respected or might lose self respect through percieved cuts. Do you not think that disability allowance reform is needed so that more money can be directed to where its really needed? IE to people like your children? | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does You cannot judge every disabled person on the basis of a single person and their experiences, that is so ignorant, both my sons are severely disabled and will need 24 hour care for their entire lives, so when I`m gone they will be reliant on others, that is why it concerns me that the system is being attacked, and people like you do not help, I`m pleased your sister is getting help and living her life to the full, but not everyone is as fortunate. So when you're gone you really think the society we live in will just abandon your children??? And what do you mean people like me do not help? People who judge others on their own experiences, as I said not all disabled people are alike. Isnt that what you are doing? And I never said they were, I just said she makes the most of every opportunity available to her and is respected for that. You are the one who said disabled people are not respected or might lose self respect through percieved cuts. Do you not think that disability allowance reform is needed so that more money can be directed to where its really needed? IE to people like your children?" But that isn`t happening, speak to disabled people and hear what is going on, I`m on a forum with carers, they are sick with worry, the government and media, especially the Daily Mail, have demonised the disabled as scroungers and are throwing around all kinds of accusations, Everything that has been brought in to improve opportunities is under threat, and those who are very severe are also being hit, go onto the forums and various social media, the facts are there not in the papers or the news, their is little or no coverage of these issues, yes there is help, but it is being attacked and people are in fear, I know many people are being hit, disabled or not, but this thread is about disabled people, there is more going on than people know about. | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason?" Perish the thought
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does You cannot judge every disabled person on the basis of a single person and their experiences, that is so ignorant, both my sons are severely disabled and will need 24 hour care for their entire lives, so when I`m gone they will be reliant on others, that is why it concerns me that the system is being attacked, and people like you do not help, I`m pleased your sister is getting help and living her life to the full, but not everyone is as fortunate. So when you're gone you really think the society we live in will just abandon your children??? And what do you mean people like me do not help? People who judge others on their own experiences, as I said not all disabled people are alike. Isnt that what you are doing? And I never said they were, I just said she makes the most of every opportunity available to her and is respected for that. You are the one who said disabled people are not respected or might lose self respect through percieved cuts. Do you not think that disability allowance reform is needed so that more money can be directed to where its really needed? IE to people like your children? But that isn`t happening, speak to disabled people and hear what is going on, I`m on a forum with carers, they are sick with worry, the government and media, especially the Daily Mail, have demonised the disabled as scroungers and are throwing around all kinds of accusations, Everything that has been brought in to improve opportunities is under threat, and those who are very severe are also being hit, go onto the forums and various social media, the facts are there not in the papers or the news, their is little or no coverage of these issues, yes there is help, but it is being attacked and people are in fear, I know many people are being hit, disabled or not, but this thread is about disabled people, there is more going on than people know about." And you know the people who post in these forums do you? | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? Perish the thought
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? Perish the thought
But have you not noticed the increased number over recent years? Particularly among fairly young men?"There are more people being diagnosed with things like Autism now, my lads are very severe with other complications, so they were obvious from the start, but some are not. I have noticed the increase, but to be honest not among young men. The thing is, reforms are to suit govenment`s and the rich, not to suit the people the reforms are meant to be for, and they can`t use the economy as an excuse, because firstly, the economy is meant to be there for things like this, and secondly they are lying to us and spending far more in other areas that suit their friends and supporters, and it will get worse until we one day realise and it`s too late to do anything. | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? Perish the thought
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? Perish the thought
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Fair enough. Eastbourne may be a little more affluent than inner city Stoke and Crewe though"Some areas are better than others, some constituencies are trying harder than others not to make cuts in certain areas, but some are nightmares, mine is so so, but I`ve had to fight them a lot just to get basic help, | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? Perish the thought
But have you not noticed the increased number over recent years? Particularly among fairly young men?
No I can't say that I have really.
Fair enough. Eastbourne may be a little more affluent than inner city Stoke and Crewe though"Lots of people think that lol.There are undoubtedly affluent people in this area but there is a high percentage of people on and below minimum wage and living in poverty. You're probably right that it doesn't compare to inner city Stoke or Crewe though. Are you saying that walking stick usage increases with lack of money? In Eastbourne the richer you are the more likely you are to use a stick.....mostly because you're probably nearly 100. | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? Perish the thought
But have you not noticed the increased number over recent years? Particularly among fairly young men?
No I can't say that I have really.
Fair enough. Eastbourne may be a little more affluent than inner city Stoke and Crewe though
Lots of people think that lol.There are undoubtedly affluent people in this area but there is a high percentage of people on and below minimum wage and living in poverty. You're probably right that it doesn't compare to inner city Stoke or Crewe though. Are you saying that walking stick usage increases with lack of money? In Eastbourne the richer you are the more likely you are to use a stick.....mostly because you're probably nearly 100. "
No, just more people trying to top up benefits or get out of work because of some 'complaint' | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? Perish the thought
But have you not noticed the increased number over recent years? Particularly among fairly young men?
No I can't say that I have really.
Fair enough. Eastbourne may be a little more affluent than inner city Stoke and Crewe though
Lots of people think that lol.There are undoubtedly affluent people in this area but there is a high percentage of people on and below minimum wage and living in poverty. You're probably right that it doesn't compare to inner city Stoke or Crewe though. Are you saying that walking stick usage increases with lack of money? In Eastbourne the richer you are the more likely you are to use a stick.....mostly because you're probably nearly 100.
No, just more people trying to top up benefits or get out of work because of some 'complaint'"Blimey I wonder if people thought that about me when I used a stick, I was relatively young at the time. | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? Perish the thought
But have you not noticed the increased number over recent years? Particularly among fairly young men?
No I can't say that I have really.
Fair enough. Eastbourne may be a little more affluent than inner city Stoke and Crewe though
Lots of people think that lol.There are undoubtedly affluent people in this area but there is a high percentage of people on and below minimum wage and living in poverty. You're probably right that it doesn't compare to inner city Stoke or Crewe though. Are you saying that walking stick usage increases with lack of money? In Eastbourne the richer you are the more likely you are to use a stick.....mostly because you're probably nearly 100.
No, just more people trying to top up benefits or get out of work because of some 'complaint'
Blimey I wonder if people thought that about me when I used a stick, I was relatively young at the time. "But your stick was mainly to counter the effects of Moet et Chandon of a lunchtime and for beating the servants | |||
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"Who is us? People living in the UK, they can`t help being disabled, they need help to live on a daily basis, we have the means to help and give them some respect and self respect, so why not do that,we`re not animals, we have more capabilities, anyone of us can become disabled at anytime, surely it`s better to live in a society where we know we will be ok if that ever happens. They do get help on a daily basis! Which country do you live in? But that is being gradually removed due to unnecessary cuts, which country do you live in? No its not. And any cuts being made are good for genuine disabled people. Wish I had shares in a walking stick company, never seen so many on the streets as there are today. Wonder why that is? And within the confines of her disability my sister has the opportunity to do just as much as any able bodied person and is respected for the things that she does What a very strange comment you make about walking sticks. I assume that people use them to help with their balance when walking.....well that was how I used mine. Are you saying that they are using them for another reason? Perish the thought
But have you not noticed the increased number over recent years? Particularly among fairly young men?
No I can't say that I have really.
Fair enough. Eastbourne may be a little more affluent than inner city Stoke and Crewe though
Lots of people think that lol.There are undoubtedly affluent people in this area but there is a high percentage of people on and below minimum wage and living in poverty. You're probably right that it doesn't compare to inner city Stoke or Crewe though. Are you saying that walking stick usage increases with lack of money? In Eastbourne the richer you are the more likely you are to use a stick.....mostly because you're probably nearly 100.
No, just more people trying to top up benefits or get out of work because of some 'complaint'
Blimey I wonder if people thought that about me when I used a stick, I was relatively young at the time.
But your stick was mainly to counter the effects of Moet et Chandon of a lunchtime and for beating the servants "This is true but I would NEVER allow Moet to touch my lips Krug or Bollinger for moi.  | |||
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"People need to research before commenting, I live with and communicate with disabled people so am living with and getting the hard facts, not speculation, If people are unaware of the problems over the past five years, then they are part of the problem, This is not a sympathy thread, it is a serious discussion with people who are in the same boat and see the problems arising. Why people feel the necessity to be so petty minded and put sniping comments on a thread they feel is banal and of no interest to them, shows them for what they are.Ok Mr Nordy here it is. I cared for a disabled mother for 15 years I know the system in side out and as it stands at the moment its tough there is no doubt but its that way for everyone. That said the number of "motorbility" cars has doubled in 3 years but I give its tough and choices have to be made. Returning to your OP I was poking fun at the fact you chose to post comment that was in my opinion banal and it is.....in my opinion. 98% of the population would have given help to the lady in question but we all know there are 2% of the homosapien race that are just either idiots or bad to the bone. As a side issue I know where you can get a good deal on female incontinence pads as the ones the nursing home provides just don't cut it anymore. The op was just an example for the bigger debate, why didn`t you just debate instead of putting silly comments, I don`t think you`re up to date on issues of disabilities at ground level, learn to leave people alone in future and get on with your own thing." Lighten up Nordy man and help me source those incontinence pads cheaper! | |||
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"OP you say you saw two women laugh, and it made you despair at the loss of compassion.... you also say you saw people help, did that not make you rejoice that compassion is alive and well? You fail to mention what you did while watching the scenario, shouldn't you have been helping? What makes you think I didn't? I thought the tone of this thread would make it obvious. your post was not clear on that point, in fact it read as others helping. But people still helped. Try to see the good in life not the bad, almost always both are there, but seeing the good will make you happier. But that is living in denial of the facts and not dealing with the problems doesn't make them go away, I can't be happy knowing that. It's very close to home for me, and making life a struggle for people I love and care for, so it's impossible to ignore. But you are saying that compassion is dead when quite clearly through your own quoted experience it isn't. While you find it impossible to ignore the two laughing women who showed no compassion you seem to find it possible to ignore the existence of it in the people who helped. You yourself possess compassion. I know through first hand experience that people can be extremely cruel to physically and mentally less able people but I am also able to acknowledge the huge amounts of people who care. I agree with what you are saying, but there is a general shift in the negative direction and I'm very concerned about where it will lead if left unchallenged. how do you propose we challenge this perceived shift in behaviour? Do you feel the DDA has gone any way to helping? There have been changes to the DDA since 2010 and they are still changing it, I haven't looked recently, but that is one of the problems, the changes are made to suit the government and not the people it is supposed to be there for, I have fought long and hard with my local authority over my disabled children, I've used Solicitors, NSPCC, local media and my MP, it's disgraceful how we hear " decent society" used by politicians and various media, but the actions do not match the words, it's always a struggle, but there is no need for this to be the case. So we need to counter it all with the facts, because people are easily lead by the media and that is the main reason for the slide. " What have you had to fight long and hard for? | |||
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