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"Oh it was all cabbies was it? This place is better than sky news isn't it " I thought it was only 50/50 cab drivers and take aways. | |||
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"Oh it was all cabbies was it? " Err, no. It was only ALL the muslim, black ones, obvs. No white christian man has ever committed any crime whatsoever. In fact I'd go as far as to say that Hitler was a very nice young man, when I had him in the back of my cab... Mr ddc | |||
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"Oh it was all cabbies was it? Err, no. It was only ALL the muslim, black ones, obvs. No white christian man has ever committed any crime whatsoever. In fact I'd go as far as to say that Hitler was a very nice young man, when I had him in the back of my cab... Mr ddc" He was nice when he gave me a lift too I told him a moustache would suit him and soften his face a little | |||
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" Mr ddc He was nice when he gave me a lift too I told him a moustache would suit him and soften his face a little" I changed my tune after driving him all the way to Warsaw though. He left such I miserly tip I nearly accused him of being... .. er . Scottish? | |||
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"My tea wasn't that great last night. Ruddy Muslims at it again causing all the problems in the world.... " Are you talking utter pradesh again Tina? You should stick to that nice English Earl Grey stuff instead. White though, obvs | |||
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"Could it be something to do with the cost, or more likely the 1400 white school girls that they have been raping and abusing ???? " You are lumping everyone together there, I am sure not all of the Taxi drivers were involved. Here is a link to what has been said about it. http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/rotherham-councillors-back-controversial-new-licensing-laws-for-taxi-drivers-1-7348938 | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!" I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people. | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people." . Try reading what I wrote...I was being case specific! Did any of your 250 get away with it for years despite growing allegations because they were .... Atheists... If so I'll stamp my feet about that too | |||
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"Could it be something to do with the cost, or more likely the 1400 white school girls that they have been raping and abusing ???? " were all those convicted cab drivers then? | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex!" The non tabloid paper reports I have read have stated most assaults are by family members, friends and neighbours. That would suggest that the biggest number of offenders are white men. But then that is obvious and not newsworthy. Shall we start rounding up individual white male parents? Some may remember the Cleveland scandal. People who commit crimes against children are vile no matter what colour or creed. The commentor also ignores the abuse within communities against their own children. I wonder who really is the ostrich! | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people." now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now.. i mean really.. | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people. now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now.. i mean really.. " To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down. It is well documented if you want to look it up. | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people.. Try reading what I wrote...I was being case specific! Did any of your 250 get away with it for years despite growing allegations because they were .... Atheists... If so I'll stamp my feet about that too" After disagreeing with you yesterday. I find myself agreeing with your opinion today. Funny old world. (Fracking for the win ) | |||
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"Could it be something to do with the cost, or more likely the 1400 white school girls that they have been raping and abusing ???? You are lumping everyone together there, I am sure not all of the Taxi drivers were involved. Here is a link to what has been said about it. http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/rotherham-councillors-back-controversial-new-licensing-laws-for-taxi-drivers-1-7348938" Sorry, it might be this link you are talking about. http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/five-rotherham-taxi-drivers-have-licenses-revoked-in-relation-to-child-abuse-investigations-1-7329546 It still isn't all taxi drivers | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people. now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now.. i mean really.. To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down. It is well documented if you want to look it up." the assumption or inference from the OP is that all taxi drivers are Asian in that area and that they were all linked to the disgusting issue's that took place there.. not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there... there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame.. | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people. now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now.. i mean really.. To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down. It is well documented if you want to look it up. the assumption or inference from the OP is that all taxi drivers are Asian in that area and that they were all linked to the disgusting issue's that took place there.. not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there... there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame.. " to be fair nowhere at all has the OP even mentioned the nationality of the taxi drivers or said all drivers are asian | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people. now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now.. i mean really.. To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down. It is well documented if you want to look it up." . It wasn't just a one off at Rotherham though was it, there's been five documented court cases now within a few years all involving majority Muslim men, all using the Same tactics, all using the same victim status and all getting away with it for more years than they should have because of the fear of not offending people! The ostriches always drag up the same shit about % of offenders, Muslim faith blah blah blah... Who gives a shit, I was banging on about catholic paedos for years and what a disgrace they were... | |||
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" not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there... there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame.. " You were not quoting the OP The OP didn't mention any religion. | |||
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" You were not quoting the OP The OP didn't mention any religion. " Try the green arrow Ruggers, the OP clearly has a thing about muslims. There is definitely an inference that the only reason any cabbie would not want to incur additional costs is because it might stop them from their main aim which is to abuse young white girls. And yes, most cabbies in Rotherham are Muslim. However, in the Derbyshire Dales a few years ago, our cabbies were up in arms about new rules that would raise their costs too, they pointed out that they would be unable to compete with other cabbies licensed in Notts/Derby. Back then, it was assumed to be all about financial viability, I don't recall the fact that most of our cabbies are white being mentioned once. | |||
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" There is definitely an inference that the only reason any cabbie would not want to incur additional costs is because it might stop them from their main aim which is to abuse young white girls. ." Of course there was, and why I quoted the OP and said the same thing. I answer posts on their merit, and not on previous posts. I was answering someone who had quoted a different post altogether, so I was talking about that post specifically rather than the OP, which was about abuse that had gone on in Rotherham. | |||
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"To me, it's a response to the effect of what happened, not really dealing with the beliefs around what caused it. Can't help thinking what my response would have been if it had been one of my daughters. " the problem is these girls didn't come from secure family homes they were mostly in care or under social services because they parents we're drug/alcohol abusers, the reason they were taken away for days on end is because they had nobody in their life's to make sure they were safe or miss them it's a sad fact that the most vulnerable kids were failed by society, even sadder that kids in care didn't feel important enough to help everybody turned a blind eye to it I can honestly say it wouldn't have happened to one of my daughters because like most of us who love our kids my girls where never allowed out unless I knew where they was | |||
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"I was probably coming at it from a different angle then, I was thinking more this take on the story http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/rotherham-taxi-drivers-face-daily-racist-abuse-1-6927524 " Sadly this is what happens when something major happens like this and the OP proved the point perfectly by lumping everyone together. | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! The non tabloid paper reports I have read have stated most assaults are by family members, friends and neighbours. That would suggest that the biggest number of offenders are white men. But then that is obvious and not newsworthy. Shall we start rounding up individual white male parents? Some may remember the Cleveland scandal. People who commit crimes against children are vile no matter what colour or creed. The commentor also ignores the abuse within communities against their own children. I wonder who really is the ostrich!" I don't think you remember the Cleveland scandal Over zealous councils taking children into care , that were found not to have been abused 94 out of 121 were found not to have been abused at all 1400 hundred in Rotherham systematically abused while the authority's turned a blind eye Birmingham , Leicester Oxford the same story hundreds abused but no not Southend unless that still has to come to light | |||
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"To me, it's a response to the effect of what happened, not really dealing with the beliefs around what caused it. Can't help thinking what my response would have been if it had been one of my daughters. the problem is these girls didn't come from secure family homes they were mostly in care or under social services because they parents we're drug/alcohol abusers, the reason they were taken away for days on end is because they had nobody in their life's to make sure they were safe or miss them it's a sad fact that the most vulnerable kids were failed by society, even sadder that kids in care didn't feel important enough to help everybody turned a blind eye to it I can honestly say it wouldn't have happened to one of my daughters because like most of us who love our kids my girls where never allowed out unless I knew where they was" And it hasn't happened to mine either. However, the children are at the effect of those who are causing it, not the other way round. Plus it's not just kids from backgrounds where the parents are not as supportive that are being preyed upon theses days. | |||
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"Sadly this is what happens when something major happens like this and the OP proved the point perfectly by lumping everyone together. " True, and I think it was the implied bigotry (intolerance towards those who hold different opinions, esp.religious, from yourself) that people were speaking out against. Perhaps we should simply have reported the post to a mod and been done with it. | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people. now dont come on here with facts that will burst the little bubble of those with an agenda now.. i mean really.. To be fair, I thought the post was talking about the Rotherham abuse that did actually happen. Sadly when anyone talks about it you get shot down. It is well documented if you want to look it up. the assumption or inference from the OP is that all taxi drivers are Asian in that area and that they were all linked to the disgusting issue's that took place there.. not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there... there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame.. to be fair nowhere at all has the OP even mentioned the nationality of the taxi drivers or said all drivers are asian" to be fair thats right but they have a history.. | |||
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" not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there... there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame.. You were not quoting the OP The OP didn't mention any religion. " yep, my bad but thats to whom i was referring | |||
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"I'm not for fitting cctv in cabs unless the cab driver wishes too. I am how in favour of rounding up the gangs of mainly Muslim men who are grooming under age girls with the intent of using them as sex slaves and prostitute's while driving them around the country where there gang rapped by mainly Muslim men again while given drugs and other presents.... But judging by some ostriches on here I'm guessing they'll continue to get away with it for fucking years because some people are so bleeding unwilling to upset anyone who's not a bleeding maypole dancer!... Religions that have a "problem" with sex nearly always produce humans that have a problem with sex! I work with serious and high risk offenders. In the last 2 years I have had around 250 serious sex offenders on my case load. About 2% were Muslim. Hardly a 'mainly'. Try getting your facts straight before hanging people." The last census had about 6% of the population as Asian, with about 90% white. The last CEOP report, which drew figures from 46 police forces and 11 children's agencies, that I know of concluded that 28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites. A further study of the 18 gang grooming trials since 1997 found that of the 56 men convicted, 53 were asian. These reports in themselves show Asians are between 12 and 26 times more likely to be grooming children. However, a further report concluded that the ethnicity itself should not be taken in isolation, but rather the professions of people perpetrating child grooming... which is more likely to be from 'night time professions' involved with the public... e.g. taxi drivers and fast food outlets. It said that the overwhelming proportion of people involved in this work are Asian, and as such they are more likely to have access to children vulnerable to grooming and exploitation. Whatever the case, I think it a sad indictment if our society that we fail to be able to protect our children. But then again, if you look at the evidence of high level establishment cover-ups, there's no wonder. | |||
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"My regular taxi firm has cctv in all the cars as the drivers say good back up if there accused of anything by a d*unk passenger " In my opinion they should have cctv Be clearly marked with also light on top , be the same colour and be metered .Works well in Germany . | |||
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"28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites. " It goes on to say "those working in protecting children from sexual abuse worry that the wrong message is being given about who poses dangers to children from the media coverage of "Asian grooming gangs". They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators." Not so much ostriches, but looking the wrong way and missing the bigger picture? | |||
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"28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites. It goes on to say "those working in protecting children from sexual abuse worry that the wrong message is being given about who poses dangers to children from the media coverage of "Asian grooming gangs". "Those working in protecting children from sexual abuse " The point is they didn't protect them ! The message sent out was a cohesive society is more important than protecting children . The Police and social workers turned the other way , no buried their heads rather than do their job Because it was in the main Asian men molesting white girls ! It is indefensible ! They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators." Not so much ostriches, but looking the wrong way and missing the bigger picture?" | |||
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"I'm not interested in the numbers of white people doing it or fit that instance any black people doing it, if anyone cared to look I never mentioned colour of someone skin, I did mention the thought process that's given to them from a religious belief regarding sex! The other thing I mentioned is the ability to get away with it longer than they should have because they were Muslim!! Now for all those quoting the coloured figures... I never once said anything about numbers or colours of skin.... I said they got away with it from being Muslim or as I also pointed out catholic. Now altogether put your heads in the sand and pretend the problem doesn't exist because that's how they managed to get away with it longer than they should have! " Exactly and it is Indefensible !!!! | |||
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"Sadly this is what happens when something major happens like this and the OP proved the point perfectly by lumping everyone together. True, and I think it was the implied bigotry (intolerance towards those who hold different opinions, esp.religious, from yourself) that people were speaking out against. Perhaps we should simply have reported the post to a mod and been done with it. " Go for it. Tarring people with the same brush is not against rules, if it was there would be a lot of people banned. | |||
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" not an issue talking about many subjects as you know Ruggers but some have an agenda on here and will use anything to keep the bigotry out there... there is totally common ground that what took place was abhorrent 'from all sides' and a debate is fine but the way the OP is worded is deliberately to inflame.. You were not quoting the OP The OP didn't mention any religion. yep, my bad but thats to whom i was referring " No worries, it was just a bit confusing as I was answering what you were quoting, which was of a specific case. | |||
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"My regular taxi firm has cctv in all the cars as the drivers say good back up if there accused of anything by a d*unk passenger " Lots of insurance firms are asking Taxi drivers to have cameras so it isn't just the councils....it has to be a good thing from the drivers point of view | |||
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" The other thing I mentioned is the ability to get away with it longer than they should have because they were Muslim!! " Did they? Longer than Jimmy Saville et al? Longer than the catholic priests? (Granted you mentioned them initially, but they got away for longer too) Longer than the MPs recently not prosecuted? Longer than the teachers/headmasters such as those outed by John Hurt? But no, let us ignore those figures, unless they fit our preconceived notions. Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. | |||
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" The other thing I mentioned is the ability to get away with it longer than they should have because they were Muslim!! Did they? Longer than Jimmy Saville et al? Longer than the catholic priests? (Granted you mentioned them initially, but they got away for longer too) Longer than the MPs recently not prosecuted? Longer than the teachers/headmasters such as those outed by John Hurt? But no, let us ignore those figures, unless they fit our preconceived notions. Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. " | |||
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" The other thing I mentioned is the ability to get away with it longer than they should have because they were Muslim!! Did they? Longer than Jimmy Saville et al? Longer than the catholic priests? (Granted you mentioned them initially, but they got away for longer too) Longer than the MPs recently not prosecuted? Longer than the teachers/headmasters such as those outed by John Hurt? But no, let us ignore those figures, unless they fit our preconceived notions. Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. " yes they did ! Well documented as well They got away with it for as long as they did and still do ,because they were Asian and their victims young white girls and no matter how much you try the cases you quote do not diminish the abusers crimes ! | |||
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" Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. " this.. | |||
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" Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. " This. | |||
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" Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. This." that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated | |||
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" Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. This.that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated " Oh really? That's not what I read in the Rotherham reports. Which specifically criticised elements of the police and others for not taking some of the reports seriously enough because of the "type" of young girls who were making them. | |||
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" Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. This.that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated Oh really? That's not what I read in the Rotherham reports. Which specifically criticised elements of the police and others for not taking some of the reports seriously enough because of the "type" of young girls who were making them. " and other people did believe them but didn't want to rock the boat . Also true in Oxford and Birmingham | |||
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" Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. This.that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated Oh really? That's not what I read in the Rotherham reports. Which specifically criticised elements of the police and others for not taking some of the reports seriously enough because of the "type" of young girls who were making them. and other people did believe them but didn't want to rock the boat . Also true in Oxford and Birmingham" I'm not disputing that, but it's fair to say if these had been nice middle class girls there wouldn't have been the same cover up in any of those cases. | |||
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" Society has a history of believing seemingly respectable adults over the voices of vulnerable children. It is that that needs to change. This.that is not the case in Rotherham or other cities where these grooming gangs operated Oh really? That's not what I read in the Rotherham reports. Which specifically criticised elements of the police and others for not taking some of the reports seriously enough because of the "type" of young girls who were making them. and other people did believe them but didn't want to rock the boat . Also true in Oxford and Birmingham I'm not disputing that, but it's fair to say if these had been nice middle class girls there wouldn't have been the same cover up in any of those cases. " Maybe so However with hundreds of girls involved over years | |||
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"28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites. It goes on to say "those working in protecting children from sexual abuse worry that the wrong message is being given about who poses dangers to children from the media coverage of "Asian grooming gangs". They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators." Not so much ostriches, but looking the wrong way and missing the bigger picture?" I would try reading all of what I said if I were you, and not cherry picking one part of it, ...however, the report actually said that two thirds of child protection agencies were not meeting national guidelines, and that Asians were more likely to carry out gang grooming. | |||
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"28% of 'grooming' sex offenders were Asian, 30% white, and 38% ethnicity not known. Part of these conclusions were that Asians were therefore far more likely to groom children than whites. It goes on to say "those working in protecting children from sexual abuse worry that the wrong message is being given about who poses dangers to children from the media coverage of "Asian grooming gangs". They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators." Not so much ostriches, but looking the wrong way and missing the bigger picture? I would try reading all of what I said if I were you, and not cherry picking one part of it, ...however, the report actually said that two thirds of child protection agencies were not meeting national guidelines, and that Asians were more likely to carry out gang grooming. " And I also mentioned about establishment abuse, which you chose to ignore from my post as well.. However. I have worked extensively in Birmingham, Rochdale and Rotherham, and can speak from experience that the majority of gangs that are grooming are Asian. I'm sorry if that doesn't sit well with some people, but that's how it is. As for establishment abuse, something really needs to be done about it, and those people prosecuted before they die or become 'mentally incapable'. | |||
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