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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Does anyone else find it weird that the BBC have always insisted the TV license wasn't to pay for the BBC until recently?

It's unimportant but it's also bugging me.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Where did you read that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Elaborate?

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Does anyone else find it weird that the BBC have always insisted the TV license wasn't to pay for the BBC until recently?

It's unimportant but it's also bugging me."

Doesn't it also fund channels like S4C, local itv and transmission costs?

I like the way the BBC state the licence fee keeps UK telly free from 'political interference', as if the appointment of the heads of the BBC isn't political...

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone else find it weird that the BBC have always insisted the TV license wasn't to pay for the BBC until recently?

It's unimportant but it's also bugging me."

Ive never heard the bbc claim the license fee wasnt to pay for the bbc. I mean if there was no license fee the bbc would not exist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pisses me off paying for it when I have sky and I usually only watch sky living.. If I had a choice I wouldnt receive any bbc channel at all

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

BBC used to insist the money wasn't for the BBC, especially the guys who come round asking you to buy a TV license when you don't have one and said it was to receive live broadcasting. Well i've not had a license for 4 yrs coz i don't watch TV, then the government said in the budget that the BBC have to find the free funding for over 75 yr olds and that's what i found a bit weird. So i headed to the TV licensing website and saw what DDC said and just thought it was strange that after years of saying the TV license wasn't to fund the BBC now they're saying it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The licence fee doesn't just cover the BBC (tv, radio, Internet, catch up etc) is also covers S4C, local channels and also broadband roll out across the UK. It is not politically motivated (unlike all newspapers and other TV channel providers) and it provides coverage of subjects which otherwise would never get highlighted as not commercially viable...

It works out at 40p per day per household which given the content that it provides is amazing. Its the envy of the world and lets just hope this sh1te government doesn't dismantle something that is truly great and unique.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol you cant rely on the bbc to tell you the truth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The licence fee doesn't just cover the BBC (tv, radio, Internet, catch up etc) is also covers S4C, local channels and also broadband roll out across the UK. It is not politically motivated (unlike all newspapers and other TV channel providers) and it provides coverage of subjects which otherwise would never get highlighted as not commercially viable...

this is your opinion and not one i agree with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pisses me off paying for it when I have sky and I usually only watch sky living.. If I had a choice I wouldnt receive any bbc channel at all"

Totally agree. It's very rare I watch the BBC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lol you cant rely on the bbc to tell you the truth

Brilliant, insightful and I'm guessing fully supported by fact... Personally Id trust the BBC over any other news outlet... Or do you only trust the Internet and Sky?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The BBC is one (in a long list) of things that really grinds my gears.

They should stick to documentaries and try and make impartial news coverage. That's it.

I'm never going to pay a TV license. Ever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is your opinion and not one i agree with

Thanks for pointing out the obvious... I wasnt sure people would notice that it was my opinion and a few facts thrown in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pisses me off paying for it when I have sky and I usually only watch sky living.. If I had a choice I wouldnt receive any bbc channel at all

Totally agree. It's very rare I watch the BBC."

At least with BBC you pay and get no adverts, unlike Sky adverts galore and £30-£50 a month.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lol you cant rely on the bbc to tell you the truth

Brilliant, insightful and I'm guessing fully supported by fact... Personally Id trust the BBC over any other news outlet... Or do you only trust the Internet and Sky?

nope i have a mind of my own and i trust it thanks

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think it's good value for money if i did use it.

It's just the BBC have always insisted that the license fee is not collected on their behalf and is collected so people can watch any TV as it's broadcast live. Even though we all know the BBC takes most of the funds from everything collected.

Now they have to find the funds for free TV licenses to the over 75s and that seems to contradicts what the BBC has always said?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pisses me off paying for it when I have sky and I usually only watch sky living.. If I had a choice I wouldnt receive any bbc channel at all

Totally agree. It's very rare I watch the BBC.

At least with BBC you pay and get no adverts, unlike Sky adverts galore and £30-£50 a month."

I quite like the adverts, i pay £30 a month for tv, line rental and fibre broad band which is pretty damn cheap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is your opinion and not one i agree with

Thanks for pointing out the obvious... I wasnt sure people would notice that it was my opinion and a few facts thrown in

well when i said this is your opinion i was being sarcastic. It sounds like some copy n paste BS propaganda the bbc puts out to justify its existence and the license fee.Did you not know the bbc was created as a propaganda tool ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nope i have a mind of my own and i trust it thanks

enjoy forming those opinions without using sources other than your own mind for information

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

And whilst looking for the answer myself on youtube i came across a video that points out the BBC created childwatch and childline for abused kids and Esther Rantzen was friends with Jimmy Savile. I think i will stop looking into this matter now...it's getting too weird and creepy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pisses me off paying for it when I have sky and I usually only watch sky living.. If I had a choice I wouldnt receive any bbc channel at all

Totally agree. It's very rare I watch

the BBC.

At least with BBC you pay and get no adverts, unlike Sky adverts galore and £30-£50 a month.

I quite like the adverts, i pay £30 a month for tv, line rental and fibre broad band which is pretty damn cheap"

It's pricey with all the bundles, £30 for all ain't bad. Plus I could never argue with the owner of such a sexy rear end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"BBC used to insist the money wasn't for the BBC, especially the guys who come round asking you to buy a TV license when you don't have one and said it was to receive live broadcasting. Well i've not had a license for 4 yrs coz i don't watch TV, then the government said in the budget that the BBC have to find the free funding for over 75 yr olds and that's what i found a bit weird. So i headed to the TV licensing website and saw what DDC said and just thought it was strange that after years of saying the TV license wasn't to fund the BBC now they're saying it is.

You seem to have misunderstood. The license is required is you view live broadcasts or record them.

The money goes mainly to the BBC and partly to other broadcasters as well.

The BBC has used the money over the years to put itself at the heart do most research and development of broadcasting technology not just for programs.

The license funds the BBC in part (the BBC sells it's programs for millions around the world though)

The BBC art paying for the free licenses for the elderly they simply have to deal with having their budget slashed from the license fees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's good value for money if i did use it.

Now they have to find the funds for free TV licenses to the over 75s and that seems to contradicts what the BBC has always said?"

Except that any TV broadcast in the country (and most others) uses technology developed by the BBC.

Not sky, not Virgin or anyone else but the BBC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nope i have a mind of my own and i trust it thanks

enjoy forming those opinions without using sources other than your own mind for information

The BBC are still paying compensation to Jimmy Savile's victims out of your license fee money. Quality programming my arse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nope i have a mind of my own and i trust it thanks

enjoy forming those opinions without using sources other than your own mind for information

Yes. I do, very much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The BBC is one (in a long list) of things that really grinds my gears.

They should stick to documentaries and try and make impartial news coverage. That's it.

I'm never going to pay a TV license. Ever."

Why should they they sell their entertainment programs around the world for an absolute fortune.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree it's worth it. I watch far more BBC programming than ITV and C4 or 5. I have to pay to watch Netflix or Sky produced series so why not BBC produced content?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And whilst looking for the answer myself on youtube i came across a video that points out the BBC created childwatch and childline for abused kids and Esther Rantzen was friends with Jimmy Savile. I think i will stop looking into this matter now...it's getting too weird and creepy."

Just because Esther Rantzen was friends with Savile (if she was, I don't know, can't say I've ever investigated it) doesn't make Childline dodgy. There isn't a conspiracy in everything, sometimes it's just a coincidence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree it's worth it. I watch far more BBC programming than ITV and C4 or 5. I have to pay to watch Netflix or Sky produced series so why not BBC produced content? "

But how much is it actually worth to you? I think 40p per day is too much for a service I don't use, and could easily do without. How much would you be willing to pay to keep it going if people like me could opt out?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pisses me off paying for it when I have sky and I usually only watch sky living.. If I had a choice I wouldnt receive any bbc channel at all

Totally agree. It's very rare I watch

the BBC.

At least with BBC you pay and get no adverts, unlike Sky adverts galore and £30-£50 a month.

I quite like the adverts, i pay £30 a month for tv, line rental and fibre broad band which is pretty damn cheap

It's pricey with all the bundles, £30 for all ain't bad. Plus I could never argue with the owner of such a sexy rear end

Yeah its a pretty good deal.. If I could just hahe a package with sky living and kerrang id be happy as i dont watch other channels lol!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree it's worth it. I watch far more BBC programming than ITV and C4 or 5. I have to pay to watch Netflix or Sky produced series so why not BBC produced content?

But you do use it if you use a television to watch broadcasts you are using standards and equipment and technology headed by the BBC.

You can opt out by not using this technology by not watching live television

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Completely agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree it's worth it. I watch far more BBC programming than ITV and C4 or 5. I have to pay to watch Netflix or Sky produced series so why not BBC produced content?

I'd pay a bit more if I had to, would probably stop paying for Netflix and spend that on the BBC instead.

Or maybe we'll have to put up with adverts on it, or some other means of funding.

Or the government could be brave and roll it into general taxation, after all I pay for an awful lot of things I don't use that way....(other people's children, for example....) but that's a whole other debate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd

Seriously the R&D the bbc has done and has only been able to do because of how it's funded over the last century is astounding.

You use lots of stuff they helped develop every day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Or the government could be brave and roll it into general taxation, after all I pay for an awful lot of things I don't use that way....(other people's children, for example....) but that's a whole other debate

Ahh come on - there is a massive difference between providing education for our next generation or healthcare for the old/sick/whatever in our society than paying for politically motivated news, shit and poorly acted period dramas, and terrible soaps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or the principals of the microphone that's used in your mobile phone?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or all the education programs and sites the BBC maintains on nearly all school subjects?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Or the principals of the microphone that's used in your mobile phone?"

Yeah, I get your point loud and clear.

Do you not think the tech/military sector has all that shit covered now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or all the education programs and sites the BBC maintains on nearly all school subjects?

Again, there are other resources.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like period dramas and BBC news. I'm with you on Eastenders so I'll let that slide.

I just think the BBC is valuable. Things like the World Service even more so. You may think other things are valuable that I don't value. We really don't pay that much for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Or the principals of the microphone that's used in your mobile phone?

Yeah, I get your point loud and clear.

Do you not think the tech/military sector has all that shit covered now?"

Not even close. Because the tech and military sector doesn't do television broadcasting.

It's enshrined in law that the BBC had to carry out research to a level that keeps it at the front of world development.

Digital TV the standards for how to transmit information over radio all of that is headed by the BBC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh and one interesting thing those "terrible soaps" actually affect the electricity generation for half of Europe based on the British desire to have a cupper at the end of eastenders

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like period dramas and BBC news. I'm with you on Eastenders so I'll let that slide.

I just think the BBC is valuable. Things like the World Service even more so. You may think other things are valuable that I don't value. We really don't pay that much for it. "

And if you dislike politically motivated news, which news channel do you watch?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think it's good value for money if i did use it.

Now they have to find the funds for free TV licenses to the over 75s and that seems to contradicts what the BBC has always said?

Except that any TV broadcast in the country (and most others) uses technology developed by the BBC.

Not sky, not Virgin or anyone else but the BBC. "

Funny that you can't opt out of the license fund if you have these only?

Some americans think we're weird paying for TV licenses at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh and one interesting thing those "terrible soaps" actually affect the electricity generation for half of Europe based on the British desire to have a cupper at the end of eastenders"

It's still shite though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not even close. Because the tech and military sector doesn't do television broadcasting."

Are you trying to tell me the military isn't interested in relaying visual communications?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And if you dislike politically motivated news, which news channel do you watch? "

I read, and from several different sources.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yeah i know. Just saying i ended up in thw eird part of youtube so am giving it a rest. Plus THX has given a lot of good info in here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's good value for money if i did use it.

Now they have to find the funds for free TV licenses to the over 75s and that seems to contradicts what the BBC has always said?

Except that any TV broadcast in the country (and most others) uses technology developed by the BBC.

Not sky, not Virgin or anyone else but the BBC.

Funny that you can't opt out of the license fund if you have these only?

Some americans think we're weird paying for TV licenses at all."

If you have sky your still using BBC equipment and technology though.

Yeah and we think Americans are weirs because they pay more in tax for health care per person than we do but then they have to pay a second time for health insurance on top of that instead do it coming out of the massive spending on health care which is more per head than the UK spends for the nhs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And if you dislike politically motivated news, which news channel do you watch?

I read, and from several different sources."

Why not just buy a wire service subscription and actually have the unbiased reports that everyone uses to write their version of the news?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why not just buy a wire service subscription and actually have the unbiased reports that everyone uses to write their version of the news?"

Like?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And if you dislike politically motivated news, which news channel do you watch?

I read, and from several different sources."

As do I. When there's a big breaking news event though, I'm putting the Beeb on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not even close. Because the tech and military sector doesn't do television broadcasting.

Are you trying to tell me the military isn't interested in relaying visual communications?"

Not on open standards for the mass production of receivers and transmitters for civilian spectrum broadcast no.

Mainly because the military doesn't feel the need to start a TV company oddly enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why not just buy a wire service subscription and actually have the unbiased reports that everyone uses to write their version of the news?

Like?"

The main one would be AP of course?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And if you dislike politically motivated news, which news channel do you watch?

I read, and from several different sources.

As do I. When there's a big breaking news event though, I'm putting the Beeb on."

I'm not going to bang a drum because it's Sunday and I can't be arsed, but the with the BBC it's less about what they tell you and more about what they don't; massively important things go on which they do not report on at all. Why? I'll let you fill in the blanks.

No thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not even close. Because the tech and military sector doesn't do television broadcasting.

Are you trying to tell me the military isn't interested in relaying visual communications?

Not on open standards for the mass production of receivers and transmitters for civilian spectrum broadcast no.

Mainly because the military doesn't feel the need to start a TV company oddly enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And if you dislike politically motivated news, which news channel do you watch?

I read, and from several different sources.

As do I. When there's a big breaking news event though, I'm putting the Beeb on.

No thanks."

Fair enough. I disagree though. All news outlets, be they print, online or television, report through a certain prism, no matter how independent they claim to be. It's naive to think otherwise.

But I trust the BBC more than the others, or perhaps it accords most closely with my own political viewpoint, so I'm happy to pay for it. Anyone who feels that strongly about paying for it can stop watching live TV so they don't have to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And if you dislike politically motivated news, which news channel do you watch?

I read, and from several different sources.

As do I. When there's a big breaking news event though, I'm putting the Beeb on."

Yep, me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not even close. Because the tech and military sector doesn't do television broadcasting.

Are you trying to tell me the military isn't interested in relaying visual communications?

Not on open standards for the mass production of receivers and transmitters for civilian spectrum broadcast no.

Mainly because the military doesn't feel the need to start a TV company oddly enough.

.why the roll eyes.

Do you think all the companies that make TVs, programs, video cameras, encoding programs, radio transmitters, satellites and receivers all just stumbled on to compatibility despite most of them competing against each other?

no standards are made and in the field of television the BBC plays a huge part in that the fact they don't have to play it as safe with their research because of their funding and the fact they are obligated to do research means they stay very current.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah i know. Just saying i ended up in thw eird part of youtube so am giving it a rest. Plus THX has given a lot of good info in here."

Videos of goats is where I usually end up on YouTube

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

".why the roll eyes.

As stated before I get your angle (I really do), but your conclusion was patronising and ridiculous; technology does not equal application.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look at it this way when it's left up to "tech" as you put it we had

betamax vs vhs

And

HD-DVD vs bluray.

The BBC in this country at least acts as big single driver that helps defines most standards.

imagine the ball ache of different formats when it comes to broadcasting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nope i have a mind of my own and i trust it thanks

enjoy forming those opinions without using sources other than your own mind for information

Yes. I do, very much.

Using news as an information source is like using eastenders for marriage guidance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't want to get suckered in to this - I just have a strong view on the BBC as stated in my first comment. I do agree it should be a world service but restricted to news and documentaries (and the like).

FYI I don't watch live TV. I do have which I've switched on once.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would pay 40p per day just for Radio 4.

I am not a fan of BBC light entertainment and rather wish they would leave that to the other channels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have a TV license but I also don't watch programmes as they are being aired on TV. Telly is a load of rubbish I'd rather find documentaries and other stuff to watch online.

Peach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nope i have a mind of my own and i trust it thanks

enjoy forming those opinions without using sources other than your own mind for information

Yes. I do, very much.

Using news as an information source is like using eastenders for marriage guidance. "

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By *ubicinchMan
over a year ago

Gwynedd

stopped paying licence fee a few years ago, I have atv but hardly ever watch it, especially the beeb. Its all online now. Just get the odd threatening letter but just bin it, not even in my name now. But after the talk of it being abolished, they u turned on it and now going to charge for watching iplayer...

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I would pay 40p per day just for Radio 4.

........ "

Agreed.

Less than £120 a year for everything the BBC offers is astonishingly good value for money, especially when you look at the price of Sky/ Virgin bundles.

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By *ampWithABrainWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

There would never be unbiased news coverage as all humans have a bias and that's who reports the news. Same problem as with history records.

They are abolishing the exemption for watching live streaming and I think the government are looking at abolishing the exemption for pensioners.

The BBC does an awful lot more than people realise. Including providing TV and radio for the military overseas.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

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The BBC does an awful lot more than people realise. Including providing TV and radio for the military overseas.

Even something as simple as the Shipping Forecast (mentioned elsewhere) adds to the overall value. The Shipping Forecast saves lives.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

At least with BBC you pay and get no adverts, unlike Sky adverts galore and £30-£50 a month."

Come off it the BBC is always advertising not only their own programmes but comercial companies as well.

When I used to run my son to work at 5am a couple of months ago Alka-Seltzer was advertised every day in a one of the early morning programs (Vanessa Pelps) on radio two and probably still is these days.

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

The BBC "Bias" over The Scottish Independence Vote..

BBC Live Video Showing Twenty or Thirty or so NO voters..

At the Same Time - Thousands are a few Streets Away Shouting YES !!!

The Bias in the Reporting For the Whole Thing Was Quite Staggering

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The BBC "Bias" over The Scottish Independence Vote..

BBC Live Video Showing Twenty or Thirty or so NO voters..

At the Same Time - Thousands are a few Streets Away Shouting YES !!!

The Bias in the Reporting For the Whole Thing Was Quite Staggering

Just remind us of the result.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

WHS

And for those who have never lived abroad then you wont realise just how good the BBC is. Defimitely not perfect but you really shouldnt think life would be better without it. Pay the licence fee and be grateful you have the best media in the world because the bulk of stations have followed where the BBC have led

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

"The BBC "Bias" over The Scottish Independence Vote..

BBC Live Video Showing Twenty or Thirty or so NO voters..

At the Same Time - Thousands are a few Streets Away Shouting YES !!!

The Bias in the Reporting For the Whole Thing Was Quite Staggering

Just remind us of the result."

The RESULT Had Nothing to Do With The BIAS in the Reporting of the Event !!!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The BBC "Bias" over The Scottish Independence Vote..

BBC Live Video Showing Twenty or Thirty or so NO voters..

At the Same Time - Thousands are a few Streets Away Shouting YES !!!

The Bias in the Reporting For the Whole Thing Was Quite Staggering

Just remind us of the result.

The RESULT Had Nothing to Do With The BIAS in the Reporting of the Event !!!"

Just remind us anyway.

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

"The BBC "Bias" over The Scottish Independence Vote..

BBC Live Video Showing Twenty or Thirty or so NO voters..

At the Same Time - Thousands are a few Streets Away Shouting YES !!!

The Bias in the Reporting For the Whole Thing Was Quite Staggering

Just remind us of the result.

The RESULT Had Nothing to Do With The BIAS in the Reporting of the Event !!!

Just remind us anyway."

Ok.. The Result Was The BBC Were BIASED about Their Reporting and Thousands of People Protested outside their Glasgow HQ.. ok..

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

BBC = Corporation or Corruption ???

They Wont Get another Penny From us.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I would pay 40p per day just for Radio 4.

I am not a fan of BBC light entertainment and rather wish they would leave that to the other channels. "

I would pay 40p a day for radio 5 and the local radio broadcasting they do....

during the day the website I look at most at work is the BBC website....

its not all just about tv... but i bet people don't knock for example the work from the natural history unit which is world leading....

I think a lot of people take the remit of the BBC for granted.... you want pure commercial TV.. look at the states! there big channels (ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox) aren't making non-profit TV... they aren't really making great drama other... that is left to the likes of Showtime and HBO and Netflixs

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I just think the BBC is valuable. Things like the World Service even more so. You may think other things are valuable that I don't value. We really don't pay that much for it. "

just as an aside with regards to the world service.... it use to actually be paid for by the FCO (Foreign Office) and as one of the first "victims" of austerity, its funding was "switched" to come out of the general BBC budget.... just like the over 75's TV license will....

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

I know your a respected poster Fabio..

But IN The UK - Little Things Like The Referendum Coverage.

The Riots in London Were Non Existent under the BBC..

Then You Get Things Like This..

"BBC sends "407" staff to Glastonbury but does not broadcast full sets"

That Bit was Also copied and pasted from a BBC website page !!

what's going on.. !!

Loads of BBC Staff having Jollies at the Licence Payers Expense..

For Example - F1 Coverage could also be another Considered another TV Licence payer Jolly for the nicely paid Stars that present it !!..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know your a respected poster Fabio..

But IN The UK - Little Things Like The Referendum Coverage.

The Riots in London Were Non Existent under the BBC..

Then You Get Things Like This..

"BBC sends "407" staff to Glastonbury but does not broadcast full sets"

That Bit was Also copied and pasted from a BBC website page !!

what's going on.. !!

Loads of BBC Staff having Jollies at the Licence Payers Expense..

For Example - F1 Coverage could also be another Considered another TV Licence payer Jolly for the nicely paid Stars that present it !!.. "

Gosh don't you know anything, the 'riots' were a popular uprising of the downtrodden prolateriat and that's why the BBC coverage needed to focus on 'the message' of our fellow comrades - rather than the fact they were mindless, greedy gob shites who shamed the entire country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've always had this viewpoint on it.

If I'm paying for a TV licence ITV don't get to show me Ads...

I'm happy to pay a licence fee FOR THE BBC.

But if it's for ITV, channel 4 etc..etc.. to show me Ads, then they should buy their own Airspace.

And if they want to introduce a licence fee that's fine, but I wouldn't pay it.

Because if I am, I think they STILL don't get to show me Ads.

I have no issue with a licence fee, I mean, someone has to pay for all the Airtime right?..

But why the fuck do ITV get to me show me Ads...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you joking about the riots? It was wall to wall coverage of the bloody riots, which was kind of annoying actually as there wasn't a peep of trouble up here.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

If I have a criticism of Auntie, it's that it seems to take an amazing number of people to make a programme, especially compared to European prog makers.

My pet hate is the need to have someone 'on the scene'. The stretch of motorway re the fatal crash couple could have been just about anywhere and having a shift of people pointing at it added nothing to the story.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least with BBC you pay and get no adverts, unlike Sky adverts galore and £30-£50 a month.

Come off it the BBC is always advertising not only their own programmes but comercial companies as well.

And John Noakes was always getting into trouble for saying Sellotape rather than sticky tape. Should a sweet shop have bare shelves in a bbc prog? Thats product placement rather than advertising.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought the ladies would be happy to pay 40p for a quality big black cock

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By *ike4362ukMan
over a year ago

Cheshunt

Having travelled to many countries and seen TV in a lot of them, I'm very glad that we have the BBC in it's present format. It's one of the premier program producers and it's format withour intrusive adverts is excellent.

I'm sure that it could be trimmed to remove alot of repeats and 'space fillers'. But it's general quality is way above any other channel that I'm aware of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think two important points have been missed during all the BBC bashing, so just to remind people:

1) the licence fee is ultimately a decision. You can pay for it OR you may decide not too. If you do decide not to then you give up the right to watch live TV and also in the future to access the BBC online and catch up services (which is currently free content anyone can access irrespective of licence fee).

2) the BBC have very little to do with setting the licence fee (they make a recommendation the government then decides). If you think this is complete b0llocks (aka another conspiracy) then id like to see you argue why the BBC is cutting one of its sources of funding...

So how about a new perspective. Don't view the licence fee as the BBC subscription service, view the licence fee as a tax to watch TV. The same way we have taxes to run a car, go shopping, fly on a plane, earn money, go fishing in specific locations, cover state pentions etc etc.

The difference in this 'tax' is that its optional and if you do decide to pay you access the greatest media provider in the world from all over the world...

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