FabSwingers.com forum: Young, beautiful and full of hate

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I've had a girl on my hotlist for some time, purely due to her rather stunning pics, but something I cannot understand is her profile itself (no admin she won't be named, there's no shaming going on here).

As the title implies, so much of what she has written implies that she HATES swinging, males in particular, despite the fact her profile claims she's looking for them. She has a long list of do's and don'ts, her regular profile updates are typically filled with venom, and an overall feeling of intense negativity toward the world in general resonates.

Whilst I'm using this one in particular as an example, it's not the first girls like this that I've seen. I often wonder, how someone who appears to have so much going for them, who's appearance has almost certainly gotten doors held open for them in the past, impeccable manners from total strangers, drinks bought for them in bars and all manner of other social privileges that they clearly take for granted - in fact, I strongly suspect that she'll also be graced with folks rushing to defend her with arguments like 'but you don't know what challenges she's faced in the past', arguments which, ironically, you'll never see levied in defence of similarly upset and angry single males...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Young and beautiful. Doesn't matter what they write or if its filled with venom. Will still have people falling at their feet.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a fallacy. Beautiful people aren't always happier.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

You sound a little bitter about it but there is nothing you can do about it. I wouldn't worry about it...it's easy to understand

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've had a girl on my hotlist for some time, purely due to her rather stunning pics, but something I cannot understand is her profile itself (no admin she won't be named, there's no shaming going on here).

Maybe it's the fact she's so stunning and has men jumping through hoops for her that's turned her into a self centered hater

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You sound a little bitter about it but there is nothing you can do about it. I wouldn't worry about it...it's easy to understand"

I'll happily admit that it does make me bitter, not so much toward these sort of girls in question, but rather the jaded nature of human nature in general.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Maybe it's the fact she's so stunning and has men jumping through hoops for her that's turned her into a self centered hater

I was actually thinking similar, how can she find a MAN in her life, when she's come to see males in general as a bunch of toadies ready to fall at her feet for the slightest bit of attention.

Controversial as it may sound, I believe that what a woman REALLY wants is a MAN who treats her with respect, but isn't afraid to tell her to fuck off when she fails to show him the same.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

Quite sad really that someone that outwardly appears to have so much going for them can actually end up in a place of so much hate.

Just goes to show that how you look is definitely not a path to happiness. Infant it has very little bearing on it at all.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Obviously I can't speak about this particular lady as I don't know her but sometimes Diva-type behaviour happens simply because they can get away with it!

Think of some famous pop stars or movie stars that are classed as Divas - they can act like that as people will fawn over them and attend to their needs anyway and as such, while others continue to be suck up to them and accept their behaviour, they get a sense of entitlement and superiority.

An attractive lady (or man) used to having men fall their feet can often get away with this sort of behaviour because there will always be people that cede to their demands!

It's just the way life is at times - there's a natural order to things and aesthetic beauty often trumps other forms of beauty in terms of opportunity and getting on in life.

(Standard disclaimer: of course there are lots of beautiful and lovely charactered people out there too!

)

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe it's the fact she's so stunning and has men jumping through hoops for her that's turned her into a self centered hater

I was actually thinking similar, how can she find a MAN in her life, when she's come to see males in general as a bunch of toadies ready to fall at her feet for the slightest bit of attention.

Controversial as it may sound, I believe that what a woman REALLY wants is a MAN who treats her with respect, but isn't afraid to tell her to fuck off when she fails to show him the same."

Not everyone desires a relationship.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Quite sad really that someone that outwardly appears to have so much going for them can actually end up in a place of so much hate.

Just goes to show that how you look is definitely not a path to happiness. Infant it has very little bearing on it at all."

Infact... (Wish this forum had an edit function!)

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

me being beautiful doesnt make the f**kwits go away

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quite sad really that someone that outwardly appears to have so much going for them can actually end up in a place of so much hate.

Just goes to show that how you look is definitely not a path to happiness. Infant it has very little bearing on it at all."

yeah shag a munter apparently we are more fun

my inbox is second left

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Some people are just bloody miserable

That's all

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Quite sad really that someone that outwardly appears to have so much going for them can actually end up in a place of so much hate.

Just goes to show that how you look is definitely not a path to happiness. Infant it has very little bearing on it at all.

yeah shag a munter apparently we are more fun

my inbox is second left

Lol

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some people are just bloody miserable

That's all"

I agree

not always anything to do with looks or past life experience

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

The age old saying that sometimes beauty is only skin deep.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe it's the fact she's so stunning and has men jumping through hoops for her that's turned her into a self centered hater

I was actually thinking similar, how can she find a MAN in her life, when she's come to see males in general as a bunch of toadies ready to fall at her feet for the slightest bit of attention.

Controversial as it may sound, I believe that what a woman REALLY wants is a MAN who treats her with respect, but isn't afraid to tell her to fuck off when she fails to show him the same."

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Obviously I can't speak about this particular lady as I don't know her but sometimes Diva-type behaviour happens simply because they can get away with it!

Rather like spoilt children then, too used to getting what they want, when they want it, and having their own way. They were never taught respect for others, led to believe that they were special little snowflakes, and now take offence when others don't meet their demands.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *onbons_xxMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Some people are just bloody miserable

That's all"

Agreed!

Don't know whether looks have played a part in attitude towards others but life experiences play a more important part I'd say. Find it strange how sometimes younger people have aged exponentially and are withered by life beyond their years.

She probably needs to take a break and get a hobby

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nobody's perfect. We all have our crosses to bear.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Real beauty is on the inside.

Bloody hell, did I just type that? Get me a bucket

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She probably needs to take a break and get a hobby

exactly.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your op is nothing but a bunch of assumptions from your point of _iew. You see her as beautiful. You see her as full of hate and disliking men. From these assumptions you've created a version of her in your mind. She might perhaps see herself in a totally different light. I might have come up with man assumptions about you, but it doesn't mean any of them are right.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your op is nothing but a bunch of assumptions from your point of _iew. You see her as beautiful. You see her as full of hate and disliking men. From these assumptions you've created a version of her in your mind. She might perhaps see herself in a totally different light. I might have come up with man assumptions about you, but it doesn't mean any of them are right."

And I'm pretty sure you have I know I have about the OP and everybody else I read regular I think that's just human nature

I'm sure I'm wrong about most people though

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

That's a good point Deb, but it's often brought up on here, particularly toward males that you have to think about how you present yourself, and I don't see how that rule should be any different for women.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

She probably needs to take a break and get a hobby

exactly.

Hello lovely

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love some of the profiles that are full of vitriol, if they're a good read I am left chuckling at them.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She probably needs to take a break and get a hobby

exactly.

Hello lovely

xx"

Hellllllo Miss Honey honey. xxx

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couldn't agree more, but what you perceive as negative might be her just trying to state in no uncertain terms what she's looking for. The why of actions are more telling than the actions themselves.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obviously I can't speak about this particular lady as I don't know her but sometimes Diva-type behaviour happens simply because they can get away with it!

An attractive lady (or man) used to having men fall their feet can often get away with this sort of behaviour because there will always be people that cede to their demands!

It's just the way life is at times - there's a natural order to things and aesthetic beauty often trumps other forms of beauty in terms of opportunity and getting on in life.

(Standard disclaimer: of course there are lots of beautiful and lovely charactered people out there too!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some people are just bloody miserable

That's all"

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here's a question, though - she is still on your hotlist...if she were to message you tomorrow saying she would like to meet, would you say no?

And I'm not being funny - I genuinely want to know.

-Courtney

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *amparaWoman
over a year ago

biggleswade

often you will find the most beautiful people have a most sensitive heart,my daughter is a very beautiful woman and yes men fall at her feet but this makes women fear and hate her and in fact sometimes the most beautiful women can be very lonely,she is kind and beautiful inside too but women fear her and men love her

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However an individual appears on the outside , physically stunning or not - they can still have inner demons. Maybe some guys like her feisty side and want to jump through the hoops? Who knows. We all have different things that make us tick.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"often you will find the most beautiful people have a most sensitive heart,my daughter is a very beautiful woman and yes men fall at her feet but this makes women fear and hate her and in fact sometimes the most beautiful women can be very lonely,she is kind and beautiful inside too but women fear her and men love her"

Good point. People often assume that beautiful people will have massive ego's and dislike them without knowing them. When in fact they may be lovely people but no-one will give them a chance.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Here's a question, though - she is still on your hotlist...if she were to message you tomorrow saying she would like to meet, would you say no?

And I'm not being funny - I genuinely want to know.

-Courtney"

It would depend on what she said Courtney, if her mail was to the effect of liking my profile, thinking that we might just like each other and would be interested in hearing from me then I'd be happy to give her a chance, but if it was written more to the effect of 'get your arse over here so I can decide if I'm interested' that I strongly suspect it would be (and I have had ones like that) then no, she'd get the single male treatment - deleted with no reply.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Good point. People often assume that beautiful people will have massive ego's and dislike them without knowing them. When in fact they may be lovely people but no-one will give them a chance. "

And this stops them from approaching those they themselves fancy because...?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I pity some people like this as I imagine the future for them may be a horrible place. I think the most bitter if it was down to purely looks would be those who were good looking and 'diva like' in youth then found themselves at sixty with their looks weathered. They wouldn't know how to make themselves approachable by their personality as they hadn't needed to develop one previously so from fawning over them suddenly everyone would suddenly treat them as a bitter old venomous toad.

It must be a lonely existance in later years for them.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my younger rebellious days i used the mantra when out with the lads'go ugly early and avoid the late night rush' How shallow was i

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Good point. People often assume that beautiful people will have massive ego's and dislike them without knowing them. When in fact they may be lovely people but no-one will give them a chance.

And this stops them from approaching those they themselves fancy because...?"

I mean, if a beautiful but lonely girl approached me when I was out and tried to initiate a conversation, do you REALLY think that, as a single and lonely male myself, I'd give her the silent treatment or shoo her away?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good point. People often assume that beautiful people will have massive ego's and dislike them without knowing them. When in fact they may be lovely people but no-one will give them a chance.

And this stops them from approaching those they themselves fancy because...?"

How do you know she doesn't

She may mail guys on here regular

Maybe her abrupt profile is a way of putting off unwanted attention as she prefers to seek those she wishes to meet herself

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You sound a little bitter about it but there is nothing you can do about it. I wouldn't worry about it...it's easy to understand

I'll happily admit that it does make me bitter, not so much toward these sort of girls in question, but rather the jaded nature of human nature in general."

Yep, could list lots of girls that act like this. By the way, lots of rich guys do the same...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here's a question, though - she is still on your hotlist...if she were to message you tomorrow saying she would like to meet, would you say no?

And I'm not being funny - I genuinely want to know.

-Courtney

What a reasonable and thought-out response. Fair enough.

-Courtney

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good point. People often assume that beautiful people will have massive ego's and dislike them without knowing them. When in fact they may be lovely people but no-one will give them a chance.

And this stops them from approaching those they themselves fancy because...?

I have no idea what she or you would do. I'm not beautiful in any way shape or form, so not speaking from experience.

I have read inter_iews with famous females talking of how they find it difficult to date because people don't take them seriously or have preconceived ideas of what they will be like.

Some people take the piss, saying oh what bollocks, they are beautiful, they don't have problems finding dates....

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Real beauty is on the inside.

Bloody hell, did I just type that? Get me a bucket

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a fallacy. Beautiful people aren't always happier. "

Happiness makes people beautiful, not the other way around

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"It's a fallacy. Beautiful people aren't always happier.

Happiness makes people beautiful, not the other way around "

So, so true. Nothing as beautiful as a well-loved woman.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

some have turned their hurt into anger, it will never resolve itself.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe she's looking for people who like to be treated a bit rubishly? I mean, that's a totally legit thing.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd like to know what else the OP thinks this woman has going for her. The only thing mentioned is looks. That is not a lot by my book.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains

"I'd like to know what else the OP thinks this woman has going for her. The only thing mentioned is looks. That is not a lot by my book."

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really don't give a Bats crap what other site members choose to write on their own profiles .....

My interest is only captured by profile information that matches what I offer and expect as a potential meet...

As for the rest.... pah.....bollix to them all....

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"some have turned their hurt into anger, it will never resolve itself.

A common self-protection mechanism sadly

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

It's shame Bri (op) that unlikes fbook your statu's vanish once you change it, that way people could see how dramatic/drippy/negative they are

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone is unique and we all have our desires, our fantasies, our fears...

As just another example to some of those given here, in my life I've had several lesbian lovers who were really straight at heart and dearly wanted to love a man and to enjoy straight sex - but who had been raped and abused beyond anything that you can imagine and were full of damage, hate and utter fear of men.

That sort of damage lasts for life, and sadly is all too common and yet hidden from _iew... It twists and eats away from within, and sometimes comes out in ways that are far from their true character.

I'm not saying that this applies in this case, because I know nothing about the girl in question - but please don't ever make assumptions about anybody until they've chosen to tell you for themselves how they feel.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"some have turned their hurt into anger, it will never resolve itself.

A common self-protection mechanism sadly

very true

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm young, beautiful and fecking hate sprouts, does that count

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"I'm young, beautiful and fecking hate sprouts, does that count

I fucking love sprouts, they stink half hour later

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone is unique and we all have our desires, our fantasies, our fears...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston

Maybe it's the fact she's so stunning and has men jumping through hoops for her that's turned her into a self centered hater

This was my first thought.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As the title implies, so much of what she has written implies that she HATES swinging, males in particular, results the fact her profile claims she's looking for them. She has a long list of do's and don'ts, her regular profile updates are typically filled with venom, and an overall feeling of intense negativity toward the world in general resonates.

I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *entleman JackMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

Pretty girls are a bit like cakes in a bakers shop window.

The very pretty brightly coloured fancy ones at the front look great, but once you taste them they are flavourless, with no substance, and leave you feeling disappointed.

Yet.......

The plain brown ones at the back, which you hardly notice, are filled with delicious jam, mouthwatering pastry, and a lovely almond coated topping, a delight to your every sense.

So go for the "plain Jane", the girl next door types, and you wont go far wrong!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

There go your meets

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"There go your meets

Bet that dosent happen

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

I wasn't going to post - but there seems to be an awful lot of assumptions being made regarding a profile not participating in the thread and the 'implications' and 'motives behind said anonymous site member.

Only the profile owner will know why what is written on their profile is there and the reasons why.

Speculations, assumptions and judgements aren't really beneficial to anyone. It's like the many "should I name and shame", "I received this message today" and "I've just seen a blatantly fake club re_iew" threads that appear - one side of a discussion, theory or argument - with the other party having no chance to explain their position.

My theory on why this profile apparently says what it does?

I have none. I've not seen it.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

My take on this (going on the generic profile description anyway, but it is better to leave it vague in thus instance rather than name and shame) is that the negative jump through hoops style text isn't just found on the profiles of young, beautiful women. I have seen it on couples profiles, single male profiles and even the odd TV/TS profile. I don't ever really stop to think about any deep seated issues for their negativity other than they are probably someone I don't want to meet regardless of how hot they may be or appear to consider themselves.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

I stay away from miserable negative people gorgeous or not as it brings people they come into contact with down as well, we have that comes into one my local pub and gorgeous or not the guys ignore her pouting which she hates as she wants to be the centre of attention

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pretty girls are a bit like cakes in a bakers shop window.

The very pretty brightly coloured fancy ones at the front look great, but once you taste them they are flavourless, with no substance, and leave you feeling disappointed.

Yet.......

The plain brown ones at the back, which you hardly notice, are filled with delicious jam, mouthwatering pastry, and a lovely almond coated topping, a delight to your every sense.

So go for the "plain Jane", the girl next door types, and you wont go far wrong!

Plain Jane here

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thread title sounds like an awesome porno!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pretty girls are a bit like cakes in a bakers shop window.

The very pretty brightly coloured fancy ones at the front look great, but once you taste them they are flavourless, with no substance, and leave you feeling disappointed.

Yet.......

The plain brown ones at the back, which you hardly notice, are filled with delicious jam, mouthwatering pastry, and a lovely almond coated topping, a delight to your every sense.

So go for the "plain Jane", the girl next door types, and you wont go far wrong!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Pretty girls are a bit like cakes in a bakers shop window.

The very pretty brightly coloured fancy ones at the front look great, but once you taste them they are flavourless, with no substance, and leave you feeling disappointed.

Yet.......

The plain brown ones at the back, which you hardly notice, are filled with delicious jam, mouthwatering pastry, and a lovely almond coated topping, a delight to your every sense.

So go for the "plain Jane", the girl next door types, and you wont go far wrong!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

"Pretty girls are a bit like cakes in a bakers shop window.

The very pretty brightly coloured fancy ones at the front look great, but once you taste them they are flavourless, with no substance, and leave you feeling disappointed.

Yet.......

The plain brown ones at the back, which you hardly notice, are filled with delicious jam, mouthwatering pastry, and a lovely almond coated topping, a delight to your every sense.

So go for the "plain Jane", the girl next door types, and you wont go far wrong!

Sometimes pretty cakes taste nice. And everyday looking cakes aren't hiding a wealth of exciting flavours. I'd rather someone liked me for me rather than making a judgement based on what I look like as to who I am as a person. Or feel like they're settling for me because hey, at least I'm nice on the inside.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pretty girls are a bit like cakes in a bakers shop window.

The very pretty brightly coloured fancy ones at the front look great, but once you taste them they are flavourless, with no substance, and leave you feeling disappointed.

Yet.......

The plain brown ones at the back, which you hardly notice, are filled with delicious jam, mouthwatering pastry, and a lovely almond coated topping, a delight to your every sense.

So go for the "plain Jane", the girl next door types, and you wont go far wrong!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pretty girls are a bit like cakes in a bakers shop window.

The very pretty brightly coloured fancy ones at the front look great, but once you taste them they are flavourless, with no substance, and leave you feeling disappointed.

Yet.......

The plain brown ones at the back, which you hardly notice, are filled with delicious jam, mouthwatering pastry, and a lovely almond coated topping, a delight to your every sense.

So go for the "plain Jane", the girl next door types, and you wont go far wrong!

Well said.

-Courtney

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people are filled with hate.

Others are not. I don't see how her age or looks should matter.

Besides, the persona she presents on her may be nothing like who she really is.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

mind you saying that there are a couple of what you have called plain janes and they are dam full of attitude as well so I am none the clearer

lol

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?"

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

Because I LOVE women in general, they fascinate me, they excite me, and there's little greater feeling than winning the respect and approval of one you admire or care about. Honestly, I'd do pretty much anything for the right woman.

So it's with that in mind that it upsets me so much how spoiled and ungrateful I've seen so many become, its as though nothing men do is good enough for them, they're always expecting more and giving nothing in return, even to the point where they feel ANGRY towards guys when they're paid a COMPLIMENT by them. Men still love them, just as I do, but these women don't love men in return anymore, thusly, those men lose all their purpose and value.

That's where the resentment comes from.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from."

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ever thought she could just be a bitch.. Regardless of age, looks etc it could just be she was born with a shit personality

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew. "

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really."

I was being serious. What you said is concerning.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from."

But putting them on a pedestal that high is just asking for them to develop virtigo.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really.

I was being serious. What you said is concerning."

The "right" women behave in the ideal set by the men who think like this. Deviation away from that makes those women hateful. Heaven forfend we act in any way that may even approximate how men behave. We're an ungrateful lot not wanting to cherish the adoration of men.

Treat us as equals in thought, word and deed and you might _iew things in a different way. External beauty does not equate to internal beauty in either gender. Idolising the external is what leads to such shallow thoughts and behaviours.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Ever thought she could just be a bitch.. Regardless of age, looks etc it could just be she was born with a shit personality"

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from."

You seem to focus a lot on physical attributes. I'm not saying they aren't important but maybe you could try shifting your focus. Try looking a little but deeper than looks and you may find you are more satisfied. Our looks are just the packaging that becomes discarded sooner or later and then you are just left with the contents. Women are not something for you to work out our even for you to understand why they are the way they are. Sometimes they just are. Happiness is a lot to do with acceptance. Sometimes the answer is "just because".....and that really is ok.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really.

I was being serious. What you said is concerning.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So it's with that in mind that it upsets me so much how spoiled and ungrateful I've seen so many become, its as though nothing men do is good enough for them, they're always expecting more and giving nothing in return, even to the point where they feel ANGRY towards guys when they're paid a COMPLIMENT by them. Men still love them, just as I do, but these women don't love men in return anymore, thusly, those men lose all their purpose and value."

Maybe they're lesbians.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a huge number of venomous, hatred filled men on my local updates who seem to hate the site, all the other men on it, life in general and especially women.

Oh and they're all fucking ugly as sin.

Some people are just whinging bastards, whatever they look like. I don't think there's much deeper to it than that.

(Also, getting bought drinks by strangers is one of the "life privileges" bestowed upon beautiful women? I'd quite like the life privilege of date rape never being a consideration in my thoughts, that would be preferable)

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ephistoCouple
over a year ago

torrance

I see many good and valid points given here, but I do know that this is the cyber world. People can present themselves in any way that they want regardless of how they are in the real world. We might be surprised by others when we actually meet and get to know them whether it be good or bad.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"(Also, getting bought drinks by strangers is one of the "life privileges" bestowed upon beautiful women? I'd quite like the life privilege of date rape never being a consideration in my thoughts, that would be preferable)"

Or... you know... a 17.5% wage gap... or being made to feel uncomfortable at work because people think it's ok to display sexist material openly... or being pressured from every angle to look a certain way and behave a certain way - like this thread for example.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really.

I was being serious. What you said is concerning."

My emotions are intense, particularly toward women. If you find that concerning, that's fine, it's your choice, but it still falls into the 'assumption' category that a lot of criticism of my _iews on this thread have fallen under.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

End of the the day ....they were lucky enough to win the genetic lottery . Society and the media has placed enormous importance on looks ...which the entire world has accepted and embraced!

We have no choice in whether we are born attractive or not....you accept what your dealt and live your life...or save for plastic surgery .

Man and women both are responsible for putting attractive people on pedalstall's ....look at victoria secret models , pages of cosmo , mens fitness mags ....fashion week in London ,Paris etc...

Yes there are attractive women with bad attitudes but they are a hell of a lot who don't and are decent human beings .

I could ramble forever and go deep into this subject but I'll spare the forum users eye sensitivity. ..lol.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My emotions are intense, particularly toward women. If you find that concerning, that's fine, it's your choice, but it still falls into the 'assumption' category that a lot of criticism of my _iews on this thread have fallen under."

You sound like a dinosaur from the 70s. I thought we'd all moved on past this 'women must behave appropriately and demurely at all times, and always believe that everything a man says to them is good' shit.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Like having to second guess how I look or dress or even which shade of lipstick I'm wearing in case someone gets the 'wrong' impression: see earlier pretty but shallow vs plain Jane with personality dichotomy

Being a man (even, god forbid, a SINGLE one) doesn't look so bad from where I'm sitting.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really.

I was being serious. What you said is concerning.

I see it as interpretation rather than assumption. We only have what you write to go on. That is interpreted by our own lens on the world.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being a man (even, god forbid, a SINGLE one) doesn't look so bad from where I'm sitting. "

Don't forget that the wrong shade of lipstick will mean you're either 'too slutty' or 'too frigid'...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really.

I was being serious. What you said is concerning.

I don't think it's a criticism or an assumption to say your statements raise concerns. To say you intensely resent women is scary to me and I don't know why no one else is saying so either.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again."

No, you're quite openly saying that women must behave a certain way (gracefully - accepting compliments, etc) otherwise you resent them.

Why do you resent someone just because they don't want you to compliment them?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being a man (even, god forbid, a SINGLE one) doesn't look so bad from where I'm sitting.

Don't forget that the wrong shade of lipstick will mean you're either 'too slutty' or 'too frigid'..."

Or sometimes any or no lipstick at all.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Being a man (even, god forbid, a SINGLE one) doesn't look so bad from where I'm sitting. "

Yeah, just ask Norah Vincent.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

My 'assumption' based on this entire thread is that you feel differently around women as if they are some separate species with a quantifiable group way of thinking and behaving. You will never figure 'women' as a whole out unless you do us the courtesy of seeing as individuals with our own separate validity, much as you see yourself as you rather than representative of a generic 'man'.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it's a criticism or an assumption to say your statements raise concerns. To say you intensely resent women is scary to me and I don't know why no one else is saying so either. "

Some on the thread may also think it, but not be entirely surprised.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By the way. She's a woman, not a girl.

If you're going to be a cunt about women you don't approve of, at least give them the decency of referring to them as a grown adult who is capable of making their own decisions.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really.

I was being serious. What you said is concerning.

I see it as interpretation rather than assumption. We only have what you write to go on. That is interpreted by our own lens on the world.

Even so, you still assume that your interpretation is correct, regardless of how accurate you assume your lens to be. I myself assume that anyone who read any menace in my 'serial killer' words is likely someone I probably wouldn't have appealed to enough to meet anyway.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really.

I was being serious. What you said is concerning.

I see it as interpretation rather than assumption. We only have what you write to go on. That is interpreted by our own lens on the world.

Trust me, I wouldn't risk my own personal safety meeting you.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oughandCurvyCouple
over a year ago

galway

Maybe it's the fact she's so stunning and has men jumping through hoops for her that's turned her into a self centered hater

This!! She has probably always had people falling at her feet which as a result has probably made her think that people are disposable because there will always be someone else there to trow themselves at her and beg for her attention

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again."

If you dislike assumptions so much it may be wise not to make them yourself

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

This thread is a thinly disguised grumble about women.

Not behaviour, not likes or dislikes but women.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again.

If you dislike assumptions so much it may be wise not to make them yourself"

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Being a man (even, god forbid, a SINGLE one) doesn't look so bad from where I'm sitting.

Yeah, just ask Norah Vincent."

No, I love being a woman. I don't want to be a man. But that's because I'm me, not because being a man is inherently shit. We all have our challenges in the world, life is not all rosy for women, even those the OP has decided are beautiful.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even so, you still assume that your interpretation is correct, regardless of how accurate you assume your lens to be. I myself assume that anyone who read any menace in my 'serial killer' words is likely someone I probably wouldn't have appealed to enough to meet anyway."

Ah, so you just want to shag naive women who don't understand the implications of the words you write.

That makes everything so much better!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah, so you just want to shag naive women who don't understand the implications of the words you write.

That makes everything so much better!"

Maybe just as well

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"By the way. She's a woman, not a girl.

If you're going to be a cunt about women you don't approve of, at least give them the decency of referring to them as a grown adult who is capable of making their own decisions."

Oh. I hadn't seen this succinct and erudite and plain speaking response before I put mine.

This one is correct too.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the cycle continues.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again.

No, you're quite openly saying that women must behave a certain way (gracefully - accepting compliments, etc) otherwise you resent them.

Why do you resent someone just because they don't want you to compliment them?"

But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Being a man (even, god forbid, a SINGLE one) doesn't look so bad from where I'm sitting.

Yeah, just ask Norah Vincent."

Yes, it's funny how she's too butch when a woman and too effeminate as a man.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In addition, what really fucks me off about this kind of thing, is that if this was a post that was racist rather than sexist, it would be wiped off the surface of the forums.

Instead, because it's "only casual sexism" it'll be allowed to stay and pollute the thoughts of other people who are easily led.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again.

No, you're quite openly saying that women must behave a certain way (gracefully - accepting compliments, etc) otherwise you resent them.

Why do you resent someone just because they don't want you to compliment them?

But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display."

Maybe you creep them the fuck out. I don't want the local freaky flasher man saying "you're sexy!" to me, so maybe she doesn't want to hear from you.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ah, so you just want to shag naive women who don't understand the implications of the words you write.

That makes everything so much better!"

They're either that or they actually do understand the implications of my words (and perhaps more importantly, the thinking behind them) and are aware of the fact that I'm actually quite level headed

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display."

Or in other words: she didn't want your positive display. (Isn't positive display just another words for compliment? And responding negatively just another word for reject? So she rejected your compliment?)

What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

SEVENTIES !! Objection !

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

SEVENTIES !! Objection !"

I understand - the 70s must be a hard limit for you too.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not long after I had just left school I was standing at a bus stop one morning and there was a girl in her uniform standing in front of me, Tall and very pretty, At least 20 cars passed by with Men of all ages, All of them give that long lingering stare at her, I remember even then thinking of the two extremes,

1, She will grow up thinking with the flutter of her eyes she will have Men doing what ever she wants or 2, Most Men are perverts and have a resentment against Men

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah, so you just want to shag naive women who don't understand the implications of the words you write.

That makes everything so much better!

They're either that or they actually do understand the implications of my words (and perhaps more importantly, the thinking behind them) and are aware of the fact that I'm actually quite level headed

Jesus. How is it level headed to make a blanket statement saying you resent women. That's a mental thing to say.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again.

No, you're quite openly saying that women must behave a certain way (gracefully - accepting compliments, etc) otherwise you resent them.

Why do you resent someone just because they don't want you to compliment them?

But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Maybe you creep them the fuck out. I don't want the local freaky flasher man saying "you're sexy!" to me, so maybe she doesn't want to hear from you. "

Creep them out/Freaky flasher...

Assumptions are coming on thick and fast now...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

pops back in, gets a feel for the vibe, pops back out again.....

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

The only cereals I've ever killed were cornflakes...and frosties, and coco pops, and ricicles, and weetos, and crunchy nut cornflakes, and fruit and fibre, and bran flakes...

I'm actually quite prolific really.

I was being serious. What you said is concerning.

I see it as interpretation rather than assumption. We only have what you write to go on. That is interpreted by our own lens on the world.

Why are you assuming I assume my interpretation is correct? Communication and debate is about exploring our assertions and interpretations. Be careful about your own assumptions - I'll take care of my own.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

She probably needs to take a break and get a hobby

exactly.

Hello Laine xxx

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again.

No, you're quite openly saying that women must behave a certain way (gracefully - accepting compliments, etc) otherwise you resent them.

Why do you resent someone just because they don't want you to compliment them?

But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Maybe you creep them the fuck out. I don't want the local freaky flasher man saying "you're sexy!" to me, so maybe she doesn't want to hear from you.

Creep them out/Freaky flasher...

Assumptions are coming on thick and fast now..."

You say assumptions like its a bad thing. Why would it be wrong to assume from what you said that she didn't want the positive attention from you? I know from my own anecdotal evidence that I only react poorly to compliments when they're creepy/unwanted. It's entirely possible that you are creepy and were giving the woman unwanted attention.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Ah, so you just want to shag naive women who don't understand the implications of the words you write.

That makes everything so much better!"

I realise that I am too old, too fat, too ugly and too feminist for the OP to ever want to shag me. It's safe for me to assume.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Clearly you don't see a difference between telling someone 'no thankyou' and 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard'

"What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?"

Your arguments are very black and white aren't they?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ah, so you just want to shag naive women who don't understand the implications of the words you write.

That makes everything so much better!

I realise that I am too old, too fat, too ugly and too feminist for the OP to ever want to shag me. It's safe for me to assume.

I actually think you have a nice smile.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah, so you just want to shag naive women who don't understand the implications of the words you write.

That makes everything so much better!

I realise that I am too old, too fat, too ugly and too feminist for the OP to ever want to shag me. It's safe for me to assume.

I don't think you should make those assumptions. Maybe he likes ugly feminists like us?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Clearly you don't see a difference between telling someone 'no thankyou' and 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard'

What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?

Your arguments are very black and white aren't they?"

Did she actually say to you 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard?

What did you actually do/say to her to get that response?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Clearly you don't see a difference between telling someone 'no thankyou' and 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard'

What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?

Your arguments are very black and white aren't they?

Did she actually say to you 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard?

What did you actually do/say to her to get that response?"

And is this thread basically that you hit on a woman you should you were in there with, and she turned you down?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Clearly you don't see a difference between telling someone 'no thankyou' and 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard'

What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?

Your arguments are very black and white aren't they?"

Yeh she deco sees you in a similar way as to how I see the freaky flasher man. Perhaps you should work on the image you portray instead of expecting women to change their reactions to you.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again.

No, you're quite openly saying that women must behave a certain way (gracefully - accepting compliments, etc) otherwise you resent them.

Why do you resent someone just because they don't want you to compliment them?

But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Maybe you creep them the fuck out. I don't want the local freaky flasher man saying "you're sexy!" to me, so maybe she doesn't want to hear from you.

Creep them out/Freaky flasher...

Assumptions are coming on thick and fast now...

Yes it is possible, however, like you said, its only an assumption, and now you're conducting this argument with me as though that assumption were correct, thusly you're being highly aggressive and unable to approach the subject in an objective manner.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again.

No, you're quite openly saying that women must behave a certain way (gracefully - accepting compliments, etc) otherwise you resent them.

Why do you resent someone just because they don't want you to compliment them?

But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Maybe you creep them the fuck out. I don't want the local freaky flasher man saying "you're sexy!" to me, so maybe she doesn't want to hear from you.

Creep them out/Freaky flasher...

Assumptions are coming on thick and fast now...

No, I just don't believe you didn't contribute to the negative response. That is different. I'm sorry you are unable to have a conversation with people who have a different _iewpoint, it must make your life and development difficult.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Ah, so you just want to shag naive women who don't understand the implications of the words you write.

That makes everything so much better!

I realise that I am too old, too fat, too ugly and too feminist for the OP to ever want to shag me. It's safe for me to assume.

I actually think you have a nice smile."

Thank you.

I really hope you understand why I find that funny on this thread.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, have you actually met the woman the thread is about or messaged her even, because you seem to be making a lot of assumptions about her & her life

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"And the cycle continues."

Not after the menopause

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Clearly you don't see a difference between telling someone 'no thankyou' and 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard'

What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?

Your arguments are very black and white aren't they?

Did she actually say to you 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard?

What did you actually do/say to her to get that response?

And is this thread basically that you hit on a woman you should you were in there with, and she turned you down?"

No the pervy bastard line was just an example, and not even directed against the subject of this topic, but rather against the sort of entitled women I've also been describing.

I don't think I even mentioned whether or not I'd even messaged here, yet, that seems to be the basis of your whole argument

'I'm clearly arguing with an old fashioned misogynistic bastard who hates women because they don't want his dirty affections'

And because that's the perspective you have firmly rooted in your mind, there's no way I can anything resembling a constructive debate with you on the subject.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew. "

It really does.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me Tarzan you Jane.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought it was a thread about Young beautiful Women who are full of hate,

Not about the op and his one on one approach to the Woman on his hotlist

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Dinosaurs weren't around in the 70s.

The rest of your post pulled up a load of things I never actually said, or even implied - there's those assumptions again.

No, you're quite openly saying that women must behave a certain way (gracefully - accepting compliments, etc) otherwise you resent them.

Why do you resent someone just because they don't want you to compliment them?

But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Maybe you creep them the fuck out. I don't want the local freaky flasher man saying "you're sexy!" to me, so maybe she doesn't want to hear from you.

Creep them out/Freaky flasher...

Assumptions are coming on thick and fast now...

Perhaps you should have a read back over your own posts, and ask if you'd honestly like to have a debate with yourself before you start questioning my _iewpoint.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Clearly you don't see a difference between telling someone 'no thankyou' and 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard'

What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?

Your arguments are very black and white aren't they?

Did she actually say to you 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard?

What did you actually do/say to her to get that response?

And is this thread basically that you hit on a woman you should you were in there with, and she turned you down?

No the pervy bastard line was just an example, and not even directed against the subject of this topic, but rather against the sort of entitled women I've also been describing.

I don't think I even mentioned whether or not I'd even messaged here, yet, that seems to be the basis of your whole argument

'I'm clearly arguing with an old fashioned misogynistic bastard who hates women because they don't want his dirty affections'

And because that's the perspective you have firmly rooted in your mind, there's no way I can anything resembling a constructive debate with you on the subject."

Seriously, you started with "I intensely resent women as they don't love men who pay them compliments". How can you not see that is scary? It's fine not liking someone cos they didn't respond well to something, but to say you intensely resent women and that they're entitled suggests you've serious problems.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Clearly you don't see a difference between telling someone 'no thankyou' and 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard'

What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?

Your arguments are very black and white aren't they?

Did she actually say to you 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard?

What did you actually do/say to her to get that response?

And is this thread basically that you hit on a woman you should you were in there with, and she turned you down?

No the pervy bastard line was just an example, and not even directed against the subject of this topic, but rather against the sort of entitled women I've also been describing.

I don't think I even mentioned whether or not I'd even messaged here, yet, that seems to be the basis of your whole argument

'I'm clearly arguing with an old fashioned misogynistic bastard who hates women because they don't want his dirty affections'

And because that's the perspective you have firmly rooted in your mind, there's no way I can anything resembling a constructive debate with you on the subject."

There you go, now you are putting words together not constructed by that poster. Do you see how this works? You are reading what is said through your lens and interpreting what was written in your own way.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be off track here, but you seem to resent women?

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so, would you like to know why?

That's where the resentment comes from.

Sounds like something a serial killer would say in an post murdering spree inter_iew.

It really does. "

Elliott Rodger

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I am struggling with is , Why have someone on your hotlist who you clearly did not like ? Personally wise

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What I am struggling with is , Why have someone on your hotlist who you clearly did not like ? Personally wise "

I'd also like to know what he would like to be changed about the situation.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I thought it was a thread about Young beautiful Women who are full of hate,

Not about the op and his one on one approach to the Woman on his hotlist

Was it about young, beautiful women who are full of hate? That was the title but the post was using of someone he has on his hotlist and his approach. We don't know if the woman (or other women who are young and judged beautiful by the OP) are full of hate only that the OP says they are.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These threads are normally funny because of the difference in _iewpoints.

This one is just worrying.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"What I am struggling with is , Why have someone on your hotlist who you clearly did not like ? Personally wise "

Hurrah! I didn't dare ask this.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Clearly you don't see a difference between telling someone 'no thankyou' and 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard'

What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?

Your arguments are very black and white aren't they?

Did she actually say to you 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard?

What did you actually do/say to her to get that response?

And is this thread basically that you hit on a woman you should you were in there with, and she turned you down?

No the pervy bastard line was just an example, and not even directed against the subject of this topic, but rather against the sort of entitled women I've also been describing.

I don't think I even mentioned whether or not I'd even messaged here, yet, that seems to be the basis of your whole argument

'I'm clearly arguing with an old fashioned misogynistic bastard who hates women because they don't want his dirty affections'

And because that's the perspective you have firmly rooted in your mind, there's no way I can anything resembling a constructive debate with you on the subject.

Thankyou for omitting the word 'sometimes' from my quote, then taking the rest on the end as you saw fit.

"I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so"

It just makes licketys follow up about me reading what I want to read so much more ironic

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But I didn't actually say anything about gracefully accepting compliments, what I actually said was about responding negatively to a positive display.

Clearly you don't see a difference between telling someone 'no thankyou' and 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard'

What did you want her to do? Drop to her knees and suck your cock?

Your arguments are very black and white aren't they?

Did she actually say to you 'fuck off you sad pervy bastard?

What did you actually do/say to her to get that response?

And is this thread basically that you hit on a woman you should you were in there with, and she turned you down?

No the pervy bastard line was just an example, and not even directed against the subject of this topic, but rather against the sort of entitled women I've also been describing.

I don't think I even mentioned whether or not I'd even messaged here, yet, that seems to be the basis of your whole argument

'I'm clearly arguing with an old fashioned misogynistic bastard who hates women because they don't want his dirty affections'

And because that's the perspective you have firmly rooted in your mind, there's no way I can anything resembling a constructive debate with you on the subject.

Thankyou for omitting the word 'sometimes' from my quote, then taking the rest on the end as you saw fit.

I will admit that sometimes I do resent women, and intensely so

It just makes licketys follow up about me reading what I want to read so much more ironic

Yeh there's no difference really. Sometimes doing something terrible is just as bad. Unless you believe only "intensely resenting" women perhaps 1/7 days a week is absolutely fine?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought it was a thread about Young beautiful Women who are full of hate,

Not about the op and his one on one approach to the Woman on his hotlist

I was just referring to his opening post "Whilst I'm using this one in particular as an example, it's not the first girls like this that I've seen"

And just thought other people were asking is it just about the Women on his hotlist not responding to him in a way he would like