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"Watching Sunday Morning and subject is about donors, why people nowadays don't donate organs or blood? Presenter mentioned the fact that she lost four pints of blood in her delivery and if it wasn't for strangers donating blood she would have died. I too was the same with my last delivery, almost died and almost lost my uterus. I did made a promise I would be a donor as I have been saved by donors too. So my curiosity is how many of us on fab are donors? Do you donate blood? Are you a register organ donor? Have you ever donated for a friend, relative, stranger?" I donate every three months. I think part of the scare is fear of getting infections .. needles open arms dirty church halls etc ...... Got to admit im not impressed by many of the nurses and others I meet when giving blood. | |||
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"Think what changed for me was having a child,, if she ever needed blood or god forbid an organ id be a massive hypocrite if i could accept these gifts of life and not return the favour." exactly what happened to me - i used to think when your numbers up thats it - but once i had my first baby it totally altered the way i looked at it - been on the register ever since | |||
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"Im a blood donor as im A- Rh so its needed, takes me 5mins to fill a bag & im fine & good to go within 10mins after " I'm the same blood group as you xx | |||
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"For those that are organ donors you need to make sure your family know it's your wish as when the time comes the hospital need your next of kin's consent" I find that disgusting to be honest. I've had donor cards for years but if my family didn't agree, they could go against my wishes? | |||
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"just updated my details on the organ doner register " | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . " This is definetly the way forward ... I'm a regular blood donor and carry the card , but grief messes with people's heads and people's wishes at the moment aren't always carried through Implement the opt out system and then the family doesn't have to deal with these decisions at the worst time of their life's A x | |||
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"Think what changed for me was having a child,, if she ever needed blood or god forbid an organ id be a massive hypocrite if i could accept these gifts of life and not return the favour." I was the same. Was also on bone marrow list. Cant anymore as diabetic and on medication | |||
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"I donated blood for years! Im O- so sort after! Had to stop for medical reasons, hoping i can again soon! Im happy to donate organs when that time comes!" I'm O neg too... Alas I cannot donate blood because of having had a transfusion after labour. | |||
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"I donated blood for years! Im O- so sort after! Had to stop for medical reasons, hoping i can again soon! Im happy to donate organs when that time comes! I'm O neg too... Alas I cannot donate blood because of having had a transfusion after labour." Meet too | |||
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"Registered organ donor but despite having a rare blood group they don't want mine - I take medication and get tattoos so until they decide to clean blood before they use it (which they can do btw) I am useless " That's odd. I've been on medication long term (tramadol amongst others) and they take mine. Maybe different boroughs have different rules? | |||
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"You may not be able to donate blood if: *you have had a serious illness or major surgery in the past *you have had complicated dental work (it is safe to donate blood 24 hours after having a filling or seven days after a simple extraction) *you have recently come into contact with an infectious disease *you have had certain immunisations within the last four weeks *you are currently on a hospital waiting list, or waiting to have tests You should not give blood if: *you have a chesty cough, sore throat or an active cold sore *you are taking antibiotics or have finished a course of antibiotics in the last seven days *you are pregnant or have given birth in the last six months *you have had hepatitis A or jaundice in the last 12 months *you have had a tattoo, semi-permanent make up or any sort of body piercing in the last four months *a member of your immediate family has had Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) – a rare condition that affects the nervous system and causes brain damage *you have had acupuncture in the last four months, unless this was done within the NHS or by a qualified healthcare professional registered with a statutory body *you have received human pituitary extract (a substance used in some growth hormone and fertility treatments before 1985) *you have received blood during the course of a medical treatment or procedure since 1980 You should not donate blood for 12 months after having sex with: *a commercial sex worker *someone who has injected drugs *someone who has haemophilia (a condition that stops your blood from clotting normally) or another type of blood disorder that required clotting factor treatment *someone who has been sexually active in parts of the world where HIV and AIDS are common – such as sub-Saharan Africa *a man who has had oral or anal sex with another man (if you are female) *a man (if you are male) – with or without a condom You should never donate blood if you have ever: *had HIV *had hepatitis C *had syphilis *had human t-lymphotropic virus (HTLV) *injected yourself with drugs *worked as a commercial sex worker" Crap, I've had hepatitis and not sure which one either but does that discount me from being an organ donor too? | |||
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"Watching Sunday Morning and subject is about donors, why people nowadays don't donate organs or blood? Presenter mentioned the fact that she lost four pints of blood in her delivery and if it wasn't for strangers donating blood she would have died. I too was the same with my last delivery, almost died and almost lost my uterus. I did made a promise I would be a donor as I have been saved by donors too. So my curiosity is how many of us on fab are donors? Do you donate blood? Are you a register organ donor? Have you ever donated for a friend, relative, stranger?" I'd love to donate blood. NHS don't want me because one of my partners is intimate with other men. | |||
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"I'm an organ donor but can't bring myself to give blood. Apparently I'm a really slow bleeder and they struggle to get anything from me just for blood tests (a nurse once spent 15mins trying to get half a vial! - And I drink more than the recommended daily intake of water). Add that to my fear of blood and needles and you've got a pretty shit combination for a donor. - Amy. x" Ah see, they stick me with a needle in my blood test and I fill up the vials sometimes faster than they can change them. :D | |||
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"Ah see, they stick me with a needle in my blood test and I fill up the vials sometimes faster than they can change them. :D" Urgh, I used to hate going for blood tests with family and seeing how quick it was all over for them. Being pregnant for the 2nd Summer in a row, it's my worst nightmare with all the blood they have to take *Shudders*. - Amy. x | |||
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"I donated blood for years! Im O- so sort after! Had to stop for medical reasons, hoping i can again soon! Im happy to donate organs when that time comes! I'm O neg too... Alas I cannot donate blood because of having had a transfusion after labour. Meet too " A transfusion after labour? | |||
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"I have a rare blood group and its always in high demand, I donate blood regularly, don't take long at all to do Luke can't donate as he's received a blood transfusion in the past. " O neg is sought after simply because it can be given to anyone needing a transfusion when you don't know their blood type. Approx 15% people have rhesus negative blood compared to 85% rhesus positive blood. | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . " I used to donate blood regularly and carried an organ doner card. When they started talking about the opt out insted of opt in I stopped donating and destroyed my donor's card. Donations should be by consent not because an opt out has been lost in the system | |||
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"I used to donate blood but don't any more as my partner is bi. Worryingly the guys on here pretending they are straight when they are actually bi makes a mockery of the NHS rules, there are probably women on here that give blood not realising they have had sex with a bi guy! " And what's interesting is given the amount of working girls on here many couples and bi women will be excluded for their bi fem play. I'm an organ donor but they don't want my dirty ghey blood | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . I used to donate blood regularly and carried an organ doner card. When they started talking about the opt out insted of opt in I stopped donating and destroyed my donor's card. Donations should be by consent not because an opt out has been lost in the system" You now wouldn't donate just because the idea of opt-out was "talked about"? | |||
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"Watching Sunday Morning and subject is about donors, why people nowadays don't donate organs or blood? Presenter mentioned the fact that she lost four pints of blood in her delivery and if it wasn't for strangers donating blood she would have died. I too was the same with my last delivery, almost died and almost lost my uterus. I did made a promise I would be a donor as I have been saved by donors too. So my curiosity is how many of us on fab are donors? Do you donate blood? Are you a register organ donor? Have you ever donated for a friend, relative, stranger?" I started donating after my mum had a transfusion during her hysterectomy. My O+ blood isn't great and half my donations fail but I still try. I am a registered organ donor & God forbid anything should happen to my children I would donate their organs too. Their dad has O- blood which can be given to anyone in an emergency. He is also a platelet donor & was on the bone marrow donor list as well as being a registered organ donor. Only 4% of the population currently donates & your donation will probably have been used with 24 hours. | |||
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"I gave up giving blood when i found out that the NHS sold donated blood products to private hospitals and clinics. I was furious that the NHS would profit financially from my donation. As for organ donation, because of anti rejection drugs being so good it is no longer the case where the best matched recipient gets the organ. A market has developed where money speaks. If you have enough money you can jump the queue and buy the organ. No thanks. I wont sign up to blood or organ donation" As someone who works in the lucrative organ donation market I would just like to point out what utter shit you are talking | |||
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"You may not be able to donate blood if: *you have had a serious illness or major surgery in the past *you have had complicated dental work (it is safe to donate blood 24 hours after having a filling or seven days after a simple extraction) *you have recently come into contact with an infectious disease *you have had certain immunisations within the last four weeks *you are currently on a hospital waiting list, or waiting to have tests You should not give blood if: *you have a chesty cough, sore throat or an active cold sore *you are taking antibiotics or have finished a course of antibiotics in the last seven days *you are pregnant or have given birth in the last six months *you have had hepatitis A or jaundice in the last 12 months *you have had a tattoo, semi-permanent make up or any sort of body piercing in the last four months *a member of your immediate family has had Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) – a rare condition that affects the nervous system and causes brain damage *you have had acupuncture in the last four months, unless this was done within the NHS or by a qualified healthcare professional registered with a statutory body *you have received human pituitary extract (a substance used in some growth hormone and fertility treatments before 1985) *you have received blood during the course of a medical treatment or procedure since 1980 You should not donate blood for 12 months after having sex with: *a commercial sex worker *someone who has injected drugs *someone who has haemophilia (a condition that stops your blood from clotting normally) or another type of blood disorder that required clotting factor treatment *someone who has been sexually active in parts of the world where HIV and AIDS are common – such as sub-Saharan Africa *a man who has had oral or anal sex with another man (if you are female) *a man (if you are male) – with or without a condom You should never donate blood if you have ever: *had HIV *had hepatitis C *had syphilis *had human t-lymphotropic virus (HTLV) *injected yourself with drugs *worked as a commercial sex worker" I have donated in the past but am temporarily ruled out. | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . I used to donate blood regularly and carried an organ doner card. When they started talking about the opt out insted of opt in I stopped donating and destroyed my donor's card. Donations should be by consent not because an opt out has been lost in the system" I wrote my dissertation on this subject, I think you should read some articles concerning the issue and possibly rethink......the 'opt out' idea can benefit not only those needing an organ, but those families whom a loved ones wishes hadn't been expressed or discussed to/with them. It's a decision families face when in extreme shock & disbelief. The receiving of an organ is somewhat an 'opt out' system so why not vice versa? Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one?? | |||
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"i lost my son at 20 months old I donated his organs, to me it just made sense, after carrying him, loving him and loosing him to just crimate him made it all seemed pointless, to help some other child live just made it all feel like it was worth something I remember after somebody saying to me they couldn't have done what I did as they love their children much it's suprising how many people had this attitude that I somehow loved my child less because I let them 'cut him up' regardless I have no regrets " God how awful! I feel the same as you......I would regret NOT donating my child's organs if God forbid the worst happened. How heartless of people to say that to you.......you loved your child so much you couldn't face letting his body go to waste. The thought of burying or cremating my child is bad enough but not allowing the parts that can live on to be taken first and help other human beings is a worse thought....... | |||
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"Watching Sunday Morning and subject is about donors, why people nowadays don't donate organs or blood? Presenter mentioned the fact that she lost four pints of blood in her delivery and if it wasn't for strangers donating blood she would have died. I too was the same with my last delivery, almost died and almost lost my uterus. I did made a promise I would be a donor as I have been saved by donors too. So my curiosity is how many of us on fab are donors? Do you donate blood? Are you a register organ donor? Have you ever donated for a friend, relative, stranger?" You will Never be a blood donor never. | |||
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"i lost my son at 20 months old I donated his organs, to me it just made sense, after carrying him, loving him and loosing him to just crimate him made it all seemed pointless, to help some other child live just made it all feel like it was worth something I remember after somebody saying to me they couldn't have done what I did as they love their children much it's suprising how many people had this attitude that I somehow loved my child less because I let them 'cut him up' regardless I have no regrets God how awful! I feel the same as you......I would regret NOT donating my child's organs if God forbid the worst happened. How heartless of people to say that to you.......you loved your child so much you couldn't face letting his body go to waste. The thought of burying or cremating my child is bad enough but not allowing the parts that can live on to be taken first and help other human beings is a worse thought......." I think emotions just run high when it's a child, most people wouldn't have a problem donating a adult relatives body but when it's a child people feel more protective | |||
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"If you have received blood in the past, you can never donate. full stop. I received blood 30 years ago due to a RTA survived and fully fit, passed all medicals and living a good life but no matter how fit, they will not allow you to donate. that's fact." That is true I've had two blood transfusion and I can now no longer donate what I want to know is what's wrong with their bloody that they don't want it back | |||
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"If you have received blood in the past, you can never donate. full stop. I received blood 30 years ago due to a RTA survived and fully fit, passed all medicals and living a good life but no matter how fit, they will not allow you to donate. that's fact. That is true I've had two blood transfusion and I can now no longer donate what I want to know is what's wrong with their bloody that they don't want it back " They bought a bunch from US prisons and gave a lot of people hiv and hep. | |||
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"If you have received blood in the past, you can never donate. full stop. I received blood 30 years ago due to a RTA survived and fully fit, passed all medicals and living a good life but no matter how fit, they will not allow you to donate. that's fact. That is true I've had two blood transfusion and I can now no longer donate what I want to know is what's wrong with their bloody that they don't want it back They bought a bunch from US prisons and gave a lot of people hiv and hep." Oh is that why I've lost weight | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . I used to donate blood regularly and carried an organ doner card. When they started talking about the opt out insted of opt in I stopped donating and destroyed my donor's card. Donations should be by consent not because an opt out has been lost in the system I wrote my dissertation on this subject, I think you should read some articles concerning the issue and possibly rethink......the 'opt out' idea can benefit not only those needing an organ, but those families whom a loved ones wishes hadn't been expressed or discussed to/with them. It's a decision families face when in extreme shock & disbelief. The receiving of an organ is somewhat an 'opt out' system so why not vice versa? Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one??" The point is with an opt out system they are stealing organs from those who have not given consent. With the opt in system they can only use organs from people who have consented. Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one? Obviously not as that would deny many people who for whatever reason could not give consent from receiving an organ. Would I personally be happy to be refused an organ because I refused to donate my organs? Yes, because I have freely made the choice. There is a big difference between the two scenarios | |||
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"If you have received blood in the past, you can never donate. full stop. I received blood 30 years ago due to a RTA survived and fully fit, passed all medicals and living a good life but no matter how fit, they will not allow you to donate. that's fact." Is that the same if you have had a platelet transfusion? | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . I used to donate blood regularly and carried an organ doner card. When they started talking about the opt out insted of opt in I stopped donating and destroyed my donor's card. Donations should be by consent not because an opt out has been lost in the system I wrote my dissertation on this subject, I think you should read some articles concerning the issue and possibly rethink......the 'opt out' idea can benefit not only those needing an organ, but those families whom a loved ones wishes hadn't been expressed or discussed to/with them. It's a decision families face when in extreme shock & disbelief. The receiving of an organ is somewhat an 'opt out' system so why not vice versa? Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one?? The point is with an opt out system they are stealing organs from those who have not given consent. With the opt in system they can only use organs from people who have consented. Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one? Obviously not as that would deny many people who for whatever reason could not give consent from receiving an organ. Would I personally be happy to be refused an organ because I refused to donate my organs? Yes, because I have freely made the choice. There is a big difference between the two scenarios " Not true at all......with an opt out system how would anyone be stealing organs? If people are indifferent and not bothered they also won't be bothered if their organs are used once they are dead. If they opted out because they are against donation they wouldn't be touched! If they were pro organ donation but never got round to registering or expressing their wishes their organs would be used. The absolute most shocking thing that goes on now is where you have an individual who registered as an organ donor.......and then their family 'vito' their wishes (believe me they do) because THEY don't like the idea of it!! | |||
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"If you have received blood in the past, you can never donate. full stop. I received blood 30 years ago due to a RTA survived and fully fit, passed all medicals and living a good life but no matter how fit, they will not allow you to donate. that's fact. Is that the same if you have had a platelet transfusion?" I think it stands for all blood products. The rules & guidelines really need updating tbh....... | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . I used to donate blood regularly and carried an organ doner card. When they started talking about the opt out insted of opt in I stopped donating and destroyed my donor's card. Donations should be by consent not because an opt out has been lost in the system I wrote my dissertation on this subject, I think you should read some articles concerning the issue and possibly rethink......the 'opt out' idea can benefit not only those needing an organ, but those families whom a loved ones wishes hadn't been expressed or discussed to/with them. It's a decision families face when in extreme shock & disbelief. The receiving of an organ is somewhat an 'opt out' system so why not vice versa? Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one?? The point is with an opt out system they are stealing organs from those who have not given consent. With the opt in system they can only use organs from people who have consented. Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one? Obviously not as that would deny many people who for whatever reason could not give consent from receiving an organ. Would I personally be happy to be refused an organ because I refused to donate my organs? Yes, because I have freely made the choice. There is a big difference between the two scenarios Not true at all......with an opt out system how would anyone be stealing organs? If people are indifferent and not bothered they also won't be bothered if their organs are used once they are dead. If they opted out because they are against donation they wouldn't be touched! If they were pro organ donation but never got round to registering or expressing their wishes their organs would be used. The absolute most shocking thing that goes on now is where you have an individual who registered as an organ donor.......and then their family 'vito' their wishes (believe me they do) because THEY don't like the idea of it!! " So I presume the same could happen under a new system if the person has not opted out , then relatives could block/stop the harvest! | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . I used to donate blood regularly and carried an organ doner card. When they started talking about the opt out insted of opt in I stopped donating and destroyed my donor's card. Donations should be by consent not because an opt out has been lost in the system I wrote my dissertation on this subject, I think you should read some articles concerning the issue and possibly rethink......the 'opt out' idea can benefit not only those needing an organ, but those families whom a loved ones wishes hadn't been expressed or discussed to/with them. It's a decision families face when in extreme shock & disbelief. The receiving of an organ is somewhat an 'opt out' system so why not vice versa? Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one?? The point is with an opt out system they are stealing organs from those who have not given consent. With the opt in system they can only use organs from people who have consented. Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one? Obviously not as that would deny many people who for whatever reason could not give consent from receiving an organ. Would I personally be happy to be refused an organ because I refused to donate my organs? Yes, because I have freely made the choice. There is a big difference between the two scenarios Not true at all......with an opt out system how would anyone be stealing organs? If people are indifferent and not bothered they also won't be bothered if their organs are used once they are dead. If they opted out because they are against donation they wouldn't be touched! If they were pro organ donation but never got round to registering or expressing their wishes their organs would be used. The absolute most shocking thing that goes on now is where you have an individual who registered as an organ donor.......and then their family 'vito' their wishes (believe me they do) because THEY don't like the idea of it!! So I presume the same could happen under a new system if the person has not opted out , then relatives could block/stop the harvest!" Yes more than likely they could! The term 'harvest' isn't used anymore | |||
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"I gave up giving blood when i found out that the NHS sold donated blood products to private hospitals and clinics. I was furious that the NHS would profit financially from my donation. As for organ donation, because of anti rejection drugs being so good it is no longer the case where the best matched recipient gets the organ. A market has developed where money speaks. If you have enough money you can jump the queue and buy the organ. No thanks. I wont sign up to blood or organ donation As someone who works in the lucrative organ donation market I would just like to point out what utter shit you are talking " Sir, madam. Thank you for your comment as rude and uninformed as you appear to be. Might i suggest you research PRUK, Bain Capital, the UK, US and other subsidiary companies. The UK government used to say it was a non profit enterprise and those of us who have run a not for profit enterprise knows exactly what to do with profit to maintain the status. Many countries especially turkey, india, iran and mexico will ensure a supply of organs (given voluntarily or not) to the international transplant market. There have been numerous reports of private clinics, including those in the uk, of providing transplant services. Feel free to insult but a reasoned argument would be appreciated | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . I used to donate blood regularly and carried an organ doner card. When they started talking about the opt out insted of opt in I stopped donating and destroyed my donor's card. Donations should be by consent not because an opt out has been lost in the system I wrote my dissertation on this subject, I think you should read some articles concerning the issue and possibly rethink......the 'opt out' idea can benefit not only those needing an organ, but those families whom a loved ones wishes hadn't been expressed or discussed to/with them. It's a decision families face when in extreme shock & disbelief. The receiving of an organ is somewhat an 'opt out' system so why not vice versa? Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one?? The point is with an opt out system they are stealing organs from those who have not given consent. With the opt in system they can only use organs from people who have consented. Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one? Obviously not as that would deny many people who for whatever reason could not give consent from receiving an organ. Would I personally be happy to be refused an organ because I refused to donate my organs? Yes, because I have freely made the choice. There is a big difference between the two scenarios " I think that should be inforced anybody that chooses not to donate should not be allowed to receive why should people who make the choice not to help others after their death benifit from somebody else's ? and that does only apply to those who choose not to and not those who for whatever health reasons can't | |||
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"If you have received blood in the past, you can never donate. full stop. I received blood 30 years ago due to a RTA survived and fully fit, passed all medicals and living a good life but no matter how fit, they will not allow you to donate. that's fact. Is that the same if you have had a platelet transfusion? I think it stands for all blood products. The rules & guidelines really need updating tbh......." Ah right, my son had platelets at birth so it'll be handy to know if he mentions giving blood in future (if things haven't changed by then). x | |||
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"I gave up giving blood when i found out that the NHS sold donated blood products to private hospitals and clinics. I was furious that the NHS would profit financially from my donation. As for organ donation, because of anti rejection drugs being so good it is no longer the case where the best matched recipient gets the organ. A market has developed where money speaks. If you have enough money you can jump the queue and buy the organ. No thanks. I wont sign up to blood or organ donation As someone who works in the lucrative organ donation market I would just like to point out what utter shit you are talking Sir, madam. Thank you for your comment as rude and uninformed as you appear to be. Might i suggest you research PRUK, Bain Capital, the UK, US and other subsidiary companies. The UK government used to say it was a non profit enterprise and those of us who have run a not for profit enterprise knows exactly what to do with profit to maintain the status. Many countries especially turkey, india, iran and mexico will ensure a supply of organs (given voluntarily or not) to the international transplant market. There have been numerous reports of private clinics, including those in the uk, of providing transplant services. Feel free to insult but a reasoned argument would be appreciated" . No thank you, I have the privilege of working with organ donors and their families and have close colleagues who work with the recipients and theirs (we used to work with both but certain ethical issues involved meant we're now either or) I know first hand how organs are given and received in the NHS and that none are 'sold' or that money does not bump you up any list. Apologies if you felt my direct and to the point comment was rude, but I stand by it. I have no time or interest for anti organ donation propaganda.......proud of our organ donors and their families, would donate mine and my children's organs if ever that unfortunate & would accept an organ if needed/offered. So as someone on the 'inside' and potentially involved in what you're suggesting.......this should speak volumes! | |||
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"I gave up giving blood when i found out that the NHS sold donated blood products to private hospitals and clinics. I was furious that the NHS would profit financially from my donation. As for organ donation, because of anti rejection drugs being so good it is no longer the case where the best matched recipient gets the organ. A market has developed where money speaks. If you have enough money you can jump the queue and buy the organ. No thanks. I wont sign up to blood or organ donation As someone who works in the lucrative organ donation market I would just like to point out what utter shit you are talking Sir, madam. Thank you for your comment as rude and uninformed as you appear to be. Might i suggest you research PRUK, Bain Capital, the UK, US and other subsidiary companies. The UK government used to say it was a non profit enterprise and those of us who have run a not for profit enterprise knows exactly what to do with profit to maintain the status. Many countries especially turkey, india, iran and mexico will ensure a supply of organs (given voluntarily or not) to the international transplant market. There have been numerous reports of private clinics, including those in the uk, of providing transplant services. Feel free to insult but a reasoned argument would be appreciated. No thank you, I have the privilege of working with organ donors and their families and have close colleagues who work with the recipients and theirs (we used to work with both but certain ethical issues involved meant we're now either or) I know first hand how organs are given and received in the NHS and that none are 'sold' or that money does not bump you up any list. Apologies if you felt my direct and to the point comment was rude, but I stand by it. I have no time or interest for anti organ donation propaganda.......proud of our organ donors and their families, would donate mine and my children's organs if ever that unfortunate & would accept an organ if needed/offered. So as someone on the 'inside' and potentially involved in what you're suggesting.......this should speak volumes! " This has also been my experience from close family who work in the field. I hope those with anti-donation propagandist messages are all ensuring they opt-out of receiving an organ or a blood donation, should they be unlucky enough to need one. I'd much prefer an opt-out system. For those who feel strongly against it for whatever reason, this would seem to me to provide them with MORE protection because they'd be clearly identified as having stated they didn't want their organs used, and I assume family wouldn't be able to overrule that. If a few people get their noses put out of joint because they want to see it as a conspiracy theory, well boo fucking hoo, people die every week for lack of suitable organs for transplant. | |||
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"Donor not doner,, lol who would want my second hand kebab , doh typos !" You never know as long as its Still in the packageing not been opened Yet less than half price should do it.. | |||
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"Yep I am a blood doner , here I Wales we are adopting a new system to organ donation. Instead of opting in , as every where else. You have to opt out of organ donation. Ots been quiet a controversial issue here. Its been handled well will an informer campaign. Tv adverts and letters to all . I used to donate blood regularly and carried an organ doner card. When they started talking about the opt out insted of opt in I stopped donating and destroyed my donor's card. Donations should be by consent not because an opt out has been lost in the system I wrote my dissertation on this subject, I think you should read some articles concerning the issue and possibly rethink......the 'opt out' idea can benefit not only those needing an organ, but those families whom a loved ones wishes hadn't been expressed or discussed to/with them. It's a decision families face when in extreme shock & disbelief. The receiving of an organ is somewhat an 'opt out' system so why not vice versa? Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one?? The point is with an opt out system they are stealing organs from those who have not given consent. With the opt in system they can only use organs from people who have consented. Would you be happy with a system that only allows organs to those who were registered as organ donors prior to needing one? Obviously not as that would deny many people who for whatever reason could not give consent from receiving an organ. Would I personally be happy to be refused an organ because I refused to donate my organs? Yes, because I have freely made the choice. There is a big difference between the two scenarios Not true at all......with an opt out system how would anyone be stealing organs? If people are indifferent and not bothered they also won't be bothered if their organs are used once they are dead. If they opted out because they are against donation they wouldn't be touched! If they were pro organ donation but never got round to registering or expressing their wishes their organs would be used. The absolute most shocking thing that goes on now is where you have an individual who registered as an organ donor.......and then their family 'vito' their wishes (believe me they do) because THEY don't like the idea of it!! So I presume the same could happen under a new system if the person has not opted out , then relatives could block/stop the harvest! Yes more than likely they could! The term 'harvest' isn't used anymore " Interesting. What is the correct term? Cheers | |||
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"I would willingly donate my organs when I die, but have a feeling the meds that stop me from donating blood may make them not want any other part of me either " They gave a man a cirrhotic liver...or something like it.... Think if your organs are functional, they will use them bird....x | |||
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"I would willingly donate my organs when I die, but have a feeling the meds that stop me from donating blood may make them not want any other part of me either They gave a man a cirrhotic liver...or something like it.... Think if your organs are functional, they will use them bird....x" Thanks. I feel a little less useless now | |||
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"Used to donate blood. Have not for a few years, as according to the blood donor centre am anaemic. Keep telling me to wait 12months, eat iron rich food, then go back. Each year I go back to be told the same thing. Hopefully next year, should be able to donate." Same reason here why i dont give blood but i am a registered organ donor Her | |||
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