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By *reelove1969 OP   Couple
over a year ago

bristol

A couple were charged with child neglect last year as their 11 year old son weighed 15 stone ..all charges are now dropped ...is it right for the authorities to intervene ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes at the that weight the child could very well have had a heart attack or stroke!

If parents are done for not feeding a child and malnourishment shouldnt they be done for over feeding a child and not caring for ther health

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Yes

If he was being starved they would rightly intervene too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the child has medical reasons for growing so big then no but if the parents are purely feeding this child sweets and McDonald's then yes - it's killing the child.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

Intervene to protect a child??....absolutely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, if they didn't - who else was going to act in that child's best interests?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes

If he was being starved they would rightly intervene too"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is heartbreaking sometimes the reason why children are removed from their parents care.

The parents love their children but due to certain reasons, usually low intelligence & lack of family support, they have no idea how to look after a baby so the baby is taken away from them.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is heartbreaking sometimes the reason why children are removed from their parents care.

The parents love their children but due to certain reasons, usually low intelligence & lack of family support, they have no idea how to look after a baby so the baby is taken away from them."

Next people will be advocating sterilising thick people.....

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

I've just come from my youngest's school awards evening. A large proportion of the pupils there could do with having less portions.

She won five awards btw.

------ Proud father grin

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

What I do think is wrong though, is that someone can be arrested and released on bail for a whole year without charges being brought.

Wasn't that just meant to be for very rare terrorism cases?

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is heartbreaking sometimes the reason why children are removed from their parents care.

The parents love their children but due to certain reasons, usually low intelligence & lack of family support, they have no idea how to look after a baby so the baby is taken away from them.

Next people will be advocating sterilising thick people....."

If the child is suffering harm because the parents can't see what they are doing is detrimental to the child's safety & well-being, the courts will remove the child from their care. They are given every chance to engage with support given to them but can't or won't see they are doing anything wrong.

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"It is heartbreaking sometimes the reason why children are removed from their parents care.

The parents love their children but due to certain reasons, usually low intelligence & lack of family support, they have no idea how to look after a baby so the baby is taken away from them.

Next people will be advocating sterilising thick people....."

good idea lol

yes they should intervene but educating them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

"

The thing is you have a clear trail which shows you are actively trying to get medical help and that you are being a proactive parents and encouraging him in sports!

I hope they give him the medication that is needed to help him and oh def get him into rugby its a great team sport and should build up his confidence too x

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

The thing is you have a clear trail which shows you are actively trying to get medical help and that you are being a proactive parents and encouraging him in sports!

I hope they give him the medication that is needed to help him and oh def get him into rugby its a great team sport and should build up his confidence too x"

That's my thinking for the rugby too!!! I'm just fed up of people thinking badly of him &/or me.

I've recently moved from a job in a local government legal dept where we took the legal action to remove the children from parents. It's not a decision taken lightly as the costs involved are huge. If parents can be educated & supported then social services will put this in place but it's scary the amount that can't cope or don't want to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the child has medical reasons for growing so big then no but if the parents are purely feeding this child sweets and McDonald's then yes - it's killing the child."

There are no medical reasons for being overweight. It's called gluttony.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the authorities could actually do anything, then yes, absolutely. But what do you suggest they do? Remove the child and....

Perhaps better to work with the family, but even then there's no guarantee of success.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A couple were charged with child neglect last year as their 11 year old son weighed 15 stone ..all charges are now dropped ...is it right for the authorities to intervene ?"

Yes if course it is right for the authorities to intervene. Before the neglect charge will of been made you can bet that all methods of supporting this family will of been tried and obviously failed.

The trouble with cases like this is the media attention that tries to cash in on the 'human horror' side of the story. The reality is very overweight children are more likely to have major long term health issues.Support and education are key but sometimes when all that fails tough decisions have to be made.Not an easy thing to do but sometimes necessary.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"If the child has medical reasons for growing so big then no but if the parents are purely feeding this child sweets and McDonald's then yes - it's killing the child.

There are no medical reasons for being overweight. It's called gluttony. "

Really????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

The thing is you have a clear trail which shows you are actively trying to get medical help and that you are being a proactive parents and encouraging him in sports!

I hope they give him the medication that is needed to help him and oh def get him into rugby its a great team sport and should build up his confidence too x

That's my thinking for the rugby too!!! I'm just fed up of people thinking badly of him &/or me.

I've recently moved from a job in a local government legal dept where we took the legal action to remove the children from parents. It's not a decision taken lightly as the costs involved are huge. If parents can be educated & supported then social services will put this in place but it's scary the amount that can't cope or don't want to "

Well when he is a big burly well built but muscly rugby player in the prime of his life he will know that his parents fought to get him happy & healthy!

Very true i think some people think its a light decision to take a child away, unfortunately some people should never have had children but its a basic human right and cant be stopped

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the child has medical reasons for growing so big then no but if the parents are purely feeding this child sweets and McDonald's then yes - it's killing the child.

There are no medical reasons for being overweight. It's called gluttony. "

What a very naive & silly thing to say.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

The thing is you have a clear trail which shows you are actively trying to get medical help and that you are being a proactive parents and encouraging him in sports!

I hope they give him the medication that is needed to help him and oh def get him into rugby its a great team sport and should build up his confidence too x

That's my thinking for the rugby too!!! I'm just fed up of people thinking badly of him &/or me.

I've recently moved from a job in a local government legal dept where we took the legal action to remove the children from parents. It's not a decision taken lightly as the costs involved are huge. If parents can be educated & supported then social services will put this in place but it's scary the amount that can't cope or don't want to

Well when he is a big burly well built but muscly rugby player in the prime of his life he will know that his parents fought to get him happy & healthy!

Very true i think some people think its a light decision to take a child away, unfortunately some people should never have had children but its a basic human right and cant be stopped "

Sadly you're right & even worse is my sister is 1 of those people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

The thing is you have a clear trail which shows you are actively trying to get medical help and that you are being a proactive parents and encouraging him in sports!

I hope they give him the medication that is needed to help him and oh def get him into rugby its a great team sport and should build up his confidence too x

That's my thinking for the rugby too!!! I'm just fed up of people thinking badly of him &/or me.

I've recently moved from a job in a local government legal dept where we took the legal action to remove the children from parents. It's not a decision taken lightly as the costs involved are huge. If parents can be educated & supported then social services will put this in place but it's scary the amount that can't cope or don't want to "

I work in a County Court so I see it from the courts point of view. I don't think people realise just how much goes on before the decision to remove the child is taken which is why certain posts in this thread make me angry.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

The thing is you have a clear trail which shows you are actively trying to get medical help and that you are being a proactive parents and encouraging him in sports!

I hope they give him the medication that is needed to help him and oh def get him into rugby its a great team sport and should build up his confidence too x

That's my thinking for the rugby too!!! I'm just fed up of people thinking badly of him &/or me.

I've recently moved from a job in a local government legal dept where we took the legal action to remove the children from parents. It's not a decision taken lightly as the costs involved are huge. If parents can be educated & supported then social services will put this in place but it's scary the amount that can't cope or don't want to

I work in a County Court so I see it from the courts point of view. I don't think people realise just how much goes on before the decision to remove the child is taken which is why certain posts in this thread make me angry."

completely agree!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the child has medical reasons for growing so big then no but if the parents are purely feeding this child sweets and McDonald's then yes - it's killing the child.

There are no medical reasons for being overweight. It's called gluttony. "

Why were we all genetically engineered to be average??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

The thing is you have a clear trail which shows you are actively trying to get medical help and that you are being a proactive parents and encouraging him in sports!

I hope they give him the medication that is needed to help him and oh def get him into rugby its a great team sport and should build up his confidence too x

That's my thinking for the rugby too!!! I'm just fed up of people thinking badly of him &/or me.

I've recently moved from a job in a local government legal dept where we took the legal action to remove the children from parents. It's not a decision taken lightly as the costs involved are huge. If parents can be educated & supported then social services will put this in place but it's scary the amount that can't cope or don't want to

I work in a County Court so I see it from the courts point of view. I don't think people realise just how much goes on before the decision to remove the child is taken which is why certain posts in this thread make me angry."

Some social workers just want to rip family's apart for the hell of it! I know first hand

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By *ythenshawefredMan
over a year ago

stockport

Ok 11 but there are 11 year olds that are 6'1 and built like brick out houses while there are others 4'3 that are still little kids kids develop at different rates

I've not got any taller since I was 12 and was the giant of the team yet the scrum half (skinny little kid) in my rugby team at school is now 6'5 and could fold me in two and put me in his pocket (seriously glad he doesn't remember all the shit I gave him then)

Numbers age wise can be misleading

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These the parent whos repeatedly refused to follow doctors and medical professionals advice?

If it's the case im thinking of it wasn't simply someone going "your son's fat were charging you with neglect" it was going on for a long time and they were refusing to do anything about it and Carey on feeding him far too much till eventually it got reported

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

The thing is you have a clear trail which shows you are actively trying to get medical help and that you are being a proactive parents and encouraging him in sports!

I hope they give him the medication that is needed to help him and oh def get him into rugby its a great team sport and should build up his confidence too x

That's my thinking for the rugby too!!! I'm just fed up of people thinking badly of him &/or me.

I've recently moved from a job in a local government legal dept where we took the legal action to remove the children from parents. It's not a decision taken lightly as the costs involved are huge. If parents can be educated & supported then social services will put this in place but it's scary the amount that can't cope or don't want to

I work in a County Court so I see it from the courts point of view. I don't think people realise just how much goes on before the decision to remove the child is taken which is why certain posts in this thread make me angry.

Some social workers just want to rip family's apart for the hell of it! I know first hand "

Social workers aren't involved except for good reason.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the child has medical reasons for growing so big then no but if the parents are purely feeding this child sweets and McDonald's then yes - it's killing the child.

There are no medical reasons for being overweight. It's called gluttony.

Really????"

Are there fat people in third world countries?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the child has medical reasons for growing so big then no but if the parents are purely feeding this child sweets and McDonald's then yes - it's killing the child.

There are no medical reasons for being overweight. It's called gluttony.

Really????

Are there fat people in third world countries? "

Yes....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My boys are chalk & cheese. My eldest nearly 14 is all skin & bone, weighs about 6.5 stone, taller than me & looks malnourished. My youngest nearly 9 is seriously overweight. We've been fighting for 2 years to get him diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (which runs in my family & I am borderline).

Consultant has diagnosed but is reluctant to give thyroxine just yet & he's getting bigger regardless of what we do. We've seen a dietician & a nutritionalist who just contradict each other.

He walks 0.7 miles to school & then back every day, swims twice a week as well as school pe & cubs activities. He's now showing an interest in rugby too.

It breaks my heart to see him like this & people are cruel, point their fingers, call him fat & assume I'm to blame.

The thing is you have a clear trail which shows you are actively trying to get medical help and that you are being a proactive parents and encouraging him in sports!

I hope they give him the medication that is needed to help him and oh def get him into rugby its a great team sport and should build up his confidence too x

That's my thinking for the rugby too!!! I'm just fed up of people thinking badly of him &/or me.

I've recently moved from a job in a local government legal dept where we took the legal action to remove the children from parents. It's not a decision taken lightly as the costs involved are huge. If parents can be educated & supported then social services will put this in place but it's scary the amount that can't cope or don't want to

I work in a County Court so I see it from the courts point of view. I don't think people realise just how much goes on before the decision to remove the child is taken which is why certain posts in this thread make me angry.

Some social workers just want to rip family's apart for the hell of it! I know first hand

Social workers aren't involved except for good reason."

Yes they are,I have them involved with my children and I have done nothing wrong apart from split with their dad and have depression! They should be offering me support not trying to snatch my kids!

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