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By *unlovers OP   Couple
over a year ago

rotherham

Has all this news put people off going to Tunisia

My son is going in August and I'm now worried as its in the same area as this recent shooting

How would you feel if it was your family

Xx

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

Have said this on a few posts recent events show that nowhere is safe. If you stop living your life the terrorist wins. Most folk go to resorts which have higher security.

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

i am surprised its not happened at a football ground

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Anyone visiting any of the Saharan, Sub-Saharan or Mediterranean Muslim countries must realize that being British in these countries makes you a target for radical Islamists.

Personally I would not risk my life for a week in the sun, but each to their own...

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"Anyone visiting any of the Saharan, Sub-Saharan or Mediterranean Muslim countries must realize that being British in these countries makes you a target for radical Islamists.

Personally I would not risk my life for a week in the sun, but each to their own... "
would you go to spain ? There have been many terrorist alerts due to eta

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boooked to go In September this year and September next year.

Definitely won't be going this year now.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Anyone visiting any of the Saharan, Sub-Saharan or Mediterranean Muslim countries must realize that being British in these countries makes you a target for radical Islamists.

Personally I would not risk my life for a week in the sun, but each to their own... would you go to spain ? There have been many terrorist alerts due to eta "

Not when ETE were bombing the place. Fact is as a tourist you always have a higher risk of being a victim of crime wherever you are, but to add the risk of being deliberately targeted by the local terrorists looking for soft targets to advance their cause is just one order of risk too many for me. After all there are always places you can go where that extra risk does not exist.

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By *usty cazCouple
over a year ago

Oldham

My sister is out there in one of the hotels x

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"Anyone visiting any of the Saharan, Sub-Saharan or Mediterranean Muslim countries must realize that being British in these countries makes you a target for radical Islamists.

Personally I would not risk my life for a week in the sun, but each to their own... would you go to spain ? There have been many terrorist alerts due to eta

Not when ETE were bombing the place. Fact is as a tourist you always have a higher risk of being a victim of crime wherever you are, but to add the risk of being deliberately targeted by the local terrorists looking for soft targets to advance their cause is just one order of risk too many for me. After all there are always places you can go where that extra risk does not exist. "
the risk is everywhere though your living in a country that is high risk.the ira have and still do plot actions hereas well as islamic terror groups.its everyones choice but I wont be forced to live in perpetual fear by terrorists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got put of Tunisia and the like a few years ago when someone tried to snatch my daughter. Never again.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"Has all this news put people off going to Tunisia

My son is going in August and I'm now worried as its in the same area as this recent shooting

How would you feel if it was your family

Xx"

If it was my children, my heart would be worried even though my head would say it would be fine.

If it was me it wouldn't faze me, and I'd just think of the shorter queues at the buffet.

According to the papers, someone has been trying to blow me up/shoot me all my life. Maybe one day my time will come, maybe it won't, but in the meantime I won't let any little cowards win by changing my perceptions nor blaming any group of people for the actions of a few.

Mr ddc

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Callmedave has said we need to prepare ourselves for many British deaths. Maybe he will find the balls to withdraw all UK support to that part of the world. But I doubt it...

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By *eforfuncplCouple
over a year ago

Morecambe


"My sister is out there in one of the hotels x"

Hope she's safe x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm due to go in 4 weeks! Even if I wanted to change I couldn't until the tour operator offers me an alternative.

I'm still contemplating going though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm due to go in 4 weeks! Even if I wanted to change I couldn't until the tour operator offers me an alternative.

I'm still contemplating going though"

If you're going with Thompson or First Choice I think they have offered you that opportunity now.

I'm off to Turkey in 5 weeks...I'm happy to take my chances...it's the kids I'm scared for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm due to go in 4 weeks! Even if I wanted to change I couldn't until the tour operator offers me an alternative.

I'm still contemplating going though

If you're going with Thompson or First Choice I think they have offered you that opportunity now.

I'm off to Turkey in 5 weeks...I'm happy to take my chances...it's the kids I'm scared for."

They have if you fly up to the 24th July

I go 26th

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Callmedave has said we need to prepare ourselves for many British deaths. Maybe he will find the balls to withdraw all UK support to that part of the world. But I doubt it..."

why should we withdraw support for what is a secular society in a democratic country?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I'm off to Turkey in 5 weeks...I'm happy to take my chances...it's the kids I'm scared for."

WoW! Thats all... WoW!

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"Callmedave has said we need to prepare ourselves for many British deaths. Maybe he will find the balls to withdraw all UK support to that part of the world. But I doubt it..."
withdraw support to a country for the actions of terrorists more hard talk and severe punisments and education is what I think is needed

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

It wouldn't put me off. Millions of people visit Tunisi.they can't kill me all..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your all panicking about nothing.

Your far more likely to die of the skin cancer from exposure to the powerful sun than bullets!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mothers booked to go last week of August with her friend but they are cancelling it, think they've been offered somewhere in the Canary Islands instead. I'm worries about going to Marbella end of July!

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By *eforfuncplCouple
over a year ago

Morecambe

Names starting to come out now God bless em all and those they've left behind xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It wouldn't put me off. I still travel on the tube despite 7/7, I still travel on planes despite 9/11 and countless other incidents, I don't let the deaths of other cyclists stop me cycling or stop driving on motorways because of accidents. People die everyday doing things that I do

The point is that you can't out think death - when your time's up it's up. And spending your life not doing things because you might die is exactly the sort of fear terrorists want.

Tunisia has never appealed but I'll be back in Morroccco next year and won't give terrorists a second thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your all panicking about nothing.

Your far more likely to die of the skin cancer from exposure to the powerful sun than bullets!"

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'm booking a holiday atm but wont consider Tunisia for the foreseeable future. Probably low risk but will stick to lower risk areas.

If it was my mum id try to influence her to change and obviously watch the situation. Probably little that can be done against their machine guns etc.

It may be refundable if government advice is to not travel or do so with restrictions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Probably best not to parade around with a knotted Union Jack hankie on your head for a while.

Little bit of discretion and self awareness and people should be fine. Don't let them win. Besides tourist areas now are going to have a shit ton of security forces around them now.

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By *eforfuncplCouple
over a year ago

Morecambe

We face many threats around this crazy world ! If we stick together we'll get through these crazy times x

Remember Paris just a few months ago xxx

Jes Suis Charlie xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not a terrorist threat that puts me off visiting Tunisia or any other predominent muslim countries, its their constant hounding trying to get you into their shops which pisses me off and the abuse they dish out when you refuse. To me the shop owners in these countries are as irritating as mosquitoes are in this country,

As for terrorisn i would assume their security is so high at the moment terrorists will probably look for a softer target

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a great big desert that's as hot as an oven, the floor is so hot it burnt peoples feet running off, there's fucking nothing there except a pool and a palm tree and a great big nuclear fire ball in the sky that you all sit around slowly cooking yourself to death on cheap booze to numb the pain!

And for some reason your worried about being shot!

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"It's a great big desert that's as hot as an oven, the floor is so hot it burnt peoples feet running off, there's fucking nothing there except a pool and a palm tree and a great big nuclear fire ball in the sky that you all sit around slowly cooking yourself to death on cheap booze to numb the pain!

And for some reason your worried about being shot! "

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"It's a great big desert that's as hot as an oven, the floor is so hot it burnt peoples feet running off, there's fucking nothing there except a pool and a palm tree and a great big nuclear fire ball in the sky that you all sit around slowly cooking yourself to death on cheap booze to numb the pain!

And for some reason your worried about being shot! "
pmsl you thought of becoming a tourism representative

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a great big desert that's as hot as an oven, the floor is so hot it burnt peoples feet running off, there's fucking nothing there except a pool and a palm tree and a great big nuclear fire ball in the sky that you all sit around slowly cooking yourself to death on cheap booze to numb the pain!

And for some reason your worried about being shot! pmsl you thought of becoming a tourism representative"
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It's the new honest tourism approach... I got the idea of estate agents!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"It wouldn't put me off. I still travel on the tube despite 7/7, I still travel on planes despite 9/11 and countless other incidents, "

thats fair... however we all know how twitchy were were and looking at everyone for the day/week after those event... people were looking over their shoulders suspiciously when in effect its probably safer to travel at those times for the fact that everyone was more aware

so if i was going in the next few weeks... to be honest i wouldn't... next few months and i would have changed my mind....

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"It's a great big desert that's as hot as an oven, the floor is so hot it burnt peoples feet running off, there's fucking nothing there except a pool and a palm tree and a great big nuclear fire ball in the sky that you all sit around slowly cooking yourself to death on cheap booze to numb the pain!

And for some reason your worried about being shot! "

That has got to be in the running for post of the week.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"It's a great big desert that's as hot as an oven, the floor is so hot it burnt peoples feet running off, there's fucking nothing there except a pool and a palm tree and a great big nuclear fire ball in the sky that you all sit around slowly cooking yourself to death on cheap booze to numb the pain!

And for some reason your worried about being shot! "

that made me chuckle..

the great obsession for some in the west to look like those from the east and some of those in the east want to look like those in the west..

all a bit different..

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By *rances TVTV/TS
over a year ago

Lytham St Anne's

I went to that hotel last year and had the best and most enjoyable holiday and I certainly would go back there again no problem

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Its not a terrorist threat that puts me off visiting Tunisia or any other predominent muslim countries, its their constant hounding trying to get you into their shops which pisses me off and the abuse they dish out when you refuse. To me the shop owners in these countries are as irritating as mosquitoes are in this country,

As for terrorisn i would assume their security is so high at the moment terrorists will probably look for a softer target"

You forgot to mention the Delhi belly too, I think everyone I know who has been to Egypt has come back with a stomach bug of some sort.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The terrorists want us to stop going..... Run the Tunisian economy down so they can roll another country over.

It is not Islam.....it is simple Fascism using religion as an excuse.

Same happened in 1930s Nazi Germany. That time it took 10 years for the rest of the world to react...and a six year world war to sort it out.

Wonder how long it takes this time before serious action is taken rather than pissing about at the edges?

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy


"Its not a terrorist threat that puts me off visiting Tunisia or any other predominent muslim countries, its their constant hounding trying to get you into their shops which pisses me off and the abuse they dish out when you refuse. To me the shop owners in these countries are as irritating as mosquitoes are in this country,

As for terrorisn i would assume their security is so high at the moment terrorists will probably look for a softer target"

I've heard they even go so far as to lock you in a shop, and refuse to let you out until you buy something in Turkey.

Went to Tunisia (actually the same area of Sousse/Port El Kantaoui that's affected), in the mid 90's on a college trip, and remember being followed down the street by a shopkeeper who was trying to dress me in their garb. Would not take 'no', for an answer.

Went to Sharm (Naama Bay Area) in Egypt in 2005, and the taxi drivers were a bloody nightmare. You'd agree a fare with them upon getting into the taxi, by the time they reached your destination they'd be feigning amnesia and trying to charge you more. Amusing at first, but after two weeks of this, I couldn't wait to get back home!

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By *unlovers OP   Couple
over a year ago

rotherham

I do realise things like this can happen anywhere but as its my son who is going to the same area in Tunisia I'm worried......most mothers would be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The terrorists want us to stop going..... Run the Tunisian economy down so they can roll another country over.

It is not Islam.....it is simple Fascism using religion as an excuse.

Same happened in 1930s Nazi Germany. That time it took 10 years for the rest of the world to react...and a six year world war to sort it out.

Wonder how long it takes this time before serious action is taken rather than pissing about at the edges?"

While its still "contained" in the Middle east/Africa and only random attacks in the west I can't see anything changing, It's not really affecting the banking system or the economies of the biggest countries yet and after all there is no profit in peace

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do realise things like this can happen anywhere but as its my son who is going to the same area in Tunisia I'm worried......most mothers would be

"

I agree with you hun, I would be worried if it was my son going. Keep an eye on the foreign office website as their crisis alerts are what ABTA / Tour Operators go by with regards to British nationals travelling abroad.

x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My son is there at the moment. Had a definite wobble for a couple of hours yesterday when I couldn't reach him as the news was breaking. Such a relief when he eventually responded to my messages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My friend is booked to go right near where the trouble is

She went travel agents and was told if she canceled it she will lose her money

It's not safe at the minute I think people should be given option of changing locations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about Turkey would u feel safe going there now ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has all this news put people off going to Tunisia

My son is going in August and I'm now worried as its in the same area as this recent shooting

How would you feel if it was your family

Xx"

I appreciate where you're coming from. If it was my son or daughter going I'd encourage him or her to book elsewhere, but if it was just me going then it wouldn't worry me.

It's a stressful position to be in for you...I hope it all works out well.

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By *enithWoman
over a year ago

closer than you think


"Its not a terrorist threat that puts me off visiting Tunisia or any other predominent muslim countries, its their constant hounding trying to get you into their shops which pisses me off and the abuse they dish out when you refuse. To me the shop owners in these countries are as irritating as mosquitoes are in this country,

As for terrorisn i would assume their security is so high at the moment terrorists will probably look for a softer target

You forgot to mention the Delhi belly too, I think everyone I know who has been to Egypt has come back with a stomach bug of some sort. "

But they are talking about Tunisia not Egypt ...... I spent 10 days in Sharm earlier this year and had no problem. The main thing that causes stomach bugs is the handling of the currency! The notes are filthy, whenever we touched the currency we immediately cleaned our hands with the hand wash disinfectant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My friend is booked to go right near where the trouble is

She went travel agents and was told if she canceled it she will lose her money

It's not safe at the minute I think people should be given option of changing locations "

I'm pretty sure the goverment advice will change re Tunisia and the tour operators will act.

That aside your friend can always pay to change her holiday if that's an option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My son is there at the moment. Had a definite wobble for a couple of hours yesterday when I couldn't reach him as the news was breaking. Such a relief when he eventually responded to my messages. "

OMG such a relief for you and him I would have been a nervous wreck. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I wouldn't go to a Muslim country presently, - yes, it can happen anywhere but in a Muslim country the risk is much higher imo.

It's strange but we were having this very conversation in a pub a few months ago & we all agreed that the traditional holiday destinations of Morocco, Tunisia & Egypt were too risky since the ugly rising of IS.

Such easy pickings lying on a beach when the target is just colour of skin.

Poor people!

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"Personally, I wouldn't go to a Muslim country presently, - yes, it can happen anywhere but in a Muslim country the risk is much higher imo.

"

Leaving aside the obvious warzones where current problems have been instigated by the west can you point us to the evidence for this statement?

The irony being that statistically you're far more at risk of being killed driving to the airport. Annual UK road deaths are around 1700 a year with 21,000 serious injuries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I wouldn't go to a Muslim country presently, - yes, it can happen anywhere but in a Muslim country the risk is much higher imo.

Leaving aside the obvious warzones where current problems have been instigated by the west can you point us to the evidence for this statement?

The irony being that statistically you're far more at risk of being killed driving to the airport. Annual UK road deaths are around 1700 a year with 21,000 serious injuries."

I would have thought the lack of stable government in all North African and Middle East Countries not counting those who commit staggering Human rights abuse was enough.

Plus terrorist attacks leading to massive loss of life in holiday resorts such as Luxor,Sharm, Marrakech and now Tunissia is proof enough for a careful traveller.

Your ironic comment about having a road traffic accident is made even more ironic because the chances of a road traffic accident is even more increased in one of the aformentioned countries.

If people want to be careful let them don't judge them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I wouldn't go to a Muslim country presently, - yes, it can happen anywhere but in a Muslim country the risk is much higher imo.

Leaving aside the obvious warzones where current problems have been instigated by the west can you point us to the evidence for this statement?

The irony being that statistically you're far more at risk of being killed driving to the airport. Annual UK road deaths are around 1700 a year with 21,000 serious injuries."

Just common sense, that's all.

But if you want a Stat then there were 5 or 6 of us in the sober-ish discussion & 100% agreed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we are off to skanes near Sousse at the beginning of September and these so called terrorists wont keep me away ,they are everywhere and at least we know they are there which gives us a distinct advantage to be vigilant , do we know where they are over here? we still leave our home everyday ,it could be a neighbour or a colleague or even according to the recent news a family member

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By *igsweatysackMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

Weekend in skegness suits me! why go abroad when we got such a brilliant island here UK ROCKS!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I wouldn't go to a Muslim country presently, - yes, it can happen anywhere but in a Muslim country the risk is much higher imo.

Leaving aside the obvious warzones where current problems have been instigated by the west can you point us to the evidence for this statement?

The irony being that statistically you're far more at risk of being killed driving to the airport. Annual UK road deaths are around 1700 a year with 21,000 serious injuries."

Just a few more points:

The 'Evidence' in my statement is in the news right now & with a basic geographical knowledge you'll find Tunisia bordered by Algeria (hardly the safest of countries to travel through with white skin) & the fallen state of Libya (you can work those dangers for yourself/selves - & if you're worried about driving to the airport, - let the train take the strain!!

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"Personally, I wouldn't go to a Muslim country presently, - yes, it can happen anywhere but in a Muslim country the risk is much higher imo.

Leaving aside the obvious warzones where current problems have been instigated by the west can you point us to the evidence for this statement?

The irony being that statistically you're far more at risk of being killed driving to the airport. Annual UK road deaths are around 1700 a year with 21,000 serious injuries.

I would have thought the lack of stable government in all North African and Middle East Countries not counting those who commit staggering Human rights abuse was enough.

Plus terrorist attacks leading to massive loss of life in holiday resorts such as Luxor,Sharm, Marrakech and now Tunissia is proof enough for a careful traveller.

"

Sorry but you are just quoting tabloid like statements without facts. The main reason of course that many of these countries are unstable is because of our intervention in Iraq and Libya. ISIS is the child of war, the creation of more than a decade of invasion, occupation and bombing in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and elsewhere. The war on terror has created more terrorism

The simple assertion that the risk is higher in a Muslim country is presented without any facts.

From April 2013 to March 2014 there were 856 British deaths in Spain, 22 rapes and 18 sexual assaults. In Thailand there were 362 deaths, 11 rapes and 6 sexual assaults of British subjects. In Pakistan (Muslim) there were 21 deaths, 0 rapes and 1 sexual assault on British subjects in the same period despite 393,00 visitors.

Then if you want terrorist incidents there are those like Anders Breivik (Christian) in Norway who killed 77.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I wouldn't go to a Muslim country presently, - yes, it can happen anywhere but in a Muslim country the risk is much higher imo.

Leaving aside the obvious warzones where current problems have been instigated by the west can you point us to the evidence for this statement?

The irony being that statistically you're far more at risk of being killed driving to the airport. Annual UK road deaths are around 1700 a year with 21,000 serious injuries.

I would have thought the lack of stable government in all North African and Middle East Countries not counting those who commit staggering Human rights abuse was enough.

Plus terrorist attacks leading to massive loss of life in holiday resorts such as Luxor,Sharm, Marrakech and now Tunissia is proof enough for a careful traveller.

Sorry but you are just quoting tabloid like statements without facts. The main reason of course that many of these countries are unstable is because of our intervention in Iraq and Libya. ISIS is the child of war, the creation of more than a decade of invasion, occupation and bombing in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and elsewhere. The war on terror has created more terrorism

The simple assertion that the risk is higher in a Muslim country is presented without any facts.

From April 2013 to March 2014 there were 856 British deaths in Spain, 22 rapes and 18 sexual assaults. In Thailand there were 362 deaths, 11 rapes and 6 sexual assaults of British subjects. In Pakistan (Muslim) there were 21 deaths, 0 rapes and 1 sexual assault on British subjects in the same period despite 393,00 visitors.

Then if you want terrorist incidents there are those like Anders Breivik (Christian) in Norway who killed 77."

Tabloid facts no. Human rights watch facts and FCO travel advise. Please feel free to provide a country with a stable government that does not have a record of human right abuses and documented terrorist attacks.

Notice you had to resort to using Pakistan which is outside the area stated.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


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Tabloid facts no. Human rights watch facts and FCO travel advise. Please feel free to provide a country with a stable government that does not have a record of human right abuses and documented terrorist attacks.

Notice you had to resort to using Pakistan which is outside the area stated. "

The OP mentioned Muslim countries, Pakistan is a Muslim Country and I only used that as an example because none of the countries mentioned featured in the list of the top 20 countries where British nationals needed consular assistance (Foreign Office statistics).

I'm sorry but I don't understand the first part of your post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Tabloid facts no. Human rights watch facts and FCO travel advise. Please feel free to provide a country with a stable government that does not have a record of human right abuses and documented terrorist attacks.

Notice you had to resort to using Pakistan which is outside the area stated.

The OP mentioned Muslim countries, Pakistan is a Muslim Country and I only used that as an example because none of the countries mentioned featured in the list of the top 20 countries where British nationals needed consular assistance (Foreign Office statistics).

I'm sorry but I don't understand the first part of your post. "

Fantastic it all becomes clear now. Trying to think of the old saying........

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By *unlovers OP   Couple
over a year ago

rotherham

I onky mentioned Tunisia as saw all the shite on the news

Didn't mention any other country

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

Its a touchy subject and throwing stats and figure at it solves nothing.up until this event it was seen as safe. Or most folk believed it to be safe and a great holiday.As horrible as it is a bus crash between resorts could have had the same figures.how many of us here have since the london bombing returned to the capital city to take in a show , to have a night out, a dirty weekend without any thought to that horrible crime ? We go of to spain not a care in the world but the terrorist threat there is also high. As someone above posted if we allow terrorists to dictate what we do where we go and live in fear they have won. Right now the safest place to be is probably tunisia these people are not our enemys and im sure are deeply saddened at the events that has passed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its a touchy subject and throwing stats and figure at it solves nothing.up until this event it was seen as safe. Or most folk believed it to be safe and a great holiday.As horrible as it is a bus crash between resorts could have had the same figures.how many of us here have since the london bombing returned to the capital city to take in a show , to have a night out, a dirty weekend without any thought to that horrible crime ? We go of to spain not a care in the world but the terrorist threat there is also high. As someone above posted if we allow terrorists to dictate what we do where we go and live in fear they have won. Right now the safest place to be is probably tunisia these people are not our enemys and im sure are deeply saddened at the events that has passed "

Completely agree however if people show caution I don't think that's a bad thing either and certainly nothing to be scoffed at by people.

Seeing the latest release from ISIS saying they are going to attack "nests of fornication" resorts this summer would make me uneasy at the moment. The game has changed and the world is a very different place now.

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

Whilst I won't be booking a short break in Camp Bastion or Syria, I kinda believe if it's your time to die, it will happen wherever you are so I tend to (within reason) carry on regardless with my life...my heart goes out to those who have lost their lives senselessly but I could be knocked down crossing the road tomorrow so I'll keep doing what I do

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By *icolehertsCouple
over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"It wouldn't put me off. Millions of people visit Tunisi.they can't kill me all..

"

NO but they only have to kill one of you ! to piss you off you off a little!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I wouldn't go to a Muslim country presently, - yes, it can happen anywhere but in a Muslim country the risk is much higher imo.

Leaving aside the obvious warzones where current problems have been instigated by the west can you point us to the evidence for this statement?

The irony being that statistically you're far more at risk of being killed driving to the airport. Annual UK road deaths are around 1700 a year with 21,000 serious injuries.

I would have thought the lack of stable government in all North African and Middle East Countries not counting those who commit staggering Human rights abuse was enough.

Plus terrorist attacks leading to massive loss of life in holiday resorts such as Luxor,Sharm, Marrakech and now Tunissia is proof enough for a careful traveller.

Sorry but you are just quoting tabloid like statements without facts. The main reason of course that many of these countries are unstable is because of our intervention in Iraq and Libya. ISIS is the child of war, the creation of more than a decade of invasion, occupation and bombing in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and elsewhere. The war on terror has created more terrorism

The simple assertion that the risk is higher in a Muslim country is presented without any facts.

From April 2013 to March 2014 there were 856 British deaths in Spain, 22 rapes and 18 sexual assaults. In Thailand there were 362 deaths, 11 rapes and 6 sexual assaults of British subjects. In Pakistan (Muslim) there were 21 deaths, 0 rapes and 1 sexual assault on British subjects in the same period despite 393,00 visitors.

Then if you want terrorist incidents there are those like Anders Breivik (Christian) in Norway who killed

77."

Fine, then let people make their own decisions then, rather than the 'your wrong & I'm right' rhetoric!!

.....personally, I find that this sort of opinion usually comes from people whom need their bottoms wiped by a government, & cannot make decisions for themselves!

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Personally, I wouldn't go to a Muslim country presently, - yes, it can happen anywhere but in a Muslim country the risk is much higher imo.

Leaving aside the obvious warzones where current problems have been instigated by the west can you point us to the evidence for this statement?

The irony being that statistically you're far more at risk of being killed driving to the airport. Annual UK road deaths are around 1700 a year with 21,000 serious injuries.

I would have thought the lack of stable government in all North African and Middle East Countries not counting those who commit staggering Human rights abuse was enough.

Plus terrorist attacks leading to massive loss of life in holiday resorts such as Luxor,Sharm, Marrakech and now Tunissia is proof enough for a careful traveller.

Sorry but you are just quoting tabloid like statements without facts. The main reason of course that many of these countries are unstable is because of our intervention in Iraq and Libya. ISIS is the child of war, the creation of more than a decade of invasion, occupation and bombing in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and elsewhere. The war on terror has created more terrorism

The simple assertion that the risk is higher in a Muslim country is presented without any facts.

From April 2013 to March 2014 there were 856 British deaths in Spain, 22 rapes and 18 sexual assaults. In Thailand there were 362 deaths, 11 rapes and 6 sexual assaults of British subjects. In Pakistan (Muslim) there were 21 deaths, 0 rapes and 1 sexual assault on British subjects in the same period despite 393,00 visitors.

Then if you want terrorist incidents there are those like Anders Breivik (Christian) in Norway who killed 77."

Which country did the west bomb before 9/11 then? Yet the islamic terrorists still carried out an attack didn't they. Not long Before 9/11 the west had just stopped Muslims being slaughtered in serbia/Bosnia yet 9/11 still happened.

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By *andS_GlasgowCouple
over a year ago

Giffnock

Totally agree - Why would you increase the risk unless necessary !!

Unfortunately we were about to book Turkey but never confirmed it due to this atrocity !

I have to go to work on Monday and will travel on a "legitimate target" aka The Train - no problem as that is my normal day to day life !

Why would I holiday somewhere I have a "niggling" doubt about ! - we work all year to relax !!!

Tunisia will Recover !

Turkey will get our booking next year !

Life goes on !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We went to Ireland with my grandparents to our holiday home in Mayo every 2nd year since i was born, IRA bombing/murders and British Army/Loyalist murders and an orange man punching me in the face as a child on the ferry didnt put us off, barring my mum being a bit dumb once at a border checkpoint and a wee spotty prick pointing a gun at us.

Despite all that shite, my cousins or my family took our turns going to that holiday home, knowing the shit that was going on in the north.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Totally agree - Why would you increase the risk unless necessary !!

Unfortunately we were about to book Turkey but never confirmed it due to this atrocity !

I have to go to work on Monday and will travel on a "legitimate target" aka The Train - no problem as that is my normal day to day life !

Why would I holiday somewhere I have a "niggling" doubt about ! - we work all year to relax !!!

Tunisia will Recover !

Turkey will get our booking next year !

Life goes on !!!"

Hark, I hear sense!!

......but it will be a while before Tunisia recovers IMHO.

You see, weather people decided for or against traveling in Tunisia, the result was always going to be the same.

Sad but true, - because the diminishment (is that a real word? ) of the Arab Spring government was so damn easy for ISIS or IS or whoever to destroy,- just by ruining the tourist trade, regardless of western casualties

Like I said earlier, - what's the point in going to Arab countries right now?

.......unless you want to make some kind of counter productive sacrificial point, that is!

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

Folk can toss around all the statistics they like, sad fact is muslim terrorists are targeting western tourists in muslim countries. So whether your more likely to get run over by a bus or statistically more likely to have a road accident, like mr quint said " you go in the cage, cage goes in the water, fish is in the water......fair well and adieu to you fair spanish ladies...."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Folk can toss around all the statistics they like, sad fact is muslim terrorists are targeting western tourists in muslim countries. So whether your more likely to get run over by a bus or statistically more likely to have a road accident, like mr quint said " you go in the cage, cage goes in the water, fish is in the water......fair well and adieu to you fair spanish ladies...." "

I just hope that initially, people make the right choices.

I watched on the news last nite a women complaining (she or her friends weren't victims) about how long it was taking for her travel company to fly her home, .......... & I was thinking, - what about the possible escalation of terrorism, what then? - should the travel companies risk their employees (yeah, you know, men & women, everyone's sons & daughters) in insuring that people make it safely home? Or should people be a little more careful where they choose to holiday rather than put these people in the firing line in the first place?

They too have white skin, remember?

Just a thought, & in no way meant to be a provoking one but; Isn't there any responsibility held for the destination by the tourist anymore????

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"It wouldn't put me off. I still travel on the tube despite 7/7, I still travel on planes despite 9/11 and countless other incidents, I don't let the deaths of other cyclists stop me cycling or stop driving on motorways because of accidents. People die everyday doing things that I do

The point is that you can't out think death - when your time's up it's up. And spending your life not doing things because you might die is exactly the sort of fear terrorists want.

Tunisia has never appealed but I'll be back in Morroccco next year and won't give terrorists a second thought"

I went to Marrakech shortly after the bombings in the Jemaa el Fna Square, I walked around it at night soaking up the atmosphere without a second thought of terrorists: I've escaped death a couple of times, I'm not going to waste my life hiding under my duvet.

I used to dream about dying in a car crash so didn't learn to drive. Marc Boland death changed that for me. He had the same dream and didn't learn to drive either. He died in a car crash in the passenger seat: the driver walked away.

Bottom line: a man born to hang will never drown: live your life people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It wouldn't put me off. I still travel on the tube despite 7/7, I still travel on planes despite 9/11 and countless other incidents, I don't let the deaths of other cyclists stop me cycling or stop driving on motorways because of accidents. People die everyday doing things that I do

The point is that you can't out think death - when your time's up it's up. And spending your life not doing things because you might die is exactly the sort of fear terrorists want.

Tunisia has never appealed but I'll be back in Morroccco next year and won't give terrorists a second thought

I went to Marrakech shortly after the bombings in the Jemaa el Fna Square, I walked around it at night soaking up the atmosphere without a second thought of terrorists: I've escaped death a couple of times, I'm not going to waste my life hiding under my duvet.

I used to dream about dying in a car crash so didn't learn to drive. Marc Boland death changed that for me. He had the same dream and didn't learn to drive either. He died in a car crash in the passenger seat: the driver walked away.

Bottom line: a man born to hang will never drown: live your life people.

"

I thought he died on a motorbike in a part of the world where I grew up, - Barnes-ish???

Either way, Marc would never have holidayed in Tunisia today, I'd have liked him to think it was BS as Bdorm........... nah, he'd have died recently in the earthquake in Kathmandu, - THE LEGEND THAT IS!!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I do realise things like this can happen anywhere but as its my son who is going to the same area in Tunisia I'm worried......most mothers would be

"

My daughter, all 5ft 2 and 8 stones of her used to travel for work on her own for work to places like Bangladesh, Russia, Libya, Nigeria, Jordan, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Kenya, Tanzania et al and I hardly slept a wink.

She was in Turkey on business when the flights were grounded. She bumped into a group of soldiers returning to the UK who suggested she travelled with them. She got their names from their passports and gave them to her boss and me. It took them four days to get back and I aged a decade!

We will always worry about our kids even on a night out to the pub.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"It wouldn't put me off. I still travel on the tube despite 7/7, I still travel on planes despite 9/11 and countless other incidents, I don't let the deaths of other cyclists stop me cycling or stop driving on motorways because of accidents. People die everyday doing things that I do

The point is that you can't out think death - when your time's up it's up. And spending your life not doing things because you might die is exactly the sort of fear terrorists want.

Tunisia has never appealed but I'll be back in Morroccco next year and won't give terrorists a second thought

I went to Marrakech shortly after the bombings in the Jemaa el Fna Square, I walked around it at night soaking up the atmosphere without a second thought of terrorists: I've escaped death a couple of times, I'm not going to waste my life hiding under my duvet.

I used to dream about dying in a car crash so didn't learn to drive. Marc Boland death changed that for me. He had the same dream and didn't learn to drive either. He died in a car crash in the passenger seat: the driver walked away.

Bottom line: a man born to hang will never drown: live your life people.

I thought he died on a motorbike in a part of the world where I grew up, - Barnes-ish???

Either way, Marc would never have holidayed in Tunisia today, I'd have liked him to think it was BS as Bdorm........... nah, he'd have died recently in the earthquake in Kathmandu, - THE LEGEND THAT IS!!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do realise things like this can happen anywhere but as its my son who is going to the same area in Tunisia I'm worried......most mothers would be

My daughter, all 5ft 2 and 8 stones of her used to travel for work on her own for work to places like Bangladesh, Russia, Libya, Nigeria, Jordan, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Kenya, Tanzania et al and I hardly slept a wink.

She was in Turkey on business when the flights were grounded. She bumped into a group of soldiers returning to the UK who suggested she travelled with them. She got their names from their passports and gave them to her boss and me. It took them four days to get back and I aged a decade!

We will always worry about our kids even on a night

out to the pub. "

Wow, that must have been scary for you; not the Russian or far eastern stuff (blatent Bangladeshi favoritism), but the fact that she travelled with British soldiers!! That's rÅd, man!!

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Lots of talk about being relaxed and that people should take their chances.

If this thread was about bareback sex I'm sure some of the same people would be less easygoing about risk.

Also things like car accidents etc are risks everywhere so you can't compareterrorism to car deaths.

It's an additional risk ontop of road accidents.

Always be careful when comparing stats.

What you need to know are the risks of terrorism in comparable countries.

Not UK road deaths to terrorist incidents abroad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lots of talk about being relaxed and that people should take their chances.

If this thread was about bareback sex I'm sure some of the same people would be less easygoing about risk.

Also things like car accidents etc are risks everywhere so you can't compareterrorism to car deaths.

It's an additional risk ontop of road accidents.

Always be careful when comparing stats.

What you need to know are the risks of terrorism in comparable countries.

Not UK road deaths to terrorist incidents abroad."

Basically, just use your brain...... & don't blame travel companies, they're just trying to earn your corn, after all!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Folk can toss around all the statistics they like, sad fact is muslim terrorists are targeting western tourists in muslim countries. So whether your more likely to get run over by a bus or statistically more likely to have a road accident, like mr quint said " you go in the cage, cage goes in the water, fish is in the water......fair well and adieu to you fair spanish ladies...."

I just hope that initially, people make the right choices.

I watched on the news last nite a women complaining (she or her friends weren't victims) about how long it was taking for her travel company to fly her home, .......... & I was thinking, - what about the possible escalation of terrorism, what then? - should the travel companies risk their employees (yeah, you know, men & women, everyone's sons & daughters) in insuring that people make it safely home? Or should people be a little more careful where they choose to holiday rather than put these people in the firing line in the first place?

They too have white skin, remember?

Just a thought, & in no way meant to be a provoking one but; Isn't there any responsibility held for the destination by the tourist anymore????"

Holidaymakers i think should research their holiday destination thoroughly before booking but more often than not are swayed by the pictures in a brochure and the costs involved.

Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt & Turkey all represent good value for money but they have all had travel alerts from low-medium against them on the FCO website for ages, it's just people don't bother looking.

Of course if an area is deemed completely unstable airlines & tour operators withdraw their services.

Classic example on here a while ago where a person was saying she wasn't informed by her Tour Op about the call to prayer in Turkey 5 times a day & it was getting annoying....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Folk can toss around all the statistics they like, sad fact is muslim terrorists are targeting western tourists in muslim countries. So whether your more likely to get run over by a bus or statistically more likely to have a road accident, like mr quint said " you go in the cage, cage goes in the water, fish is in the water......fair well and adieu to you fair spanish ladies...."

I just hope that initially, people make the right choices.

I watched on the news last nite a women complaining (she or her friends weren't victims) about how long it was taking for her travel company to fly her home, .......... & I was thinking, - what about the possible escalation of terrorism, what then? - should the travel companies risk their employees (yeah, you know, men & women, everyone's sons & daughters) in insuring that people make it safely home? Or should people be a little more careful where they choose to holiday rather than put these people in the firing line in the first place?

They too have white skin, remember?

Just a thought, & in no way meant to be a provoking one but; Isn't there any responsibility held for the destination by the tourist anymore????

Holidaymakers i think should research their holiday destination thoroughly before booking but more often than not are swayed by the pictures in a brochure and the costs involved.

Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt & Turkey all represent good value for money but they have all had travel alerts from low-medium against them on the FCO website for ages, it's just people don't bother looking.

Of course if an area is deemed completely unstable airlines & tour operators withdraw their services.

Classic example on here a while ago where a person was saying she wasn't informed by her Tour Op about the call

to prayer in Turkey 5 times a day & it was getting annoying.... "

LMAO nuff said!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Folk can toss around all the statistics they like, sad fact is muslim terrorists are targeting western tourists in muslim countries. So whether your more likely to get run over by a bus or statistically more likely to have a road accident, like mr quint said " you go in the cage, cage goes in the water, fish is in the water......fair well and adieu to you fair spanish ladies...."

I just hope that initially, people make the right choices.

I watched on the news last nite a women complaining (she or her friends weren't victims) about how long it was taking for her travel company to fly her home, .......... & I was thinking, - what about the possible escalation of terrorism, what then? - should the travel companies risk their employees (yeah, you know, men & women, everyone's sons & daughters) in insuring that people make it safely home? Or should people be a little more careful where they choose to holiday rather than put these people in the firing line in the first place?

They too have white skin, remember?

Just a thought, & in no way meant to be a provoking one but; Isn't there any responsibility held for the destination by the tourist anymore????

Holidaymakers i think should research their holiday destination thoroughly before booking but more often than not are swayed by the pictures in a brochure and the costs involved.

Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt & Turkey all represent good value for money but they have all had travel alerts from low-medium against them on the FCO website for ages, it's just people don't bother looking.

Of course if an area is deemed completely unstable airlines & tour operators withdraw their services.

Classic example on here a while ago where a person was saying she wasn't informed by her Tour Op about the call to prayer in Turkey 5 times a day & it was getting annoying.... "

oh yeah...I remember that forum classic!

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy


"Folk can toss around all the statistics they like, sad fact is muslim terrorists are targeting western tourists in muslim countries. So whether your more likely to get run over by a bus or statistically more likely to have a road accident, like mr quint said " you go in the cage, cage goes in the water, fish is in the water......fair well and adieu to you fair spanish ladies...."

I just hope that initially, people make the right choices.

I watched on the news last nite a women complaining (she or her friends weren't victims) about how long it was taking for her travel company to fly her home, .......... & I was thinking, - what about the possible escalation of terrorism, what then? - should the travel companies risk their employees (yeah, you know, men & women, everyone's sons & daughters) in insuring that people make it safely home? Or should people be a little more careful where they choose to holiday rather than put these people in the firing line in the first place?

They too have white skin, remember?

Just a thought, & in no way meant to be a provoking one but; Isn't there any responsibility held for the destination by the tourist anymore????

Holidaymakers i think should research their holiday destination thoroughly before booking but more often than not are swayed by the pictures in a brochure and the costs involved.

Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt & Turkey all represent good value for money but they have all had travel alerts from low-medium against them on the FCO website for ages, it's just people don't bother looking.

Of course if an area is deemed completely unstable airlines & tour operators withdraw their services.

Classic example on here a while ago where a person was saying she wasn't informed by her Tour Op about the call

to prayer in Turkey 5 times a day & it was getting annoying....

LMAO nuff said! "

Yep, most of the general public are just ignorant to it all. They need be more aware of what's going on in the world.

I know quite a few people who never read or watch any news. At all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Read this online- some papers were reporting local people just standing around watching and doing nothing.

People who were there have said that the locals were actually making a human shield to move the gunman away from the tourists.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"

Read this online- some papers were reporting local people just standing around watching and doing nothing.

People who were there have said that the locals were actually making a human shield to move the gunman away from the tourists.

"

I'm guessing you didn't mean to have the thumbs up and smiley face

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Read this online- some papers were reporting local people just standing around watching and doing nothing.

People who were there have said that the locals were actually making a human shield to move the gunman away from the tourists.

"

There is also reports of a builder who was on a roof and throwing roof tiles down on the guunman.

And there were huge demonstrations in Tunisia against IS last night.

Meanwhile The Star are carrying a news article quoting an unnamed government security expert as saying that there are terrorists in all North African countries and you;d have to be an idiot to travel there which is based on nothing but rhetoric

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Read this online- some papers were reporting local people just standing around watching and doing nothing.

People who were there have said that the locals were actually making a human shield to move the gunman away from the tourists.

I'm guessing you didn't mean to have the thumbs up and smiley face"

Of course it was intentional. Bloody massive thumbs up to the locals being a human shield and trying to protect the tourists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Read this online- some papers were reporting local people just standing around watching and doing nothing.

People who were there have said that the locals were actually making a human shield to move the gunman away from the tourists.

There is also reports of a builder who was on a roof and throwing roof tiles down on the guunman.

And there were huge demonstrations in Tunisia against IS last night.

Meanwhile The Star are carrying a news article quoting an unnamed government security expert as saying that there are terrorists in all North African countries and you;d have to be an idiot to travel there which is based on nothing but rhetoric"

There's terrorists all over the world. The police agencies stop loads of terrorist attempts all the time, they just don't make it public.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"

Read this online- some papers were reporting local people just standing around watching and doing nothing.

People who were there have said that the locals were actually making a human shield to move the gunman away from the tourists.

I'm guessing you didn't mean to have the thumbs up and smiley face

Of course it was intentional. Bloody massive thumbs up to the locals being a human shield and trying to protect the tourists. "

Ah sorry. I read it as though the locals were trying to help the gunman get away from the tourists

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

Egypt is also an high risk area but still 1000's flock there, ISIS know they can effect the tourist trade by a few attacks in major holiday destinations and fear does the rest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was going in September but have now cancelled it ...

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"

Read this online- some papers were reporting local people just standing around watching and doing nothing.

People who were there have said that the locals were actually making a human shield to move the gunman away from the tourists.

There is also reports of a builder who was on a roof and throwing roof tiles down on the guunman.

And there were huge demonstrations in Tunisia against IS last night.

Meanwhile The Star are carrying a news article quoting an unnamed government security expert as saying that there are terrorists in all North African countries and you;d have to be an idiot to travel there which is based on nothing but rhetoric"

Nothing but rhetoric?

Morocco. Over 40 dead in Casablanca bombings a few years ago, and earlier this year terror cells were "broken up across the country"

Algeria. The Amenas attack in 2013 seven hostages dead.

Tunisia. Enough said.

Libya. Half of the country controlled by various terrorist groups including ISIS who beheaded over 20 Christians on a beach there recently.

Egypt. 331 terrorist attacks in the first 3 months of this year against 352 for the whole of 2014.

And you call that Rhetoric.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy


"

Read this online- some papers were reporting local people just standing around watching and doing nothing.

People who were there have said that the locals were actually making a human shield to move the gunman away from the tourists.

There is also reports of a builder who was on a roof and throwing roof tiles down on the guunman.

And there were huge demonstrations in Tunisia against IS last night.

Meanwhile The Star are carrying a news article quoting an unnamed government security expert as saying that there are terrorists in all North African countries and you;d have to be an idiot to travel there which is based on nothing but rhetoric

Nothing but rhetoric?

Morocco. Over 40 dead in Casablanca bombings a few years ago, and earlier this year terror cells were "broken up across the country"

Algeria. The Amenas attack in 2013 seven hostages dead.

Tunisia. Enough said.

Libya. Half of the country controlled by various terrorist groups including ISIS who beheaded over 20 Christians on a beach there recently.

Egypt. 331 terrorist attacks in the first 3 months of this year against 352 for the whole of 2014.

And you call that Rhetoric.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One things for sure, there will be some great deals there for the foreseeable future.

We wouldn't have gone to any of the North Africa, Middle East countries before this latest atrocity and certainly won't be going anytime soon!

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

It has happened,the next attack will probably be somewhere else,so Tunisia is probably as safe as anywhere we live in a dangerous world infortunatly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It has happened,the next attack will probably be somewhere else,so Tunisia is probably as safe as anywhere we live in a dangerous world unfortunatly."
I think your right saying this .. Its no telling where next . And that's a worry for the world now . Something has to be done .

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By *aro7Man
over a year ago

wickford

Don't really go abroad anymore, haven't for some time, would certainly never go to the Middle East or Africa even if I was travelling abroad still,,,,,,,we have a wonderful country with some truly stunning places,,,,,,,great holidays can be had here,,,,,,,,I thouroughly recommend,,,,,,,,

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