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"Is it just the fact I am the Mother of teenagers or does anyone else think that maybe 18-20 year olds shouldn't be on a site like this ? " Maybe you'll agree they're also not old enough to pay their taxes and vote too? | |||
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"Is it just the fact I am the Mother of teenagers or does anyone else think that maybe 18-20 year olds shouldn't be on a site like this ? " Not for a moment, the law deems them adults capable of making their own decisions, and allowing them that responsibility is a healthy, natural practice in order to help them mature into well integrated members of society. | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ?" Wouldn't bother me at all. If my kids want sex then they can do that. If something like this was around when i was 17 i would've been on it tbh. | |||
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"My eldest is 22 I'm not saying they shouldn't be on here but I.do wonder why they are ..... I didn't even know about sites like this when I was younger " There were no sites like this when we were that age | |||
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"My eldest is 22 I'm not saying they shouldn't be on here but I.do wonder why they are ..... I didn't even know about sites like this when I was younger " Sites like this didn't exist when I was their age either (well, if there were any then they weren't as accessible as this), yet I'd certainly have used this place when I was in my late teens had it been viable. | |||
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"My eldest is 22 I'm not saying they shouldn't be on here but I.do wonder why they are ..... I didn't even know about sites like this when I was younger " Did the Internet exist back then? | |||
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"No I'm not saying that .. Just think that at that age they should be going out having fun and meeting people their own age .. Not "Daddy's" as some are looking for " We're actually doing an interview next week about younger people who swing, when you say "going out have fun" Do you me going out and getting pissed out of our minds like most people in their early 20s? We'd much rather be at a swingers club where we can enjoy ourselves in a care free and liberated environment. We know plenty of younger swingers 19-28 age group but we have also had some amazing nights with people who are above that age bracket - why should age matter as long as everyone is enjoying themselves. | |||
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"When I was young I was a 'wild child', slept around - whatever you want to call it! I often put myself in very dangerous situations by getting hellishly d*unk and having occasional one-night-stands! " Now why doesn't that surprise me? | |||
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"I don't think they shouldn't be on here I do however think they should stop mailing me " Sorry | |||
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"My eldest is 22 I'm not saying they shouldn't be on here but I.do wonder why they are ..... I didn't even know about sites like this when I was younger Did the Internet exist back then?" Wasn't it just dodgy contact mags and iffy Polaroid back then? I was doing what any healthy teen lad should have been doing... out in the fresh air scouring hedgerows for discarded Fiesta / Knaves / Escorts etc | |||
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"Well everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone is entitled to do as they please. Thanks for all the comments. I just hope they all stay safe and don't put themselves at risk x" None of us are safe, not even grown men | |||
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"Exactly ... I just worry they don't always know what they are getting into " This is a good point. There are plenty of people who would happily take advantage of someone and at 18 while you're legally an adult you still have a lot of growing up to do. | |||
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"Some 'very young' people will this it's wrong 'very old' people are still having sex. Certainly not my opinion but just offering an alternative though!" Quite right however the post was from a mothers point of view | |||
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"Is it just the fact I am the Mother of teenagers or does anyone else think that maybe 18-20 year olds shouldn't be on a site like this ? " They're adults, and 16 is the age of consent in this country so it could be worse. | |||
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"My eldest is 22 I'm not saying they shouldn't be on here but I.do wonder why they are ..... I didn't even know about sites like this when I was younger " back then it was contact mags ect,as mobile phones only had txt then | |||
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"When I was young I was a 'wild child', slept around - whatever you want to call it! I often put myself in very dangerous situations by getting hellishly d*unk and having occasional one-night-stands! Now why doesn't that surprise me? " Erm - I don't know! Why doesn't it surprise you brain?? | |||
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"Some 'very young' people will this it's wrong 'very old' people are still having sex. Certainly not my opinion but just offering an alternative though!" I'd imagine your inbox is packed like a tin of sardines. People are attracted to youth*, and youth wants to be valued by older generations, it's nature. *and yes of course, I refer to youth within legal reasons. | |||
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"My eldest is 22 I'm not saying they shouldn't be on here but I.do wonder why they are ..... I didn't even know about sites like this when I was younger back then it was contact mags ect,as mobile phones only had txt then " and it was soooo sloooowwww get mag look at local get polaroids send in post wait for ages then if lucky get a reply with a phone number then ring with code word then meet in pub then- then -?? | |||
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"I don't think they shouldn't be on here I do however think they should stop mailing me " Haha this! I see them as kids - even though by law they are adults - but if the Internet was around when I was their age with sites like this- I would have been here with bells on | |||
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"An 18 year old isn't a kid." In my book it is. Legally they maybe classed as an adult but at 18 you don't have the experience to make life decisions. In this environment immaturity could be seen as vulnerability? | |||
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"An 18 year old isn't a kid.In my book it is." Then don't meet 18 year olds | |||
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"I wished i'd have know about sites like this at that age , would have made life so much exciting " Yes and a lot less frustrating | |||
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"An 18 year old isn't a kid.In my book it is. Then don't meet 18 year olds " I feel like there's something off with mature adults wanting to meet 18 / 20 year olds! I'm not a mother but I would be uoset if my teenage daughter was fucking old men from the Internet! | |||
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"An 18 year old isn't a kid.In my book it is. Then don't meet 18 year olds I feel like there's something off with mature adults wanting to meet 18 / 20 year olds! I'm not a mother but I would be uoset if my teenage daughter was fucking old men from the Internet! " I would not dream of meeting an 18 year old. Just not my thing. | |||
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"If it was my doughter no if it was my son ye fill ya boots oh err he already is " interesting outlook | |||
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"I'm not a mum, but I would much rather my 18-22 year old son or daughter be on here then running around d*unk on a weekend fucking someone equally as d*unk and vulnerable. " But that's the fun part of being young!! We all remember that taking risks, acting irresponsible and being completely crazy was one of the best parts of our youth! This site would have been far too formal and organised for me if there was such a thing as the Internet when i was young!! I've only just recovered from the shock of Channel 4!!!! I mean, 4 channels!!!!!! | |||
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"An 18 year old isn't a kid.In my book it is. Legally they maybe classed as an adult but at 18 you don't have the experience to make life decisions. In this environment immaturity could be seen as vulnerability?" At 18 people have been able to duck for over 2 years (and probably be doing it longer) I'm 25 but I'm immature hardly vulnerable though. | |||
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"I'm not a mum, but I would much rather my 18-22 year old son or daughter be on here then running around d*unk on a weekend fucking someone equally as d*unk and vulnerable. But that's the fun part of being young!! We all remember that taking risks, acting irresponsible and being completely crazy was one of the best parts of our youth! This site would have been far too formal and organised for me if there was such a thing as the Internet when i was young!! I've only just recovered from the shock of Channel 4!!!! I mean, 4 channels!!!!!! " The whole issue of young and old having sex is just not in my zone. I maybe an old fuddy duddy but young people should be out with young people doing the daft things young people do. Sat in front of a screen on a recreational sex site is just........wrong! | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ?" I certainly wouldn't approve if my MUM was on here! | |||
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"Nice soft 18 year old yes please. " Posts like this are what I mean. This is plain wrong! | |||
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"in the old days men couldn't type " Thats because in the old days they had their secretaries to do it for them | |||
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"Starting to wish i was young again, going to the pub was far more fun when 17, now i've got my first grey hairs appearing So long as their consenting adults they can do whatever the hell they like, they're not hurting anyone." But someone could be hurting them? | |||
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"My eldest is 22 I'm not saying they shouldn't be on here but I.do wonder why they are ..... I didn't even know about sites like this when I was younger There were no sites like this when we were that age " There were no computers when I was their age. I also agree with you that they should stop contacting me too.. what are they thinking. I guess really they are just experimenting , just a different world now. | |||
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"Nice soft 18 year old yes please. Posts like this are what I mean. This is plain wrong!" Must admit that did come across as a bit pervy! | |||
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"Starting to wish i was young again, going to the pub was far more fun when 17, now i've got my first grey hairs appearing So long as their consenting adults they can do whatever the hell they like, they're not hurting anyone.But someone could be hurting them?" Guys are just as capable of hurting a young girl as they are on someone more mature. | |||
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"Nice soft 18 year old yes please. Posts like this are what I mean. This is plain wrong! Must admit that did come across as a bit pervy! " A bit? Jesus on a bike that was a weird post and I mean weird! | |||
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"Maybe I just think kids aren't allowed to be kids anymore .. Peer pressure and social networks .. They think they should be doing more than they should " I was a teenager in the seventies and there were very few of us who were still kids at 18. We were at university, college or working and if we got the chance having sex. We were expected to behave like adults in all respects then, why not now? I think a certain emotional maturity is needed to swing with a partner but to have casual sex as a single person is a bit different in my opinion and that's what most teens on here will be after I guess.....whether the 18 year old men will find it is another matter | |||
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"Starting to wish i was young again, going to the pub was far more fun when 17, now i've got my first grey hairs appearing So long as their consenting adults they can do whatever the hell they like, they're not hurting anyone.But someone could be hurting them? Guys are just as capable of hurting a young girl as they are on someone more mature." I think you have summed it up..................a young girl or who has neither the maturity or life experiences to be here | |||
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"Nice soft 18 year old yes please. Posts like this are what I mean. This is plain wrong! Must admit that did come across as a bit pervy! A bit? Jesus on a bike that was a weird post and I mean weird!" Not as weird as Jesus on a bike!! | |||
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"Nice soft 18 year old yes please. Posts like this are what I mean. This is plain wrong! Must admit that did come across as a bit pervy! A bit? Jesus on a bike that was a weird post and I mean weird! Not as weird as Jesus on a bike!! " Jesus was a cyclist? | |||
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"My eldest is 22 I'm not saying they shouldn't be on here but I.do wonder why they are ..... I didn't even know about sites like this when I was younger " Not sure they had Internet when I was lol! | |||
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"Nice soft 18 year old yes please. Posts like this are what I mean. This is plain wrong! Must admit that did come across as a bit pervy! A bit? Jesus on a bike that was a weird post and I mean weird! Not as weird as Jesus on a bike!! Jesus was a cyclist?" You ever tried doing a wheelie on a donkey?? | |||
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"My eldest is 22 I'm not saying they shouldn't be on here but I.do wonder why they are ..... I didn't even know about sites like this when I was younger There were no sites like this when we were that age " Wasn't even Internet when we were that age. | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ?" Let's flip the coin then, im only playing devils advocate here. If the kids(I use the term meaning old enough) found the parents on here would they approve?? | |||
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"I don't think they shouldn't be on here I do however think they should stop mailing me " You made me lol | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ?" Son - Shrug of the shoulders Daughter - Most definitely not | |||
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"Is it just the fact I am the Mother of teenagers or does anyone else think that maybe 18-20 year olds shouldn't be on a site like this ? " 18 to 20 year olds have sex.. this is another resource for those of that age group who want to use it, in some ways its probably a bit safer than a casual one night stand after an evening in a club.. | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ? Son - Shrug of the shoulders Daughter - Most definitely not" why? | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ? Son - Shrug of the shoulders Daughter - Most definitely not why?" Because I don't like the thought of my daughters being fucked by all and sundry. I'd prefer they were in a loving, stable relationship. I'd prefer they weren't sex addicts, and I'd prefer they didn't feel the need to invite others into their sex lives. My sons? Well boys will be boys with willing females until they find someone they want to settle down with. | |||
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"Is it just the fact I am the Mother of teenagers or does anyone else think that maybe 18-20 year olds shouldn't be on a site like this ? " I think that maybe your feelings may be coloured by your children. However I would say that there are some 18/20 year olds as there are some 40/50/60 year olds who should not be on here. I believe suitability for this life is all to do with maturity and how we think rather than our physical age... | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ? Son - Shrug of the shoulders Daughter - Most definitely not why? Because I don't like the thought of my daughters being fucked by all and sundry. I'd prefer they were in a loving, stable relationship. I'd prefer they weren't sex addicts, and I'd prefer they didn't feel the need to invite others into their sex lives. My sons? Well boys will be boys with willing females until they find someone they want to settle down with." It's difficult to comprehend that such out and out sexism, misogyny and pro vanilla statements are nothing more than a joke to you. So i'll pretend i have no sense of humour and that I don't get the joke. | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ? Son - Shrug of the shoulders Daughter - Most definitely not why? Because I don't like the thought of my daughters being fucked by all and sundry. I'd prefer they were in a loving, stable relationship. I'd prefer they weren't sex addicts, and I'd prefer they didn't feel the need to invite others into their sex lives. My sons? Well boys will be boys with willing females until they find someone they want to settle down with." Honestly..? | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men." Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men." What do you mean by goal oriented? | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol " You are just one weird guy! | |||
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"Nice soft 18 year old yes please. " Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!! | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!" lol sais you that are unlos | |||
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"Is a nightclub more or less dangerous than Fabswingers, for an 18 year old?" About equal I'd say from what our daughter says. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented?" They have goals set which are SMART objectives. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos " He sent me a weird message before leaving - I think he had a difficult time comprehending anyone with a different viewpoint to his. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos " Who was it? | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos He sent me a weird message before leaving - I think he had a difficult time comprehending anyone with a different viewpoint to his. " That doesn't stop most people here | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented? They have goals set which are SMART objectives." Well I do treat fab like my annual appraisal | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos He sent me a weird message before leaving - I think he had a difficult time comprehending anyone with a different viewpoint to his. " lol yes and he thinks he is always right, yeah wonder who it was. lol at weird msg. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos He sent me a weird message before leaving - I think he had a difficult time comprehending anyone with a different viewpoint to his. lol yes and he thinks he is always right, yeah wonder who it was. lol at weird msg." I've never seen him before on here. He can't keep up with modern technology so left. | |||
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"18 is old enough to make an informed decision and take responsibility. Sounds more like the OPs hangup to me" Its their choice to be on here like it is mine but I do think they are too young and yes im a mum. I made a informed decision to meet a man socially in the age group im looking for. Turned out to be a big mistake on my part and Im 51. So a 18 year old could make the same mistake as me | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos He sent me a weird message before leaving - I think he had a difficult time comprehending anyone with a different viewpoint to his. lol yes and he thinks he is always right, yeah wonder who it was. lol at weird msg. I've never seen him before on here. He can't keep up with modern technology so left. " Yes same never seen him either, yeah or that or his wife cought him lol | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented?" As in once they've decided who they want they will pursue it much more vigorously than men will. They'll tend to spread stories about each other/past veries and generally be more manipulative than the men will. If be much less surprised by a woman manipulating a young person here than a man which most seem to be focusing upon. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos " Who was he. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos He sent me a weird message before leaving - I think he had a difficult time comprehending anyone with a different viewpoint to his. lol yes and he thinks he is always right, yeah wonder who it was. lol at weird msg. I've never seen him before on here. He can't keep up with modern technology so left. Yes same never seen him either, yeah or that or his wife cought him lol " He said young people should be out with young people and not on computers so i reckon he also felt old people shouldn't be on computers coz idk why but he said it. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos Who was he." A 57yo who had been on the site 4 weeks | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos Who was he. A 57yo who had been on the site 4 weeks" The user name would have been more help :p | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented? As in once they've decided who they want they will pursue it much more vigorously than men will. They'll tend to spread stories about each other/past veries and generally be more manipulative than the men will. If be much less surprised by a woman manipulating a young person here than a man which most seem to be focusing upon." Hmm. I tend to agree up until the last bit. I'd say women may be more likely to be manipulative to the person they want to meet rather than random other people. And I think on balance there are more men on site who would want to meet a very young woman than women who want to meet very young men (adjusting for overall numbers of each gender) so I'm not sure the very young are more at risk from manipulation by women. | |||
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"No 18-20 far too young to be on a site as this. I think there should be a minimum age to be allowed on. Subjective I know " There is a minimum age 18. | |||
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"No 18-20 far too young to be on a site as this. I think there should be a minimum age to be allowed on. Subjective I know " Why ? | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men.Yes cos for men its any hole is a goal lol You are just one weird guy!lol sais you that are unlos Who was he. A 57yo who had been on the site 4 weeks The user name would have been more help :p" Something like paradiddle or parapiddle or parafiddle... It had p in it anyway | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented? As in once they've decided who they want they will pursue it much more vigorously than men will. They'll tend to spread stories about each other/past veries and generally be more manipulative than the men will. If be much less surprised by a woman manipulating a young person here than a man which most seem to be focusing upon. Hmm. I tend to agree up until the last bit. I'd say women may be more likely to be manipulative to the person they want to meet rather than random other people. And I think on balance there are more men on site who would want to meet a very young woman than women who want to meet very young men (adjusting for overall numbers of each gender) so I'm not sure the very young are more at risk from manipulation by women. " Given that most women/couples here have women as their main preference I find it odd you go straight to Men want to meet young women. Women wouldn't want to meet young men. What about the women wanting to meet young women. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented? As in once they've decided who they want they will pursue it much more vigorously than men will. They'll tend to spread stories about each other/past veries and generally be more manipulative than the men will. If be much less surprised by a woman manipulating a young person here than a man which most seem to be focusing upon. Hmm. I tend to agree up until the last bit. I'd say women may be more likely to be manipulative to the person they want to meet rather than random other people. And I think on balance there are more men on site who would want to meet a very young woman than women who want to meet very young men (adjusting for overall numbers of each gender) so I'm not sure the very young are more at risk from manipulation by women. Given that most women/couples here have women as their main preference I find it odd you go straight to Men want to meet young women. Women wouldn't want to meet young men. What about the women wanting to meet young women." Do most women have women as their main preference? Remember there are a lot of women who may be looking for men but without having that on their profile, because they prefer not to get loads of messages. Or maybe I just gravitated towards that because I'm straight so it's how my mind tends to go. Arguably if women are looking for young women and women are more manipulative, those young women could be equally manipulative then. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented? As in once they've decided who they want they will pursue it much more vigorously than men will. They'll tend to spread stories about each other/past veries and generally be more manipulative than the men will. If be much less surprised by a woman manipulating a young person here than a man which most seem to be focusing upon. Hmm. I tend to agree up until the last bit. I'd say women may be more likely to be manipulative to the person they want to meet rather than random other people. And I think on balance there are more men on site who would want to meet a very young woman than women who want to meet very young men (adjusting for overall numbers of each gender) so I'm not sure the very young are more at risk from manipulation by women. " I've fucked an 18 yr old this week. He approached me, seemed nice enough so though yeah i'll go for it. Didn't need to manipulate anything coz he wanted me and approached me. I have had a fair amount of guys try and manipulate me on here (probably because men approach me rather than women), so i do feel men are more likely to manipulate. They just try and guilt trip me or talk me into things i'm not into, whereas younger guys won't do that they'll accept that if i don't like something then we're not doing it. I do feel there is still some misogyny when it comes to some older guys and that women are there for their pleasure and not their own, although this could apply to any age group i have found on here (and in life overall) older guys tend to be manipulative but i get that they weren't brought up to womens equals. | |||
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"I remember during the war, you didn't have to worry about all these inventions, if you liked someone you baked cookies with your rations and if you wanted to make love you got married. Oh, the good ol' days!" Yes. And if you ate all the cakes then wanted a shag it was okay to kiss their ankle as long as you kept one foot in the fireplace. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented? As in once they've decided who they want they will pursue it much more vigorously than men will. They'll tend to spread stories about each other/past veries and generally be more manipulative than the men will. If be much less surprised by a woman manipulating a young person here than a man which most seem to be focusing upon. Hmm. I tend to agree up until the last bit. I'd say women may be more likely to be manipulative to the person they want to meet rather than random other people. And I think on balance there are more men on site who would want to meet a very young woman than women who want to meet very young men (adjusting for overall numbers of each gender) so I'm not sure the very young are more at risk from manipulation by women. I've fucked an 18 yr old this week. He approached me, seemed nice enough so though yeah i'll go for it. Didn't need to manipulate anything coz he wanted me and approached me. I have had a fair amount of guys try and manipulate me on here (probably because men approach me rather than women), so i do feel men are more likely to manipulate. They just try and guilt trip me or talk me into things i'm not into, whereas younger guys won't do that they'll accept that if i don't like something then we're not doing it. I do feel there is still some misogyny when it comes to some older guys and that women are there for their pleasure and not their own, although this could apply to any age group i have found on here (and in life overall) older guys tend to be manipulative but i get that they weren't brought up to womens equals. " For the first paragraph random but on. For the second obviously I see the other side of it as I'm mainly approached by women not men. I've never had men message me about my veries to slate them or about forum members but I have from women. | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented? As in once they've decided who they want they will pursue it much more vigorously than men will. They'll tend to spread stories about each other/past veries and generally be more manipulative than the men will. If be much less surprised by a woman manipulating a young person here than a man which most seem to be focusing upon. Hmm. I tend to agree up until the last bit. I'd say women may be more likely to be manipulative to the person they want to meet rather than random other people. And I think on balance there are more men on site who would want to meet a very young woman than women who want to meet very young men (adjusting for overall numbers of each gender) so I'm not sure the very young are more at risk from manipulation by women. Given that most women/couples here have women as their main preference I find it odd you go straight to Men want to meet young women. Women wouldn't want to meet young men. What about the women wanting to meet young women. Do most women have women as their main preference? Remember there are a lot of women who may be looking for men but without having that on their profile, because they prefer not to get loads of messages. Or maybe I just gravitated towards that because I'm straight so it's how my mind tends to go. Arguably if women are looking for young women and women are more manipulative, those young women could be equally manipulative then. " Possibly I'm just basing this on my personal experience here. Where it's generally been women who use less than honest tactics than the men who message me. Best one was a few days ago I got called a peado by a woman because of my veries. | |||
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"For the first paragraph random but on. For the second obviously I see the other side of it as I'm mainly approached by women not men. I've never had men message me about my veries to slate them or about forum members but I have from women." Yeah i think out perspectives are from opposite genders. If anyone says anything about my veri i will tell them to fuck off. Even at my age though men try and manipulate me. They're just selfish overall and i doubt sex would be good with someone like that. | |||
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"For the first paragraph random but on. For the second obviously I see the other side of it as I'm mainly approached by women not men. I've never had men message me about my veries to slate them or about forum members but I have from women. Yeah i think out perspectives are from opposite genders. If anyone says anything about my veri i will tell them to fuck off. Even at my age though men try and manipulate me. They're just selfish overall and i doubt sex would be good with someone like that." Yeah same reason I ignore those women I imagine if you manipulate to gain see you're gonna be shit at sex | |||
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"I notice the women on here seem to be much more predatory/goal oriented than the men. What do you mean by goal oriented? As in once they've decided who they want they will pursue it much more vigorously than men will. They'll tend to spread stories about each other/past veries and generally be more manipulative than the men will. If be much less surprised by a woman manipulating a young person here than a man which most seem to be focusing upon. Hmm. I tend to agree up until the last bit. I'd say women may be more likely to be manipulative to the person they want to meet rather than random other people. And I think on balance there are more men on site who would want to meet a very young woman than women who want to meet very young men (adjusting for overall numbers of each gender) so I'm not sure the very young are more at risk from manipulation by women. " Can't agree with using the word manipulation as an awful lot of young lads/guys want to meet older women to tick a box, some say they prefer older women so if I didn't have filters on, my inbox would be inundated with messages certainly not manipulated by me | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ? Son - Shrug of the shoulders Daughter - Most definitely not why? Because I don't like the thought of my daughters being fucked by all and sundry. I'd prefer they were in a loving, stable relationship. I'd prefer they weren't sex addicts, and I'd prefer they didn't feel the need to invite others into their sex lives. My sons? Well boys will be boys with willing females until they find someone they want to settle down with. It's difficult to comprehend that such out and out sexism, misogyny and pro vanilla statements are nothing more than a joke to you. So i'll pretend i have no sense of humour and that I don't get the joke. " I can assure you I am not joking. If you think being sexist is recognising, and acknowledging, the damaging psychological effect this kind of activity can have on a young female then yes, go ahead and call me sexist. Misogynist? Me? Far from it. Though I tend to find women who throw that accusation about usually have a touch of the misandrist about them. And finally, why do some folk on here use the term "vanilla" in such a pejorative way when harping on so much about choices, preferences and having respect towards those choices and preferences? | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ?" But would they approve of you on here? It's freedom of choice | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ? Son - Shrug of the shoulders Daughter - Most definitely not why? Because I don't like the thought of my daughters being fucked by all and sundry. I'd prefer they were in a loving, stable relationship. I'd prefer they weren't sex addicts, and I'd prefer they didn't feel the need to invite others into their sex lives. My sons? Well boys will be boys with willing females until they find someone they want to settle down with." Every woman on here is someones daughter... yet you are happy to meet them? Why would being on a swingers site make them a sex addict? I sense an undertone of guys with a high sex drive getting a high five and a pat on the shoulder, and women being scorned for having the same drives. Personally, fab would have been safer for me as a young adult to explore my sexuality and find like minded souls - without adding alcohol and nightclubs. | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ?" Why would I judge them. I'm on here and I am not ashamed. It's a.lifestyle choice for one and experimental for others. To be honest I would rather my daughter's went to a swing club than a night club if I'm honest. | |||
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"Maybe I just think kids aren't allowed to be kids anymore .. Peer pressure and social networks .. They think they should be doing more than they should " Worst one is when you see 21 year olds already divorced with three kids and it's getting more and more common. They're going to wake up at 40 having never been to college or had a job when the last kid leaves home and think "shit, where did my life go" | |||
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"I have a 15 year old son and I cringe when I get messages for 18 or 19 year olds but they have every right to be here. It's in some ways maybe safer to explore in this environment that pulling a random on a night out x" this is my thinking too. I won't meet them as I have children their age but they have every right to be here.. | |||
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"Funny how we worry about "damaging" them here, but we don't mind sending them off to die in wars we shouldn't even be involved in. " I can't see how anyone on here can be appalled that family members are on here...If your on here how on earth can you judge others from being on here x | |||
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"Funny how we worry about "damaging" them here, but we don't mind sending them off to die in wars we shouldn't even be involved in. " | |||
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"Exactly ... I just worry they don't always know what they are getting into This is a good point. There are plenty of people who would happily take advantage of someone and at 18 while you're legally an adult you still have a lot of growing up to do. " At 18 I was more sexually mature (as in, I knew what I wanted, had more knowledge about dangers of sleeping around, and possibly had had more experience) than many people I see on kink sites and sites like this who are middle aged. Many people who are middle aged come out of broken-down long-term relationships. They've never experimented sexually before they were in a relationship. They've lived relatively sheltered lives. They've decided they want to start exploring... and... they're naive. So the question is, how do you tell the difference? And *should* you make assumptions based on peoples age? | |||
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"For the first paragraph random but on. For the second obviously I see the other side of it as I'm mainly approached by women not men. I've never had men message me about my veries to slate them or about forum members but I have from women. Yeah i think out perspectives are from opposite genders. If anyone says anything about my veri i will tell them to fuck off. Even at my age though men try and manipulate me. They're just selfish overall and i doubt sex would be good with someone like that. Yeah same reason I ignore those women I imagine if you manipulate to gain see you're gonna be shit at sex" I'm probably going over the top here but sometimes i just find it creepy...like why can't they just get sex and not have to manipulate people to get it? | |||
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"Exactly ... I just worry they don't always know what they are getting into This is a good point. There are plenty of people who would happily take advantage of someone and at 18 while you're legally an adult you still have a lot of growing up to do. At 18 I was more sexually mature (as in, I knew what I wanted, had more knowledge about dangers of sleeping around, and possibly had had more experience) than many people I see on kink sites and sites like this who are middle aged. Many people who are middle aged come out of broken-down long-term relationships. They've never experimented sexually before they were in a relationship. They've lived relatively sheltered lives. They've decided they want to start exploring... and... they're naive. So the question is, how do you tell the difference? And *should* you make assumptions based on peoples age?" But you are making the same "assumption" about people that are middle aged! I would assume that people who are middle aged would have had more life experience but it's down to the individual It makes me laugh that people say they don't judge I can honestly say I have never met anyone that doesn't! Maybe they don't make their judgements known on a public forum - but it's human nature to do so! | |||
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" But you are making the same "assumption" about people that are middle aged! I would assume that people who are middle aged would have had more life experience but it's down to the individual It makes me laugh that people say they don't judge I can honestly say I have never met anyone that doesn't! " I was writing that with a couple of people that I know in my head. Primarily friends of my parents who had left marriages (which they'd been in since they were *very* young) and found themselves in rather hot water when they ventured out into the world of sex for the first time alone. Also some older men I met on kink sites who had been in similar personal situations. I actually felt like I might be taking advantage of them because they were extraordinarily naieve. So my point is - don't judge that a young person might not know what they are getting themselves into. Because that could equally apply to an older person. | |||
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"But if you found your son/daughter was on a site like this would you approve ?" My daughter and her hubby is on here they are adults and free to live their own lives part of being a parent might not like some things but thats life. | |||
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"When I was 16 I was chatting to people on Internet and meeting... Had a 12 month relationship with one guy I met online then after that I met quite a lot of people for (safe, entirely consensual) sex. If there'd been or if I'd known about a site like this I'd have been on it for sure. " Same here. I think I met my first guy off the net for sex at about the same age. Meeting guys on the internet for sex is great. And a site like this enables you to check verifications and at least allows you to see what some other people think about the person first - if you need to. I'd suggest that's marginally safer than many ways of finding casual sex. | |||
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