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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Have had an email from a well known motoring organisation promoting these. What are your thoughts? Good idea or not?

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By *rank EinsteinMan
over a year ago

Burton upon stather

A very good idea, they should be mandatory in all cars as well as rear view ones too.

With the way it's going I don't think it's hard to imagine a future where all motor vehicles have front and rear facing cameras installed along with a tracking device.

Imagine the help it would be with criminal investigations.

We know the girl was taken around 12:30 so bring up all cameras from vehicles in the area between 11:00 to 14:00

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Where would YouTube be without Russian dashboard cams?

C...

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

I bought one but it broke - should've spent more.

I also spent £3 on a sticker for the rear window saying "camera on board".

There's no camera but the number of fucktards in audis and bmw's that now tailgate me has reduced considerably.

A

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mandatory? No thanks. I value my privacy. Submit yours if you like, I'll keep mine.

It would make for more dogging footage though.

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By *rank EinsteinMan
over a year ago

Burton upon stather


"Where would YouTube be without Russian dashboard cams?

C..."

They're fucking crazy

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I can see the benefits highlighted by Cheddars but have to say not keen on having my privacy invaded. I suppose they would only monitor them if they needed to but my fear is not the gathering of information per-se but the fact you can't trust those who hold to act with probity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

great idea get front and rear

anything that stops them crash for cash bastards

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By *rank EinsteinMan
over a year ago

Burton upon stather


"I can see the benefits highlighted by Cheddars but have to say not keen on having my privacy invaded. I suppose they would only monitor them if they needed to but my fear is not the gathering of information per-se but the fact you can't trust those who hold to act with probity.

"

Your privacy is already invaded.

Mobile devices show where you are.

Your Facebook information is sold.

New phones request access to your location and camera to use apps.

Think about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can see the benefits highlighted by Cheddars but have to say not keen on having my privacy invaded. I suppose they would only monitor them if they needed to but my fear is not the gathering of information per-se but the fact you can't trust those who hold to act with probity.

Your privacy is already invaded.

Mobile devices show where you are.

Your Facebook information is sold.

New phones request access to your location and camera to use apps.

Think about it "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Your privacy is already invaded.

Mobile devices show where you are.

Your Facebook information is sold.

New phones request access to your location and camera to use apps.

Think about it "

Have location switched off on my phone, I'mnot on facebook,

my phone doesn't!

But I take your point.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We're shortly going to have our entire motoring lives fully monitored and controlled. Whilst currently it's just opted in drivers who get their driving analysed by insurance companies, it will likely become commonplace.

Though computer driven cars are developing, they'll be the ones doing the driving. I let my car drive on auto most of the time, as it monitors drivers in front, or cutting in, and adjusts my speed accordingly and alerts me to issues. It's quite relaxing to give up a bit of the tedious miro-management of driving, when I mainly want to get from A to B at legal speed.

In future, expect that you'll have to pre-book your slot on the motorways, paying more for a faster journey, greater use of the outside lane etc. It will be like booking those elusive cheaper train tickets. You want to leave your place at 6.30 and arrive in London at 8.45am - the system will calculate your route, what premiums you will have to pay to achieve it, maybe offer you a lie in, so that you can leave at 7.15 instead, with guaranteed arrival at 8.30, for just an extra £20. Our travel will be monetised, screwing more cash from us - the richest always being able to afford the best travel, as happens now.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"

Your privacy is already invaded.

Mobile devices show where you are.

Your Facebook information is sold.

New phones request access to your location and camera to use apps.

Think about it

Have location switched off on my phone, I'mnot on facebook,

my phone doesn't!

But I take your point. "

they can still trace your location from your phone, even with location switched off.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yes I know - therefore if doing something one shouldn't leave your phone at home!

However I have to say the original point was about whether dash cams are a good idea or not. I suppose it depends if the information is available to third parties automatically or whether it is just downloaded in the case of an accident.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

Your privacy is already invaded.

Mobile devices show where you are.

Your Facebook information is sold.

New phones request access to your location and camera to use apps.

Think about it

Have location switched off on my phone, I'mnot on facebook,

my phone doesn't!

But I take your point. "

There is also a difference between what you choose to do voluntarily and what you might be mandated to you.

I think dash board cams are probably a good idea provided the information recorded and access to it remains with the car owner.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

It is part of my insurance,get a discount for having the camara,got to be good

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By *ythenshawefredMan
over a year ago

stockport

As with all tech very good when used correctly but open to abuse I agree with them in principal as well as helmet cams for cyclists and bikers

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

A friend was sacked because the driving performance monitor fitted at the insistence of the insurance company claimed he was an erratic driver and the insurers refused to cover him even though he has a blame free record.

C...

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By *rank EinsteinMan
over a year ago

Burton upon stather


"

Your privacy is already invaded.

Mobile devices show where you are.

Your Facebook information is sold.

New phones request access to your location and camera to use apps.

Think about it

Have location switched off on my phone, I'mnot on facebook,

my phone doesn't!

But I take your point. "

Do you have any apps on your phone? Most of them require access to your location and Internet data.

It doesn't matter if your location is turned off

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By *ythenshawefredMan
over a year ago

stockport


"A friend was sacked because the driving performance monitor fitted at the insistence of the insurance company claimed he was an erratic driver and the insurers refused to cover him even though he has a blame free record.

C..."

Problem with monitors is that some would say you swerved dangerously or broke too hard when the reality is a dog ran out in front of you or a football bounced in the road and you suspected a child might follow kind of thing somebody cut you up ie they don't (can't) understand why you might do something apparently erratic but actually the right thing

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"

Problem with monitors is that some would say you swerved dangerously or broke too hard when the reality is a dog ran out in front of you or a football bounced in the road and you suspected a child might follow kind of thing somebody cut you up ie they don't (can't) understand why you might do something apparently erratic but actually the right thing"

I can't remember when any of the above actually happened to me.

That is not to say they don't happen but they don't happen that often

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can see the benefits highlighted by Cheddars but have to say not keen on having my privacy invaded. I suppose they would only monitor them if they needed to but my fear is not the gathering of information per-se but the fact you can't trust those who hold to act with probity.

Your privacy is already invaded.

Mobile devices show where you are.

Your Facebook information is sold.

New phones request access to your location and camera to use apps.

Think about it "

But I don't use Facebook, and all my mobile devices have the location function switched off.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Have had an email from a well known motoring organisation promoting these. What are your thoughts? Good idea or not?"

I was behind a couple with one that was so big, it was obscuring a good portion of his windscreen. They were driving reasonably, but at a ridiculously slow over cautionary 'dead on' 30mph speed. They ended up getting cut up by absolutely everyone.

Seen one that was battery operated though, I think it was for cyclists - battery lasted for 90mins, which would cover most journeys

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Do you have any apps on your phone? Most of them require access to your location and Internet data.

It doesn't matter if your location is turned off"

No apps - just use it for telephone text and email. Not sure if the email makes any difference as I'm a bit of a technophobe

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By *onnie and JohnCouple
over a year ago

andover

hi lov my cam saved me 1500e for a accident that was not my fault, connie x

as to the phone can you remove the battery ??

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside


"We're shortly going to have our entire motoring lives fully monitored and controlled. Whilst currently it's just opted in drivers who get their driving analysed by insurance companies, it will likely become commonplace.

Though computer driven cars are developing, they'll be the ones doing the driving. I let my car drive on auto most of the time, as it monitors drivers in front, or cutting in, and adjusts my speed accordingly and alerts me to issues. It's quite relaxing to give up a bit of the tedious miro-management of driving, when I mainly want to get from A to B at legal speed.

In future, expect that you'll have to pre-book your slot on the motorways, paying more for a faster journey, greater use of the outside lane etc. It will be like booking those elusive cheaper train tickets. You want to leave your place at 6.30 and arrive in London at 8.45am - the system will calculate your route, what premiums you will have to pay to achieve it, maybe offer you a lie in, so that you can leave at 7.15 instead, with guaranteed arrival at 8.30, for just an extra £20. Our travel will be monetised, screwing more cash from us - the richest always being able to afford the best travel, as happens now. "

hate this shit..surveillance is rife...no cams, no internet phone..people seem to think its a good idea...ok..i dont like to be a slave to societies 'conformism'..you can keep it..ill become a hermit..grrrr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We're shortly going to have our entire motoring lives fully monitored and controlled. Whilst currently it's just opted in drivers who get their driving analysed by insurance companies, it will likely become commonplace.

Though computer driven cars are developing, they'll be the ones doing the driving. I let my car drive on auto most of the time, as it monitors drivers in front, or cutting in, and adjusts my speed accordingly and alerts me to issues. It's quite relaxing to give up a bit of the tedious miro-management of driving, when I mainly want to get from A to B at legal speed.

In future, expect that you'll have to pre-book your slot on the motorways, paying more for a faster journey, greater use of the outside lane etc. It will be like booking those elusive cheaper train tickets. You want to leave your place at 6.30 and arrive in London at 8.45am - the system will calculate your route, what premiums you will have to pay to achieve it, maybe offer you a lie in, so that you can leave at 7.15 instead, with guaranteed arrival at 8.30, for just an extra £20. Our travel will be monetised, screwing more cash from us - the richest always being able to afford the best travel, as happens now.

hate this shit..surveillance is rife...no cams, no internet phone..people seem to think its a good idea...ok..i dont like to be a slave to societies 'conformism'..you can keep it..ill become a hermit..grrrr "

I know it sounds contrary, but can I share your cave?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Soon there'll be cameras and trackers on all cars.

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside


"We're shortly going to have our entire motoring lives fully monitored and controlled. Whilst currently it's just opted in drivers who get their driving analysed by insurance companies, it will likely become commonplace.

Though computer driven cars are developing, they'll be the ones doing the driving. I let my car drive on auto most of the time, as it monitors drivers in front, or cutting in, and adjusts my speed accordingly and alerts me to issues. It's quite relaxing to give up a bit of the tedious miro-management of driving, when I mainly want to get from A to B at legal speed.

In future, expect that you'll have to pre-book your slot on the motorways, paying more for a faster journey, greater use of the outside lane etc. It will be like booking those elusive cheaper train tickets. You want to leave your place at 6.30 and arrive in London at 8.45am - the system will calculate your route, what premiums you will have to pay to achieve it, maybe offer you a lie in, so that you can leave at 7.15 instead, with guaranteed arrival at 8.30, for just an extra £20. Our travel will be monetised, screwing more cash from us - the richest always being able to afford the best travel, as happens now.

hate this shit..surveillance is rife...no cams, no internet phone..people seem to think its a good idea...ok..i dont like to be a slave to societies 'conformism'..you can keep it..ill become a hermit..grrrr

I know it sounds contrary, but can I share your cave? "

find land , claim independence, have nice happy life mind our own business while others mind their own.....sure..

bit off topic, yet not,,read berlins theory of positive and negative liberty? free on internet..if you knew it was taught in politics and economics / philosophy degree and that most PM's and mp's do that course, you would get more of the truth of whats happening than many...not that many people want to know...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We're shortly going to have our entire motoring lives fully monitored and controlled. Whilst currently it's just opted in drivers who get their driving analysed by insurance companies, it will likely become commonplace.

Though computer driven cars are developing, they'll be the ones doing the driving. I let my car drive on auto most of the time, as it monitors drivers in front, or cutting in, and adjusts my speed accordingly and alerts me to issues. It's quite relaxing to give up a bit of the tedious miro-management of driving, when I mainly want to get from A to B at legal speed.

In future, expect that you'll have to pre-book your slot on the motorways, paying more for a faster journey, greater use of the outside lane etc. It will be like booking those elusive cheaper train tickets. You want to leave your place at 6.30 and arrive in London at 8.45am - the system will calculate your route, what premiums you will have to pay to achieve it, maybe offer you a lie in, so that you can leave at 7.15 instead, with guaranteed arrival at 8.30, for just an extra £20. Our travel will be monetised, screwing more cash from us - the richest always being able to afford the best travel, as happens now.

hate this shit..surveillance is rife...no cams, no internet phone..people seem to think its a good idea...ok..i dont like to be a slave to societies 'conformism'..you can keep it..ill become a hermit..grrrr

I know it sounds contrary, but can I share your cave?

find land , claim independence, have nice happy life mind our own business while others mind their own.....sure..

bit off topic, yet not,,read berlins theory of positive and negative liberty? free on internet..if you knew it was taught in politics and economics / philosophy degree and that most PM's and mp's do that course, you would get more of the truth of whats happening than many...not that many people want to know... "

And quite a few that don't want you to know.

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By *agan_PairCouple
over a year ago

portchester

I've seen a few cars of late with these fitted. And each time the vehicle has been driven in a terrible fashion and in a way that will incite Road rage. My theory is that at the moment these are bought by people that keep finding themselves in road rage situations and think it is everyone else's fault. Maybe when they watch the videos back they will see what's going on but I doubt it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got front and rear fitted in both our motors...

Mainly after a shunt in Cov when it later transpired the car was packed with whiplashed passengers, the driver couldn't get out the car as was too badly injured...and the rear of the car was stored in...

Liz' fault.... Kia Picanto...no damage, 5mph tops

They won and got compo....

Coventry drivers......not good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it happened again I wouldn't mention the cams until they had hung themselves, then present the footage in glorious HD

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a gopro action camera mounted on my dashboard when I go out in my car. I bought it for mountain biking but decided that since I have it, it would be good to keep in the car as evidence if im in an accident that wasn't my fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hi lov my cam saved me 1500e for a accident that was not my fault, connie x

as to the phone can you remove the battery ?? "

satnav

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum has a camera attached to her windscreen now, ever since a stupid bitch hit her car in a car park and denied responsibility. Any future incidents if any will be recorded. so yes good idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have one. I've caught some shocking driving with it. I think they're a brilliant idea when a claim is in dispute or you find yourself behind a crash for cash scammer.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

I think I would be in favour, but what I would like is for the information gathered to be stored on a hard-drive in the car, and then wirelessly transmitted to my home computer when I park up. Then I'd have a backup hard-drive to download it to, perhaps every week, and keep it for 6 months before deleting it.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where would YouTube be without Russian dashboard cams?

C...

They're fucking crazy "

Proof the don't stop people driving like teapots?

I've thought about getting a dash cam and trying to get cheaper insurance from having it, but the comment made about them being mandatory....no thanks, privacy is something that's getting rarer and rarer we don't need more cameras watching our every move

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got one and it was pretty much the best £60 I've spent. Some twat if parked next to in a school car park drove away and dragged the side of his car across the front of mine, as I'd parked it had filed the reg number and the colour of his car matched mine. Initially when the school put me in touch with him he denied it until I told him I had video evidence that he was parked next to me and I'd informed the police who were going to visit him the next day if he didn't fess up ( I lied to him about the police ). Suddenly he gave me his insurance details and asked me to tell the cops it was all sorted.

Worth it's weight in gold

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"I think I would be in favour, but what I would like is for the information gathered to be stored on a hard-drive in the car, and then wirelessly transmitted to my home computer when I park up. Then I'd have a backup hard-drive to download it to, perhaps every week, and keep it for 6 months before deleting it."

NOw that sounds like a good idea. I wonder if anyone else has thought of it yet? Could be some money in it!

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