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"Ahhhh, I remember going on school trips as a kid. I also remember paying for my kids to go on them as well. But, I do draw the line at coughing up £1,650 on a Barbados sports trip. Makes you wonder if the teachers want the parents to pay for their holiday Source:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-33047817" Holiday? With thirty or more kids with them? | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ?" Agree some people can afford things others can't. That's life! Why should the ones who can go miss out. I couldn't go on a School trip to India. I accepted that my parents could not afford it and did not resent those that went. | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ?" The school should give serious thought to what happens when half the people who want to go cannot. The school has a duty to think about being fair to all. I would hate to be the parent of a child who loved sport but couldn't go on a trip of a lifetime with all their mates because I couldn't afford it. | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ? The school should give serious thought to what happens when half the people who want to go cannot. The school has a duty to think about being fair to all. I would hate to be the parent of a child who loved sport but couldn't go on a trip of a lifetime with all their mates because I couldn't afford it." | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ? The school should give serious thought to what happens when half the people who want to go cannot. The school has a duty to think about being fair to all. I would hate to be the parent of a child who loved sport but couldn't go on a trip of a lifetime with all their mates because I couldn't afford it." The school WILL have given lots of thought. It's not a part of the curriculum that they are denying to the less wealthy. It's an ..... Do you know what... I give up :p You win. Would everyone please take back to the shops everything I cannot afford and cancel your holidays. Give some serious thought to how you are making me feel. Ta xx | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ? The school should give serious thought to what happens when half the people who want to go cannot. The school has a duty to think about being fair to all. I would hate to be the parent of a child who loved sport but couldn't go on a trip of a lifetime with all their mates because I couldn't afford it. The school WILL have given lots of thought. It's not a part of the curriculum that they are denying to the less wealthy. It's an ..... Do you know what... I give up :p You win. Would everyone please take back to the shops everything I cannot afford and cancel your holidays. Give some serious thought to how you are making me feel. Ta xx " I find myself agreeing with miss crumpet. I missed out on a fantastic school trip because my parents couldn't afford it. It hasn't scared me for life. | |||
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"I think the cost should be subsidised so more kids can afford to go. Sounds a bit extravangent. Why not Barcelona? " Funny you say that because we got offered a sports trip there from our not so little ones school for five days at 800 hundred pounds. She didn't go as the school doesn't support the sport she plays, nonetheless that's seriously expensive. | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ? The school should give serious thought to what happens when half the people who want to go cannot. The school has a duty to think about being fair to all. I would hate to be the parent of a child who loved sport but couldn't go on a trip of a lifetime with all their mates because I couldn't afford it. The school WILL have given lots of thought. It's not a part of the curriculum that they are denying to the less wealthy. It's an ..... Do you know what... I give up :p You win. Would everyone please take back to the shops everything I cannot afford and cancel your holidays. Give some serious thought to how you are making me feel. Ta xx " Yeah they should also stop kids wearing expensive designer trainers in P.E or turning up to school in their range rovers we can't afford...that's not fair either Seriously....its unlikely this trip will involve 'all their friends' only the rich few who can afford it. Just like the stories they'll endure about who went where over summer. You're lucky the teachers are giving up their time to offer it....looking after however many kids for no pay (yup they don't get paid to work in the holidays and i can pretty much be sure the school won't be putting this on during term time). Lastly...all schools do have subsidies and budgets for 'pupil premium' or 'free school meals' kids which could cover the costs of certain things, trips included. Get a grip. | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ? The school should give serious thought to what happens when half the people who want to go cannot. The school has a duty to think about being fair to all. I would hate to be the parent of a child who loved sport but couldn't go on a trip of a lifetime with all their mates because I couldn't afford it. The school WILL have given lots of thought. It's not a part of the curriculum that they are denying to the less wealthy. It's an ..... Do you know what... I give up :p You win. Would everyone please take back to the shops everything I cannot afford and cancel your holidays. Give some serious thought to how you are making me feel. Ta xx Yeah they should also stop kids wearing expensive designer trainers in P.E or turning up to school in their range rovers we can't afford...that's not fair either Seriously....its unlikely this trip will involve 'all their friends' only the rich few who can afford it. Just like the stories they'll endure about who went where over summer. You're lucky the teachers are giving up their time to offer it....looking after however many kids for no pay (yup they don't get paid to work in the holidays and i can pretty much be sure the school won't be putting this on during term time). Lastly...all schools do have subsidies and budgets for 'pupil premium' or 'free school meals' kids which could cover the costs of certain things, trips included. Get a grip. " | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ? The school should give serious thought to what happens when half the people who want to go cannot. The school has a duty to think about being fair to all. I would hate to be the parent of a child who loved sport but couldn't go on a trip of a lifetime with all their mates because I couldn't afford it. The school WILL have given lots of thought. It's not a part of the curriculum that they are denying to the less wealthy. It's an ..... Do you know what... I give up :p You win. Would everyone please take back to the shops everything I cannot afford and cancel your holidays. Give some serious thought to how you are making me feel. Ta xx Yeah they should also stop kids wearing expensive designer trainers in P.E or turning up to school in their range rovers we can't afford...that's not fair either Seriously....its unlikely this trip will involve 'all their friends' only the rich few who can afford it. Just like the stories they'll endure about who went where over summer. You're lucky the teachers are giving up their time to offer it....looking after however many kids for no pay (yup they don't get paid to work in the holidays and i can pretty much be sure the school won't be putting this on during term time). Lastly...all schools do have subsidies and budgets for 'pupil premium' or 'free school meals' kids which could cover the costs of certain things, trips included. Get a grip. " Sorry but Teachers do get paid for school Holidays as they are on an annual Salary (annual meaning twelve Months). And i would not be happy if my Taxes were to be spent on sending any schoolkids abroad for a week to play sports as i cannot for the life of me see anything beneficial in it. Gimp | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ? The school should give serious thought to what happens when half the people who want to go cannot. The school has a duty to think about being fair to all. I would hate to be the parent of a child who loved sport but couldn't go on a trip of a lifetime with all their mates because I couldn't afford it. The school WILL have given lots of thought. It's not a part of the curriculum that they are denying to the less wealthy. It's an ..... Do you know what... I give up :p You win. Would everyone please take back to the shops everything I cannot afford and cancel your holidays. Give some serious thought to how you are making me feel. Ta xx Yeah they should also stop kids wearing expensive designer trainers in P.E or turning up to school in their range rovers we can't afford...that's not fair either Seriously....its unlikely this trip will involve 'all their friends' only the rich few who can afford it. Just like the stories they'll endure about who went where over summer. You're lucky the teachers are giving up their time to offer it....looking after however many kids for no pay (yup they don't get paid to work in the holidays and i can pretty much be sure the school won't be putting this on during term time). Lastly...all schools do have subsidies and budgets for 'pupil premium' or 'free school meals' kids which could cover the costs of certain things, trips included. Get a grip. Sorry but Teachers do get paid for school Holidays as they are on an annual Salary (annual meaning twelve Months). And i would not be happy if my Taxes were to be spent on sending any schoolkids abroad for a week to play sports as i cannot for the life of me see anything beneficial in it. Gimp" Your taxes don't pay for it. It's an optional trip paid for by the parents. Yes we do get paid for the 'school holidays' doesn't mean we are on holiday though. Most of us still go in to work to catch up on the things we couldn't finish with the kids being there | |||
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"I hadn't heard of this so I went to read it. WHY do people over react so much ? The school is OFFERING it. It's OPTIONAL. It's a BARGAIN. It's not as if it's a trip that some will be denied and have their education harmed. Does anyone EVER go into a shoe shop and make a song and dance about things being unfair to kids cos you can't buy them the shoes that mrs. smith can ? Anyone ever get outraged at people who take their kids to Alton Towers or buy Popcorn in the cinema when not ALL kid's parents can afford it ? If some can go - why shouldn't they ? The school should give serious thought to what happens when half the people who want to go cannot. The school has a duty to think about being fair to all. I would hate to be the parent of a child who loved sport but couldn't go on a trip of a lifetime with all their mates because I couldn't afford it. The school WILL have given lots of thought. It's not a part of the curriculum that they are denying to the less wealthy. It's an ..... Do you know what... I give up :p You win. Would everyone please take back to the shops everything I cannot afford and cancel your holidays. Give some serious thought to how you are making me feel. Ta xx Yeah they should also stop kids wearing expensive designer trainers in P.E or turning up to school in their range rovers we can't afford...that's not fair either Seriously....its unlikely this trip will involve 'all their friends' only the rich few who can afford it. Just like the stories they'll endure about who went where over summer. You're lucky the teachers are giving up their time to offer it....looking after however many kids for no pay (yup they don't get paid to work in the holidays and i can pretty much be sure the school won't be putting this on during term time). Lastly...all schools do have subsidies and budgets for 'pupil premium' or 'free school meals' kids which could cover the costs of certain things, trips included. Get a grip. Sorry but Teachers do get paid for school Holidays as they are on an annual Salary (annual meaning twelve Months). And i would not be happy if my Taxes were to be spent on sending any schoolkids abroad for a week to play sports as i cannot for the life of me see anything beneficial in it. Gimp Your taxes don't pay for it. It's an optional trip paid for by the parents. Yes we do get paid for the 'school holidays' doesn't mean we are on holiday though. Most of us still go in to work to catch up on the things we couldn't finish with the kids being there" Really ? So the trip isnt subsidised at all, The Teachers pay their own Fares Hotel and Meals?..I stand Corrected and will ask for a reduction on my Taxes for the time that it isnt being used for actual Education. Gimp | |||
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" Your taxes don't pay for it. It's an optional trip paid for by the parents. Yes we do get paid for the 'school holidays' doesn't mean we are on holiday though. Most of us still go in to work to catch up on the things we couldn't finish with the kids being there Really ? So the trip isnt subsidised at all, The Teachers pay their own Fares Hotel and Meals?..I stand Corrected and will ask for a reduction on my Taxes for the time that it isnt being used for actual Education. Gimp" Except you've already been paid with the luxury of your own education. Maybe you should give that back. As for 'holidays' that we're paid for...there's no expectation teachers 'work' through them by providing extra curricular. There's enough to do to fill the time with prep work which you have to fit in somewhere. Comments like yours only ever come from people who are completely ignorant of the life of a teacher. Very easy to judge when you have no idea. | |||
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" Your taxes don't pay for it. It's an optional trip paid for by the parents. Yes we do get paid for the 'school holidays' doesn't mean we are on holiday though. Most of us still go in to work to catch up on the things we couldn't finish with the kids being there Really ? So the trip isnt subsidised at all, The Teachers pay their own Fares Hotel and Meals?..I stand Corrected and will ask for a reduction on my Taxes for the time that it isnt being used for actual Education. Gimp Except you've already been paid with the luxury of your own education. Maybe you should give that back. As for 'holidays' that we're paid for...there's no expectation teachers 'work' through them by providing extra curricular. There's enough to do to fill the time with prep work which you have to fit in somewhere. Comments like yours only ever come from people who are completely ignorant of the life of a teacher. Very easy to judge when you have no idea. " As you say, Its very easy to judge when you have no idea especially regarding somebody you dont know. Ps i dont think i mentioned free Holidays as to my knowledge Subsidised does not mean free. Thank you Gimp | |||
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"Times have certainly changed as when my oldest was in year 9 he went to Paris, subsidised and I only had to pay a hundred as that is what said I could afford. My daughter is going to Spain next year, no chance of a subsidy ...academy, so they are asking us for an additional donation every year for basic supplies, which I refuse to pay on principal as I pay my taxes. She is still going. I am on a payment plan as I have a year at forty a month to get through it. I work hard, long hours, have two masters degrees and still struggle to support myself and my three children. But, they totally understand the value of hard work and that we can't always have everything we want in life. There will be certain funds certainly within primary schools, not sure about secondary .... closing the gap money for children whose families are on low incomes, so called pupil premium can be diverted for lower cost trips which allow less well off children to experience things in life they never would which will in turn raise their academic attainment. " We should be seeking to encourage social mobility and equal opportunity, while well intentioned, a trip like this could do the opposite. Analogies to Sky TV etc are misplaced. There are lots of things in life that we will never be able to afford, I'm sure everyone understands that, but in a school environment surely it is the right of our students to have equal opportunities? Hopefully the school is looking into sponsorship and fundraising to ensure that each child has the same opportunity irrespective of family income. | |||
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"Ahhhh, I remember going on school trips as a kid. I also remember paying for my kids to go on them as well. But, I do draw the line at coughing up £1,650 on a Barbados sports trip. Makes you wonder if the teachers want the parents to pay for their holiday Source:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-33047817" Lovely if you can afford it, and just think how the poor, underpaid, overworked staff will suffer on their freebie trip. Seychelles for easter, Maldives for Xmas, field trip to NZ .. . I'll have some of that. | |||
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"I must say, I do wonder why they refused to comment on how many teachers are going and how their places are being funded..." That's daft on the schools part. They should provide that info really. | |||
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"I have been informed that academy schools are private companies and take a profit from these trips" Not all academies are run by private companies but quite a lot are. Private companies exist to make a profit in the delivery of their service and our government thinks that using public money for private companies to make a profit improves those services. If they are taking a slice of this then it's government sanctioned through the award of the that contract to be an academy school. | |||
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"I have been informed that academy schools are private companies and take a profit from these trips" Only sponsored academies have private involvement. The rest (I'd suspect the majority now by quite some way) are wholly state funded, they're just free from local authority control. If a "profit" is generated on the trip it would be ploughed back into the school budget. The trend seems to be towards bigger and better when it comes to school trips. At my school we used to go to France, but the same school now does skiing trips and all sorts of far flung exotic sounding stuff. I think it's got the potential to be a bit divisive. If parents want their kids to have a culturally educational trip to somewhere like Barbados, they could always take them there themselves. For those begrudging the teachers a "free trip" - they will be looking after a huge number of someone else's teenagers 24 hours a day for the duration of the trip. Personally I'd rather stay at home and not have to put up with other people's little darlings | |||
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"The other option is, the children try to earn the money for their trip themselves. Doing chores etc, getting a paper round, mowing the lawn for Doris down the road etc etc. Even if they raising 50% of the cost, it would make them realise the value of what the trip is truly costing. " | |||
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"The other option is, the children try to earn the money for their trip themselves. Doing chores etc, getting a paper round, mowing the lawn for Doris down the road etc etc. Even if they raising 50% of the cost, it would make them realise the value of what the trip is truly costing. " This is what I had to do for my trip to France in the 90s, I think even the most resourceful 13 year old would struggle to find enough to raise this much though! | |||
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"The other option is, the children try to earn the money for their trip themselves. Doing chores etc, getting a paper round, mowing the lawn for Doris down the road etc etc. Even if they raising 50% of the cost, it would make them realise the value of what the trip is truly costing. " ....and they could ask Leeds united to fund the other 50%. | |||
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"The other option is, the children try to earn the money for their trip themselves. Doing chores etc, getting a paper round, mowing the lawn for Doris down the road etc etc. Even if they raising 50% of the cost, it would make them realise the value of what the trip is truly costing. This is what I had to do for my trip to France in the 90s, I think even the most resourceful 13 year old would struggle to find enough to raise this much though! " I agree, but I was thinking a lot of grandparents would be impressed with their grandchild trying to raise it themselves. And be more likely to assist if they can see they are trying hard to raise the money. I always had to work towards a school trip. | |||
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"The other option is, the children try to earn the money for their trip themselves. Doing chores etc, getting a paper round, mowing the lawn for Doris down the road etc etc. Even if they raising 50% of the cost, it would make them realise the value of what the trip is truly costing. ....and they could ask Leeds united to fund the other 50%. " That really made me laugh, as my ex supported them ! Are you psychic! | |||
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