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Uber have introduced handy hints on how not to get raped in their taxis

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Let's start again shall we.

Interesting article in cosmopolitan.

Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"Let's start again shall we.

Interesting article in cosmopolitan.

Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. "

Uber taxis have revolutionised the cab industry in the USA and it is about time our cab industry generally and private hire particularly came into the 21st Century.

As a regular Uber user, my comments are based on real life experience and not on an irrational fear of change that tends to get broadcast in the media.

There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no words for this article....

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let's start again shall we.

Interesting article in cosmopolitan.

Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi.

Uber taxis have revolutionised the cab industry in the USA and it is about time our cab industry generally and private hire particularly came into the 21st Century.

As a regular Uber user, my comments are based on real life experience and not on an irrational fear of change that tends to get broadcast in the media.

There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards."

I don't often agree with some of your posts but on this I do agree. I'm not saying rapes in uber cars do not happen but I do wonder if some of the stories are made worse to help the black taxi's out. Plus with any luck it'll help get rid of Addison lee, horrible drivers there.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare. "

Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.

I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.

This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.

Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.

I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.

This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services."

All very well if what you say is true.

Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let's start again shall we.

Interesting article in cosmopolitan.

Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. "

How about they just make sure their drivers don't rape female customers?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards."

Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Let's start again shall we.

Interesting article in cosmopolitan.

Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi.

Uber taxis have revolutionised the cab industry in the USA and it is about time our cab industry generally and private hire particularly came into the 21st Century.

As a regular Uber user, my comments are based on real life experience and not on an irrational fear of change that tends to get broadcast in the media.

There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards.

I don't often agree with some of your posts but on this I do agree. I'm not saying rapes in uber cars do not happen but I do wonder if some of the stories are made worse to help the black taxi's out. Plus with any luck it'll help get rid of Addison lee, horrible drivers there. "

How can you make a rape story worse ?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I thought every private hire company would give you the same advice now, they give you the reg of the car picking you up and the name of the driver so you don't get into an unlicensed cab.

So it seems there have been two instances across the world of an assault so your title is a bit like a newspapers headline to scaremonger.

I am guessing Black cabs business is going down?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Black cabs have to embrace the new technology, if there was a black cab app I would use it every time over Uber because I know the drivers are trained and checked. If they keep their head in the sand I really fear for the industry and those who have worked hard to gain the knowledge. Compete on your better service, better vehicles and better people.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I thought every private hire company would give you the same advice now, they give you the reg of the car picking you up and the name of the driver so you don't get into an unlicensed cab.

So it seems there have been two instances across the world of an assault so your title is a bit like a newspapers headline to scaremonger.

I am guessing Black cabs business is going down?"

I copied and pasted the headline so no scaremongering on my behalf.

There have been many instances of tapes by uber drivers , a lot more than two. Hence the ban on uber in many countries.

Business is fine thanks for your concern.

But we all have to try and keep the standard up in our own industries otherwise no one will feel safe in a taxi.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I wasn't concerned about your income to be fair.

I read the article you pointed people to, which mentioned 3 cases you are right and not 2. There was a sexual assault on someone in a cab in the City we visited last week, so I suppose sexual assault cases are not confined to one taxi firm.

Now I am guessing they have to have CRB checks or the equivalent to be able to drive the taxis?

See, I have always said these mobile phones are a curse, but firms are using them to move on with how they do things while others stand still. The only option is to join them

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Uber is banned in

Spain

Germany

Thailand

South Korea

Holland

Belgium

Japan

Australia

And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada

It's offices have been raided in Paris

Not bad for a legit company.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"I thought every private hire company would give you the same advice now, they give you the reg of the car picking you up and the name of the driver so you don't get into an unlicensed cab.

So it seems there have been two instances across the world of an assault so your title is a bit like a newspapers headline to scaremonger.

I am guessing Black cabs business is going down?

I copied and pasted the headline so no scaremongering on my behalf.

There have been many instances of tapes by uber drivers , a lot more than two. Hence the ban on uber in many countries.

Business is fine thanks for your concern.

But we all have to try and keep the standard up in our own industries otherwise no one will feel safe in a taxi. "

I can only tell you that in the time that I have been coming to the US, the Uber concept has completely taken over from regular cabs almost everywhere apart from Manhattan.

It is better for drivers because they are not paid a pittance by gangster private companies and it is better for users because the technology is better, the cars are better and the fares are better.

I am not aware of any more incidents of "shady" practices over and above what is normal in day to day life. I have certainly never heard of Uber operators in any way victim is in their clients. Uber is massive over here and if it had anything remotely like the issues you allude to, then this explosion of popularity would never have happened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We had a dodgy experience with uber and we've only used them a handful of times. I've had countless run ins with black cab drivers as a cyclist but never as a passenger. I won't use Addison Lee. Our local minicabs are always fine but i know that at least 1 driver has been convicted of raping a passenger. Point is any driver could be an arsehole, or a dangerous driver or a potential rapist. There is only so much you can do to protect yourself

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Now I am guessing they have to have CRB checks or the equivalent to be able to drive the taxis?

)"

Uber drivers may well be subject to some form of check , in some instances this is just a letter of good behaviour from an embassy

But the problem is how the uber management deal with the checks once they are received. Time and again drivers with past convictions have been employed by uber as they ignored the results of the check.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"Uber is banned in

Spain

Germany

Thailand

South Korea

Holland

Belgium

Japan

Australia

And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada

It's offices have been raided in Paris

Not bad for a legit company.

"

Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't.

Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours.

If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic.

Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"

Now I am guessing they have to have CRB checks or the equivalent to be able to drive the taxis?

)

Uber drivers may well be subject to some form of check , in some instances this is just a letter of good behaviour from an embassy

But the problem is how the uber management deal with the checks once they are received. Time and again drivers with past convictions have been employed by uber as they ignored the results of the check. "

In which case if this is true thats not right at all, so no wonder people are not amused.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a taxi driver and I've never been raped in my taxi ! Am I doing something wrong ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The rapes may be (thankfully) isolated incidents, but two of my London friends who used it a lot have had their accounts hacked and taxis booked by random other people. Think I'll stick with the firms I already use if it heads north, they've both had decent apps for a couple of years and I never have any bother.

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By *unLondonLadMan
over a year ago

Camberley/London


"Uber is banned in

Spain

Germany

Thailand

South Korea

Holland

Belgium

Japan

Australia

And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada

It's offices have been raided in Paris

Not bad for a legit company.

Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't.

Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours.

If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic.

Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone."

bang on

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By *ythenshawefredMan
over a year ago

stockport

I'd think there are good and bad in every cross section of society be it jobs, sporting teams, vehicle drivers or even random groups of people (including fab members) however if a company doesn't regulate and screen their employees be it Fifa uber or the local boozer then the problems will surface the onus should be on making sure employees are up to standard, this wouldn't help though if somebody has no previous and the offence is the 1st instance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Right I don't know what the hell an über taxi is? I don't think they're in South Wales, whenever I've had a taxi it's always Dai the milks taxi firm.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

You hear of stories in the news of women getting sexually assaulted in taxis that belong to different companies, so why pick out uber?

Truth is any taxi driver working for any company could be a potential attacker.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Uber is banned in

Spain

Germany

Thailand

South Korea

Holland

Belgium

Japan

Australia

And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada

It's offices have been raided in Paris

Not bad for a legit company.

Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't.

Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours.

If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic.

Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone."

There was no attack. Just posting an article where uber has felt in necessary to prong a guideline of how not to get raped by one of their drivers. The rest of my retorts were answering replies.

Better fares simply isn't true. Their price surge policy can see you being charged up to ten times the quoted fare during busy periods , as the people trying to escape the Sydney terrorist incident found to their cost. No other taxi firm to my knowledge does this.

Better cars ? An uber driver does not have to drive a purpose built vehicle. You could be picked up in anything.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You hear of stories in the news of women getting sexually assaulted in taxis that belong to different companies, so why pick out uber?

Truth is any taxi driver working for any company could be a potential attacker."

I wasn't singling out uber. Uber were singling out uber. I was just posting the headline of a magazine I came across.

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By *SweetVioletxWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I always use a black cab - not saying that no one ever was attached in a black cab but after years of living in London and being harassed by unlicensed "private hire" drivers outside of pubs and clubs I feel safer in a hackney cab.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"Uber is banned in

Spain

Germany

Thailand

South Korea

Holland

Belgium

Japan

Australia

And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada

It's offices have been raided in Paris

Not bad for a legit company.

Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't.

Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours.

If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic.

Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone.

There was no attack. Just posting an article where uber has felt in necessary to prong a guideline of how not to get raped by one of their drivers. The rest of my retorts were answering replies.

Better fares simply isn't true. Their price surge policy can see you being charged up to ten times the quoted fare during busy periods , as the people trying to escape the Sydney terrorist incident found to their cost. No other taxi firm to my knowledge does this.

Better cars ? An uber driver does not have to drive a purpose built vehicle. You could be picked up in anything.

"

My only experience of Uber is that I have used them more and more over the last three years as their popularity has increased in the US. I know the following to be the case in the three states that I visit most often.

Drivers have a background check

Cars must be under three years old and have four doors

Car and driver must have liability insurance

Most drivers previously worked on zero wage and a small commission working up to 18 hours a day for taxi firms. They LOVE Uber.

In one city where I always stay at the same hotel I paid $40 three years ago to get from downtown to the hotel and it was normal to offer at least a $5 tip. The cars had hard plastic seats and armoured plastic between the back seat and the driver.

Yesterday, I made the same trip in an almost new Skoda that was clean and smelled nice and the fare was $19 and tip not expected. It was easy to get the car, it arrived exactly when the driver said it would and he was a polite and chatty individual who made the journey enjoyable.

I personally would never use a conventional cab again in the US.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's an uber taxi?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Uber is banned in

Spain

Germany

Thailand

South Korea

Holland

Belgium

Japan

Australia

And the America cities of Oregan & Nevada

It's offices have been raided in Paris

Not bad for a legit company.

Porn is banned in a lot of places, as is alcohol and many of the things we believe and think as being acceptable. Holland embraces progressive drugs laws. We don't.

Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours.

If you don't mind me saying, your posts sound like an attack based on an agenda rather than logic.

Uber has revolutionised taxis and why on earth should we not want better cars, better fares and a technology that actually works in everyone's benefit? Being stuck in a time warp and not wanting change never did any good for anyone.

There was no attack. Just posting an article where uber has felt in necessary to prong a guideline of how not to get raped by one of their drivers. The rest of my retorts were answering replies.

Better fares simply isn't true. Their price surge policy can see you being charged up to ten times the quoted fare during busy periods , as the people trying to escape the Sydney terrorist incident found to their cost. No other taxi firm to my knowledge does this.

Better cars ? An uber driver does not have to drive a purpose built vehicle. You could be picked up in anything.

My only experience of Uber is that I have used them more and more over the last three years as their popularity has increased in the US. I know the following to be the case in the three states that I visit most often.

Drivers have a background check

Cars must be under three years old and have four doors

Car and driver must have liability insurance

Most drivers previously worked on zero wage and a small commission working up to 18 hours a day for taxi firms. They LOVE Uber.

In one city where I always stay at the same hotel I paid $40 three years ago to get from downtown to the hotel and it was normal to offer at least a $5 tip. The cars had hard plastic seats and armoured plastic between the back seat and the driver.

Yesterday, I made the same trip in an almost new Skoda that was clean and smelled nice and the fare was $19 and tip not expected. It was easy to get the car, it arrived exactly when the driver said it would and he was a polite and chatty individual who made the journey enjoyable.

I personally would never use a conventional cab again in the US."

Everywhere is different and everywhere has their own reasons for making decisions that are different to ours.

But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London.

What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here.

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By *leur de lisWoman
over a year ago

Buxton


"Let's start again shall we.

Interesting article in cosmopolitan.

Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. "

You take care who ever gives you a lift but as a woman I would rather used a licensed taxi and always take note of the number.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"

But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London.

What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here. "

So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London.

What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here.

So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms?"

TFL have licensed them in London without making the proper checks. They lied when they said they used a proper barrister to check the legality of their operation , when in fact they used an in house junior solicitor.

Some have alluded to the fact that David Cameron has two good chums employed by uber as to why they are allowed to operate in London with no checks.

Boris wants them banned. The deputy mayor wants them banned. They are subject to a high court order that is going through at the moment because of their operations.

As Mr or Mrs Hot said earlier "why stand in the way of progress" but surely there should be a level playing field. Why does every other cab firm have to jump through hoops to be licensed but uber can just turn up with an app , is it because TFL are not fit for purpose or is it because they are Cameron's mates.

And they don't pay tax here either as they are registered abroad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London.

What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here.

So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms?

TFL have licensed them in London without making the proper checks. They lied when they said they used a proper barrister to check the legality of their operation , when in fact they used an in house junior solicitor.

Some have alluded to the fact that David Cameron has two good chums employed by uber as to why they are allowed to operate in London with no checks.

Boris wants them banned. The deputy mayor wants them banned. They are subject to a high court order that is going through at the moment because of their operations.

As Mr or Mrs Hot said earlier "why stand in the way of progress" but surely there should be a level playing field. Why does every other cab firm have to jump through hoops to be licensed but uber can just turn up with an app , is it because TFL are not fit for purpose or is it because they are Cameron's mates.

And they don't pay tax here either as they are registered abroad. "

Firstly I cannot stand the Tories secondly I think boris is a lying sack of shit. But saying David Camermoron has friends in über and that's why they get to operate is bogus because the owner of Addison lee is a major Tory benefactor, and I assume they have the same regs as other licences firms.

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains


"What's an uber taxi? "

I've heard of them, but not what makes them different other than they have an app?

Can't imagine them branching out into Wigan anytime soon!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London.

What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here.

So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms?

TFL have licensed them in London without making the proper checks. They lied when they said they used a proper barrister to check the legality of their operation , when in fact they used an in house junior solicitor.

Some have alluded to the fact that David Cameron has two good chums employed by uber as to why they are allowed to operate in London with no checks.

Boris wants them banned. The deputy mayor wants them banned. They are subject to a high court order that is going through at the moment because of their operations.

As Mr or Mrs Hot said earlier "why stand in the way of progress" but surely there should be a level playing field. Why does every other cab firm have to jump through hoops to be licensed but uber can just turn up with an app , is it because TFL are not fit for purpose or is it because they are Cameron's mates.

And they don't pay tax here either as they are registered abroad.

Firstly I cannot stand the Tories secondly I think boris is a lying sack of shit. But saying David Camermoron has friends in über and that's why they get to operate is bogus because the owner of Addison lee is a major Tory benefactor, and I assume they have the same regs as other licences firms. "

See that's where you are wrong. Uber don't have the same regs at all. Maybe having Cameron as a chum is coincidental , but the fact is they do not have to bide by the same rules as any other cab firm in London including Addison Lea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

But I can assure you those car checks are not in place in London.

What happens in the U.S. isn't necessarily what happens here.

So why are they not subject to the same taxi regulations as other firms?

TFL have licensed them in London without making the proper checks. They lied when they said they used a proper barrister to check the legality of their operation , when in fact they used an in house junior solicitor.

Some have alluded to the fact that David Cameron has two good chums employed by uber as to why they are allowed to operate in London with no checks.

Boris wants them banned. The deputy mayor wants them banned. They are subject to a high court order that is going through at the moment because of their operations.

As Mr or Mrs Hot said earlier "why stand in the way of progress" but surely there should be a level playing field. Why does every other cab firm have to jump through hoops to be licensed but uber can just turn up with an app , is it because TFL are not fit for purpose or is it because they are Cameron's mates.

And they don't pay tax here either as they are registered abroad.

Firstly I cannot stand the Tories secondly I think boris is a lying sack of shit. But saying David Camermoron has friends in über and that's why they get to operate is bogus because the owner of Addison lee is a major Tory benefactor, and I assume they have the same regs as other licences firms.

See that's where you are wrong. Uber don't have the same regs at all. Maybe having Cameron as a chum is coincidental , but the fact is they do not have to bide by the same rules as any other cab firm in London including Addison Lea. "

That's my point I hate defending Saint David Camermoron modern day saviour of the world, but ubers licence is nothing to do with being his friend.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

I'm sure I heard on LBC that Addison Lee and other minicab companies are complaining that Uber are breaking the rules too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure I heard on LBC that Addison Lee and other minicab companies are complaining that Uber are breaking the rules too. "

Addison Lee will complain about anything that doesn't suit their agenda.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards.

Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear. "

That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning..

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By *untimegeekMan
over a year ago

Havant


"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.

Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.

I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.

This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.

All very well if what you say is true.

Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.

"

To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

If what you say is true Mt Polk I am sure it can all be checked and it be shut down

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards.

Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear.

That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning.. "

Lots of taxi firms give the same advice, it is just basic common sense.....even Morrisons send you the name of the driver/ the make of the van it is coming in and the REG.

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over a year ago


"Black cabs have to embrace the new technology, if there was a black cab app I would use it every time over Uber because I know the drivers are trained and checked. If they keep their head in the sand I really fear for the industry and those who have worked hard to gain the knowledge. Compete on your better service, better vehicles and better people."
there is Hailo and gett taxi

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over a year ago


"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.

Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.

I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.

This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.

All very well if what you say is true.

Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.

To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's"

Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license.

And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders.

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over a year ago


"If what you say is true Mt Polk I am sure it can all be checked and it be shut down"

It is in the courts at the moment.

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

Perhaps as a society we can try teaching people not to rape, rather than how not to be a victim.

Just a thought.

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By *untimegeekMan
over a year ago

Havant

And one of the UK's worse sexual predators was John worboys, a black cab driver

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards.

Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear.

That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning..

Lots of taxi firms give the same advice, it is just basic common sense.....even Morrisons send you the name of the driver/ the make of the van it is coming in and the REG."

my brother in law is a black cabbie and he has never been given any guidance or anything on not carrying out such crimes against passengers..

not read the actual article to be fair but it does sound iffy that they feel they need to do so for their employees..

and yes any driver can after being crb checked etc carry out an offence, that goes without saying..

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over a year ago


"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.

Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.

I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.

This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services."
I also like uber!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"

There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards.

Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear.

That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning..

Lots of taxi firms give the same advice, it is just basic common sense.....even Morrisons send you the name of the driver/ the make of the van it is coming in and the REG.

my brother in law is a black cabbie and he has never been given any guidance or anything on not carrying out such crimes against passengers..

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I meant passengers riding in the taxi have had common sense advice for years. Now it has got better with smart phones you know what car will be picking you up etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There is nothing to fear or dislike about Uber and for the paying public it is a massive step forwards.

Uber management obviously disagree with you as they have printed a checklist on how not to get raped in their taxis. So there is I something to fear.

That any company feels it needs to issue 'guidance' in relation to something as potentially serious as rape is a tad concerning..

Lots of taxi firms give the same advice, it is just basic common sense.....even Morrisons send you the name of the driver/ the make of the van it is coming in and the REG.

my brother in law is a black cabbie and he has never been given any guidance or anything on not carrying out such crimes against passengers..

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I meant passengers riding in the taxi have had common sense advice for years. Now it has got better with smart phones you know what car will be picking you up etc"

I always thought that was more to cut down on unlicensed cabs and people arguing over cabs that they think have come to pick them up (granted more likely to happen at closing time than Morrisons!) rather than to protect them from being attacked by the driver

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.

Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.

I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.

This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.

All very well if what you say is true.

Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.

To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's

Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license.

And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders. "

I am struggling to get to Uber UK website from over here but I do know that you have to have a private hire licence to be an Uber driver.

The Court case is about metering and the definition of metering. When meters came out there was no such thing as mobile GPS technology.

The Hackney drivers would get little support from the general public about supporting metering so they use misinformation and fear to spread alarm about Uber.

Instead of trying to stick with the old ways. All cab operations should be pushing for more deregulation across the board instead of trying to keep outdated regulations that really help no one.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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I always thought that was more to cut down on unlicensed cabs and people arguing over cabs that they think have come to pick them up (granted more likely to happen at closing time than Morrisons!) rather than to protect them from being attacked by the driver

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Yes, as unlicensed cabs were not safe to get into for various reasons, one of which could be sexual assault.

For the rest, sometimes I think I am speaking with fork tongue

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"If what you say is true Mt Polk I am sure it can all be checked and it be shut down

It is in the courts at the moment. "

That is about the use of a taximeters isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Used Uber many times, as good as any other taxi firm. Black cab drivers near me are worried about it, but they don't appear to have an alternative to compete.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If what you say is true Mt Polk I am sure it can all be checked and it be shut down

It is in the courts at the moment.

That is about the use of a taximeters isn't it?"

You are correct.

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over a year ago


"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.

Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.

I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.

This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.

All very well if what you say is true.

Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.

To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's

Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license.

And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders.

I am struggling to get to Uber UK website from over here but I do know that you have to have a private hire licence to be an Uber driver.

The Court case is about metering and the definition of metering. When meters came out there was no such thing as mobile GPS technology.

The Hackney drivers would get little support from the general public about supporting metering so they use misinformation and fear to spread alarm about Uber.

Instead of trying to stick with the old ways. All cab operations should be pushing for more deregulation across the board instead of trying to keep outdated regulations that really help no one."

By regulations do you mean checks too see if the driver & vehicle are suitable ?

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.

Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.

I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.

This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.

All very well if what you say is true.

Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.

To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's

Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license.

And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders.

I am struggling to get to Uber UK website from over here but I do know that you have to have a private hire licence to be an Uber driver.

The Court case is about metering and the definition of metering. When meters came out there was no such thing as mobile GPS technology.

The Hackney drivers would get little support from the general public about supporting metering so they use misinformation and fear to spread alarm about Uber.

Instead of trying to stick with the old ways. All cab operations should be pushing for more deregulation across the board instead of trying to keep outdated regulations that really help no one.

By regulations do you mean checks too see if the driver & vehicle are suitable ? "

The car must be road legal, new and in a clean and roadworthy condition. Everyone that I have been in has been far better than any UK private hire car. The driver must have a private hire licence anyway - just as any private hire driver must have.

The regulation is more about de regulating hackneys. There is no longer a need to have to study like they do. Modern technology has made it redundant, why hang on to the past?

You clearly have an agenda and an unwillingness to embrace good change brought about by technology. Uber is here and it will explode in the UK as it gas in the US. Stamping your foot and demanding that things stay the same will not achieve anything and neither will making up scare stories about the competition.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

No more from me on this tonight, my Uber car is about to arrive.

Black VW utility, arrive in 7 minutes, drivers name is Alex. Estimated fare to the Lincoln Mall is $8. Thank you for using Uber, don't forget to rate your driver.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think I'd rather have a driver who has the knowledge and more stringent checks. That's got to be better than attempting to save 2/6 on a fare.

Uber drivers have background checks and they have to have modern four door cars. They use traffic monitoring GPS and unless they retain high user ratings, they get excluded.

I have used uber cars five times in the last week, the service is easy to use, no tipping is allowed let alone accepted and all the cars have been spotlessly clean and the drivers engaging, pleasant and respectful.

This is a long overdue revolution for taxi services.

All very well if what you say is true.

Uber drivers are not subject to stringent background checks. This has been proved time and again. Uber are banned in many countries throughout the world and many in Europe because of the lack of background checks leading to sexual assaults on passengers. There is currently high court proceedings against uber in London because of their shady practices.

To apply for uber all drivers must have a tfl private hire license and full dbs check's

Not true. In some instances just a letter from your embassy stating you are of good character is enough to get you an uber license.

And as has been said above , although if you have had a full DBS check it is then up to uber management what they do with the information received. And it has been proven in many instances that uber have employed rapists , drug dealers and other ex offenders.

I am struggling to get to Uber UK website from over here but I do know that you have to have a private hire licence to be an Uber driver.

The Court case is about metering and the definition of metering. When meters came out there was no such thing as mobile GPS technology.

The Hackney drivers would get little support from the general public about supporting metering so they use misinformation and fear to spread alarm about Uber.

Instead of trying to stick with the old ways. All cab operations should be pushing for more deregulation across the board instead of trying to keep outdated regulations that really help no one.

By regulations do you mean checks too see if the driver & vehicle are suitable ?

The car must be road legal, new and in a clean and roadworthy condition. Everyone that I have been in has been far better than any UK private hire car. The driver must have a private hire licence anyway - just as any private hire driver must have.

The regulation is more about de regulating hackneys. There is no longer a need to have to study like they do. Modern technology has made it redundant, why hang on to the past?

You clearly have an agenda and an unwillingness to embrace good change brought about by technology. Uber is here and it will explode in the UK as it gas in the US. Stamping your foot and demanding that things stay the same will not achieve anything and neither will making up scare stories about the competition."

Point to one thing I've made up.

Uber cabs in London do not have to be new.

Your are basing your uber experience from using it in a foreign country and have no knowledge of how the operate in London.

Hopefully you are not travelling at peak times as that eight dollar fare is liable to surge.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"If what you say is true Mt Polk I am sure it can all be checked and it be shut down

It is in the courts at the moment.

That is about the use of a taximeters isn't it?"

Are they in court for operating illegally with letters from their mates to get a licence too as I thought thats what I was answering you about?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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Hopefully you are not travelling at peak times as that eight dollar fare is liable to surge. "

It does that in black cabs too if you are sat in traffic in the rush hour?

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By *aro7Man
over a year ago

wickford

What people seem to be forgetting is that now there are near 77,000 mini cabs in london the streets are now more congested than ever,,,,,,,,,,,uber is as we know is not operating correctly within Londons taxi laws and when following a sat nav you are still driving blind,,,,,,,,,because these people have no idea where they are heading,,,,,,,,,the whole affair is a shambles,,,,,it's a disgrace to london, it's a disgrace to the uk's government with regards to fair business practice, progression is good to a point, but sometimes progression is not always the right move,,,,,,in thank you. Peace.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Hopefully you are not travelling at peak times as that eight dollar fare is liable to surge.

It does that in black cabs too if you are sat in traffic in the rush hour?"

It doesn't. There is no such thing as surge pricing in London black cabs.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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My mistake, I thought the clock keeps ticking over when sat in traffic, which would be more traffic in rush hour, so would mean a bigger fare.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My mistake, I thought the clock keeps ticking over when sat in traffic, which would be more traffic in rush hour, so would mean a bigger fare."

Yes the clock does keep ticking over but at a lower rate. A cabbie wouldn't earn much if the meter shut down while he was sat in traffic.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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To be fair it is irrelevant about why cabbies wouldn't earn as much if it didn't happen, the fact you will probably earn a bigger fare in the rush hour is the issue.

Now I don't obviously know to what extent black cabs and other taxi firms get by way of more fare, but it seems both would be getting it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To be fair it is irrelevant about why cabbies wouldn't earn as much if it didn't happen, the fact you will probably earn a bigger fare in the rush hour is the issue.

Now I don't obviously know to what extent black cabs and other taxi firms get by way of more fare, but it seems both would be getting it."

If a black cab is sat in traffic the driver is earning less than if it was moving. If you are travelling at less than a few miles an hour the meter goes on waiting time. So if you are crawling along you actually earn less.

Surge pricing on uber is completely different. It can charge up to ten times the quoted price for a journey at busy teams.

But the main difference is this money is debited straight from your account so you can't query it. There is no phone number to contact anyone to complain. They've got your money and you can't speak to anyone to complain.

In a black cab the price is there for you to see. If the meter is getting a bit pricey for you you can deal with it there and then. The driver doesn't have your money until you give it to him. If you are unhappy with the fare there is a number displayed in the cab for you to ring there and then if you wish.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This is such an "English" debate. Fear of change and an assumption that change will be bad.

It is an undisputed fact that a Hackney will charge you more than a private hire for the same journey at rush hour because the meter still ticks. The argument now is that Uber will charge more ... Up to ten times more... Really? Scare me more..

Strikes me that scaremongering is a poor way to get a point across. "

How is stating facts scaremongering ?

And black cabs are not more expensive. This is not an undisputed fact all. You just made it up to suit your argument.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Uber briefly charged its users in downtown Sydney a minimum $100 to escape an armed hostage crisis, a result of automatic surge pricing meant to get more drivers online.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"This is such an "English" debate. Fear of change and an assumption that change will be bad.

It is an undisputed fact that a Hackney will charge you more than a private hire for the same journey at rush hour because the meter still ticks. The argument now is that Uber will charge more ... Up to ten times more... Really? Scare me more..

Strikes me that scaremongering is a poor way to get a point across.

How is stating facts scaremongering ?

And black cabs are not more expensive. This is not an undisputed fact all. You just made it up to suit your argument. "

Of course they are. The meter still runs in traffic. As for Ubers surge pricing at high demand times you get a notification on your phone and a price estimate before the app connects you to a driver.

Let's face it. The days of the Hackney are coming to an end so why not embrace the change that is coming?

You state that you have not made anything up to sway your argument, but you have said that anyone with a letter from an Embassy can be a driver but that is not true, they still need a private hire licence and all that goes with it. You have also said that surge pricing at up to ten times can be applied without your knowledge. This is also not true because the price estimate is provided before you even speak to a driver.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This is such an "English" debate. Fear of change and an assumption that change will be bad.

It is an undisputed fact that a Hackney will charge you more than a private hire for the same journey at rush hour because the meter still ticks. The argument now is that Uber will charge more ... Up to ten times more... Really? Scare me more..

Strikes me that scaremongering is a poor way to get a point across.

How is stating facts scaremongering ?

And black cabs are not more expensive. This is not an undisputed fact all. You just made it up to suit your argument.

Of course they are. The meter still runs in traffic. As for Ubers surge pricing at high demand times you get a notification on your phone and a price estimate before the app connects you to a driver.

Let's face it. The days of the Hackney are coming to an end so why not embrace the change that is coming?

You state that you have not made anything up to sway your argument, but you have said that anyone with a letter from an Embassy can be a driver but that is not true, they still need a private hire licence and all that goes with it. You have also said that surge pricing at up to ten times can be applied without your knowledge. This is also not true because the price estimate is provided before you even speak to a driver. "

Now you are making things up. Where have I said they charge without your knowledge ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This is such an "English" debate. Fear of change and an assumption that change will be bad.

It is an undisputed fact that a Hackney will charge you more than a private hire for the same journey at rush hour because the meter still ticks. The argument now is that Uber will charge more ... Up to ten times more... Really? Scare me more..

Strikes me that scaremongering is a poor way to get a point across.

How is stating facts scaremongering ?

And black cabs are not more expensive. This is not an undisputed fact all. You just made it up to suit your argument.

Of course they are. The meter still runs in traffic. As for Ubers surge pricing at high demand times you get a notification on your phone and a price estimate before the app connects you to a driver.

Let's face it. The days of the Hackney are coming to an end so why not embrace the change that is coming?

You state that you have not made anything up to sway your argument, but you have said that anyone with a letter from an Embassy can be a driver but that is not true, they still need a private hire licence and all that goes with it. You have also said that surge pricing at up to ten times can be applied without your knowledge. This is also not true because the price estimate is provided before you even speak to a driver. "

And because a meter is running it doesn't make it more expensive.

Time and again we are told that a similar journey in a black cab is a lot cheaper than an uber ride.

As you like saying. I am basing this on real life experience.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

I am out of this thread. Waste of time arguing a point with someone who argues an agenda and twists the facts to suit the agenda.

Uber policies can be found on the Uber website and this covers car and driver regulations. Hackney drivers are just trying to protect their income and that can be understood, but fighting the fight with misinformation will just cause them to lose the fight faster.

The change is coming and if it is anything like the United States, the face of taxi services in the UK will be unrecognisable within two years.

No more from me on this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I am out of this thread. Waste of time arguing a point with someone who argues an agenda and twists the facts to suit the agenda.

Uber policies can be found on the Uber website and this covers car and driver regulations. Hackney drivers are just trying to protect their income and that can be understood, but fighting the fight with misinformation will just cause them to lose the fight faster.

The change is coming and if it is anything like the United States, the face of taxi services in the UK will be unrecognisable within two years.

No more from me on this."

Please just point me in the direction of misinformation. I have answered every point with facts.

And can you give me a number so I can ring uber to query anything ? No you can't , because there isn't one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are people getting all pissy about uber? It's a service where you get into a strangers car and they drive you somewhere, isn't that every taxi service ever? You're no more likely to get sexed in the butt by an uber driver than any other taxi service. People are just scared because it's relatively new

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull


"I am out of this thread. Waste of time arguing a point with someone who argues an agenda and twists the facts to suit the agenda.

Uber policies can be found on the Uber website and this covers car and driver regulations. Hackney drivers are just trying to protect their income and that can be understood, but fighting the fight with misinformation will just cause them to lose the fight faster.

The change is coming and if it is anything like the United States, the face of taxi services in the UK will be unrecognisable within two years.

No more from me on this."

Coming in to this thread as late as I am, do you really think that there will be vast change to the UK taxi scene in two years??

Are you saying that 20,000 black taxis in London will be swept away? Are you saying that the fleets of black style cabs in every major UK city will be affected?

Yes, there are arguments on all sides. UBER has its supporters and its detractors too, but there are flaws in its operations and it doesn't mean that just because it has been a success elsewhere that it will be an automatic success across the UK.

Even as a male, given the choice of cabs, give me a black cab style vehicle every time ss I know the driver has been vetted and assessed plus I know what I am getting!

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby

Well the taxi firms we have here where I live obviously compete against each other and if I can help it I won,t use A taxi unless essential but the local Firm I will and use more than others Has Always been a good service they often Come earlier than asked to so it pays (not out the pocket) to be ready before That time you book them, I don,t buy the Local evening papers so I could miss news on any reported attacks in local taxi,s, I would say The biggest majority of drivers are of Asian origin, Indian mainly they cover Large area,s and do the communitys a Service, they work long hours Through The night and have to deal with Unsavioury passengers, pub tipping Time along with late night/early Morning people comeing out of night clubs many pi**ed up being sick on a weekly basis at times along with all The abuse that comes, I saw 6 years more or less of that in my night clubbing years most weekends when in Town, 30 years later I bet little Has Changed when in that environment still,And yes then there were taxi Drivers who would not turn down a woman who was feeling Intoxicated or call it whatever you like but not rape In the back seat which will still Happen today no doubt.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Is it true that ÜBER are registered in Brussels to avoid tax and are taking on more than 1000 drivers per month?

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over a year ago

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over a year ago


"Is it true that ÜBER are registered in Brussels to avoid tax and are taking on more than 1000 drivers per month?

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Yes , uber are registered in Holland as a transport company so are only liable to a rate of 6% tax there. Interestingly they are registered as a technology company here but claim they are non domicile.

Also many of their drivers are so poorly paid that they are claiming benefits to top up their income. So a double whammy.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"To be fair it is irrelevant about why cabbies wouldn't earn as much if it didn't happen, the fact you will probably earn a bigger fare in the rush hour is the issue.

Now I don't obviously know to what extent black cabs and other taxi firms get by way of more fare, but it seems both would be getting it.

If a black cab is sat in traffic the driver is earning less than if it was moving. If you are travelling at less than a few miles an hour the meter goes on waiting time. So if you are crawling along you actually earn less.

Surge pricing on uber is completely different. It can charge up to ten times the quoted price for a journey at busy teams.

But the main difference is this money is debited straight from your account so you can't query it. "

I thought they send you a price of how much a fare is going to cost before you say yes to the taxi?

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over a year ago

My daughters were taught from age 14 a very simple way to avoid any taxi trouble.

They photograph the taxi number plate and licence...then text it to friend or to parents.

They make sure the driver knows they have done it.....cast iron! Never hade anything other than VERY courteous drivers.

It isn't rocket science.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To be fair it is irrelevant about why cabbies wouldn't earn as much if it didn't happen, the fact you will probably earn a bigger fare in the rush hour is the issue.

Now I don't obviously know to what extent black cabs and other taxi firms get by way of more fare, but it seems both would be getting it.

If a black cab is sat in traffic the driver is earning less than if it was moving. If you are travelling at less than a few miles an hour the meter goes on waiting time. So if you are crawling along you actually earn less.

Surge pricing on uber is completely different. It can charge up to ten times the quoted price for a journey at busy teams.

But the main difference is this money is debited straight from your account so you can't query it.

I thought they send you a price of how much a fare is going to cost before you say yes to the taxi?"

An estimate.

You can always turn it down. But once the journey is undertaken the money is debited and you can't reverse this process. However the actual price may be higher than the estimate depending which route the driver takes. But the money will still leave your account.

You have no phone number to complain to if you are unhappy with the service.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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I have googled and googled since you started this thread and seen no mention of that or a few things you have said to be honest. As everyone knows most people make sure negative reviews are said when they get bad service, so it does seem a surprise I didn't find any although I obviously could have been looking in the wrong place.

Either way, minicabs normally have to be licensed too and drivers have to have badges etc the same as Black cabs, so if this company hasn't complied with the rules of what taxi's have to do to drive on the roads then it has to be down to the licensing authority to clamp down on it.

Most taxi firms have taximeters too now and not just black cabs so I can't figure out that fight either.

I do think black cabs in London are part of the fixtures and fittings though, and although obviously competition is good for the customers, it would be a shame if they were out priced so much that Black cabs are no more.

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over a year ago


"I have googled and googled since you started this thread and seen no mention of that or a few things you have said to be honest. As everyone knows most people make sure negative reviews are said when they get bad service, so it does seem a surprise I didn't find any although I obviously could have been looking in the wrong place.

Either way, minicabs normally have to be licensed too and drivers have to have badges etc the same as Black cabs, so if this company hasn't complied with the rules of what taxi's have to do to drive on the roads then it has to be down to the licensing authority to clamp down on it.

Most taxi firms have taximeters too now and not just black cabs so I can't figure out that fight either.

I do think black cabs in London are part of the fixtures and fittings though, and although obviously competition is good for the customers, it would be a shame if they were out priced so much that Black cabs are no more.

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What is it you are looking for ruggers , bad reviews on uber ? Because I can post many links to them.

The way they have over charged customers , because I can post many links to them.

Anything else I have posted that you can't find information on let me know and I'll post links to them.

Or why don't you ring uber and query anything you don't understand. Oh no you can't as they don't have a landline. One of the basic requirements for a cab firm to operate in London. But they have managed to get around this as well.

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over a year ago


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Most taxi firms have taximeters too now and not just black cabs so I can't figure out that fight either.

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The use of meters in taxis in London is strictly regulated. Prices are set by TFL. uber have come in and said they are not using a meter to calculate fares when they obviously are. If the higher court rules that the device they are using to calculate fares is in fact a meter then they would have been operating illegally in London fir three years.

You can't have a set of laws that everyone has to obey but when a 50 billion dollar company turn up you can wave them laws. How is that fair ?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Or why don't you ring uber and query anything you don't understand. . "

lol maybe time for me to bow out

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over a year ago


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Or why don't you ring uber and query anything you don't understand. .

lol maybe time for me to bow out "

Have I bored you into submission as well ? Mrs P gave up listening to me months ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We use Uber whenever we want a cab in Manchester and our kids use them too when they are coming home in the early hours.

We have had no problem with them whatsoever.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

I have always strived to use licensed taxis whichever City I have been in. I have used the various taxi apps in London although due to the geography in central London making it very difficult. I do have an über account which I have ceased to use due to colleagues bad experiences with drivers getting lost, taking the wrong route and rigging the surge pricing.

The last straw was the FBI investigation into customers accounts being cloned and funds being redirected to terrorist organisations including Isis.

All this information has been reported in the mainstream press in this country.

My latest research has turned up this.

After the prime minister announced yesterday that after Fifa he will personally clamp down on corruption in business,,,, so his 2 best friends are head of uber UK and head of uber operations and pr, and the Tory party qc is his friend confidant and qc of uber. So David Cameron cannot make judgments, consultation, decisions, opinions, and any business as regards to taxi and private hire in the United Kingdom .

If he does it is now without prejudice a conflict of interest.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"

Or why don't you ring uber and query anything you don't understand. .

lol maybe time for me to bow out

Have I bored you into submission as well ? Mrs P gave up listening to me months ago. "

No not bored, sometimes you get to a point where you think nothing anyone says will make any difference so I bow out of the discussion

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By *neplusserMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

From a customer point of view I like that Uber is here. I welcome the competition as it will push regular taxi firms to up their game.

Too many times I've called questioning where my taxi was to be fobbed off with the "it'll be a few minutes" line.

It seems to be a success in Birmingham so far and I'm all for giving consumers more choice.

No one is being forced to use Uber so if you disagree with it simply continue to use your more traditional method. I use both regular and Uber taxis when it suites me.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I see Uber was featured on Watchdog this week as bank accounts are being hacked. It's not clear whether the problem is at Uber's end or with each of the individuals.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Whenever i use in Far East it always triggers bank security alert.

PITA!!!

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over a year ago


"I see Uber was featured on Watchdog this week as bank accounts are being hacked. It's not clear whether the problem is at Uber's end or with each of the individuals.

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Ubers accounts were hacked. Hundreds of people were getting charged for bogus journeys. Account details were being sold on the dark web for £1 a go.

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over a year ago


"Let's start again shall we.

Interesting article in cosmopolitan.

Surely the best advise would be not to get in an uber taxi. "

So, black cabs rip you off & Uber rips them right off!

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over a year ago


"

Most taxi firms have taximeters too now and not just black cabs so I can't figure out that fight either.

The use of meters in taxis in London is strictly regulated. Prices are set by TFL. uber have come in and said they are not using a meter to calculate fares when they obviously are. If the higher court rules that the device they are using to calculate fares is in fact a meter then they would have been operating illegally in London fir three years.

You can't have a set of laws that everyone has to obey but when a 50 billion dollar company turn up you can wave them laws. How is that fair ? "
.Big business screwing over everyone again with yet more corruption and bribery.

Magna carta anyone!

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over a year ago


"I have always strived to use licensed taxis whichever City I have been in. I have used the various taxi apps in London although due to the geography in central London making it very difficult. I do have an über account which I have ceased to use due to colleagues bad experiences with drivers getting lost, taking the wrong route and rigging the surge pricing.

The last straw was the FBI investigation into customers accounts being cloned and funds being redirected to terrorist organisations including Isis.

All this information has been reported in the mainstream press in this country.

My latest research has turned up this.

After the prime minister announced yesterday that after Fifa he will personally clamp down on corruption in business,,,, so his 2 best friends are head of uber UK and head of uber operations and pr, and the Tory party qc is his friend confidant and qc of uber. So David Cameron cannot make judgments, consultation, decisions, opinions, and any business as regards to taxi and private hire in the United Kingdom .

If he does it is now without prejudice a conflict of interest. "
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I'd have never have believed that until you wrote it....

Cameron has friends

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By *AJANCouple
over a year ago

Lisbon


"And one of the UK's worse sexual predators was John worboys, a black cab driver "

Was waiting got someone to mention that one

J

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By *appyguy17Man
over a year ago

walthamstow

Surely if you're a woman late at night you want to know that the guy who's taking you home half pissed is safe and reliable......and he has being CRB checked and is your best bet of getting home safely.....

It cannot be right that a country who has made safe and reliable a hallmark of Britishness....should let anyone who has any sort of banger and who is not CRB checked be allowed to take vunerable girls home (some under the influence of alcohol)late at night.....

I would put safety before cheap !!!

Crazy situation.....

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By *issyfaggotfayeTV/TS
over a year ago

Bolton

i wish they'd stop raping my phone of their pigging adverts!

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over a year ago

My latest research has turned up this. After the prime minister announced yesterday that after Fifa he will personally clamp down on corruption in business,,,, so his 2 best friends are head of uber UK and head of uber operations and pr, and the Tory party qc is his friend confidant and qc of uber. So David Cameron cannot make judgments, consultation, decisions, opinions, and any business as regards to taxi and private hire in the United Kingdom . If he does it is now without prejudice a conflict of interest.

What, - so the PM is associated with corruption now?

No, never, I won't hear of it!!

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By *ts smeeeeMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

Just use a local private hire number

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are the drivers British or foreign?

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By *aitinkCouple
over a year ago

York

This all may be moot - Uber have just bought a major mapping company (similar to Google maps) and serious robotics technology as well as a senior Google mapping guru - the money is on Uber introducing driverless taxis as soon as practically possible.

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