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MP's proposed 10% pay rise - does it seem fair? vol 2

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

Heard they rejected it. Though it was a 10 second news bite last night, amongst everything else...?

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

dammed if they do, dammed if they don't......

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

dont know - I usually get this stuff completely fucking wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am not sure if they have. I think the issue is, that to Joe Public - on one hand they are saying we need to cut public spending, fairly severely. It does need doing, but it doesn't go down well at the same time that they give themselves, an inflation busting pay rise!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I must admit that I did enjoy the previous thread. Not so much for the cut and thrust of debate, minds are rarely changed but I did enjoy the naivete of the belief that if you pay people enough they become incorruptible and would attract only the talented. It was touching.

Pay people a million pounds a year, a month, a week and the corruption continues. Power begets power, money begets money, corruption begets corruption. It is human nature.

But I did enjoy the comments. It brought back memories of Peter Pan, enduring childhood, mom and apple pie .

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

hmm there is nothing in the headlines - soooo maybe, I ummm just errrr - imagined it, how odd. Sorry.

It may have been one MP saying they didn't want it - but pretty sure it was 'MP's reject the pay rise'. Nevermind.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"I am not sure if they have. I think the issue is, that to Joe Public - on one hand they are saying we need to cut public spending, fairly severely. It does need doing, but it doesn't go down well at the same time that they give themselves, an inflation busting pay rise! "

When will people understand MPs have not given themselves a rise, that has been decided by an independant body.

Nothing to do with MPs.

Until people understand that simply fact they will not understand anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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When will people understand MPs have not given themselves a rise, that has been decided by an independant body.

Nothing to do with MPs.

Until people understand that simply fact they will not understand anything"

Guess what. For the most part, most people get given a pay rise / pay cut by an independent / non independent body - their employer.

The pay re_iew body and their terms of reference are man made. They have not been carved into stone by divine intervention. They can be changed to reflect the conditions of the time. It's called flexible working and seeing as we are all in this together (though not necessarily caused by all of us) then the sadly lacking leadership of Cameron should come to the fore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was on news a few days ago , they don't decide what rise they get as it's an independent body . Don't know if they can refuse it but the last pay rise was 11% and the public sector got 1% . So no they shouldn't get a pay rise or any bonuses use the money for police , nurses , fire officer and teaching , infact take money off MPs and put them on the minimum wage

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

I have to admit I would rather pay them double what they get now and make patronage illegal than continue with the present system where MP's can be hired by the highest bidder to represent them provided they sign the Registrar of members financial interests...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to admit I would rather pay them double what they get now and make patronage illegal than continue with the present system where MP's can be hired by the highest bidder to represent them provided they sign the Registrar of members financial interests..."

Good post. Though *double* may be overdoing it.

Is it just me or is there little difference between the "patronage", "loobying" of MP's whatever you wanna call it and what FIFA have allegedly done?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must admit that I did enjoy the previous thread. Not so much for the cut and thrust of debate, minds are rarely changed but I did enjoy the naivete of the belief that if you pay people enough they become incorruptible and would attract only the talented. It was touching.

But I did enjoy the comments. It brought back memories of Peter Pan, enduring childhood, mom and apple pie ."

And as per usual, comments taken out of context, subtly adding an innocent little word to twist something purely for the purpose of trying to score points.

By way of example to back this up, nobody yesterday said pay rise "would attract only the talented".

Yawn, fucking yawn. I think I'll stay away from this one. Lest I'm called naive for not agreeing with more misquoted comments.

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