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"Out in town this morning and i see a guy in a sleeping bag on the floor, no matter how many times i see people like this it is just horrible. Had a brief chat with him, must of been 20 years old if that, very polite and a lovely lad How do you feel about homeless people..? Depends on the person and reason. Many are there because they refuse to stop drinking and taking drugs so can't go to shelters and try and start improving their lives." Ermmm no, some have lived on the streets for many years and have become entrenched rough sleepers some prefer to live on the streets as its all they know. People with substance misuse can access hostel accommodation as there are some wet hostels around that allow people to drink but often they are put on drink contracts to monitor their drinking. Not all street homeless people have substance misuse issues. | |||
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"Out in town this morning and i see a guy in a sleeping bag on the floor, no matter how many times i see people like this it is just horrible. Had a brief chat with him, must of been 20 years old if that, very polite and a lovely lad How do you feel about homeless people..? Depends on the person and reason. Many are there because they refuse to stop drinking and taking drugs so can't go to shelters and try and start improving their lives. Ermmm no, some have lived on the streets for many years and have become entrenched rough sleepers some prefer to live on the streets as its all they know. People with substance misuse can access hostel accommodation as there are some wet hostels around that allow people to drink but often they are put on drink contracts to monitor their drinking. Not all street homeless people have substance misuse issues. " That would be why I did not say all. | |||
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"I wish I could help in some meaningful way." Got a sofa? Or a spare room? | |||
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"I wish I could help in some meaningful way. Got a sofa? Or a spare room?" And a tenancy contract. | |||
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"Out in town this morning and i see a guy in a sleeping bag on the floor, no matter how many times i see people like this it is just horrible. Had a brief chat with him, must of been 20 years old if that, very polite and a lovely lad How do you feel about homeless people..?" That I don't know their story, and there but for the grace of god go I | |||
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"There are so many reasons people end up in the situation. My heart goes out to everyone of them. It's also important to note that not every homeless person ends up on the street. Lots more including families with children get put in horrific shelters and nasty drug ridden 'hotels' by the local authority because of red tape in the housing process. It's a huge issue. We are often all too quick to judge rather than help " And homeless can mean a lot of different things. I considered myself homeless for a while because I spent two winters (including the icy cold one last year) living in my Dads old house. No heating, no real security, no hot water, mould in my bedroom. It was marginally better than living in my car - at least it had a toilet and a cold shower! | |||
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"Out in town this morning and i see a guy in a sleeping bag on the floor, no matter how many times i see people like this it is just horrible. Had a brief chat with him, must of been 20 years old if that, very polite and a lovely lad How do you feel about homeless people..? That I don't know their story, and there but for the grace of god go I" Agreed. | |||
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"Ermmm no, some have lived on the streets for many years and have become entrenched rough sleepers some prefer to live on the streets as its all they know. People with substance misuse can access hostel accommodation as there are some wet hostels around that allow people to drink but often they are put on drink contracts to monitor their drinking. Not all street homeless people have substance misuse issues. " Having spent 15 years working for a London-based charity that works with homelessness, and 10 of those working directly with drugs/alcohol/mental health, I can say that this comment is pretty close to the mark. There are many reasons why people find themselves on the streets, and as the poster says, not all have substance misuse issues and a hardcore minority do choose to live on the streets. Make no assumptions about why that person is on the streets but giving them money is not the best way to help. Donate to a charity instead. If you sincerely want to get off the streets, there are ways to do so. It may take time but will happen. Oh, and one more thing before I get off my soapbox, bare in mind 'hidden' homelessness - people who are sofa surfing or in unsecure housing. | |||
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"Therr is one guy I see a loy im ny town and if I see him I always run over to burger king and get him a burger and a drink unfortunately im not there as much as before " I did that once in Northampton town centre. I bought a lad in a doorway a big bag of McDonald's. Then saw the cheeky chap trying to sell his bag of burgers and hot apple pies to a queue of people waiting to get in a bar. Budding entrepreneur | |||
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"I was reading that some boroughs of London want to fine homeless people found sleeping in shop doorways etc as aesthetically it makes the place a mess. Fines of up to £100 rising to £1000 if it goes to court! " What a waste of tax payers money | |||
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"I wish I could help in some meaningful way." There are loads of ways you can help - give some time up to a local food bank is a good start. Night shelters often need people to either hand out bedding or serve food. There are forms to complete and DBS checks but it's not too bad. I can't do it regularly, but I just turn up and help now and then and they welcome with open arms. | |||
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"Ermmm no, some have lived on the streets for many years and have become entrenched rough sleepers some prefer to live on the streets as its all they know. People with substance misuse can access hostel accommodation as there are some wet hostels around that allow people to drink but often they are put on drink contracts to monitor their drinking. Not all street homeless people have substance misuse issues. Having spent 15 years working for a London-based charity that works with homelessness, and 10 of those working directly with drugs/alcohol/mental health, I can say that this comment is pretty close to the mark. There are many reasons why people find themselves on the streets, and as the poster says, not all have substance misuse issues and a hardcore minority do choose to live on the streets. Make no assumptions about why that person is on the streets but giving them money is not the best way to help. Donate to a charity instead. If you sincerely want to get off the streets, there are ways to do so. It may take time but will happen. Oh, and one more thing before I get off my soapbox, bare in mind 'hidden' homelessness - people who are sofa surfing or in unsecure housing." Ed Sheering was living on the streets and sofa surfing and he said he got to see life ....maybe he did that to wright better songs ...your right lots of reasons why homeless and giving some money is just adding to drugs and drink if that's there thing . It's not easy one and will not go away so will be on going and I hope things get better. | |||
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"I wish I could help in some meaningful way. There are loads of ways you can help - give some time up to a local food bank is a good start. Night shelters often need people to either hand out bedding or serve food. There are forms to complete and DBS checks but it's not too bad. I can't do it regularly, but I just turn up and help now and then and they welcome with open arms." Yeah, I volunteer for a food bank sometimes, but they don't give food to homeless people. Food banks are for people who have homes and don't have money. You have to go through paperwork (i.e., have an address) to get fed by them. | |||
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"It's just sad whatever the reason. We all have a basic human right to food and shelter regardless of race, creed or colour. If we all lived in a war torn country and fled to another we too would be immigrants. And as for drug abuse and alcohol - these are addictions which in turn are illness's. I fail to believe that anyone as a child thinks - owwwww when I grow up I'm going to be a drug taking alcoholic'. Some people have very few choices in life x" | |||
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"It's just sad whatever the reason. We all have a basic human right to food and shelter regardless of race, creed or colour. If we all lived in a war torn country and fled to another we too would be immigrants. And as for drug abuse and alcohol - these are addictions which in turn are illness's. I fail to believe that anyone as a child thinks - owwwww when I grow up I'm going to be a drug taking alcoholic'. Some people have very few choices in life x" Also bear in mind that it could happen to so many people. We just happen to be lucky. | |||
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"Working in London, I see homeless people every day. Unfortunately like every good cause there isn't enough money and resources. However over the last two to three years there has been a big change. Near Charing Cross there is some type of shelter so you get quite large groups in the area 24/7. These groups use to be made up of predominantly white English males. Now it is over 50% foreign speaking males and a few more women... You often see vomit, urine and excrement on the pavement... I feel sorry for the people who are there because of mental health issues or escaping abuse but not the economic migrants I'm afraid... " Both are people. How can you be sure the economic migrant hasn't got mental health issues? The homeless charities working around the big London termini work closely with the local authorities to repatriate UK citizens back to their own local authority area. There's been a huge increase of people coming from other parts of the country to London recently. They are able to place them somewhere much easier than the non-status migrant so they move off the streets quicker. Several agencies work together to "sweep up" economic migrants and ship them back. It takes longer and there often isn't anywhere to put them in the meantime. | |||
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"There are so many reasons people end up in the situation. My heart goes out to everyone of them. It's also important to note that not every homeless person ends up on the street. Lots more including families with children get put in horrific shelters and nasty drug ridden 'hotels' by the local authority because of red tape in the housing process. It's a huge issue. We are often all too quick to judge rather than help " That's my story. We lived in hostel accommodation for a while when I was growing up. It was not a fun-filled time in our lives. The long waiting lists for housing now mean that temporary accommodation like this, which costs a fortune, is being used for years instead of months. | |||
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"I was reading that some boroughs of London want to fine homeless people found sleeping in shop doorways etc as aesthetically it makes the place a mess. Fines of up to £100 rising to £1000 if it goes to court! " Yep, it's disgusting. There was more a sinister programme before the Olympics. The bushes were cut back so that people sleeping rough had no shelter. They were rounded up and moved on, put on trains out of London even, so that London would look good for the world press. | |||
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"Ermmm no, some have lived on the streets for many years and have become entrenched rough sleepers some prefer to live on the streets as its all they know. People with substance misuse can access hostel accommodation as there are some wet hostels around that allow people to drink but often they are put on drink contracts to monitor their drinking. Not all street homeless people have substance misuse issues. Having spent 15 years working for a London-based charity that works with homelessness, and 10 of those working directly with drugs/alcohol/mental health, I can say that this comment is pretty close to the mark. There are many reasons why people find themselves on the streets, and as the poster says, not all have substance misuse issues and a hardcore minority do choose to live on the streets. Make no assumptions about why that person is on the streets but giving them money is not the best way to help. Donate to a charity instead. If you sincerely want to get off the streets, there are ways to do so. It may take time but will happen. Oh, and one more thing before I get off my soapbox, bare in mind 'hidden' homelessness - people who are sofa surfing or in unsecure housing." | |||
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"It's a complex problem and, in London at least, there are various ways of local & central g'ment 'cooking the books' to play down homeless figures. You will note, for instance, that comparatively few homeless people are found in central London thesedays - that's because they've been pushed to the outer boroughs. They're still there but you have to look harder. " Pushed out of tourist spots basically. Government move. I give to a homeless charity and try and buy food and hot drinks for the ones I see if I'm not rushing about. Also have a chat if I can. Glad the hidden homeless was mentioned too as for many homeless, they ran out of sofas and options and that's why they're sleeping rough. | |||
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"I was reading that some boroughs of London want to fine homeless people found sleeping in shop doorways etc as aesthetically it makes the place a mess. Fines of up to £100 rising to £1000 if it goes to court! Yep, it's disgusting. There was more a sinister programme before the Olympics. The bushes were cut back so that people sleeping rough had no shelter. They were rounded up and moved on, put on trains out of London even, so that London would look good for the world press. " They sent them to birmingham | |||
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"I was reading that some boroughs of London want to fine homeless people found sleeping in shop doorways etc as aesthetically it makes the place a mess. Fines of up to £100 rising to £1000 if it goes to court! Yep, it's disgusting. There was more a sinister programme before the Olympics. The bushes were cut back so that people sleeping rough had no shelter. They were rounded up and moved on, put on trains out of London even, so that London would look good for the world press. They sent them to birmingham " They did indeed, and points further north. Then they all got on trains or hitched back and we had a spike of street homeless again, after funding had been reduced as the charities didn't have as many people coming through the doors for the 6 months being measured. Funny that. | |||
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"I was reading that some boroughs of London want to fine homeless people found sleeping in shop doorways etc as aesthetically it makes the place a mess. Fines of up to £100 rising to £1000 if it goes to court! Yep, it's disgusting. There was more a sinister programme before the Olympics. The bushes were cut back so that people sleeping rough had no shelter. They were rounded up and moved on, put on trains out of London even, so that London would look good for the world press. They sent them to birmingham They did indeed, and points further north. Then they all got on trains or hitched back and we had a spike of street homeless again, after funding had been reduced as the charities didn't have as many people coming through the doors for the 6 months being measured. Funny that. " It's always that and around when the national rough sleepers count is taking place... | |||
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"Homeless don't deserve to be treated the way they do when imagrants have a life of luxury, mps are getting a 10% pay rise this year supposedly x" Immigrants DO NOT HAVE A LIFE OF LUXURY..... Or can you provide evidence to prove evidence? | |||
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"Homeless don't deserve to be treated the way they do when imagrants have a life of luxury, mps are getting a 10% pay rise this year supposedly x Immigrants DO NOT HAVE A LIFE OF LUXURY..... Or can you provide evidence to prove evidence? " Doh, last word was meant to say otherwise. | |||
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"I was reading that some boroughs of London want to fine homeless people found sleeping in shop doorways etc as aesthetically it makes the place a mess. Fines of up to £100 rising to £1000 if it goes to court! What a waste of tax payers money " Where are they going to send the court letters to when they can't pay the fine? | |||
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"If they can't accommodate they are cheating, no exceptions!! Awful isn't it, always get wound up by people complaining about housing developments More needs to be provided, but once read that a homeless person is likely to stay homeless due a lack of daily living skills, such a shame and we are not doing enough for them at all," The new housing developments in my Borough are being built to accommodate people on the housing waiting list or in emergency accommodation. People living on the streets don't get them. Homeless doesn't always mean on a street but single people,especially men are at the back of the emergency accommodation queue as boroughs are desperately trying to accommodate the influx of new residents. | |||
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"Homeless don't deserve to be treated the way they do when imagrants have a life of luxury, mps are getting a 10% pay rise this year supposedly x Immigrants DO NOT HAVE A LIFE OF LUXURY..... Or can you provide evidence to prove evidence? Doh, last word was meant to say otherwise. " | |||
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"I was reading that some boroughs of London want to fine homeless people found sleeping in shop doorways etc as aesthetically it makes the place a mess. Fines of up to £100 rising to £1000 if it goes to court! What a waste of tax payers money Where are they going to send the court letters to when they can't pay the fine?" Exactly! So why do these stupid people waste the money doing it | |||
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"Out in town this morning and i see a guy in a sleeping bag on the floor, no matter how many times i see people like this it is just horrible. Had a brief chat with him, must of been 20 years old if that, very polite and a lovely lad How do you feel about homeless people..? Depends on the person and reason. Many are there because they refuse to stop drinking and taking drugs so can't go to shelters and try and start improving their lives." emmm sorry but nope, my husband was homeless for 4 years before I met him though no fault of his own, he doesn't drink and isn't and has never been addicted to drugs, most homeless people are men between 18 and 50 years old and the because they don't fall within a vulnerable category there is very little help out there for housing and without an address job prospects are few and far between, things spiral and the light at the end of the tunnel gets further away for these people some do turn to drink and drugs but please don't tie everyone with the same brush, next time you walk past a homeless person take a real look at the person, no one knows what is round the corner one day that could be you!!!! Give them a smile it might not do anything for you but for that person it will mean alot | |||
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