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"After a forum post someone made had me thinking this is the definition i have grew up with "Straight to me, means women like men and men like women" or a man meeting a t-girl having his cock sucked is not straight just the same as a woman going down on a woman Or is this now straight
straight in your terms what does it mean?"Exactly as you are saying it! Although like you we have no issues with sexuality, surely the definitions remain the same. | |||
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"or a man meeting a t-girl having his cock sucked is not straight " It depends on the t-girl. Are they someone born in a male identified body who is transitioning to a female identified body? Or are they a man who likes wearing women's clothes? | |||
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"After a forum post someone made had me thinking this is the definition i have grew up with "Straight to me, means women like men and men like women" or a man meeting a t-girl having his cock sucked is not straight just the same as a woman going down on a woman Or is this now straight
straight in your terms what does it mean?
Exactly as you are saying it!
Although like you we have no issues with sexuality, surely the definitions remain the same.
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"or a man meeting a t-girl having his cock sucked is not straight It depends on the t-girl. Are they someone born in a male identified body who is transitioning to a female identified body? Or are they a man who likes wearing women's clothes?" man wearing a dress and wig having his cock sucked? | |||
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"or a man meeting a t-girl having his cock sucked is not straight It depends on the t-girl. Are they someone born in a male identified body who is transitioning to a female identified body? Or are they a man who likes wearing women's clothes? man wearing a dress and wig having his cock sucked?" Lipstick? Could be a deal breaker  | |||
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"I sometimes think that Fab meanings and definitions of words are flexible compared to elsewhere. " we know some men cant get meets so they meet a CD or TGirl instead but i mean as a whole thing not just fab | |||
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"It's all blurred lines these days. Or maybe I'm just being a bit of a Thickie..." ooooooo  i like it lots
almost like the dom (label) | |||
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"After a forum post someone made had me thinking this is the definition i have grew up with "Straight to me, means women like men and men like women" or a man meeting a t-girl having his cock sucked is not straight just the same as a woman going down on a woman Or is this now straight
straight in your terms what does it mean?"Your definition seems, on the whole, quite sound. Why is it important to you? | |||
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" Your definition seems, on the whole, quite sound. Why is it important to you?" it not just throwing it out there | |||
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"It's all blurred lines these days. Or maybe I'm just being a bit of a Thickie..." Did you fail your biology GCSE as well?  | |||
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"if she has legal female gender status then it make's her no different from any other female on his site " agreed | |||
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"if she has legal female gender status then it make's her no different from any other female on his site " This is a perfectly sound definition. As long as she doesn't have a cock and a pair of nuts, then she is a woman as far as we can see. | |||
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"The real definition is black and white... Man + woman = straight Man + man = bi (or gay if they only have sex with men) Woman + woman = bi (or gay if they only have sex with women) Man + transvestite = bi Man + transitioned transsexual = straight." Man + Man + woman = happy | |||
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"What am if a woman fucks me with a strap on???? "Straight, unless you're sucking a cock while she's doing it!... | |||
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"OP, it was some of those thoughts that made me put up the post in the first place, but I decided not to be as serious. I had the conversation with a friend about a TG (male to female) having a relationship with a woman. I would call that lesbian but he questioned whether the original gender being male meant it's really straight. I'm not sure what word I would prefer for straight suggests straightforward/straight and narrow/in a line and that just seems odd for swingers. " this is the point i wanted to see labels to me dont matter to be long as you are honest with yourself | |||
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"After a forum post someone made had me thinking this is the definition i have grew up with "Straight to me, means women like men and men like women" or a man meeting a t-girl having his cock sucked is not straight just the same as a woman going down on a woman Or is this now straight
straight in your terms what does it mean?
Exactly as you are saying it!
Although like you we have no issues with sexuality, surely the definitions remain the same.
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"Why is there so much confusion/debate around what straight is? " Because a lot of gays fantasy is they think there sucking a straight mans cock when obviously their not. x | |||
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"Why is there so much confusion/debate around what straight is? Because a lot of gays fantasy is they think there sucking a straight mans cock when obviously their not. x" | |||
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"Why is there so much confusion/debate around what straight is? Because a lot of gays fantasy is they think there sucking a straight mans cock when obviously their not. x" Really? I wouldn't have even thought of that. Ok cheers. | |||
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"I feel a fraud calling myself bi because I licked a pussy on a few occasions. I don't feel inclined to lick another any time soon and I may never lick hers again. If I suddenly feel irresistibly drawn to women one day I will call myself bisexual. " same here. And I don't think many would argue with us, but I'm sure if we were men who'd sucked a cock in the past it would be an entirely different story. | |||
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"Everyone knows bro jobs don't count..."  . I'm going to be calling them that now.
Nice to see your lovely face again, by the way.
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? " To me it wouldn't as she is no longer a woman... | |||
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? " I would say no but others would say otherwise. The thing the labels don't really cover is that we have sex with individuals. The person and their personality counts as well as the gender or orientation when it comes to the crunch. | |||
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? " That's interesting. .. I'd say the bi tendency is there at the very least. | |||
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? That's interesting. .. I'd say the bi tendency is there at the very least. " Even if you're unaware of the gender reassignment? | |||
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? " I think these things take time. You can't just sew a cock on a babe and call him Larry. Well you can... but the point is that in the beginning she is likely to be a rather confused she... but over time she will adapt to the increase in testosterone and will eventually become more of a boy... then a man. It's a process. It depends at what point along that process you are. Also.. if you wanted to have sex with her when she was a woman, and you lept on her barely weeks after she became a guy... then that would suggest some aspect of you being bi. It's really just about whether you think you're shagging a woman with a cock... or whether you think it's a guy. If ist's the former you're bi... if it's the latter you're not. That'd be my answer... nice complex question though.. got my grey cells twinkling  | |||
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"It really is very clear cut and no shades of grey a straight man likes women only. And that is a biological woman not a man who wants to become a woman and have 2 bags of silicone inserted under his pecs and take hormones to make his voice higher, because a straight man has no need to or wanting too however good the ' girl' may look. And anybody who says different is in denial. I disagree. Someone who has undergone gender reassignment, to me, is no longer the sex they were born with. Does she have periods does she have a 1 in 8 chance of getting breast cancer. The list is endless she is not a biological woman end off and that is what genuine straight guys desire. Its a huge insult to them to suggest otherwise. She may not be a biological woman but on the outside she's a woman and in many cases most men probably wouldn't know. In my mind if you have a vagina (whether you were born with it or if it was surgically created) you are a woman. I suppose if you wanted to be really pedantic then yeah, you have a point but unless you're trying to start a family does it matter? So your basically saying you want to go down on a fake vagina that is dry and has no sexual feeling or being able to come.? Btw I hope your dick isn't over 6" long then because that is as deep as a tranny's fanny goes. Remember to bring some lube as well because unlike a real woman she cant lubricate. x Did I say I wanted anything? No but stop trying to pretend its the same as real woman when clearly its not. I hardly see loads of straight men queuing up that experience now do you. No because like the genuine straight guys on here wouldn't go near me or a any other tranny in a million years because their straight. Get it now hun. "I wouldn't have sex with a transvestite, because I'm straight. A fully transitioned transsexual? Possibly if I liked them enough or was unaware. | |||
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"I think sexuality is a continuum. Some people swim around in the middle and we have some very firmly at either end. I'm selfish, opportunistic and open to suggestions but I don't describe myself as bi per se. I think some people describing themselves as strictly a specific sexuality can sometimes change for one, very specific individual that they find they cannot live without. I know that has been the case for three people in my life. " i dont go by the gender i go by the person, personally i see myself as pansexual | |||
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"It really is very clear cut and no shades of grey a straight man likes women only. And that is a biological woman not a man who wants to become a woman and have 2 bags of silicone inserted under his pecs and take hormones to make his voice higher, because a straight man has no need to or wanting too however good the ' girl' may look. And anybody who says different is in denial. I disagree. Someone who has undergone gender reassignment, to me, is no longer the sex they were born with. Does she have periods does she have a 1 in 8 chance of getting breast cancer. The list is endless she is not a biological woman end off and that is what genuine straight guys desire. Its a huge insult to them to suggest otherwise. She may not be a biological woman but on the outside she's a woman and in many cases most men probably wouldn't know. In my mind if you have a vagina (whether you were born with it or if it was surgically created) you are a woman. I suppose if you wanted to be really pedantic then yeah, you have a point but unless you're trying to start a family does it matter? So your basically saying you want to go down on a fake vagina that is dry and has no sexual feeling or being able to come.? Btw I hope your dick isn't over 6" long then because that is as deep as a tranny's fanny goes. Remember to bring some lube as well because unlike a real woman she cant lubricate. x Did I say I wanted anything? No but stop trying to pretend its the same as real woman when clearly its not. I hardly see loads of straight men queuing up that experience now do you. No because like the genuine straight guys on here wouldn't go near me or a any other tranny in a million years because their straight. Get it now hun.
I wouldn't have sex with a transvestite, because I'm straight.
A fully transitioned transsexual? Possibly if I liked them enough or was unaware."Search blue_ivy on here (think that's the right name) I bet you would :p | |||
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"I think sexuality is a continuum. Some people swim around in the middle and we have some very firmly at either end. I'm selfish, opportunistic and open to suggestions but I don't describe myself as bi per se. I think some people describing themselves as strictly a specific sexuality can sometimes change for one, very specific individual that they find they cannot live without. I know that has been the case for three people in my life. i dont go by the gender i go by the person, personally i see myself as pansexual " Pansexual is possibly one of the most amusing/dodgy terms people have come up with for sexuality. As it literally means all so that should include beastiality and pretty much any other group. | |||
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 but if a guy goes with a person with a penis then they are Bi, simple..
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"After a forum post someone made had me thinking this is the definition i have grew up with "Straight to me, means women like men and men like women" or a man meeting a t-girl having his cock sucked is not straight just the same as a woman going down on a woman Or is this now straight
straight in your terms what does it mean?"Same as you, basically heterosexual, men and women together, anything else is not straight | |||
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"Okay ..gets ready for the trans whipping but if a guy goes with a person with a penis then they are Bi, simple..
"Or gay if they only go with people with a penis... | |||
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"I think sexuality is a continuum. Some people swim around in the middle and we have some very firmly at either end. I'm selfish, opportunistic and open to suggestions but I don't describe myself as bi per se. I think some people describing themselves as strictly a specific sexuality can sometimes change for one, very specific individual that they find they cannot live without. I know that has been the case for three people in my life. i dont go by the gender i go by the person, personally i see myself as pansexual Pansexual is possibly one of the most amusing/dodgy terms people have come up with for sexuality. As it literally means all so that should include beastiality and pretty much any other group." why i fancy men and women and gender isnt important | |||
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? That's interesting. .. I'd say the bi tendency is there at the very least. " But I see a man not a woman | |||
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"I think sexuality is a continuum. Some people swim around in the middle and we have some very firmly at either end. I'm selfish, opportunistic and open to suggestions but I don't describe myself as bi per se. I think some people describing themselves as strictly a specific sexuality can sometimes change for one, very specific individual that they find they cannot live without. I know that has been the case for three people in my life. i dont go by the gender i go by the person, personally i see myself as pansexual Pansexual is possibly one of the most amusing/dodgy terms people have come up with for sexuality. As it literally means all so that should include beastiality and pretty much any other group. why i fancy men and women and gender isnt important" Or species if you want to use the word pan. | |||
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"I'd say straight is all about attraction... and at its extremes its also about revulsion. Much as I try to be open minded about a guy even kissing me, let alone going down under, it just revulses me. That's not social or philosophical revulsion... its pure biology. I'm willing to be open minded... and maybe I'll get more into it the more exposed I become to it... but that's where I'm at right now... it feels as if it's just hard wired into my DNA... pretty much the same as Gays say about their Gayness. We've stopped condescending them by suggesting they may be able to be cured... so I think the same argument can work the other way too. If a guy goes to a glory hole or gets blind d*unk and, unbenownst to him, is blown off by another geezer, or perhaps a transvestite, without knowing it, then it's possible for them to have had a homosexual encounter whilst being completely straight. Just pointing out that its more about the issue of attraction than the sex act itself. Someone who reacts to the news that the girl who just blew them is a dude by smiling and saying oh well is probably leaning towards being bi... whilst someone who immediately runs home to have a prolonged shower is straight lol "And that ladies and Gents is it in a nutshell. Straight is straight not pretending straight but 100% straight. | |||
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? I think these things take time. You can't just sew a cock on a babe and call him Larry. Well you can... but the point is that in the beginning she is likely to be a rather confused she... but over time she will adapt to the increase in testosterone and will eventually become more of a boy... then a man. It's a process. It depends at what point along that process you are. Also.. if you wanted to have sex with her when she was a woman, and you lept on her barely weeks after she became a guy... then that would suggest some aspect of you being bi. It's really just about whether you think you're shagging a woman with a cock... or whether you think it's a guy. If ist's the former you're bi... if it's the latter you're not. That'd be my answer... nice complex question though.. got my grey cells twinkling "If I didn't know her as a woman,I met a man and wanted the man. What if a man met a woman who was born a man and wanted to have sex with her? Does knowing that person has changed gender make you bi? | |||
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"In Fab terms, I am straight... And I have been sucking cocks for nearly 40 years "I went straight (haha) from straight to bisexual without the bicurious bit. I feel I've been robbed of the 'what if?' bit. | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ? "Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely? | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely? "So what are heterosexual people before they have sex with anyone? :p | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely? "or a woman with a woman
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely? "What if you were curious, had a go (maybe just a little sucky or went the whole hog, just to see what it's like) and then decided you didn't like it? | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely?
What if you were curious, had a go (maybe just a little sucky or went the whole hog, just to see what it's like) and then decided you didn't like it?"Try sexual | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely?
What if you were curious, had a go (maybe just a little sucky or went the whole hog, just to see what it's like) and then decided you didn't like it?"You're no longer curious, you've confirmed that you're straight... I think... | |||
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"I think all women should be bi...and invite me along to spectate and finish them off ....just saying "What have you got to offer in terms of "finishing off"? | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely?
So what are heterosexual people before they have sex with anyone? :p"Straight because the desire the opposite sex. | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely?
So what are heterosexual people before they have sex with anyone?
:p"Expert masturbators. | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely?
What if you were curious, had a go (maybe just a little sucky or went the whole hog, just to see what it's like) and then decided you didn't like it?
You're no longer curious, you've confirmed that you're straight...
I think... "I'd say that too but reading some of the above the act of testing your curiosity makes you bi or gay. | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely?
What if you were curious, had a go (maybe just a little sucky or went the whole hog, just to see what it's like) and then decided you didn't like it?"A failure :p | |||
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"Straight = heterosexual Gay = homosexual bi/ bi-curious = bisexual Or am I getting it all mixed up and confused ?
Bi-curious are straight.....if they haven't had sex with a guy, surely?
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then decided you didn't like it?"That depends on how long they were doing for....a few seconds cock in mouth and a sense of horror, then 'straight'.....an hour or so of sucking? That's 'straightish'.....anything longer and bottoms is definately bi-bi-baby to being straight. | |||
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"I sometimes think that Fab meanings and definitions of words are flexible compared to elsewhere. we know some men cant get meets so they meet a CD or TGirl instead but i mean as a whole thing not just fab" Sorry Jacqs, I can't agree with you here. I really can't see that guys get so desperate trying to meet women that they give in and meet CD's or tgirls. | |||
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"Could have sex with a hundred or more women. Have sex with one man or tgirl cos you get d*unk or just simply fancy a change. Have sex with a hundred more women. To me that means straight. Having that one experience then thinking I like that and want more is the difference." That reminds me of the old joke. Do they call me Jones the Housebuilder? No. Do they call me Jones the Roadmaker? No. But you fuck one sheep....... | |||
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"I sometimes think that Fab meanings and definitions of words are flexible compared to elsewhere. we know some men cant get meets so they meet a CD or TGirl instead but i mean as a whole thing not just fab Sorry Jacqs, I can't agree with you here. I really can't see that guys get so desperate trying to meet women that they give in and meet CD's or tgirls." Tbh this. I meet tv or a TS because I like them and find them attractive not because I couldn't get a woman and I'm settling. If it was purely a case of being desperate and not able to get a woman (and I was straight) I'd just get an escort not a tgirl. | |||
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? That's interesting. .. I'd say the bi tendency is there at the very least. Even if you're unaware of the gender reassignment?" To answer your question I read it as said person was ALREADY aware. .. | |||
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? That's interesting. .. I'd say the bi tendency is there at the very least. Even if you're unaware of the gender reassignment? To answer your question I read it as said person was ALREADY aware. .." That doesn't answer my question though, it's just side stepping it. | |||
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"If a woman had an operation to gain a penis and took hormones to make her a he,if I had sex with him would that make me bi? I think these things take time. You can't just sew a cock on a babe and call him Larry. Well you can... but the point is that in the beginning she is likely to be a rather confused she... but over time she will adapt to the increase in testosterone and will eventually become more of a boy... then a man. It's a process. It depends at what point along that process you are. Also.. if you wanted to have sex with her when she was a woman, and you lept on her barely weeks after she became a guy... then that would suggest some aspect of you being bi. It's really just about whether you think you're shagging a woman with a cock... or whether you think it's a guy. If ist's the former you're bi... if it's the latter you're not. That'd be my answer... nice complex question though.. got my grey cells twinkling
If I didn't know her as a woman,I met a man and wanted the man. What if a man met a woman who was born a man and wanted to have sex with her? Does knowing that person has changed gender make you bi? "Just trying to navigate the minefield you're laying down But I'd say you're in some definite grey area stuff there... it really depends. In my case... if the woman appeared a bit blokey and then told me that she had recently been a bloke that might present a bit of a hurdle. However, if she's clearly very feminine and she's well adjusted to being a woman and her sex change was well in the past then it would probably be a hurdle I could overcome. It's an intriguing question. I don't really know if I can answer it... it really would depend on the particular situation and the particular person
You'd be bi if you didn't see what all the fuss and bother was about. Bi is simply the absence of revulsion to the idea of having sex with your own gender. I'd personally love to be bi as it'd open up so many more opportunities for us... so that's why I'm gonna try and work on opening my mind as much as possible. I think there's a chance that an MMF threesome, with the other dude focussed solely on pleasuring Mrs P alongside me, might help me loosen up a little...and no I'm not talking about my arse lol | |||
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"This whole thread has turned me fab straight. Come get me ladies xx" I knew you were straight from the way you keep fabbing my cock pics!! | |||
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"I sometimes think that Fab meanings and definitions of words are flexible compared to elsewhere. we know some men cant get meets so they meet a CD or TGirl instead but i mean as a whole thing not just fab Sorry Jacqs, I can't agree with you here. I really can't see that guys get so desperate trying to meet women that they give in and meet CD's or tgirls. Tbh this. I meet tv or a TS because I like them and find them attractive not because I couldn't get a woman and I'm settling. If it was purely a case of being desperate and not able to get a woman (and I was straight) I'd just get an escort not a tgirl. " And who says tgirls are any easier to get with? I know how many messages I get every day and how many I agree to meet. There are much easier lays on here than me | |||
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"I sometimes think that Fab meanings and definitions of words are flexible compared to elsewhere. we know some men cant get meets so they meet a CD or TGirl instead but i mean as a whole thing not just fab Sorry Jacqs, I can't agree with you here. I really can't see that guys get so desperate trying to meet women that they give in and meet CD's or tgirls. Tbh this. I meet tv or a TS because I like them and find them attractive not because I couldn't get a woman and I'm settling. If it was purely a case of being desperate and not able to get a woman (and I was straight) I'd just get an escort not a tgirl. And who says tgirls are any easier to get with? I know how many messages I get every day and how many I agree to meet. There are much easier lays on here than me "Assuming you haven't ran them all over with your bike :p | |||
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"I sometimes think that Fab meanings and definitions of words are flexible compared to elsewhere. we know some men cant get meets so they meet a CD or TGirl instead but i mean as a whole thing not just fab Sorry Jacqs, I can't agree with you here. I really can't see that guys get so desperate trying to meet women that they give in and meet CD's or Tbh this. I meet tv or a TS because I like them and find them attractive not because I couldn't get a woman and I'm settling. If it was purely a case of being desperate and not able to get a woman (and I was straight) I'd just get an escort not a tgirl. And who says tgirls are any easier to get with? I know how many messages I get every day and how many I agree to meet. There are much easier lays on here than me "I'd be hard for you to get. | |||
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"I'd say straight is all about attraction... and at its extremes its also about revulsion. Much as I try to be open minded about a guy even kissing me, let alone going down under, it just revulses me. That's not social or philosophical revulsion... its pure biology. I'm willing to be open minded... and maybe I'll get more into it the more exposed I become to it... but that's where I'm at right now... it feels as if it's just hard wired into my DNA... pretty much the same as Gays say about their Gayness. We've stopped condescending them by suggesting they may be able to be cured... so I think the same argument can work the other way too. If a guy goes to a glory hole or gets blind d*unk and, unbenownst to him, is blown off by another geezer, or perhaps a transvestite, without knowing it, then it's possible for them to have had a homosexual encounter whilst being completely straight. Just pointing out that its more about the issue of attraction than the sex act itself. Someone who reacts to the news that the girl who just blew them is a dude by smiling and saying oh well is probably leaning towards being bi... whilst someone who immediately runs home to have a prolonged shower is straight lol
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"It really is very clear cut and no shades of grey a straight man likes women only. And that is a biological woman not a man who wants to become a woman and have 2 bags of silicone inserted under his pecs and take hormones to make his voice higher, because a straight man has no need to or wanting too however good the ' girl' may look. And anybody who says different is in denial. I disagree. Someone who has undergone gender reassignment, to me, is no longer the sex they were born with. Does she have periods does she have a 1 in 8 chance of getting breast cancer. The list is endless she is not a biological woman end off and that is what genuine straight guys desire. Its a huge insult to them to suggest otherwise. She may not be a biological woman but on the outside she's a woman and in many cases most men probably wouldn't know. In my mind if you have a vagina (whether you were born with it or if it was surgically created) you are a woman. I suppose if you wanted to be really pedantic then yeah, you have a point but unless you're trying to start a family does it matter? So your basically saying you want to go down on a fake vagina that is dry and has no sexual feeling or being able to come.? Btw I hope your dick isn't over 6" long then because that is as deep as a tranny's fanny goes. Remember to bring some lube as well because unlike a real woman she cant lubricate. x Did I say I wanted anything? No but stop trying to pretend its the same as real woman when clearly its not. I hardly see loads of straight men queuing up that experience now do you. No because like the genuine straight guys on here wouldn't go near me or a any other tranny in a million years because their straight. Get it now hun. "You seem to be quite passive aggressive about gender reasignment.. once the gender is transformed so to speak, the person is that gender as leagally defined. There are plenty of "born women" who have fake boobs and in some cases have surgery on their vaginas including some (rare I know) who have been born without a vagina or part formed vagina and some that need lube. I think the problem is who is doing the defining. . YOU are who you see yourself to be. | |||
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"Hi ime a straight guy but having bi-curious thoughts. After reading a artical in the paper it seems IME not alone in these thoughts. The law is saying that the same sex can marry whitch I have no issues with. In years to come it will be more exceptable. After all a same sex couple now there straight in there own way. Same as a mf couple who are not intrested in the same sex. Just my _iew on it " Your bi curious thoughts.....what does the thought of sucking a cock make you think (if that makes sense).....? | |||
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" Just trying to navigate the minefield you're laying down But I'd say you're in some definite grey area stuff there... it really depends. In my case... if the woman appeared a bit blokey and then told me that she had recently been a bloke that might present a bit of a hurdle. However, if she's clearly very feminine and she's well adjusted to being a woman and her sex change was well in the past then it would probably be a hurdle I could overcome. It's an intriguing question. I don't really know if I can answer it... it really would depend on the particular situation and the particular person
You'd be bi if you didn't see what all the fuss and bother was about. Bi is simply the absence of revulsion to the idea of having sex with your own gender. I'd personally love to be bi as it'd open up so many more opportunities for us... so that's why I'm gonna try and work on opening my mind as much as possible. I think there's a chance that an MMF threesome, with the other dude focussed solely on pleasuring Mrs P alongside me, might help me loosen up a little...and no I'm not talking about my arse lol "Do you feel a need to open yourself up to experimentation? By your own logic if you're straight you're straight. There's nothing wrong with that. In the five years I've been doing this I have met many more women becoming bi than I have in the non-swinging world. A few I have spoken to had never considered it something they would try but felt it was almost a norm here so gave it a go. I get asked to join in with women a lot. I don't know if this greater incidence of bi women is because of men wanting this and then the women enjoying it or because the women always had an inkling to try it. The same doesn't appear to be true of men and there appears to be opprobrium for men testing out being bi. | |||
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"I sometimes think that Fab meanings and definitions of words are flexible compared to elsewhere. we know some men cant get meets so they meet a CD or TGirl instead but i mean as a whole thing not just fab Sorry Jacqs, I can't agree with you here. I really can't see that guys get so desperate trying to meet women that they give in and meet CD's or tgirls. Me: Why did you let him suck your cock? Him: No available pussy. True conversation (not a pm)" Was this conversation about a guy giving up on chasing unavailable pussy then messaging to meet a Tgirl? I'm guessing not. Was it with a guy who was in a sexually charged situation, such as a club, and then didn't resist a Tgirl or a guy sucking him off when he was already mentally or physically already aroused? | |||
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"Do you feel a need to open yourself up to experimentation? By your own logic if you're straight you're straight. There's nothing wrong with that. In the five years I've been doing this I have met many more women becoming bi than I have in the non-swinging world. A few I have spoken to had never considered it something they would try but felt it was almost a norm here so gave it a go. I get asked to join in with women a lot. I don't know if this greater incidence of bi women is because of men wanting this and then the women enjoying it or because the women always had an inkling to try it. The same doesn't appear to be true of men and there appears to be opprobrium for men testing out being bi." Opprobrium... classic had to look that one up you clever thing. I think female culture is somewhat bi anyway. Women are used to looking at other women and finding them attractive... although perhaps not sexually. In our culture women's bodies are celebrated more and seen to be the epitome of sexiness...all those lovely curves...and women themselves tend to agree with that. Male culture is not so forgiving of the whole bi thing.
As for my own experimentation... I'm nowhere near bi-curious... but I do think that it benefits swingers if they can better grasp what their limits are... as well as perhaps pushing those limits a little. The more flexible you are, the more things you can try out | |||
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"Do you feel a need to open yourself up to experimentation? By your own logic if you're straight you're straight. There's nothing wrong with that. In the five years I've been doing this I have met many more women becoming bi than I have in the non-swinging world. A few I have spoken to had never considered it something they would try but felt it was almost a norm here so gave it a go. I get asked to join in with women a lot. I don't know if this greater incidence of bi women is because of men wanting this and then the women enjoying it or because the women always had an inkling to try it. The same doesn't appear to be true of men and there appears to be opprobrium for men testing out being bi. Opprobrium... classic had to look that one up you clever thing. I think female culture is somewhat bi anyway. Women are used to looking at other women and finding them attractive... although perhaps not sexually. In our culture women's bodies are celebrated more and seen to be the epitome of sexiness...all those lovely curves...and women themselves tend to agree with that. Male culture is not so forgiving of the whole bi thing.
As for my own experimentation... I'm nowhere near bi-curious... but I do think that it benefits swingers if they can better grasp what their limits are... as well as perhaps pushing those limits a little. The more flexible you are, the more things you can try out "That's why I do yoga. | |||
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"I sometimes think that Fab meanings and definitions of words are flexible compared to elsewhere. we know some men cant get meets so they meet a CD or TGirl instead but i mean as a whole thing not just fab Sorry Jacqs, I can't agree with you here. I really can't see that guys get so desperate trying to meet women that they give in and meet CD's or tgirls. Me: Why did you let him suck your cock? Him: No available pussy. True conversation (not a pm)" what the local updates see the pattern forming then low and behold straight man meets CD or Tgirl | |||
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"A slightly less chance of them sending me a message than someone who is openly bi. "You are a good example of the opprobrium men can experience here. You verify everyone at a social as you're a friendly soul. Some of the men who show their verification summary, rather than the verifications, lose meets just because they spoke to you. | |||
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"After a forum post someone made had me thinking this is the definition i have grew up with "Straight to me, means women like men and men like women" or a man meeting a t-girl having his cock sucked is not straight just the same as a woman going down on a woman Or is this now straight
straight in your terms what does it mean?
Exactly as you are saying it!
Although like you we have no issues with sexuality, surely the definitions remain the same.
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"A slightly less chance of them sending me a message than someone who is openly bi.
You are a good example of the opprobrium men can experience here. You verify everyone at a social as you're a friendly soul. Some of the men who show their verification summary, rather than the verifications, lose meets just because they spoke to you.
"Damn. I've not thought about that  I always make sure I write that they are straight and it was at a social. | |||
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"A slightly less chance of them sending me a message than someone who is openly bi.
You are a good example of the opprobrium men can experience here. You verify everyone at a social as you're a friendly soul. Some of the men who show their verification summary, rather than the verifications, lose meets just because they spoke to you.
Damn. I've not thought about that I always make sure I write that they are straight and it was at a social. "I like your socials or me tormenting u | |||
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"A slightly less chance of them sending me a message than someone who is openly bi.
You are a good example of the opprobrium men can experience here. You verify everyone at a social as you're a friendly soul. Some of the men who show their verification summary, rather than the verifications, lose meets just because they spoke to you.
Damn. I've not thought about that I always make sure I write that they are straight and it was at a social. "It shouldn't matter at all though. Carry on being you. | |||
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"A slightly less chance of them sending me a message than someone who is openly bi.
You are a good example of the opprobrium men can experience here. You verify everyone at a social as you're a friendly soul. Some of the men who show their verification summary, rather than the verifications, lose meets just because they spoke to you.
"Omg I hadn't thought of that. That is completely ridiculous but I bet it happens. | |||
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"The real definition is black and white... Man + woman = straight Man + man = bi (or gay if they only have sex with men) Woman + woman = bi (or gay if they only have sex with women) Man + transvestite = bi Man + transitioned transsexual = straight. Man + Man + woman = happy " | |||
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"The real definition is black and white... Man + woman = straight Man + man = bi (or gay if they only have sex with men) Woman + woman = bi (or gay if they only have sex with women) Man + transvestite = bi Man + transitioned transsexual = straight. Man + Man + woman = happy "#Gay | |||
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"The real definition is black and white... Man + woman = straight Man + man = bi (or gay if they only have sex with men) Woman + woman = bi (or gay if they only have sex with women) Man + transvestite = bi Man + transitioned transsexual = straight. Man + Man + woman = happy
#Gay"Lol you have quite strong opinions on this matter don't you. | |||
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"The real definition is black and white... Man + woman = straight Man + man = bi (or gay if they only have sex with men) Woman + woman = bi (or gay if they only have sex with women) Man + transvestite = bi Man + transitioned transsexual = straight. Man + Man + woman = happy
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Lol you have quite strong opinions on this matter don't you."No not really but I know straight means do you? | |||
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"The real definition is black and white... Man + woman = straight Man + man = bi (or gay if they only have sex with men) Woman + woman = bi (or gay if they only have sex with women) Man + transvestite = bi Man + transitioned transsexual = straight. Man + Man + woman = happy
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Lol you have quite strong opinions on this matter don't you.
No not really but I know straight means do you?"So do I and in this context the word straight means non deviant and the opposite of straight in this context is deviant (in a derogatory way not a playful jokey way). I personally don't consider any sexual orientation opinion to be deviant. | |||
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"The real definition is black and white... Man + woman = straight Man + man = bi (or gay if they only have sex with men) Woman + woman = bi (or gay if they only have sex with women) Man + transvestite = bi Man + transitioned transsexual = straight. Man + Man + woman = happy
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Lol you have quite strong opinions on this matter don't you.
No not really but I know straight means do you?"I do. But that's not relevant. I have just observed you post a lot on this subject and not just in this thread. That's all. | |||
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"There are genuine straight guys on here who the likes off me make them feel sick." Hey Lisaloves, I just want to clarify that the thought of someone like you doesn't make me sick in the slightest. I'm an artist for fucks sake so my circle of friends looks like a pretty freaky managerie It's just the thought of having sex with a dude that's the problem... and that's purely because there is zero attraction there. Considering my utter infatuation with almost everything to do with the female, my biology makes things pretty clear to me... sexually speaking. But that doesn't impact in the slightest on how I see you as a person | |||
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"The real definition is black and white... Man + woman = straight Man + man = bi (or gay if they only have sex with men) Woman + woman = bi (or gay if they only have sex with women) Man + transvestite = bi Man + transitioned transsexual = straight. Man + Man + woman = happy
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Lol you have quite strong opinions on this matter don't you.
No not really but I know straight means do you?
So do I and in this context the word straight means non deviant and the opposite of straight in this context is deviant (in a derogatory way not a playful jokey way). I personally don't consider any sexual orientation opinion to be deviant."So how straight are you.? You like to fuck girls like me up my pussy or you more into Muscle marys. I mean your very fab and open minded please enlighten me. | |||
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"There are genuine straight guys on here who the likes off me make them feel sick. Hey Lisaloves, I just want to clarify that the thought of someone like you doesn't make me sick in the slightest. I'm an artist for fucks sake so my circle of friends looks like a pretty freaky managerie It's just the thought of having sex with a dude that's the problem... and that's purely because there is zero attraction there. Considering my utter infatuation with almost everything to do with the female, my biology makes things pretty clear to me... sexually speaking. But that doesn't impact in the slightest on how I see you as a person "LOL tbh honest I think you're the only genuine honest poster on here. But maybe that's because your happy and confident enough to say yep 100% straight and no interest in gays or guys pretending to be women so big respect for not trying to look cool. Respect and happy pussy hunting. x | |||
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"This is just another case of some trying to force people into fitting into their little pigeon holed ideas of what life should be like. The reality is the the whole idea that some people are straight and some not is based on derogatory and pejorative concepts. The reason why the term straight is used is because straight means undeviating. The opposite of undeviating is deviating. People who are deviating are deviants. If you believe your behaviour to be non deviant then you're straight. What other people think about your behaviour is there problem and, if it's not the same as what you think about it then they're probably not the sort of people you'd really want to meet anyhow. Personally I think this whole straight, bi-curious, bi & gay thing is a load lof bollocks. I like people for who they are not who they want to bed. As for who I want to bed; most of them know who they are already. "One synonym does not a definition make. And I would dispute the terms straight, bi or gay are pejorative. That would imply that being one was better than the other, which it isn't, it's just different. But either way, that's a heck of a lot of writing to fit into the little box next time we're giving blood. I'm pretty sure they're hoping for a simple 'yes' or 'no' Mr ddc | |||
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"The real definition is black and white... Man + woman = straight Man + man = bi (or gay if they only have sex with men) Woman + woman = bi (or gay if they only have sex with women) Man + transvestite = bi Man + transitioned transsexual = straight. Man + Man + woman = happy
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Lol you have quite strong opinions on this matter don't you.
No not really but I know straight means do you?
So do I and in this context the word straight means non deviant and the opposite of straight in this context is deviant (in a derogatory way not a playful jokey way). I personally don't consider any sexual orientation opinion to be deviant.
So how straight are you.?
"I don't consider myself a deviant so therefore I'm straight. If you really wanted to know you could have just checked my profile or asked me when we had are conversation by private message the other week. " You like to fuck girls like me up my pussy or you more into Muscle marys. " Not really into a 'type' more into people for who and what they are but if I wanted to fuck you you'd already know by now. " I mean your very fab and open minded please enlighten me. "Hope you're suitably enlightened. | |||
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"This is just another case of some trying to force people into fitting into their little pigeon holed ideas of what life should be like. The reality is the the whole idea that some people are straight and some not is based on derogatory and pejorative concepts. The reason why the term straight is used is because straight means undeviating. The opposite of undeviating is deviating. People who are deviating are deviants. If you believe your behaviour to be non deviant then you're straight. What other people think about your behaviour is there problem and, if it's not the same as what you think about it then they're probably not the sort of people you'd really want to meet anyhow. Personally I think this whole straight, bi-curious, bi & gay thing is a load lof bollocks. I like people for who they are not who they want to bed. As for who I want to bed; most of them know who they are already.
One synonym does not a definition make.
And I would dispute the terms straight, bi or gay are pejorative. That would imply that being one was better than the other, which it isn't, it's just different.
"The word straight is based on the pejorative idea that straight in this context is the opposite of deviant which is being used in a pejorative way to describe bi or gay people. " But either way, that's a heck of a lot of writing to fit into the little box next time we're giving blood. I'm pretty sure they're hoping for a simple 'yes' or 'no' Mr ddc " | |||
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"This is just another case of some trying to force people into fitting into their little pigeon holed ideas of what life should be like. The reality is the the whole idea that some people are straight and some not is based on derogatory and pejorative concepts. The reason why the term straight is used is because straight means undeviating. The opposite of undeviating is deviating. People who are deviating are deviants. If you believe your behaviour to be non deviant then you're straight. What other people think about your behaviour is there problem and, if it's not the same as what you think about it then they're probably not the sort of people you'd really want to meet anyhow. Personally I think this whole straight, bi-curious, bi & gay thing is a load lof bollocks. I like people for who they are not who they want to bed. As for who I want to bed; most of them know who they are already.
One synonym does not a definition make.
And I would dispute the terms straight, bi or gay are pejorative. That would imply that being one was better than the other, which it isn't, it's just different.
The word straight is based on the pejorative idea that straight in this context is the opposite of deviant which is being used in a pejorative way to describe bi or gay people.
But either way, that's a heck of a lot of writing to fit into the little box next time we're giving blood. I'm pretty sure they're hoping for a simple 'yes' or 'no'
Mr ddc
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"This is just another case of some trying to force people into fitting into their little pigeon holed ideas of what life should be like. The reality is the the whole idea that some people are straight and some not is based on derogatory and pejorative concepts. The reason why the term straight is used is because straight means undeviating. The opposite of undeviating is deviating. People who are deviating are deviants. If you believe your behaviour to be non deviant then you're straight. What other people think about your behaviour is there problem and, if it's not the same as what you think about it then they're probably not the sort of people you'd really want to meet anyhow. Personally I think this whole straight, bi-curious, bi & gay thing is a load lof bollocks. I like people for who they are not who they want to bed. As for who I want to bed; most of them know who they are already.
One synonym does not a definition make.
And I would dispute the terms straight, bi or gay are pejorative. That would imply that being one was better than the other, which it isn't, it's just different.
The word straight is based on the pejorative idea that straight in this context is the opposite of deviant which is being used in a pejorative way to describe bi or gay people.
But either way, that's a heck of a lot of writing to fit into the little box next time we're giving blood. I'm pretty sure they're hoping for a simple 'yes' or 'no'
Mr ddc
Then you have a different dictionary to me. Mine has 32 definitions for 'straight': the word 'deviant' is mentioned in none of them.
('not bent' I'd give you, but not 'deviant', sorry )"But it probably has undeviating as a meaning for straight. Straight, in this context is still slang but you get to straight from deviant by this root. Acts if homosexuality are a deviation from the natural order. People who deviate from the norm are deviants Deviants are deviating from the norm. The opposite of deviating is undeviating. Anything undeviating is straight. There for the opposite of deviant, in this slang, is straight. That is why I consider, in this context, the opposite of straight to be deviant and, as such, it's use based on derogatory and pejorative consepts. | |||
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" Acts of homosexuality are a deviation from the natural order. ." Ahhh, I can see where you've gone wrong there. You see, I'd have to disagree with your initial premise there, after which your whole construct falls down. Do not muddle 'natural order' with 'outdated societal prejudices' Still I'm too busy trying to work out if I should turn the lights out. Sleep well | |||
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"What am if a woman fucks me with a strap on???? "Men have a dick for penetrating so if you take a dick up your ass whether real or fake you must be gay/bi | |||
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" Acts of homosexuality are a deviation from the natural order. . Ahhh, I can see where you've gone wrong there. You see, I'd have to disagree with your initial premise there, after which your whole construct falls down. Do not muddle 'natural order' with 'outdated societal prejudices' Still I'm too busy trying to work out if I should turn the lights out. Sleep well" I personally do not believe that acts of homosexuality are a deviation from natural order, I'm simply putting forward how the word "straight" has come to be associated with people who are not gay or bi and how that use is based on a pejorative and derogatory concept. | |||
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"What am if a woman fucks me with a strap on????
Men have a dick for penetrating so if you take a dick up your ass whether real or fake you must be gay/bi"Don't be silly. | |||
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"I think all women should be bi...and invite me along to spectate and finish them off ....just saying
What have you got to offer in terms of "finishing off"? "Lol, I suspect, in that scenario, quite a lot | |||
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