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it just defies logic

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts

long story but please stick with it.

last week our bin men left a sticker on our re-cycling bin which said "bin not been emptied due to having items that are not allowed for re-cycling"

nothing different in it to what we normally put in.

phoned council asking what the problem was and they sent out an inspector to check our bin contents

he said everything seems fine so will tell them to empty both bins next week.

so, next week is now here and the bin men came, emptied the general rubbish bin...... and then emptied the re-cycling bin into the the same general rubbish lorry ! ! not even a separate section of the bin lorry! ! !

just what was the point of all the phone calls, an inspector, and the sticker for wrong rubbish ????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"long story but please stick with it.

last week our bin men left a sticker on our re-cycling bin which said "bin not been emptied due to having items that are not allowed for re-cycling"

nothing different in it to what we normally put in.

phoned council asking what the problem was and they sent out an inspector to check our bin contents

he said everything seems fine so will tell them to empty both bins next week.

so, next week is now here and the bin men came, emptied the general rubbish bin...... and then emptied the re-cycling bin into the the same general rubbish lorry ! ! not even a separate section of the bin lorry! ! !

just what was the point of all the phone calls, an inspector, and the sticker for wrong rubbish ????"

They are not going to send a recycling van for just one bin, not cost effective. I also would imagine the inspector felt you couldn't wait for another week until the recycling van was due.

These are just my assumptions.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

Preparing you for the 'Big Brother' existance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's actually against the law!

However some local authorities have recycling ability on normal rubbish, so it may just have been recycled anyhow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To give the recycling inspector man a job of course.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

I had a similar thing where they claimed there was a bag full of stuff in the bin when it was just some plastic wrapping with a box on top of it.

Couldn't be bothered to check but could be bothered to fill out a card, walk down the drive and post it- leaving the bin full.

I just chuck everything in the normal bin now and lob the cat shit and litter on top- he's welcome to sift his way through that to check it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's actually against the law!

However some local authorities have recycling ability on normal rubbish, so it may just have been recycled anyhow."

Quote the relevant Act/bill/white paper then.

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts

our council do not collect glass either, we have to drive to the bottle bank with it

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

You wanted the bin emptied the bin got emptied....Where's the issue?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You really think all your recycling is actually recycled?

Most of it isn't and never has been. A friend of mine owns a private waste firm and most of the time he was sent from the recycling yard to either the regular tip or if he had cardboard, the local incinerator.

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts

no issue evie, just a waste of money by our council, half a bin load of re-cycling in general rubbish when they wont take the re-cycle bin if there is only one carrier bag in it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's actually against the law!

However some local authorities have recycling ability on normal rubbish, so it may just have been recycled anyhow.

Quote the relevant Act/bill/white paper then."
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Are you being serious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's actually against the law!

However some local authorities have recycling ability on normal rubbish, so it may just have been recycled anyhow.

Quote the relevant Act/bill/white paper then..

Are you being serious "

You've made a statement. If something is illegal then there'll be a statute on it. Or were you just waffling?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"You really think all your recycling is actually recycled?

Most of it isn't and never has been. A friend of mine owns a private waste firm and most of the time he was sent from the recycling yard to either the regular tip or if he had cardboard, the local incinerator."

Completely agree - which is why I don't bother with all the guff of separating rubbish, washing jars, cans and bottles .. It is honestly all just a big con !

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"no issue evie, just a waste of money by our council, half a bin load of re-cycling in general rubbish when they wont take the re-cycle bin if there is only one carrier bag in it"

But they didn't just collect your recycling bin did they? They collecting general rubbish bins that day.

Perhaps they should have left your recycling rubbish until the next collection but thought that as you had queried the non collection it would be good customer service to collect it sooner and rather than waste petrol and overheads etc sending a recycling lorry out for one bin it was better to collect it with the general rubbish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's actually against the law!

However some local authorities have recycling ability on normal rubbish, so it may just have been recycled anyhow.

Quote the relevant Act/bill/white paper then..

Are you being serious

You've made a statement. If something is illegal then there'll be a statute on it. Or were you just waffling?"
.

1 January 2015 amendment to the eu waste framework directive states all recyclable material must be collected separately.

I'm not just whistling Dixie you know

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts

no, we told them it was not even half full, the inspector peered into it looking for the alleged offending article and i did mention it would be fine until the next re-cycling collection, he insisted it would be emptied the next collection, which was general rubbish

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

i think it was done to wind you up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no, we told them it was not even half full, the inspector peered into it looking for the alleged offending article and i did mention it would be fine until the next re-cycling collection, he insisted it would be emptied the next collection, which was general rubbish"
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Vibratos have to go into small appliances but make sure you remove the batteries....

Obviously they go in a storage box

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"no, we told them it was not even half full, the inspector peered into it looking for the alleged offending article and i did mention it would be fine until the next re-cycling collection, he insisted it would be emptied the next collection, which was general rubbish.

Vibratos have to go into small appliances but make sure you remove the batteries....

Obviously they go in a storage box "

Yea!! And the WEEE and Battery Directive is a load of hooey as well!!

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

I just put it all in general waste - it takes a month or more to fill the wheelie bin anyway as I generate such little waste.

It's better for the environment too as the re-cylcing is just a form filling con. Council pays re-cycler a premium to take the waste, re-cycler pays to tip or incinerate, and pockets the difference. Council gets to hit targets. Little or nothing gets re-cylced. You get to pay more council tax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just put it all in general waste - it takes a month or more to fill the wheelie bin anyway as I generate such little waste.

It's better for the environment too as the re-cylcing is just a form filling con. Council pays re-cycler a premium to take the waste, re-cycler pays to tip or incinerate, and pockets the difference. Council gets to hit targets. Little or nothing gets re-cylced. You get to pay more council tax."

Exactly this. It's another con of a green tax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's actually against the law!

However some local authorities have recycling ability on normal rubbish, so it may just have been recycled anyhow.

Quote the relevant Act/bill/white paper then..

Are you being serious

You've made a statement. If something is illegal then there'll be a statute on it. Or were you just waffling?.

1 January 2015 amendment to the eu waste framework directive states all recyclable material must be collected separately.

I'm not just whistling Dixie you know"

But it does not say that it has to be disposed of separately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's actually against the law!

However some local authorities have recycling ability on normal rubbish, so it may just have been recycled anyhow.

Quote the relevant Act/bill/white paper then..

Are you being serious

You've made a statement. If something is illegal then there'll be a statute on it. Or were you just waffling?.

1 January 2015 amendment to the eu waste framework directive states all recyclable material must be collected separately.

I'm not just whistling Dixie you know

But it does not say that it has to be disposed of separately"
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And?.

Where did I say it did?

Your worse than the other women!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work for a council - ours is definitely recycled, no con.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fly tippers don't have these issues. Just saying like....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Happens to us alot. Wee sticker saying no glass allowed ( which the kids throw in there, and who the hell doesn't recycle glass anyway? ).

We just hide it at the bottom so jokes on you West Lothian Council...... Muhahaha.

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By *angerousEyesMan
over a year ago

weston


"You really think all your recycling is actually recycled?

Most of it isn't and never has been. A friend of mine owns a private waste firm and most of the time he was sent from the recycling yard to either the regular tip or if he had cardboard, the local incinerator."

Pretty much this, a lot goes over sea into landfill, they just change the place it gets dumped. It looks good but they just pass it on.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"I work for a council - ours is definitely recycled, no con."
Do you re-cycle it yourselves at council owned re-cycling plants? I doubt it. You pay for it to be "re-cycled" by private operators, who pay to dump/burn/export etc for less than you pay them and keep the difference as profit. You just tick the boxes to say it's been re-cycled.

I'm sure you inspect the private contractors' plants regularly, giving them due notice of course in line with the contract. No doubt on the day they're inspected, there's abundant evidence of re-cycling - until you leave that is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work for a council - ours is definitely recycled, no con. Do you re-cycle it yourselves at council owned re-cycling plants? I doubt it. You pay for it to be "re-cycled" by private operators, who pay to dump/burn/export etc for less than you pay them and keep the difference as profit. You just tick the boxes to say it's been re-cycled.

I'm sure you inspect the private contractors' plants regularly, giving them due notice of course in line with the contract. No doubt on the day they're inspected, there's abundant evidence of re-cycling - until you leave that is."

I work for a council too. Ours is also definitely recycled. Not by a private contractor, but at a council owned plant, by council employees. Why's that so hard to believe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work for a council too. Ours is also definitely recycled. Not by a private contractor, but at a council owned plant, by council employees. Why's that so hard to believe?"

Because everyone hates their Councils and wants to think the worst, but you probably know that from experience already!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work for a council too. Ours is also definitely recycled. Not by a private contractor, but at a council owned plant, by council employees. Why's that so hard to believe?

Because everyone hates their Councils and wants to think the worst, but you probably know that from experience already! "

Yeah silly me. I should know that, as an overpaid, lazy, bureaucratic pen pusher with a gold plated pension, after all

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


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I work for a council too. Ours is also definitely recycled. Not by a private contractor, but at a council owned plant, by council employees. Why's that so hard to believe?"

Do you genuinely re-cycle, or just sort the waste and sell it on for disposal? By re-cycle, I mean, melt the aluminium down, purify it it and cast it into industry grade ingots for example? I doubt it.

Myself and many others find it so hard to believe, because it has been repeatedly exposed as a con, with the waste being simply disposed of by contractors, not re-cycled.

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