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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The Boston marathon bomber has been sentenced to death.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good I hope they don't wet the sponge.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Under federal law it is done by lethal injection.....

i was torn.. because life in supermax is actually said to be worse than death....

I rather he'd gone insane over a long... long time

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Although Massachusetts hasn't executed anyone since 1947 and they repealed the death penalty in 1984.

So whether they execute him or not who knows.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Under federal law it is done by lethal injection.....

i was torn.. because life in supermax is actually said to be worse than death....

I rather he'd gone insane over a long... long time"

I think if it was 1 of my family killed or maimed, Id want him gone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only in America!

Land of the free

Home of the gated community

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Under federal law it is done by lethal injection.....

i was torn.. because life in supermax is actually said to be worse than death....

I rather he'd gone insane over a long... long time"

He'll still be on death row for at least a decade though right? ..

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

"The lights go out in massachuces"

Well a bit of a flicker anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh I bet Alex Jones is going nuts!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Only in America!

Land of the free

Home of the gated community

Not just America though , you'll get executed for a lot less in other countries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Under federal law it is done by lethal injection.....

i was torn.. because life in supermax is actually said to be worse than death....

I rather he'd gone insane over a long... long time

He'll still be on death row for at least a decade though right? ..

Probably several

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By *eforfuncplCouple
over a year ago

Morecambe

"The Boston marathon bomber has been sentenced to death. "

Fuckin good !! Our friends were running there ! Good job they finished in a respectable time and missed the carnage but only just ! Any fucker who says this cunt needs mercy needs to just take a step back ! Animals just animals !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if it was 1 of my family killed or maimed, Id want him gone."

Me too, but that's why I shouldn't decide on the sentencing laws. I just can't agree with the death penalty, it reduces the state to a level it should not go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Proven in court that he purposefully wanted to target children and sadly got his wish killing an eight year old.

And still the apologist hand wringers make excuses..........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Proven in court that he purposefully wanted to target children and sadly got his wish killing an eight year old.

And still the apologist hand wringers make excuses.........."

Is everyone who just doesn't believe in the state snuffing out someone's existence an apologist hand-wringer?

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

I'm against the death penalty but I don't make the rules.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cant help but think this scumbag will see this sentence as anything other than martyrdom.

I think I'd rather see him do life in a shithole slammer with no possibility of parole.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Proven in court that he purposefully wanted to target children and sadly got his wish killing an eight year old.

And still the apologist hand wringers make excuses..........

Is everyone who just doesn't believe in the state snuffing out someone's existence an apologist hand-wringer? "

You have missed the point completely about apologists. You can stand by your stance on the death penalty all you want and admirably so. The post was in relation to the excuses being made for him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Proven in court that he purposefully wanted to target children and sadly got his wish killing an eight year old.

And still the apologist hand wringers make excuses..........

Is everyone who just doesn't believe in the state snuffing out someone's existence an apologist hand-wringer?

You have missed the point completely about apologists. You can stand by your stance on the death penalty all you want and admirably so. The post was in relation to the excuses being made for him. "

I was just asking because I was unsure who you were referring to. Crack on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Death penalty is the easy way out.

Look at Fred West, Harold Shipman they both took the easy option and that is what the death penalty is.

This guy should be locked up for the rest of his life and throw away the key.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Death penalty is the easy way out.

Look at Fred West, Harold Shipman they both took the easy option and that is what the death penalty is.

That's different.

Death row and everything that goes with it is no joke. I'm sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Death penalty is the easy way out.

Look at Fred West, Harold Shipman they both took the easy option and that is what the death penalty is.

This guy should be locked up for the rest of his life and throw away the key."
well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If It was my child he'd killed, He'd be long gone!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Death penalty is the easy way out.

Look at Fred West, Harold Shipman they both took the easy option and that is what the death penalty is.

That's different.

Death row and everything that goes with it is no joke. I'm sure. "

well put yourself in that situation would you rather wait 10 + years for the fatal jab, spend the rest off your life locked 23 hours in a cell or hang yourself and escape that. ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The world's a fucked up place.

Maybe the death sentence is appropriate.

Meanwhile Obama's administration is both arming and training the Syrian "rebels".

I won't start on our "Mid East Peace Envoy".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Death penalty is the easy way out.

Look at Fred West, Harold Shipman they both took the easy option and that is what the death penalty is.

That's different.

Death row and everything that goes with it is no joke. I'm sure.

well put yourself in that situation would you rather wait 10 + years for the fatal jab, spend the rest off your life locked 23 hours in a cell or hang yourself and escape that. ?"

But this is not about suicide is it?....

The scumbags on death row have NO contact visits.

Get recreation time walking around "outside" in a 20 ft cage.

Spend 23hrs per day locked up.

Waiting to have your life taken from you.

Suicide is by choice.

Death row isn't.

It's no joke on there. It can't be.

Google a site by Robert pruett.

He's a death row inmate in texas.

He blogs every 2 months or so.

In one of them he talks frankly about his experiences on death row.

It aint pretty.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

The world's a fucked up place.

Maybe the death sentence is appropriate.

Meanwhile Obama's administration is both arming and training the Syrian "rebels".

I won't start on our "Mid East Peace Envoy"."

Justice is often rationed.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Under federal law it is done by lethal injection.....

i was torn.. because life in supermax is actually said to be worse than death....

I rather he'd gone insane over a long... long time"

...and if he had been locked up in an EU country and the ECHR gave him the right to vote, i'm sure you would be happy about that right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Death penalty is the easy way out.

Look at Fred West, Harold Shipman they both took the easy option and that is what the death penalty is.

That's different.

Death row and everything that goes with it is no joke. I'm sure.

well put yourself in that situation would you rather wait 10 + years for the fatal jab, spend the rest off your life locked 23 hours in a cell or hang yourself and escape that. ?

But this is not about suicide is it?....

The scumbags on death row have NO contact visits.

Get recreation time walking around "outside" in a 20 ft cage.

Spend 23hrs per day locked up.

Waiting to have your life taken from you.

Suicide is by choice.

Death row isn't.

It's no joke on there. It can't be.

Google a site by Robert pruett.

He's a death row inmate in texas.

He blogs every 2 months or so.

In one of them he talks frankly about his experiences on death row.

It aint pretty.

And that's my whole point why should he know that at some point in the not too distance future it will end.?

This guy could live to 90 and should spend the rest of his life in torment locked away in a max security.

Letting him die is letting him off the hook.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This guy could live to 90 and should spend the rest of his life in torment locked away in a max security.

Letting him die is letting him off the hook.

I agree in his case.

I think a scumbag like him will probably see his death sentence as martyrdom.

He should spend life in a shithole slammer and all the horrible shit that goes with it for what he did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it strange in some ways though that they keep people on death row for years . Wouldn't the relatives have closure more quickly if the death sentence was actioned relatively swiftly. Some inmates gain a fan club , or do something that makes the news. Rakes it all up again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Only in America!

Land of the free

Home of the gated community

Not just America though , you'll get executed for a lot less in other countries. "
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That's why were called first world and there called third world.

All this progress and people still want to take us backwards.

Humans are funny animals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find it strange in some ways though that they keep people on death row for years . "

A lot of it is the appeals process that often takes years in itself.

There are about 5 stages of appeals (dependent on how much of a case for appeals exist).

The last stage is the supreme Court.

Failing that. They can then appeal directly to either the state governor or directly to the president for clemency as they are the only 2 avenues that can overrule the supreme Court.

It takes years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes presidential clemency!

I wouldn't hold out to much hope for this guy though it's reserved for turkeys and guys like marc rich

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Although Massachusetts hasn't executed anyone since 1947 and they repealed the death penalty in 1984.

So whether they execute him or not who knows.

It's not up to the state.....

Because he was charged in effect with terrorist offences the case was trailed under federal law as opposed to state law.... The case in effect was brought by the U.S. Government

The state has no say in the matter

There will be an automatic right to appeal... If they can find grounds to... Which in this case is going to be hard since he admitted he did it....

It won't be an everlasting long process in this case

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

As with all acts of terror from pedos to bombers i say let the familys of the dead or hurt choose a sentance ....maybe throw them to the lions or in with a silver back...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Although Massachusetts hasn't executed anyone since 1947 and they repealed the death penalty in 1984.

So whether they execute him or not who knows.

It's not up to the state.....

Because he was charged in effect with terrorist offences the case was trailed under federal law as opposed to state law.... The case in effect was brought by the U.S. Government

The state has no say in the matter

There will be an automatic right to appeal... If they can find grounds to... Which in this case is going to be hard since he admitted he did it....

It won't be an everlasting long process in this case"

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I find it strange in some ways though that they keep people on death row for years .

A lot of it is the appeals process that often takes years in itself.

There are about 5 stages of appeals (dependent on how much of a case for appeals exist).

The last stage is the supreme Court.

Failing that. They can then appeal directly to either the state governor or directly to the president for clemency as they are the only 2 avenues that can overrule the supreme Court.

It takes years.

I'm going to answer a lot of the posts in this thread..... because a lot of people seem to be confusing federal law with state law....

the above would have been correct under state law.....but is NOT under federal law

under federal law, 1 automatic appeal (if they find a ground to appeal) and thats it... thats is why very very very few cases are trialed under federal law (only 3 people have been given the death penalty under federal law in about the last 50-60 years)

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"As with all acts of terror from pedos to bombers i say let the familys of the dead or hurt choose a sentance ...."

they actually do in the sentensing phase....in which victim impact statements are taken into consideration... in this case they has a sort of check list they are given

so they fact that he wanted the death penalty to be seen as a martyr is one factor as opposed to being seen as some sort of hero figure being behind bars.... the fact that his placed the bomb behind children is another... that he was influenced by his older brother. .. as so on and so on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As much as I agree he should get everything he deserves I can't ever agree with capital punishment.

They know that when it comes to it they don't have to live with their guilt, whereas the families will live with it for the rest of their natural life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Proven in court that he purposefully wanted to target children and sadly got his wish killing an eight year old.

And still the apologist hand wringers make excuses.........."

How is not supprting the death sentence 'making excuses' ir being an apologist? Justice is very different to vengeance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...maybe throw them to the lions or in with a silver back...

So basically when in north korea they execute people with mortars or anti aircraft weapons or feed people to dogs, or when IS throw people from buildings or stone them to death - that is how you want justice to be?

Is ending someone's life nit enough for you? Does it have to be suitably brutal and unpleasant too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Proven in court that he purposefully wanted to target children and sadly got his wish killing an eight year old.

And still the apologist hand wringers make excuses..........

How is not supprting the death sentence 'making excuses' ir being an apologist? Justice is very different to vengeance"

I refer you to my earlier post about this sheesh. What is it with you guys jumping in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Proven in court that he purposefully wanted to target children and sadly got his wish killing an eight year old.

And still the apologist hand wringers make excuses..........

How is not supprting the death sentence 'making excuses' ir being an apologist? Justice is very different to vengeance

I refer you to my earlier post about this sheesh. What is it with you guys jumping in? "

Jumping in? It's a forum?

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"...maybe throw them to the lions or in with a silver back...

Is ending someone's life nit enough for you? Does it have to be suitably brutal and unpleasant too?"

Yep, someone who will torture,kill,rape i have no issues with them meeting a barbaric death... if you ever meet evil up close you may just change your mind!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Proven in court that he purposefully wanted to target children and sadly got his wish killing an eight year old.

And still the apologist hand wringers make excuses..........

How is not supprting the death sentence 'making excuses' ir being an apologist? Justice is very different to vengeance

I refer you to my earlier post about this sheesh. What is it with you guys jumping in?

Jumping in? It's a forum?

Jumping in without considering the posts around it and ones below I would have thought you guys had been around here long enough to consider that.

No need for the forum line at all another sheesh.

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