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"300 couples which means 7000 men" What about the trans people? | |||
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"In the case of a lot of the guys that struggle on here, there are reasons for their lack of success. Those things are usually at least partly within the control of the man himself. But it's much easier to blame the site, or the numbers, or the women, or the other guys... than to look to oneself, accept any responsibility and make changes to improve one's chances. The men that make the effort, present themselves in ways that appeal most to the women/couples, don't whinge and moan and don't make excuses and blame everyone else are usually the ones that have the success." | |||
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"In the case of a lot of the guys that struggle on here, there are reasons for their lack of success. Those things are usually at least partly within the control of the man himself. But it's much easier to blame the site, or the numbers, or the women, or the other guys... than to look to oneself, accept any responsibility and make changes to improve one's chances. The men that make the effort, present themselves in ways that appeal most to the women/couples, don't whinge and moan and don't make excuses and blame everyone else are usually the ones that have the success." | |||
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"In the case of a lot of the guys that struggle on here, there are reasons for their lack of success. Those things are usually at least partly within the control of the man himself. But it's much easier to blame the site, or the numbers, or the women, or the other guys... than to look to oneself, accept any responsibility and make changes to improve one's chances. The men that make the effort, present themselves in ways that appeal most to the women/couples, don't whinge and moan and don't make excuses and blame everyone else are usually the ones that have the success." I doff my hat well said... | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. " | |||
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"P.S. A lot of those women are probably men too.lol " | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. " | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. " It's true though. The majority... not all men. Some men are very open in the fact they think the women on here are free prostitutes. They are rude and entitled in mail. They sometimes won't take "no thanks" for an answer. People say the bad ones don't ruin it for the good ones... well actually the bad ones sometimes do. After a lot of rude disgusting messages it is an utter turn off. It gets increasingly difficult not to tar all men with the same brush. Some men are fucking arseholes. A few aren't. | |||
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"Roughly 34 men to every woman" I should he so lucky... Although not all at once just in twos will do | |||
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"Some of the guys on here and the way they act would struggle in a brothel with a £50 note hanging out there ass pocket " | |||
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"In the case of a lot of the guys that struggle on here, there are reasons for their lack of success. Those things are usually at least partly within the control of the man himself. But it's much easier to blame the site, or the numbers, or the women, or the other guys... than to look to oneself, accept any responsibility and make changes to improve one's chances. The men that make the effort, present themselves in ways that appeal most to the women/couples, don't whinge and moan and don't make excuses and blame everyone else are usually the ones that have the success." | |||
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"Some of the guys on here and the way they act would struggle in a brothel with a £50 note hanging out there ass pocket " ha ha | |||
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"The arsehole single guys of fab have had a lucky escape by not meeting some of the arsehole single lady's of fab I'd say. Talk about men haters. They need help to get over there issues " Haha, unlike any of the men..... | |||
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"The arsehole single guys of fab have had a lucky escape by not meeting some of the arsehole single lady's of fab I'd say. Talk about men haters. They need help to get over there issues " Try and set up a single fem profile and see what happens. You may will be enlightened! | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. " I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her. | |||
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"Even if the number ratio was reversed, most men would still struggle due to not having moved on from neanderthal stage. The only guys I have time for on here are those who are savvy enough to work out what makes most women tick. Not rocket science but there you go!" | |||
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"The arsehole single guys of fab have had a lucky escape by not meeting some of the arsehole single lady's of fab I'd say. Talk about men haters. They need help to get over there issues " I agree that a lot of people on here appear to have 'issues' but believe me it's not exclusive to us women!! | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her." I honestly feel the amount of crud on here (any gender) makes it easier for the ones I'm looking for to stand out. | |||
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"The arsehole single guys of fab have had a lucky escape by not meeting some of the arsehole single lady's of fab I'd say. Talk about men haters. They need help to get over there issues " | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her. I honestly feel the amount of crud on here (any gender) makes it easier for the ones I'm looking for to stand out. " On the forums perhaps, but not in your inbox. If the woman doesn't actually use or read the forums, then how will she know? | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her." I completely disagree. The good guys really stand out in my inbox and I take the time to read every message, as I know do many of my single lady friends on here. Nothing ever gets 'missed', 'lost' and many women will go looking themselves if they want something. | |||
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" I honestly feel the amount of crud on here (any gender) makes it easier for the ones I'm looking for to stand out. " Yup, a decent message and well written profile stands out a mile. | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her. I completely disagree. The good guys really stand out in my inbox and I take the time to read every message, as I know do many of my single lady friends on here. Nothing ever gets 'missed', 'lost' and many women will go looking themselves if they want something. " Then perhaps you're an exception, I'd imagine there are many women on here who would LIKE to read through every message in their inbox, because they believe that somewhere in there may just be a man who intrigues and excites her, but that passion has begun to wain due to the constant influx of drek telling her this next search will probably prove fruitless. | |||
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" I honestly feel the amount of crud on here (any gender) makes it easier for the ones I'm looking for to stand out. Yup, a decent message and well written profile stands out a mile. " Agreed. I don't have to read everything in my inbox because you can tell by the profile name, profile photo and the first line of the message whether it's going to be what I'm looking for. | |||
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" I honestly feel the amount of crud on here (any gender) makes it easier for the ones I'm looking for to stand out. Yup, a decent message and well written profile stands out a mile. Agreed. I don't have to read everything in my inbox because you can tell by the profile name, profile photo and the first line of the message whether it's going to be what I'm looking for." Yup. And if the text goes over a single line break it is already one in a hundred!! | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her. I completely disagree. The good guys really stand out in my inbox and I take the time to read every message, as I know do many of my single lady friends on here. Nothing ever gets 'missed', 'lost' and many women will go looking themselves if they want something. Then perhaps you're an exception, I'd imagine there are many women on here who would LIKE to read through every message in their inbox, because they believe that somewhere in there may just be a man who intrigues and excites her, but that passion has begun to wain due to the constant influx of drek telling her this next search will probably prove fruitless." Erm, you forget the reason why many of us ladies are here perhaps. Your analysis of women's fab behaviours is all very pie in the sky. Not sure if you were referring to your own experiences as such but if you're getting no replies, it's possibly due to something you are doing perhaps. Or they just aren't attracted to you. | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her." I agree with that last paragraph especially. I often have several guys i want to meet at once, sometimes a lot more, but i just don't repy to them coz i'm meeting someone already, then i hope they message me back next time i'm looking coz i do keep their messages and intend to reply when i'm free but forget and 3 weeks later i realise i forgot to reply. Same for just replying to messages even. Get loads of cruddy ones, but then loads of good ones at once and you're already chatting usually and can't talk to everyone. | |||
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"Just seen that there is 7500 people on here. 200 are single ladies that's why we struggle guys." I don't struggle ta. | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her. I completely disagree. The good guys really stand out in my inbox and I take the time to read every message, as I know do many of my single lady friends on here. Nothing ever gets 'missed', 'lost' and many women will go looking themselves if they want something. Then perhaps you're an exception, I'd imagine there are many women on here who would LIKE to read through every message in their inbox, because they believe that somewhere in there may just be a man who intrigues and excites her, but that passion has begun to wain due to the constant influx of drek telling her this next search will probably prove fruitless. Erm, you forget the reason why many of us ladies are here perhaps. Your analysis of women's fab behaviours is all very pie in the sky. Not sure if you were referring to your own experiences as such but if you're getting no replies, it's possibly due to something you are doing perhaps. Or they just aren't attracted to you." Couldn't be, if I were any more lush I could open a chain of stores that sell fancy toiletries. | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her. I completely disagree. The good guys really stand out in my inbox and I take the time to read every message, as I know do many of my single lady friends on here. Nothing ever gets 'missed', 'lost' and many women will go looking themselves if they want something. Then perhaps you're an exception, I'd imagine there are many women on here who would LIKE to read through every message in their inbox, because they believe that somewhere in there may just be a man who intrigues and excites her, but that passion has begun to wain due to the constant influx of drek telling her this next search will probably prove fruitless. Erm, you forget the reason why many of us ladies are here perhaps. Your analysis of women's fab behaviours is all very pie in the sky. Not sure if you were referring to your own experiences as such but if you're getting no replies, it's possibly due to something you are doing perhaps. Or they just aren't attracted to you. Couldn't be, if I were any more lush I could open a chain of stores that sell fancy toiletries." But seriously though, I can actually take rejection if I feel the woman isn't simply doing it to be unpleasant, last night for example I messaged a gorgeous woman, who replied saying that she read my profile and wasn't interested because she didn't find bald men attractive. I made a joke saying I could wear a wig, but ultimately didn't take it personally, she was very polite and I respected her enough to not hassle her over her preferences. | |||
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"It is interesting to see what messages are sent and responded to. My bf and I both have single profiles as well as a couple one. I dont tend to send messages too much, but he does, usually very complimentary about picks etc, and they are usually ignored. Similarly, people who he has tried to converse with but have ignored him, now try to be nice to him on our couple profile. I have received many, many abusive messages over the years, but have seen the other side too now. " supply & demand! | |||
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"In the case of a lot of the guys that struggle on here, there are reasons for their lack of success. Those things are usually at least partly within the control of the man himself. But it's much easier to blame the site, or the numbers, or the women, or the other guys... than to look to oneself, accept any responsibility and make changes to improve one's chances. The men that make the effort, present themselves in ways that appeal most to the women/couples, don't whinge and moan and don't make excuses and blame everyone else are usually the ones that have the success." ^ this, yes. | |||
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"It is interesting to see what messages are sent and responded to. My bf and I both have single profiles as well as a couple one. I dont tend to send messages too much, but he does, usually very complimentary about picks etc, and they are usually ignored. Similarly, people who he has tried to converse with but have ignored him, now try to be nice to him on our couple profile. I have received many, many abusive messages over the years, but have seen the other side too now. supply & demand! " Rather quantity verses quality | |||
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"In the case of a lot of the guys that struggle on here, there are reasons for their lack of success. Those things are usually at least partly within the control of the man himself. But it's much easier to blame the site, or the numbers, or the women, or the other guys... than to look to oneself, accept any responsibility and make changes to improve one's chances. The men that make the effort, present themselves in ways that appeal most to the women/couples, don't whinge and moan and don't make excuses and blame everyone else are usually the ones that have the success." VV has it in one, again. There will always be some who are lower down the pecking order of being desired but taking note of VV's points will stand all in good stead. | |||
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"The arsehole single guys of fab have had a lucky escape by not meeting some of the arsehole single lady's of fab I'd say. Talk about men haters. They need help to get over there issues " I rest my case! You only have to look at my local status' to see comments like this and alot worse. The good guys do stand out with dross like this over whelming the site. | |||
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"Whether the ratio is 1:10, 1:100 or 1:1000 that one woman, even if part of a couple, rarely restricts herself to one man: think bukakee, gang bangs, MFM, 3 or 4 individuals in one week, whatever. So, if you're struggling under those circumstances, personally I'd class struggling as less than one meet a fortnight, it's because you aren't appealing in looks and/or personality to the opposite sex. Or, if you don't have much trouble attracting women away from Fab, it's your written communication skills that are shite. And I don't mean grammar or spelling." Less than one meet a fortnight??? Kin ell I've had 2 meets in over a year. Don't piss and moan about it though lol. | |||
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"Roughly 34 men to every woman" I've seen a short film about that on the Internet | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. " Never a truer spoken!!! | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. I'd agree with this, over the years, having seen the things many chancers post, and the feedback from the women who hear from them, most guys on here wouldn't know how to approach a woman in the street and ask her the time, let alone broach the delicate subject of sex with a stranger. The numbers do indeed make a huge difference though, a man can be as intelligent, humorous, good looking and personable as it takes to have a realistic chance with many women, but they matter little if he's thrust so far down in her inbox (probably by the messages from shit guys previously mentioned) that she doesn't even know he's messaged her." I believe most women look at all the messages they receive. As said above, the name, avatar and first line are useful for fast filtering. If you don't get those right you won't get past the first stage. For the second stage you need decent photos and an appealing profile. Pass that stage and your message will be read and assessed. That's how it works for me and a lot of the women I know on here say they do more or less the same. The decent prospects really do stand out quite quickly and with little effort on my part. We've all heard you complain at length that you don't get a chance because women don't see your messages. I think that's unlikely to be true in the majority of cases. If your messages are being ignored, you're doing something to put them off, you're too far away or they just don't fancy you. I know the reason for your name, for example, because I use the fora. If I didn't, I'd take it as a sign you're likely to be an arrogant arse. Maybe it is that you are sending the wrong signals. | |||
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"No men struggle on here because the majority are total pricks who would struggle in the real world due to a lack of basic social skills. " And there was me trying to be diplomatic for once but yes, this. I don't know if I'd say the majority. I haven't exchanged messages with enough to make that call, but certainly, in my experience, a very large number. | |||
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" I honestly feel the amount of crud on here (any gender) makes it easier for the ones I'm looking for to stand out. Yup, a decent message and well written profile stands out a mile. Agreed. I don't have to read everything in my inbox because you can tell by the profile name, profile photo and the first line of the message whether it's going to be what I'm looking for." This! | |||
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" I honestly feel the amount of crud on here (any gender) makes it easier for the ones I'm looking for to stand out. Yup, a decent message and well written profile stands out a mile. Agreed. I don't have to read everything in my inbox because you can tell by the profile name, profile photo and the first line of the message whether it's going to be what I'm looking for. This! " Now be honest, you know that you miss loads of wonderful prospects who are, in fact, God's gift to women, simply because you are unable to cope with the volume of mail you receive. It's the only possible reason that these amazing catches aren't getting the replies and worship they deserve. | |||
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"I don't find the ratio to be as much of a problem as my selectiveness " Ironic, isn't it, that lack of pickiness is one of the reasons some of the complainers struggle? Any suggestion that a man will shag anyone and sees every hole as a goal will have most women moving right on to the next profile. Selective = fewer options Not selective = fewer options | |||
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"So many people with huge issues on this thread, way to go some , you have alienated some decent people! In my experience, some women, are just cunts, who make a guy jump through hoops, to satisfy their delusional wannabe status of having a wet hole to fuck. " 100% agree | |||
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"In my experience, some women, are just cunts, who make a guy jump through hoops, to satisfy their delusional wannabe status of having a wet hole to fuck. " | |||
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"So many people with huge issues on this thread, way to go some , you have alienated some decent people! In my experience, some women, are just cunts, who make a guy jump through hoops, to satisfy their delusional wannabe status of having a wet hole to fuck. " This is how a lot of men think on this site. They treat women as mere life supports for pussy and then wonder why they struggle. My standards on here are the same as in real life - if you're rude, crude or can't be bothered to converse with me like a human being then I'm not interested. | |||
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" I honestly feel the amount of crud on here (any gender) makes it easier for the ones I'm looking for to stand out. Yup, a decent message and well written profile stands out a mile. Agreed. I don't have to read everything in my inbox because you can tell by the profile name, profile photo and the first line of the message whether it's going to be what I'm looking for. This! Now be honest, you know that you miss loads of wonderful prospects who are, in fact, God's gift to women, simply because you are unable to cope with the volume of mail you receive. It's the only possible reason that these amazing catches aren't getting the replies and worship they deserve. " Is this the point I add "my loss?!!" | |||
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" I honestly feel the amount of crud on here (any gender) makes it easier for the ones I'm looking for to stand out. Yup, a decent message and well written profile stands out a mile. Agreed. I don't have to read everything in my inbox because you can tell by the profile name, profile photo and the first line of the message whether it's going to be what I'm looking for. This! Now be honest, you know that you miss loads of wonderful prospects who are, in fact, God's gift to women, simply because you are unable to cope with the volume of mail you receive. It's the only possible reason that these amazing catches aren't getting the replies and worship they deserve. Is this the point I add "my loss?!!" " Of course. The Fabs byelaws must be respected, even if the women/men (delete according to personal preference) are not. | |||
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"So many people with huge issues on this thread, way to go some , you have alienated some decent people! In my experience, some women, are just cunts, who make a guy jump through hoops, to satisfy their delusional wannabe status of having a wet hole to fuck. " Of course there are women like that, there's quite a lot of them! Who only get away with it if the men don't show enough self respect to just tell them to piss off (which I would, if I was a man!) | |||
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"The arsehole single guys of fab have had a lucky escape by not meeting some of the arsehole single lady's of fab I'd say. Talk about men haters. They need help to get over there issues " Says the guy that has been on 3 weeks.... | |||
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