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P.S. I admit that I hope to be celebrating the fall of the ConDems....  | |||
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"Sorry never have probably never will "Well that's a cop out! Lol | |||
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"Sorry never have probably never will "this is where we will disagree, i think for what people have been thru for the right to secure the vote... you dishonour them... even it is it just to spoil the ballot paper.. or write "none of the above" on it.... people should go into that ballot box... I think if you don't vote... then please dont complain... but you had a chance in your own little way to make a difference.... | |||
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"Sorry never have probably never will
this is where we will disagree, i think for what people have been thru for the right to secure the vote... you dishonour them...
even it is it just to spoil the ballot paper.. or write "none of the above" on it.... people should go into that ballot box...
I think if you don't vote... then please dont complain... but you had a chance in your own little way to make a difference...."disagree? I ain't dishonoured anybody i am just exercise my right not to vote which i can do! There is absolutely no point in going to "spoil the ballot paper" (in my opinion of course) I won't vote and i won't complain either because i believe it won't make any difference but if you do fair enough go ahead and vote but don't try and make me feel bad about the choices i'm making i can live with my decision not to vote | |||
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"It should be compulsory like in Australia. " I'm surprised it hasn't been introduced - think of the money they'd raise in fines. | |||
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"It should be compulsory like in Australia. " Ha ha, in a liberal democracy, no way. There again, i'd settle for that if "None of the above" was a valid voting option. Wasn't it Belgium who went something like One and a half years without a parliament and nothing much went wrong. Mind you, you could argue that nothing much happens at any time in Belgium ( apart from brewing good beers) | |||
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" even it is it just to spoil the ballot paper.. or write "none of the above" on it.... people should go into that ballot box... I think if you don't vote... then please dont complain......" But you wouldn't be voting if you spoil the ballot paper or write none of the above either. | |||
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"It should be compulsory like in Australia. I'm surprised it hasn't been introduced - think of the money they'd raise in fines. " Force people into democracy?! | |||
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"I do hope all you Peeps will use your vote tomorrow regardless of how you vote!
P.S. I admit that I hope to be celebrating the fall of the ConDems.... "Not even considering it, I'm an anarchist.... I'm fine with chaos. | |||
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"tomorrow could be my first vote ever" is it bristol west... that race is fascinating.... the greens think they have a brilliant shot at winning that seat... | |||
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"tomorrow could be my first vote ever is it bristol west... that race is fascinating.... the greens think they have a brilliant shot at winning that seat..." yes mate bristol west. seeing vote green in nearly every window down here | |||
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"It should be compulsory like in Australia. I'm surprised it hasn't been introduced - think of the money they'd raise in fines. Force people into democracy?!" The government forces us to do lots of things. Why would the system that legitimises a government, who will force legislation on people, not be better served by having a representative view of every member of the public who meets the voting criteria? They could vote for 'I don't wish to cast a vote' or 'none of the above' but they are still taking part in the democratic process. I don't know if not voting counts as being democratic. I'm sure there's a philosophical argument to be had there another time. | |||
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"tomorrow could be my first vote ever is it bristol west... that race is fascinating.... the greens think they have a brilliant shot at winning that seat..." . Yep been on the campaign trail for the last two weeks here, I'll stake my reputation as d*unken wine connoisseur that it's in the bag  | |||
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"tomorrow could be my first vote ever is it bristol west... that race is fascinating.... the greens think they have a brilliant shot at winning that seat..." God help them if the greens get in - ask those in Brighton how that went for them ! | |||
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"tomorrow could be my first vote ever is it bristol west... that race is fascinating.... the greens think they have a brilliant shot at winning that seat... God help them if the greens get in - ask those in Brighton how that went for them !" . All things considered Brighton's done alright | |||
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"Sorry never have probably never will
this is where we will disagree, i think for what people have been thru for the right to secure the vote... you dishonour them...
even it is it just to spoil the ballot paper.. or write "none of the above" on it.... people should go into that ballot box...
I think if you don't vote... then please dont complain... but you had a chance in your own little way to make a difference...." | |||
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"tomorrow could be my first vote ever is it bristol west... that race is fascinating.... the greens think they have a brilliant shot at winning that seat... God help them if the greens get in - ask those in Brighton how that went for them !" the greens may lose the council... but as mp's go caroline lucas is probably one of the best for focusing on local issues in westminster... as much as it pains me to say so is douglas carswell for ukip in clacton...... | |||
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"Sorry never have probably never will
this is where we will disagree, i think for what people have been thru for the right to secure the vote... you dishonour them...
even it is it just to spoil the ballot paper.. or write "none of the above" on it.... people should go into that ballot box...
I think if you don't vote... then please dont complain... but you had a chance in your own little way to make a difference....
"But you wouldn't be voting if you spoil the ballot paper or write none of the above | |||
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"I do hope all you Peeps will use your vote tomorrow regardless of how you vote!
P.S. I admit that I hope to be celebrating the fall of the ConDems....
Not even considering it, I'm an anarchist.... I'm fine with chaos. "Anarchy is a temporary state, always followed by a dictatorship. This will eventually be followed by other dictatorships after some kind af coup d'etat, then maybe a peoples revolution leading, eventually to some kind of democracy. If you want to see anarchy in action, go to Somalis, see if you are OK with chaos after that. | |||
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"It should be compulsory like in Australia. " I agree, that way if lets say for example 20% of people spoil a ballot paper, politicians can finally come to terms with how out of touch they are with people in the UK. Hopefully it would make people read party manifestos more. On this note, I'll say I've pretty much decided to vote green. | |||
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"It should be compulsory like in Australia. Ha ha, in a liberal democracy, no way. There again, i'd settle for that if "None of the above" was a valid voting option. Wasn't it Belgium who went something like One and a half years without a parliament and nothing much went wrong. Mind you, you could argue that nothing much happens at any time in Belgium ( apart from brewing good beers)" The only way we can truly achieve democracy is if every citizen votes - if that means making voting compulsory in order to ensure everyone voices their opinion so be it. | |||
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"Seems like Gus O'Donnell is having to remind Cameron of the very agreement he signed up to with regards to who can form a government. The Tories will try to cling on to power like Andrew Neil clings to that head hamster. " hey... no dissing andrew neil this campaign... him on daily politics roasting the parties has been one of the few highlight of watching politicians gets really uncomfortable... i wish he had been the one interviewing the leaders as he would have had hanging over coals.... 
p.s thats not a hamster on his head.. everyone knows its a ferret!!! | |||
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" There is absolutely no point in going to "spoil the ballot paper" (in my opinion of course) I won't vote and i won't complain either because i believe it won't make any difference but if you do fair enough go ahead and vote but don't try and make me feel bad about the choices i'm making i can live with my decision not to vote" That is crap! At the last general election there was a 65% turn out. That means that 16 of the 46 million registered voters ere like you and didn't bother. That's more than any of the parties polled! Do you really think that if 16 million spoiled their votes that the politicians wouldn't take notice and change their ways? | |||
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"tomorrow could be my first vote ever is it bristol west... that race is fascinating.... the greens think they have a brilliant shot at winning that seat... God help them if the greens get in - ask those in Brighton how that went for them ! the greens may lose the council... but as mp's go caroline lucas is probably one of the best for focusing on local issues in westminster... as much as it pains me to say so is douglas carswell for ukip in clacton......" If the Greens losing Bristol Council means the twat George gets the boot then that can only be a good thing! That man is such a hippocrite! Mr "I cycle everywhere and always use public transport! George got done for spedding whilst driving a Council pool car!!! The Greens? Bring `em on! George can go and get fooked! | |||
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" Do you really think that if 16 million spoiled their votes that the politicians wouldn't take notice and change their ways? " To be honest, no, I don't think it matters. They're successfully ignoring the 16m now for a start! It's a bit of a cheap shot, but none of them seem to be delivering on their manifestos these days either, so you could claim that they also ignore the 30m that DO vote! I actually agree that voting should be compulsory, although I'd be more interested in coming up with a system that a) prevented MP self-interest leading to a "snouts in the trough" attitude once elected, b) forced a long term view to legislation instead of a five year one (or more commonly a reactive, "shutting the barn door" approach when something happens) You can probably tell that I find politics deeply depressing - with a choice between rebuilding the deficit, losing the NHS, becoming a nation of racists, banning cars, or the lib dems, toothless cretins that they've been. | |||
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"Sorry never have probably never will
this is where we will disagree, i think for what people have been thru for the right to secure the vote... you dishonour them...
even it is it just to spoil the ballot paper.. or write "none of the above" on it.... people should go into that ballot box...
I think if you don't vote... then please dont complain... but you had a chance in your own little way to make a difference...."Absolutely spot on brother. | |||
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"My biggest issue with the current voting system is that, on a ballot paper, there is no way to officially register a 'None of the above' vote. Writing 'None of the Above' on the ballot voids it - you may as well draw a picture of a nice fat cock. Voters should be able to register that None of the political parties are meeting their needs and that this should be reflected in the overall results. My guess is that the political system would be too scared to give the voting public that sort of option because of the results it may yield. Yet I feel that more people would vote to register that they are dissatisfied with the state of the political landscape - perhaps many of those 16 million that didn't vote didn't do so because of this very fact. After all, what's the overall difference between not voting and soiling your ballot when the outcome is the same? " Spoilt ballot papers are counted and reported | |||
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"My biggest issue with the current voting system is that, on a ballot paper, there is no way to officially register a 'None of the above' vote. Writing 'None of the Above' on the ballot voids it - you may as well draw a picture of a nice fat cock. Voters should be able to register that None of the political parties are meeting their needs and that this should be reflected in the overall results. My guess is that the political system would be too scared to give the voting public that sort of option because of the results it may yield. Yet I feel that more people would vote to register that they are dissatisfied with the state of the political landscape - perhaps many of those 16 million that didn't vote didn't do so because of this very fact. After all, what's the overall difference between not voting and soiling your ballot when the outcome is the same? Spoilt ballot papers are counted and reported "Yes, but only as spoilt, which is not the same as a 'No' vote for the parties on offer. I'm my view, a spoilt vote is the same as abstention, neither actually gets a point across. | |||
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" Do you really think that if 16 million spoiled their votes that the politicians wouldn't take notice and change their ways? To be honest, no, I don't think it matters. They're successfully ignoring the 16m now for a start! It's a bit of a cheap shot, but none of them seem to be delivering on their manifestos these days either, so you could claim that they also ignore the 30m that DO vote! I actually agree that voting should be compulsory, although I'd be more interested in coming up with a system that a) prevented MP self-interest leading to a "snouts in the trough" attitude once elected, b) forced a long term view to legislation instead of a five year one (or more commonly a reactive, "shutting the barn door" approach when something happens) You can probably tell that I find politics deeply depressing - with a choice between rebuilding the deficit, losing the NHS, becoming a nation of racists, banning cars, or the lib dems, toothless cretins that they've been. " I agree with most of what you say especially about voting being compulsory. However I profoundly disagree with you about spoiled ballots. The bottom line is if you fail to vote what you are saying by default is you have no views or interest in who represents you or governs the country. Therefore also by default you are supporting whoever gets elected and give a green light to anyone who does not like your opinions to ignore them. If you make the effort to spoil your paper your vote is recorded and published (the number of spoiled papers is the last figure to be read out by the returning officer (or their deputy)). If there were 16 million papers all spoiled saying none of them it is guaranteed that the party workers who act as scrutineers and the candidates who attend the counts and examine all that are not completed with the correct number of single 'X's in the boxes provided would be on the phones to their superiors! A spoiled vote is counted and counts, not voting does not! Everyone if you are unhappy with your candidates spoil your ballot but please use your vote don't waste it! | |||
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"A spoilt ballot is not the same as a no confidence vote. " Spoken like a true party manager, and true up to a point. However if the 16 million who fail to vote all spoiled their ballots then those numbers could not be ignored! I would love to wake up tomorrow to headlines saying that in 500/600+ constituencies there were more spoiled papers than votes cast for the winner and that the message on most was some variation on none of them. It would be interesting to see how Camorn Cleg Miliband and their public mouthpieces would be available to give interviews! Somehow I think they would all become very camera shy! | |||
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"Sorry never have probably never will
this is where we will disagree, i think for what people have been thru for the right to secure the vote... you dishonour them...
even it is it just to spoil the ballot paper.. or write "none of the above" on it.... people should go into that ballot box...
I think if you don't vote... then please dont complain... but you had a chance in your own little way to make a difference...." | |||
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"I think we should deal with the taxation of trade routes along the outer rim, before it develops into a wider crisis" Lol, interesting point you raise. | |||
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" What irritates me is having to hold my tongue and be civil when the Liberal twat outside the polling booth asks if i've voted for them. Or maybe i should go early and tell him all the reasons (Clegg, fucking useless local councillors etc) why i may not have done. " My answer to the question they ask 'Do you mind saying how you voted' is 'with a cross' | |||
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"When I went to cast my vote,there was a choice on there of 'Alcohol is better than cannabis'." I think it's 'Cannabis Is Safer Than Alcohol'.  | |||
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"When I went to cast my vote,there was a choice on there of 'Alcohol is better than cannabis'. I think it's 'Cannabis Is Safer Than Alcohol'. "Oh yeah could well be ,doh | |||
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