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"Cos more men want casual sex than women, simples." More men want it, or more woman just don't like to admit it? | |||
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"Because there are more cheating husbands than there are wife's " Or at least more men that try lol | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men " No, we don't. At 41, I am waaay past being a girl. | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab?" Because women are not as lazy as men. Woman want's sex, she has a long bath, removes all body hair below the neck and moisturises powders and otherwise cares for every square inch of her body, all the time working through the inventory of outfits coordinating everything from underwear to jewellery, then ages with makeup, eyelash curlers, hair products, then goes out and finds a man. Man wants sex, he sprays on deodorant, sniffs his socks to check they are below WMD level, bungs on jeans and t-shirt and posts "fancy a fuck" on a website | |||
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"Why do birds suddenly appear..? " Every time you are near? | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? " He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men No, we don't. At 41, I am waaay past being a girl." I don't mind call me what you like so long as I get a shag out of it | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though." The title says men How many points did I score | |||
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"Because men think its easier to get a fuck online lol " And the winning answer is....... | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though." | |||
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"Women don't need to be on here if they want sex all they need do is ask guys half will say yes" If that's true I must be really fecking ugly | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Because women are not as lazy as men. Woman want's sex, she has a long bath, removes all body hair below the neck and moisturises powders and otherwise cares for every square inch of her body, all the time working through the inventory of outfits coordinating everything from underwear to jewellery, then ages with makeup, eyelash curlers, hair products, then goes out and finds a man. Man wants sex, he sprays on deodorant, sniffs his socks to check they are below WMD level, bungs on jeans and t-shirt and posts "fancy a fuck" on a website " Or maybe it's as simple as that the dynamics of dating are incredibly skewed on the favour of women in their youth. This swings back towards men later on in life. Also coupled with males generally having a higher sex drive. | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. The title says men How many points did I score " 10 | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. The title says men How many points did I score 10 " Cool How many do I need to get a shag? | |||
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"Cos more men want casual sex than women, simples. More men want it, or more woman just don't like to admit it?" No more want it. Far more of my male friends play the field and all my female friends hold out for a relationship and think I am mad being on here. | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Because women are not as lazy as men. Woman want's sex, she has a long bath, removes all body hair below the neck and moisturises powders and otherwise cares for every square inch of her body, all the time working through the inventory of outfits coordinating everything from underwear to jewellery, then ages with makeup, eyelash curlers, hair products, then goes out and finds a man. Man wants sex, he sprays on deodorant, sniffs his socks to check they are below WMD level, bungs on jeans and t-shirt and posts "fancy a fuck" on a website " Haha, very good! | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. The title says men How many points did I score " Detective Inspector Anon of the PC police here. Well done NN for being able to read the title of the thread, which some boys aren't capable of. | |||
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"Because men think its easier to get a fuck online lol And the winning answer is....... " | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. The title says men How many points did I score Detective Inspector Anon of the PC police here. Well done NN for being able to read the title of the thread, which some boys aren't capable of. " Do I score extra points for that | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. The title says men How many points did I score Detective Inspector Anon of the PC police here. Well done NN for being able to read the title of the thread, which some boys aren't capable of. Do I score extra points for that " As many as you like | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab?" # same reason there isnt a straight version of grindr? | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. The title says men How many points did I score " Ah. .but. But...but...but... His opening post is different from his title..... | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though." It was a genuine question, I don't need to score points off anyone. I'll ask what I like thanks. | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. The title says men How many points did I score 10 Cool How many do I need to get a shag? " 10 for girls 20 for women. | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Because women are not as lazy as men. Woman want's sex, she has a long bath, removes all body hair below the neck and moisturises powders and otherwise cares for every square inch of her body, all the time working through the inventory of outfits coordinating everything from underwear to jewellery, then ages with makeup, eyelash curlers, hair products, then goes out and finds a man. Man wants sex, he sprays on deodorant, sniffs his socks to check they are below WMD level, bungs on jeans and t-shirt and posts "fancy a fuck" on a website " Haha this has made me giggle | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. It was a genuine question, I don't need to score points off anyone. I'll ask what I like thanks. " Didn't say you couldn't ask it. Just pointing out your agenda would you have been so indignant if he'd have said boys and women? | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. It was a genuine question, I don't need to score points off anyone. I'll ask what I like thanks. Didn't say you couldn't ask it. Just pointing out your agenda would you have been so indignant if he'd have said boys and women? " I didn't get 'indignant' from that post? Maybe if I'd asked the question I would have added more outrage. | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. It was a genuine question, I don't need to score points off anyone. I'll ask what I like thanks. Didn't say you couldn't ask it. Just pointing out your agenda would you have been so indignant if he'd have said boys and women? " Every man on the site would have been indignant if he'd referred to them as boys. | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men No, we don't. At 41, I am waaay past being a girl. I don't mind call me what you like so long as I get a shag out of it " Hey beautiful | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. It was a genuine question, I don't need to score points off anyone. I'll ask what I like thanks. Didn't say you couldn't ask it. Just pointing out your agenda would you have been so indignant if he'd have said boys and women? " I didn't know asking a simple question was showing indignance or an agenda. But keep on trying to twist it. "Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't." How many PC points for that? | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Because women are not as lazy as men. Woman want's sex, she has a long bath, removes all body hair below the neck and moisturises powders and otherwise cares for every square inch of her body, all the time working through the inventory of outfits coordinating everything from underwear to jewellery, then ages with makeup, eyelash curlers, hair products, then goes out and finds a man. Man wants sex, he sprays on deodorant, sniffs his socks to check they are below WMD level, bungs on jeans and t-shirt and posts "fancy a fuck" on a website Or maybe it's as simple as that the dynamics of dating are incredibly skewed on the favour of women in their youth. This swings back towards men later on in life. Also coupled with males generally having a higher sex drive. " Higher sex drive? In their 40's? Lol | |||
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"Cos more men want casual sex than women, simples. More men want it, or more woman just don't like to admit it? No more want it. Far more of my male friends play the field and all my female friends hold out for a relationship and think I am mad being on here. " I think your liberated . | |||
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"Men generally just need to try harder. Even Shags become celibate and not due to lack of good effort. A lot of men are good at competing, or trying but not at actually achieving or winning." Yes I don't put anymore effort in these days as it just gets to boring lol. I do compete tho to have a good body | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? " Who cares? Maybe start a new thread to get at the bottom of this misogynistic attitude of men on fab? | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Because women are not as lazy as men. Woman want's sex, she has a long bath, removes all body hair below the neck and moisturises powders and otherwise cares for every square inch of her body, all the time working through the inventory of outfits coordinating everything from underwear to jewellery, then ages with makeup, eyelash curlers, hair products, then goes out and finds a man. Man wants sex, he sprays on deodorant, sniffs his socks to check they are below WMD level, bungs on jeans and t-shirt and posts "fancy a fuck" on a website " I love this description as it is all true, also takes me ages to get ready for a meet | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Because women are not as lazy as men. Woman want's sex, she has a long bath, removes all body hair below the neck and moisturises powders and otherwise cares for every square inch of her body, all the time working through the inventory of outfits coordinating everything from underwear to jewellery, then ages with makeup, eyelash curlers, hair products, then goes out and finds a man. Man wants sex, he sprays on deodorant, sniffs his socks to check they are below WMD level, bungs on jeans and t-shirt and posts "fancy a fuck" on a website " ....man gets fed up and has a wank.... | |||
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"I think more men are just more honest with themselves " Or deluded | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. The title says men How many points did I score Detective Inspector Anon of the PC police here. Well done NN for being able to read the title of the thread, which some boys aren't capable of. " Lol | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? He said guys not men. Men and girls would have a slightly sexist undertone, guys and girls just doesn't. Nice effort trying to score points with the PC police though. It was a genuine question, I don't need to score points off anyone. I'll ask what I like thanks. Didn't say you couldn't ask it. Just pointing out your agenda would you have been so indignant if he'd have said boys and women? I didn't get 'indignant' from that post? Maybe if I'd asked the question I would have added more outrage." Wasn't talking to yah there. Did use the old quote though.. Seems some boys can't read, and some girls forget what they've said. | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Because women are not as lazy as men. Woman want's sex, she has a long bath, removes all body hair below the neck and moisturises powders and otherwise cares for every square inch of her body, all the time working through the inventory of outfits coordinating everything from underwear to jewellery, then ages with makeup, eyelash curlers, hair products, then goes out and finds a man. Man wants sex, he sprays on deodorant, sniffs his socks to check they are below WMD level, bungs on jeans and t-shirt and posts "fancy a fuck" on a website Or maybe it's as simple as that the dynamics of dating are incredibly skewed on the favour of women in their youth. This swings back towards men later on in life. Also coupled with males generally having a higher sex drive. Higher sex drive? In their 40's? Lol" No generally, at any age. Generally being the key word of course. Obviously as testosterone production begins to wane, so does sex drive. Not to the same degree as some women going through the menopause though. | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab?" Because many of the single guys ain't that single. Also it's fair to say that because men are so dick driven women don't have to sell it that hard. | |||
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"I think more men are just more honest with themselves Or deluded " Lol | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men " Damn. I'm clearly not a woman then. | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men Damn. I'm clearly not a woman then. " Me either apparently. These boobs say differently, but they must be wrong - a man says so! | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men Damn. I'm clearly not a woman then. Me either apparently. These boobs say differently, but they must be wrong - a man says so! " So you have a 'woman's' night out on a Saturday then? | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men Damn. I'm clearly not a woman then. Me either apparently. These boobs say differently, but they must be wrong - a man says so! " Tits - check Vagina - check Likes being called girl - nope, clearly not a woman then. | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men Damn. I'm clearly not a woman then. Me either apparently. These boobs say differently, but they must be wrong - a man says so! So you have a 'woman's' night out on a Saturday then? " Nope, but I don't have a girls' night either, I just go out with my friends | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men Damn. I'm clearly not a woman then. Me either apparently. These boobs say differently, but they must be wrong - a man says so! So you have a 'woman's' night out on a Saturday then? " I have a night out on Saturday! I don't have an issue where there's parity. So girls night out/boys night out - no problem. But when females are referred to as girls but males as men in the same sentence then that's irksome. | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men Damn. I'm clearly not a woman then. Me either apparently. These boobs say differently, but they must be wrong - a man says so! So you have a 'woman's' night out on a Saturday then? I have a night out on Saturday! I don't have an issue where there's parity. So girls night out/boys night out - no problem. But when females are referred to as girls but males as men in the same sentence then that's irksome. " Ha ha, I've also used guy's and ladies, guess I just like variety lol Irksome? I may need to sort you out | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men Damn. I'm clearly not a woman then. Me either apparently. These boobs say differently, but they must be wrong - a man says so! So you have a 'woman's' night out on a Saturday then? I have a night out on Saturday! I don't have an issue where there's parity. So girls night out/boys night out - no problem. But when females are referred to as girls but males as men in the same sentence then that's irksome. " | |||
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"Why are women described as girls but men aren't described as boys? " This is the first thing that crossed my mind | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab?" Ok op! Put it this way! Let's say you have a 25 yr old son and a 25 yr old daughter! You find out your 25 yr old son is on fab - how do you feel? Then you find out your 25 yr old daughter is on fab - how do you feel now? Men on fab are heroes, good lads, between relationships etc etc! Women on fab are perceived as sluts, slags, slappers and lots of other things -- none positive!! It takes guts for a girl/woman to go on fab!! | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men " I don't. | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Ok op! Put it this way! Let's say you have a 25 yr old son and a 25 yr old daughter! You find out your 25 yr old son is on fab - how do you feel? Then you find out your 25 yr old daughter is on fab - how do you feel now? Men on fab are heroes, good lads, between relationships etc etc! Women on fab are perceived as sluts, slags, slappers and lots of other things -- none positive!! It takes guts for a girl/woman to go on fab!! " | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Because women are not as lazy as men. Woman want's sex, she has a long bath, removes all body hair below the neck and moisturises powders and otherwise cares for every square inch of her body, all the time working through the inventory of outfits coordinating everything from underwear to jewellery, then ages with makeup, eyelash curlers, hair products, then goes out and finds a man. Man wants sex, he sprays on deodorant, sniffs his socks to check they are below WMD level, bungs on jeans and t-shirt and posts "fancy a fuck" on a website I love this description as it is all true, also takes me ages to get ready for a meet " | |||
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"Cos more men want casual sex than women, simples." | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Ok op! Put it this way! Let's say you have a 25 yr old son and a 25 yr old daughter! You find out your 25 yr old son is on fab - how do you feel? Then you find out your 25 yr old daughter is on fab - how do you feel now? Men on fab are heroes, good lads, between relationships etc etc! Women on fab are perceived as sluts, slags, slappers and lots of other things -- none positive!! It takes guts for a girl/woman to go on fab!! " Love that cream crochet waistcoat kinky! Where's it from please? I want one! | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men Damn. I'm clearly not a woman then. Me either apparently. These boobs say differently, but they must be wrong - a man says so! So you have a 'woman's' night out on a Saturday then? I have a night out on Saturday! I don't have an issue where there's parity. So girls night out/boys night out - no problem. But when females are referred to as girls but males as men in the same sentence then that's irksome. " ^ this | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Ok op! Put it this way! Let's say you have a 25 yr old son and a 25 yr old daughter! You find out your 25 yr old son is on fab - how do you feel? Then you find out your 25 yr old daughter is on fab - how do you feel now? Men on fab are heroes, good lads, between relationships etc etc! Women on fab are perceived as sluts, slags, slappers and lots of other things -- none positive!! It takes guts for a girl/woman to go on fab!! " Very true. Do you think that is the only reason though? Do you think it is mainly men using those pejorative labels? Or other women? Do you think women call promiscuous men heroes and good lads? | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Ok op! Put it this way! Let's say you have a 25 yr old son and a 25 yr old daughter! You find out your 25 yr old son is on fab - how do you feel? Then you find out your 25 yr old daughter is on fab - how do you feel now? Men on fab are heroes, good lads, between relationships etc etc! Women on fab are perceived as sluts, slags, slappers and lots of other things -- none positive!! It takes guts for a girl/woman to go on fab!! Very true. Do you think that is the only reason though? Do you think it is mainly men using those pejorative labels? Or other women? Do you think women call promiscuous men heroes and good lads?" It's not the only reason - but I think it's a factor! Also whereas women talk/giggle about sex in general it tends to be non-specific! For that reason, perhaps, I'd never heard of fab until 14 months ago! I think it's both men and women who judge women! To some people, once on here we are 'damaged goods'! Even many of the single guys here on fab wouldn't want a relationship with a woman on fab because he 'knows where she's been!' Hypocracy at its best!! With the men - some women may not approve and it may even put some of them off - but some will not be put off and think they just need a 'good woman to settle down with' ! Double standards still rule - even in 2015! X | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? Ok op! Put it this way! Let's say you have a 25 yr old son and a 25 yr old daughter! You find out your 25 yr old son is on fab - how do you feel? Then you find out your 25 yr old daughter is on fab - how do you feel now? Men on fab are heroes, good lads, between relationships etc etc! Women on fab are perceived as sluts, slags, slappers and lots of other things -- none positive!! It takes guts for a girl/woman to go on fab!! Very true. Do you think that is the only reason though? Do you think it is mainly men using those pejorative labels? Or other women? Do you think women call promiscuous men heroes and good lads? It's not the only reason - but I think it's a factor! Also whereas women talk/giggle about sex in general it tends to be non-specific! For that reason, perhaps, I'd never heard of fab until 14 months ago! I think it's both men and women who judge women! To some people, once on here we are 'damaged goods'! Even many of the single guys here on fab wouldn't want a relationship with a woman on fab because he 'knows where she's been!' Hypocracy at its best!! With the men - some women may not approve and it may even put some of them off - but some will not be put off and think they just need a 'good woman to settle down with' ! Double standards still rule - even in 2015! X" There will always be double standards in such an area though. As men and women ultimately _iew sex and relationships in different ways. The issue is very complex, but nowhere near as simple as a societal derision of promiscuous women. It is a simple result of interpersonal relationship dynamics between men and women. Men are the pursuers, and so when they are successful they are congratulated. Women are the ones that are chased, so when they give up too quickly, they are considered 'easy'. It's not an ideal situation for men or women. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male"" Women getting called 'girls' is nothing to do with how long the word takes to type. It's to do with the idolisation of youth and the increasing pressure on women not to age ...to always be youthful and to be 'girls' so we reach the ridiculous situation where a 40 year old woman is called a 'girl'. | |||
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"Because women like to be called girls and boys like to be called men " Not this woman. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" Women getting called 'girls' is nothing to do with how long the word takes to type. It's to do with the idolisation of youth and the increasing pressure on women not to age ...to always be youthful and to be 'girls' so we reach the ridiculous situation where a 40 year old woman is called a 'girl'. " Never work in a factory where all the shop floor lads...blokes... are referred to as lads. Despite many being nearly 60. | |||
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"Because there are more cheating husbands than there are wife's " | |||
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"I like being called a girl or young lady, makes me feel all youthful " | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male"" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" Women getting called 'girls' is nothing to do with how long the word takes to type. It's to do with the idolisation of youth and the increasing pressure on women not to age ...to always be youthful and to be 'girls' so we reach the ridiculous situation where a 40 year old woman is called a 'girl'. " And the male need to patronise women. It's my opinion that men who call us "girls" can't handle women or the thought of real grown up functioning adult women with proper sexual needs. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. " How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. | |||
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" And the male need to patronise women. " She said patronisingly.... | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" Women getting called 'girls' is nothing to do with how long the word takes to type. It's to do with the idolisation of youth and the increasing pressure on women not to age ...to always be youthful and to be 'girls' so we reach the ridiculous situation where a 40 year old woman is called a 'girl'. " .......said the Brown eyed girl? ? | |||
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" And the male need to patronise women. She said patronisingly...." That wasn't written patronisingly | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal." I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. | |||
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" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. " That's your personal preference though. As such i wouldn't refer to you as girl. However lots of women actually like it as it makes them feel more youthful. Censorship of others language based on personal preference is always wrong. | |||
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"I really don't care..." and that's about the best attitude to have | |||
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"Cos more men want casual sex than women, simples." And that is it in a nutshell. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal." I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. | |||
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"I really don't care... and that's about the best attitude to have " honestly there are days I come on here and think WTF angst on top of angst over nothing | |||
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" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. That's your personal preference though. As such i wouldn't refer to you as girl. However lots of women actually like it as it makes them feel more youthful. Censorship of others language based on personal preference is always wrong. " Oh please You're doing people actually being subjected to censorship a bit of a disservice here. If someone likes to be referred to as a girl then of course I'm not going to object to that. But lots of women don't, for very good reason - which seems as good a reason as any not to use it when you're referring to women and you don't know if it's what they like. | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab?" The majority of single guys on here do not make it a safe place for ladies to interact freely. Less is definitely the way to achieve more | |||
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" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. That's your personal preference though. As such i wouldn't refer to you as girl. However lots of women actually like it as it makes them feel more youthful. Censorship of others language based on personal preference is always wrong. " Referring to an individual woman as a girl, when you know she doesn't mind, is one thing but referring to all women, most of them strangers, as girls is not really appropriate. It's not censorship of a language to expect people to use the words appropriately, and not refer to a whole group of people with a term some will find ridiculous and objectionable. | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? The majority of single guys on here do not make it a safe place for ladies to interact freely. Less is definitely the way to achieve more " what | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. " Ah, lasses, yes, with lads that works ok. It's certainly better than girls. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. " Ok put it this way how would you react if a male friend of yours introduced his new partner as hey this x my womanfriend. It's just that woman doesn't really flow in many sentences so isn't used so becomes more and more formal and unusual. Honestly when I've used girl I've never even thought about it as a youth age non adult thing it's just the generic term for women. man is more of a generic term for men though cause it fits in easier. For instance I can great someone with "alright man how's it going" Yet "alright right woman how's it going" sounds ludicrous. But "alright girl hows it goign" sounds overly familiar. It's a gross oversimplification to look at the use of the word girl as infantalising it's often used by women to refer to each other too. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. Ah, lasses, yes, with lads that works ok. It's certainly better than girls." Yet men and lasses - still not right | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab? The majority of single guys on here do not make it a safe place for ladies to interact freely. Less is definitely the way to achieve more what " Fewer men may encourage more women here, maybe? Or less pestering and crass behaviour is the way to get more meets? Who knows? | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. Ok put it this way how would you react if a male friend of yours introduced his new partner as hey this x my womanfriend. It's just that woman doesn't really flow in many sentences so isn't used so becomes more and more formal and unusual. Honestly when I've used girl I've never even thought about it as a youth age non adult thing it's just the generic term for women. man is more of a generic term for men though cause it fits in easier. For instance I can great someone with "alright man how's it going" Yet "alright right woman how's it going" sounds ludicrous. But "alright girl hows it goign" sounds overly familiar. It's a gross oversimplification to look at the use of the word girl as infantalising it's often used by women to refer to each other too. " The girlfriend is example is a strange one unless you know a lot of people with menfriends | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. " I could point out that he in the actual post says guys and girls that it's likely he dint even notice he'd changed the wording for men ad they're more interchangeable. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. Ah, lasses, yes, with lads that works ok. It's certainly better than girls. Yet men and lasses - still not right " Agreed, the balance is what makes the difference. | |||
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"Why are there so many single guys vs single girls on fab?" They must be bloody masochists. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. Ok put it this way how would you react if a male friend of yours introduced his new partner as hey this x my womanfriend. It's just that woman doesn't really flow in many sentences so isn't used so becomes more and more formal and unusual. Honestly when I've used girl I've never even thought about it as a youth age non adult thing it's just the generic term for women. man is more of a generic term for men though cause it fits in easier. For instance I can great someone with "alright man how's it going" Yet "alright right woman how's it going" sounds ludicrous. But "alright girl hows it goign" sounds overly familiar. It's a gross oversimplification to look at the use of the word girl as infantalising it's often used by women to refer to each other too. The girlfriend is example is a strange one unless you know a lot of people with menfriends" I have often heard so an so is my man friend yes to imply intimacy but not love. | |||
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" Or less pestering and crass behaviour is the way to get more meets? Who knows? " Don't be so hard on the womenfolk... I think they are ok and not overly crass | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. I could point out that he in the actual post says guys and girls that it's likely he dint even notice he'd changed the wording for men ad they're more interchangeable. " Men and girls - as per the actual title of the post - struck me as looking unbalanced even before I'd opened the thread. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. I could point out that he in the actual post says guys and girls that it's likely he dint even notice he'd changed the wording for men ad they're more interchangeable. " This has been noted, and the title has been pointed out. He also said guys (implication adult) and girls. Not boys and girls, which are the equivalents of each other. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. " Split arse is my favourite | |||
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" Or less pestering and crass behaviour is the way to get more meets? Who knows? Don't be so hard on the womenfolk... I think they are ok and not overly crass " You ain't 'eard me on a Friday night after a few jars then darlin' | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. " What's interesting is that you dislike lady ad you belive it I plies specific behaviour yet then happily use lad and bloke as not having any behavioural or age implication. But lad would typically imply he's not yet a man. And bloke implies a certain manly behaviour. (Lad also implies behaviour these days see laddish etc) So your guilty of the same thing your blaming men of But the issue is because you don't see the implications of the word you don't see a problem just like most men don't go "ah ill call her girl to make her seem like a child" its just the word they use out of custom so they don't see a problem either. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. I could point out that he in the actual post says guys and girls that it's likely he dint even notice he'd changed the wording for men ad they're more interchangeable. This has been noted, and the title has been pointed out. He also said guys (implication adult) and girls. Not boys and girls, which are the equivalents of each other." only if you assume girls is implication of non adult which is unlikely. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. What's interesting is that you dislike lady ad you belive it I plies specific behaviour yet then happily use lad and bloke as not having any behavioural or age implication. But lad would typically imply he's not yet a man. And bloke implies a certain manly behaviour. (Lad also implies behaviour these days see laddish etc) So your guilty of the same thing your blaming men of But the issue is because you don't see the implications of the word you don't see a problem just like most men don't go "ah ill call her girl to make her seem like a child" its just the word they use out of custom so they don't see a problem either. " Lad, to me, is an adult male. I wouldn't call a child a lad. "Laddish" behaviour is adult behaviour, not the behaviour of children. Behaving like a lady means something else entirely, and some see it as part of the oppression of women, (i.e. restricted in what they can do, expected to behave like a lady). | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. I could point out that he in the actual post says guys and girls that it's likely he dint even notice he'd changed the wording for men ad they're more interchangeable. This has been noted, and the title has been pointed out. He also said guys (implication adult) and girls. Not boys and girls, which are the equivalents of each other. only if you assume girls is implication of non adult which is unlikely. " Girls means non-adult though, so it's a ridiculous term to use when referring to adult women. As said previously, when there is balance, such as girls and boys or men and women, it's not a problem. Men and girls is just wrong. It does jar. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. I could point out that he in the actual post says guys and girls that it's likely he dint even notice he'd changed the wording for men ad they're more interchangeable. This has been noted, and the title has been pointed out. He also said guys (implication adult) and girls. Not boys and girls, which are the equivalents of each other. only if you assume girls is implication of non adult which is unlikely. " Why is that unlikely when it's the actual meaning of the word? | |||
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" Oh please You're doing people actually being subjected to censorship a bit of a disservice here. If someone likes to be referred to as a girl then of course I'm not going to object to that. But lots of women don't, for very good reason - which seems as good a reason as any not to use it when you're referring to women and you don't know if it's what they like. " Come on, you're usually a better debater than this. Of course telling people that they can't use a word is censorship. What do you think it means? Yes lots of women don't like it, but even more are indifferent or in fact actually do like it. You are trying to push your _iews onto everyone. When actually it is enough to say I don't like it, so please refrain from using the term to describe me. How about the word 'bossy'? Did you jump on that whole bandwagon? | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. I could point out that he in the actual post says guys and girls that it's likely he dint even notice he'd changed the wording for men ad they're more interchangeable. This has been noted, and the title has been pointed out. He also said guys (implication adult) and girls. Not boys and girls, which are the equivalents of each other. only if you assume girls is implication of non adult which is unlikely. Why is that unlikely when it's the actual meaning of the word? " You believe it's likely the op deliberately sat down and went "hmm I'm going to use the word girl as I want to imply women are not adults"? | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I'm fine with lady. Or like someone has already said if it's girls AND boys, or lasses AND lads then it's not so bad because there's parity. But men and girls just jars. I could point out that he in the actual post says guys and girls that it's likely he dint even notice he'd changed the wording for men ad they're more interchangeable. This has been noted, and the title has been pointed out. He also said guys (implication adult) and girls. Not boys and girls, which are the equivalents of each other. only if you assume girls is implication of non adult which is unlikely. Girls means non-adult though, so it's a ridiculous term to use when referring to adult women. " Lad is a use for a young male too yet it's used to refer to adults? | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. What's interesting is that you dislike lady ad you belive it I plies specific behaviour yet then happily use lad and bloke as not having any behavioural or age implication. But lad would typically imply he's not yet a man. And bloke implies a certain manly behaviour. (Lad also implies behaviour these days see laddish etc) So your guilty of the same thing your blaming men of But the issue is because you don't see the implications of the word you don't see a problem just like most men don't go "ah ill call her girl to make her seem like a child" its just the word they use out of custom so they don't see a problem either. Lad, to me, is an adult male. I wouldn't call a child a lad. "Laddish" behaviour is adult behaviour, not the behaviour of children. Behaving like a lady means something else entirely, and some see it as part of the oppression of women, (i.e. restricted in what they can do, expected to behave like a lady)." Funny because lad is the term for a young male or boy. That's it's actual meaning. Outside of manual work it's generally referring to school boys. So you csn see how you have never seen an issue with it but in reality you've been guilty of the same thing your accusing men of. | |||
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" Oh please You're doing people actually being subjected to censorship a bit of a disservice here. If someone likes to be referred to as a girl then of course I'm not going to object to that. But lots of women don't, for very good reason - which seems as good a reason as any not to use it when you're referring to women and you don't know if it's what they like. Come on, you're usually a better debater than this. Of course telling people that they can't use a word is censorship. What do you think it means? Yes lots of women don't like it, but even more are indifferent or in fact actually do like it. You are trying to push your _iews onto everyone. When actually it is enough to say I don't like it, so please refrain from using the term to describe me. How about the word 'bossy'? Did you jump on that whole bandwagon? " If you read through the thread, you will find nowhere have I told anyone not to use the word. I've said I don't like it. Many other women have agreed. You accused another man of having an agenda because he asked why the word had been used. None of this is censorship. I don't know how many other women like being referred to as girls (and neither do you). All I can go by is my own reaction which, lo and behold, has been mirrored by a number of others on the thread. And some have said they like it. Fine, good for them. People can refer to women as girls all they like, but I'll feel well within my rights to draw my own conclusions about their attitudes towards women as a result or to question their use of it. I don't want to rehash an argument that's already been had. I know you think sexism no longer exists and that's informing your _iew of this. I know it still does and that's informing mine. | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. What's interesting is that you dislike lady ad you belive it I plies specific behaviour yet then happily use lad and bloke as not having any behavioural or age implication. But lad would typically imply he's not yet a man. And bloke implies a certain manly behaviour. (Lad also implies behaviour these days see laddish etc) So your guilty of the same thing your blaming men of But the issue is because you don't see the implications of the word you don't see a problem just like most men don't go "ah ill call her girl to make her seem like a child" its just the word they use out of custom so they don't see a problem either. Lad, to me, is an adult male. I wouldn't call a child a lad. "Laddish" behaviour is adult behaviour, not the behaviour of children. Behaving like a lady means something else entirely, and some see it as part of the oppression of women, (i.e. restricted in what they can do, expected to behave like a lady). Funny because lad is the term for a young male or boy. That's it's actual meaning. Outside of manual work it's generally referring to school boys. So you csn see how you have never seen an issue with it but in reality you've been guilty of the same thing your accusing men of." Not really, because she hasn't been referring to women and lads. That's the point, it's the lack of parity that makes it stand out. If the title had been boys and girls I dare say none of this discussion would even be going on. | |||
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"I think people should carry on using the word girl to describe women if they want too and I'll carry on using its use as a filter. " You said it far more succinctly than me | |||
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"I think people should carry on using the word girl to describe women if they want too and I'll carry on using its use as a filter. You said it far more succinctly than me " slice of cake miss? | |||
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"I think people should carry on using the word girl to describe women if they want too and I'll carry on using its use as a filter. You said it far more succinctly than me slice of cake miss? " Yeah I 'missed' your face when I threw it at you | |||
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" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. That's your personal preference though. As such i wouldn't refer to you as girl. However lots of women actually like it as it makes them feel more youthful. Censorship of others language based on personal preference is always wrong. " yeah, because women are sooooo unnatractive when they get older, that they need to be referred to as children to feel valued. You have multiple women telling you how much they don't appreciate being called girls, but you seem to be insisting yhat you know better than us... like, just maybe you're wrong and just need to accept it? | |||
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"Tbh on why women got called girls rather than women is probably cause it's easier to type and it sounds better women sounds incredibly formal even compared to men. When someone's referred to as a woman it always read a in a similar tone to when a man is called a "male" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. How about lady or anything other than woman? Cause like I said woman seems too formal. I prefer woman, personally. Lady has other potential connotations relating to behaviour, (being ladylike). If someone refers to men, (as in the title), how can pairing women with it be too formal? I see what you mean though, there isn't a casual term I can think of for women that implies adult yet doesn't have derogatory tones. Men can be blokes, guys, chaps etc. Women are ladies, girls, birds, chicks and a lot of other much worse names. What's interesting is that you dislike lady ad you belive it I plies specific behaviour yet then happily use lad and bloke as not having any behavioural or age implication. But lad would typically imply he's not yet a man. And bloke implies a certain manly behaviour. (Lad also implies behaviour these days see laddish etc) So your guilty of the same thing your blaming men of But the issue is because you don't see the implications of the word you don't see a problem just like most men don't go "ah ill call her girl to make her seem like a child" its just the word they use out of custom so they don't see a problem either. Lad, to me, is an adult male. I wouldn't call a child a lad. "Laddish" behaviour is adult behaviour, not the behaviour of children. Behaving like a lady means something else entirely, and some see it as part of the oppression of women, (i.e. restricted in what they can do, expected to behave like a lady). Funny because lad is the term for a young male or boy. That's it's actual meaning. Outside of manual work it's generally referring to school boys. So you csn see how you have never seen an issue with it but in reality you've been guilty of the same thing your accusing men of." So laddish behaviour means schoolwork and playing conkers then? Er no. "Lads" go on 18-30 holidays, drink irresponsibly and try to get laid a lot. There is no equivalent for the word girls. Besides, no, I don't consider lad means child but I also don't usually use the word myself. When referring to men in my posts I usually use guys or blokes. | |||
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"How the hell did the thread get to the arguing about the term girls ? Ffs....... " No idea! Hence why I have stayed away since | |||
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" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. That's your personal preference though. As such i wouldn't refer to you as girl. However lots of women actually like it as it makes them feel more youthful. Censorship of others language based on personal preference is always wrong. yeah, because women are sooooo unnatractive when they get older, that they need to be referred to as children to feel valued. You have multiple women telling you how much they don't appreciate being called girls, but you seem to be insisting yhat you know better than us... like, just maybe you're wrong and just need to accept it?" What about tricks n hoes? They seem legit terms to me | |||
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"Is it just me but is there actually a group of people on this thread not only stating it's fine to refer to people with a term they've said they prefer not to be called, but also saying those people are wrong not to like being referred to that way? Really?! "I'll refer to you how I want and you're wrong for not liking it" Can we say "behaving like an arsehole"?" No but it is one of those things that doesn't really bother me, so don't feel the need to get my knickers in a twist about terminology used by others. I've moved about the country, and I don't mind people using local terms of endearment to me, like 'flowerpot' from Yorkshire, 'Hun' from Scotland and many many others, unless of course it is being used deliberately to piss me off or to make a jibe, there are many others things to bother me than that, but that is of course just my opinion. | |||
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" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. That's your personal preference though. As such i wouldn't refer to you as girl. However lots of women actually like it as it makes them feel more youthful. Censorship of others language based on personal preference is always wrong. yeah, because women are sooooo unnatractive when they get older, that they need to be referred to as children to feel valued. You have multiple women telling you how much they don't appreciate being called girls, but you seem to be insisting yhat you know better than us... like, just maybe you're wrong and just need to accept it? What about tricks n hoes? They seem legit terms to me" So long as it's tricks and hoes not men and hoes | |||
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"Is it just me but is there actually a group of people on this thread not only stating it's fine to refer to people with a term they've said they prefer not to be called, but also saying those people are wrong not to like being referred to that way? Really?! "I'll refer to you how I want and you're wrong for not liking it" Can we say "behaving like an arsehole"? No but it is one of those things that doesn't really bother me, so don't feel the need to get my knickers in a twist about terminology used by others. I've moved about the country, and I don't mind people using local terms of endearment to me, like 'flowerpot' from Yorkshire, 'Hun' from Scotland and many many others, unless of course it is being used deliberately to piss me off or to make a jibe, there are many others things to bother me than that, but that is of course just my opinion. " I see this entirely differently to local terms of endearment. | |||
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" I've been derided before for saying I don't like to be referred to as a girl rather than a woman. I no longer expect men to understand why. That's your personal preference though. As such i wouldn't refer to you as girl. However lots of women actually like it as it makes them feel more youthful. Censorship of others language based on personal preference is always wrong. yeah, because women are sooooo unnatractive when they get older, that they need to be referred to as children to feel valued. You have multiple women telling you how much they don't appreciate being called girls, but you seem to be insisting yhat you know better than us... like, just maybe you're wrong and just need to accept it? What about tricks n hoes? They seem legit terms to me So long as it's tricks and hoes not men and hoes " I know how to tow the PC line...just ask Cath..i am politeness personified | |||
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"Is it just me but is there actually a group of people on this thread not only stating it's fine to refer to people with a term they've said they prefer not to be called, but also saying those people are wrong not to like being referred to that way? Really?! "I'll refer to you how I want and you're wrong for not liking it" Can we say "behaving like an arsehole"? No but it is one of those things that doesn't really bother me, so don't feel the need to get my knickers in a twist about terminology used by others. I've moved about the country, and I don't mind people using local terms of endearment to me, like 'flowerpot' from Yorkshire, 'Hun' from Scotland and many many others, unless of course it is being used deliberately to piss me off or to make a jibe, there are many others things to bother me than that, but that is of course just my opinion. I see this entirely differently to local terms of endearment. " If was just an example that many on here forever say they hate, I just don't see totally derailing an entire thread based on a sentence someone used when it wasn't really used to piss all the females off. That is all. | |||
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" If was just an example that many on here forever say they hate, I just don't see totally derailing an entire thread based on a sentence someone used when it wasn't really used to piss all the females off. That is all." You say derailing, I say debating, let's call the whole thing off | |||
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" If was just an example that many on here forever say they hate, I just don't see totally derailing an entire thread based on a sentence someone used when it wasn't really used to piss all the females off. That is all. You say derailing, I say debating, let's call the whole thing off " Fair doo's | |||
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" If you read through the thread, you will find nowhere have I told anyone not to use the word. I've said I don't like it. Many other women have agreed. You accused another man of having an agenda because he asked why the word had been used. None of this is censorship. " Your a clever woman, you know the difference between implicit and explicit. The other bloke wasn't censoring. Just trying to score browny point with you lot. Even though actually you don't appreciate it. (Maybe I was just being overly cynical and that wasn't actually his agenda, in which case I apologise to said bloke) " I don't know how many other women like being referred to as girls (and neither do you). All I can go by is my own reaction which, lo and behold, has been mirrored by a number of others on the thread. And some have said they like it. Fine, good for them. " You don't know how many don't either. " People can refer to women as girls all they like, but I'll feel well within my rights to draw my own conclusions about their attitudes towards women as a result or to question their use of it. I don't want to rehash an argument that's already been had. I know you think sexism no longer exists and that's informing your _iew of this. I know it still does and that's informing mine. " You don't know though. You think. Your experience of the world has lead you to think that. Doesn't make it fact though. We have different _iews, yet you give mine no credence. I'm pointing out that your ideology isn't necessarily factual. I don't think sexism doesn't exist. I don't think it exists to the same extent you do though. | |||
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